Re: Dave Cross and Bill Joy - separated at birth?

2003-09-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 10:04:04AM +0100, Simon Wistow said: >> Joy > > Thompson! I meant *Thompson*. Joy is quite scary, but definitely not related: http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/ceo/pics/img-joy.jpg http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/media/ceo/pic

Re: Class:DBI problems...

2003-09-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Graham Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> This sounds extremely like you've imported a load of CGI.pm routines >> into that classes namespace... > > You're right, but I don't understand how: another v

Re: Class:DBI problems...

2003-09-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 06:15:19PM +0100, Graham Seaman wrote: >> Failure while doing 'SELECT issue_id, title, number, current >> FROM Site::Issue >> WHERE current = ? >> ' with 'SearchSQL in Site::Issue' >> DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an er

Re: Exim and HELO

2003-09-08 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 8 Sep 2003, Sam Vilain wrote: > >> On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 10:58, Lusercop wrote; >> >> > how can it now be unsupported?". Just upgrade. It will make your >> > life *so* much easier. (there are actually .debs of exim4 around >> > if you want it

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a tangentially related note, I'm very rapidly starting to come to the > opinion that there are far too many applications that are written in > C/C++ which don't need to. I heartily agree. I think that the combination of a scripting language plus som

Re: Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Rafael Garcia-Suarez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In bleadperl : > $ perl -lne 'print if /\bgoto\b/' *.[ch] | wc -l > 605 > > This is a rough metric, there are probably less actual gotos than this > (because of comments and because "goto" is a perl keyword -- not > forgetting the yacc-generate

Bad C Source (Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:16:40AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> For the benefit of people likely to come up against Yet Another >> Compression Format, though: >> >> http://files10.rarlab.com/rar/unrarsrc-3.2.3.t

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Unix, RAR and ACE are only available as binaries, which puts off a > lot of people; and neither those nor ZIP preserves file ownership or > permission information. So while I'm able to extract most files under > Unix, I wouldn't choose those formats

Re: Fave calendering software?

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:00:20AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> The nightlies of FireBird have a stylesheet switcher icon in the bottom >> left. No extensions needed. I presume that this will find its way >> into the next

Re: Programming Email Filters

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Mark Overmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 9/2/03 8:36:11 AM > >> You can be in the Bcc of the sender, so valid mail does >> not require to have contain your address. > > Yeah, but in cases like that one of my email addresses will still > be in the

Re: DOS/WIN archivers of the mid 1990s (was Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial)

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my experience, people who really care about compressed file size and > are moderately technically savvy tend to use RAR or ACE; people who > want their files to be readable by everybody use ZIP; people who are > catering for virus-prone fools use

Re: gzipping your websites

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1 Sep 2003 at 21:58, Tim Sweetman wrote: > >> Does all this negotiation run into hot water with legacy p(r)oxy caches? > > I believe someone mentioned that they couldn't get their cache to cache > the contents if they sent the proper HTTP header ("Va

Re: gzipping your websites WINRAR 40 days trial

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to be annoyed when someone zipped and the rared. Winzip cannot even > handle this yet. Nowadays I can just say that RAR is more universial the > Zip. That seem unlikely at best. I'd never even heard of winrar until somebody at work pointed it

Re: Fave calendering software?

2003-09-02 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Which is one of my big fears with Firebird becoming "Browser" (that > is, the only mozilla browser). the guys running it are still wedded > to the idea of pushing everything into extensions. Last I saw they > still weren't going to add a menu item to switc

Re: gzipping your websites

2003-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nigel Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I tried using Apache MultiViews to served pre-compressed static content, > but to no avail. The idea was Apache would map a request for index.html to > index.html.gz and serve the precompressed file instead. In the same way > that language encoded file

Re: gzipping your websites

2003-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, this only really works well for static content. Static Content is a Good Thing[tm]. You should try to have as much of it as possible. The you can let Apache do the hard work of implementing HTTP correctly (caching, byte ranges, etc). -Dom -

Re: mod_gzip and mod_perl

2003-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Alex McLintock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A slightly different question to the one Simon just asked but does anyone > use mod_gzip with mod_perl? I found that they interfered with each other so > in the end I disabled mod_gzip on mod_perl generated pages. > > I haven't looked at this in about

Re: gzipping your websites

2003-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Robin Berjon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simon Wistow wrote: >> Apache or Squid as reverse proxy with mod_gzip >> -- >> http://www.apache.org >> http://www.squid-cache.org/ >> Pros: (F|f)ree! >> Cons: More developer time needed? > > In my experience th

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-09-01 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: >> *> >> *>You only have to be able to produce your driving license when asked, and >> *>you have up to 7 days to do so. You don't have to be carrying it. >> >> Well,

Re: Margarine (was Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises)

2003-08-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 29 Aug 2003 at 10:56, Paul Makepeace wrote: > >> margarine - why do people even consider eating this shit? Ignorance? >> Don't care about themselves? Laziness? Habit? > > My theory: no taste buds. > > Margarine icky, butter much better. Ah, but onl

Re: London.pm identity cards

2003-08-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Michel Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can even offer to provides those for cheap, say 39.95 pounds (where is > the pound sign when you need it?). £ What, no HTML email? ;-) -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Michael Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:38:23PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: >> 2. The governments ability to deliver large scale IT projects is almost >> zero. Time after time major projects have failed and this will be the >> largest IT project undertaken by centra

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-29 Thread Dominic Mitchell
the hatter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unusually, for someone without a full license, I have a photocard, and I > carry it most times, as a photo ID. It'll be interesting to see if I can > use it as ID in the US, instead of my passport, though I won't be near > much civilisation, so probably won'

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I seem to remember Sweden and Denmark having national IDs. > > So, if it wasn't compulsory, the national ID would be ok? Nobody has yet brought up the idea of a national ego card. I think this would be a far preferrable alternative. -Dom -- |

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And as far as I'm aware of, Germans don't mind having their national ID > card ("Personalausweis" / "Perso"). > > On the other hand, I'm not sure quite how compulsive it is; I've heard > conflicting information on, say, whether you are required by law t

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are plenty of similar laws in the US, such as the law in St. Louis > where if you are found with less than $10 on your person, you can be fined > and/or jailed for vagrancy. You don't carry any ID on you at times? What > happens if you get hit

Re: insidious biometrics, identity crises

2003-08-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Steve Mynott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The key point isn't technological or economic but political, whether you > should be legally forced to carry an state issued identity card when you > walk down the street to your local shops (as I believe is common in > continental Europe). > > "Sorry m

Re: request for supercited mails

2003-08-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Lusercop <`the.lusercop'@lusercop.net> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:57:20AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: >> I especially want multiply cited sources and preferably multiply nested >> super cites if such a thing exists. > > OK, I shouldn't do this, but...: > > No such thing exists because su

Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue

2003-08-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IME the parsing of a non-trivial binary format is a much nastier task than > parsing text, especially structured text like XML. > > Vendors are generally pretty shit at providing even a decent interoperable > *text*-based protocol (viz variously and gloriously br

Re: XML::Schema (Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue)

2003-08-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One of these days I'll get around to writing the generic schema > representation tool that I've been thinking about since then. > Something that works independantly of any particular data representation > method like XML. If you confine yourself to XML,

Re: stop this slrn nonsense

2003-08-27 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's screwing up the threading! I'm sorry about that. It's just a lot easier to gate the list to a newsgroup... I can see what's going wrong though. It looks like my m2n gateway is changing all the messageid's to include the name of the newsgroup. Urgh.

Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue

2003-08-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Andy Wardley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Fowler wrote: >> http://www.w3.org/2001/vxml"; >> xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"; >> xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.w3.org/2001/vxml >> http://www.w3.org/TR/voicexml20/vxml.xsd"; version="2.0" >> > > > Hands up who thinks XML

Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue

2003-08-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nigel Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here! here! > > Just take the XML::Simple documentation, it starts off courageously simple > but before you know it you're way past the synopsis and in a world of > hurt. > > The escaping, unescaped, escape characters has been a nightmare, every > XML

Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue

2003-08-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Andy Wardley wrote: > >> Robin Berjon wrote: >> > Hands up who thinks XML Schema sucks? >> >> Now both my hands are up in the air. I'm typing this with my dick. > > Hang on, I seem to remember you giving this big talk about how you we

Re: XML & XML::LibXML declarations issue

2003-08-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Mark Fowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Robin Berjon wrote: > >> When you call findnodes, you are not providing the necessary namespace >> context, which is why it works when you remove the namespace but not >> when it's there. > > Allow me to rephrase to help make this pain

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:51:49PM +0100, Colin Magee wrote: > >>So this SQLite seems like a great idea IF it makes setting up and >>administering a dbase simple. Unfortunately I just looked up where I can >>download it, but didn't see any example co

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Tony Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 03:30:48PM +0100, Andy Ford wrote: >> Well thanks for summing that up - it was an interesting read!! >> Currently I use mySQL only and don't really need transactional stuff. >> Now triggers I can see a need for!! > > Triggers at the

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about Firebird? > > http://firebird.sourceforge.net/ > > does anyone here have personal experience? On paper (well, online) it > compares favorably to PostgreSQL, and it can be easily embedded. It's an excellent browser, much quicker than mozi

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 15:08, Randal L. Schwartz wrote; > > RL> At a speed cost that makes it slower than Pg, and an earlier > RL> spot on the design curve which Pg has already matured on. > > I think I'd rather spend the money I save on Pg DBA's on more d

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Randal L. Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MySQL is *just* now getting transactions. PostgreSQL has had some > very good experts working on transactions for years now, and they're > much further along on the trial-and-error curve that MySQL is just now > starting. I'd just like to point out

Re: [OT] SQL woes

2003-08-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Toby Corkindale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 06:03:13PM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 17, 2003 at 09:51:13AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >> > (And people who use MySQL wonder what the value of subselects are! :) >> >> Subselects are in MySQL 4.1 (currentl

Re: Exporting Symbols

2003-08-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 19:49:42 -0400, Dan Sugalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He's incorrect. Symbols only take up space when they're imported, not > when they're made available for export. If the name being imported > doesn't exist in the importer's namespace in any form (which is to > say, if

Re: Exporting Symbols

2003-08-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 12:43:10 +0100, Nigel Rantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:34:39 +0100, Nigel Rantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This is an excellent oppurtunity for you to release a CPAN module of >>

Re: Exporting Symbols

2003-08-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 11:34:39 +0100, Nigel Rantor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >> Nigel Rantor wrote: >> >>>The reasoning is not so that the namespace doesn't get polluted. His >>>argument is regarding space efficiency. >> >> >> That might matter in an Apache::Registr

Re: OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Lusercop <`the.lusercop'@lusercop.net> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 01:11:21PM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:21:34 -0400, Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > They swear they're upgrading RSN, when BSD (Free? Open? Whic

Re: OT: Can't declare subtraction

2003-08-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:21:34 -0400, Mike Jarvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They swear they're upgrading RSN, when BSD (Free? Open? Whichever.) > does. They only run stable from their distro, and it's hard to fault > an ISP for that. That's a pretty lame excuse. It's very easy to disable the

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I thought that perl papered over this idiosyncracy for you, but try > resetting the signal handler and see if it works: Hmmm, according to perlvar(1), signal handlers are only installed using sigaction if it's present. So there you g

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 17:58:00 +0100 (BST), Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> I know older versions of Unix used to require you to reinstall your >> signal handler when it was called. Modern versions don't because this &

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-10 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On 05 Aug 2003 14:34:15 +0100, Andy Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am testing out signal (I nearly wrote single - and I'm married) > trapping so I can use it in a number of scrits all ready in service. > > The basic concept seems relatively straight forward, however my SIGHUP > only seems to

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On 05 Aug 2003 16:40:23 +0100, Andy Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > d_sigaction='define'; Ok, in that case, I can only conclude that I have no idea why that's going on. Sorry! -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/

Re: interrupt only working once

2003-08-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On 05 Aug 2003 16:21:42 +0100, Andy Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Solaris 2.8 How odd - that definitely supports sigaction. Maybe perl's configure hasn't picked it up? What does "perl -V:d_sigaction" say? -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http

Re: text'd or texted

2003-08-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 04:02:23 -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Welcome to English where any noun can be verbed :) Also popular is 'to > SMS' or 'to be SMS-ed'. Surely that's just a smidgeon to close to S&M'd? -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 13:50:25 +0100, Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:59, Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote: >> > we are talking about the times where interactivity is a must. >> > i'd be interested to know how you'd make cpanplus' install >> > non-interactive for example. >> Any

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:37:23 +0100, Sam Vilain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, packaging up people's code when they've made 1,000,001 > assumptions really sucks. I had to package up a lot of software for > the NZ IR in SysV format. Our policy was that absolutely everything > on the system is on

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:49:10 +0200, Jos I. Boumans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 12:14 Europe/Amsterdam, Dominic Mitchell > wrote: >>> the accepted procedure[1] nowadays is to do something roughly like the >>> following: >>

Re: interactive tests

2003-07-30 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:57:09 +0200, Jos I. Boumans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 06:50 Europe/Amsterdam, Struan Donald > wrote: > >> If you don't want to read about Perl look away now. > well, technically i think you're supposed to mark it [OT] on the > london.pm

Re: Verbose output idiom

2003-07-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:59:31 +0100 (BST), Shevek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Matthew Lawrence wrote: > >> Shevek wrote: >> >> >On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Clayton, Nik [IT] wrote: >> > >> >{ # It's a scope! >> >my @warnbuffer; >> >$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { frob @warn

Re: fork()ing in perl

2003-07-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 14:28:20 +0100, Chisel Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got a colleague here in the orifice, and between us we know how to > use fork() but don't understand it as well as we'd like. > > There's a parent process that does a nice chunky select from a database, > does othe

Re: Messing with mail-owned files from Apache

2003-07-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:59:11 +0100, Nick Cleaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 11:18:46AM +0100, Lusercop wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:47:39AM +, Dominic Mitchell wrote: >> > If the executable is +s, LD_PRELOAD et al will be ignored. >&

Re: Inline::Fortran

2003-07-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:22:23 +0100, Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:50:49AM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote: >> >> Why isn't there one? > > I suspect that no-one has needed it sufficiently to have a go at writing > it. Or more succintly: "because you haven't

Re: Inline::Fortran

2003-07-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 10:50:35 +0100 (BST), Dirk Koopman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 09:50:49AM +0100, David Hodgkinson wrote: >>> Why isn't there one? >> >> You can write Fortran in any language. (Just see the Numerical Recipes >> books' code examples if you don't believ

Re: Messing with mail-owned files from Apache

2003-07-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:20:48 +0100, Nick Cleaton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 04:35:52PM +0100, Andy Wardley wrote: >> Nick Cleaton wrote: >> > That passes the environment unaltered to SCRIPT. In combination with >> > the fact that you're setting the real uid/gid as well as

Re: ExtUtils::MakeMaker grief -- installing a generated file

2003-07-16 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:34:40 +0100, Clayton, Nik [IT] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Afternoon all, > > The customary apologies for polluting the list with Perl content. > > Any ExtUtils::MakeMaker gurus in the house[1]? > > At build time, my module has to sniff around its environment and generate

Re: Treating strings like file handles?

2003-07-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 21:16:01 +0100, Chris Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 08:57:20PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> >> Because you were blinded by the orange? >> >> http://search.cpan.org/orange.html > > Behold, interweb sunglasses: > > ExtFilterDefine orangenomo

Re: Database Connection Conversions

2003-07-15 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:40:15 -0400, darren chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * Darren Chamberlain [2003-07-15 11:34]: >> * Dave Cross [2003-07-15 08:37]: >> > So what we're looking for is an application that can sit between the >> > VB a

Re: Treating strings like file handles?

2003-07-11 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Richard Clamp wrote: > On Fri, Jul 11, 2003 at 12:19:52PM +0100, Ali Young wrote: >> This came up when I was playing with a module that expected to read some >> text from a file when I was actually trying to make it use the text in a >> string. This seemed simple but I've not yet found a way to d

Re: Using LWP for protected pages

2003-07-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
In article , Roger Burton West wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 11:18:27PM +0100, Colin Magee wrote: > >>Now I notice that lynx has a "-auth:ID:PWD" argument in its standard >>documentation for sites where authorisation is required. > > That'll probably only work for "real" authorisation, which i

Re: Contracts for contractors

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Nigel Hamilton wrote: Does £1000 == a 'Gorilla'? No, but £2000 is an "Archer". :-) -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ | | Tel: +44 (1273) 72 | | Address: 33 Bond St., Br

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Cross wrote: Here's a brief guide to our measures of length. 1 foot is 12 inches 1 yard is 3 feet 1 mile is 1760 yards There are others like a fathom (6 feet - but used to measure depths not lengths or heights), a chain (22 yards - the length of a cricket pitch I think) and a furlong (220 yar

Re: UK Money, again

2003-06-26 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Dave Cross wrote: A pony is 25 quid and a monkey is 500 quid. But as I said before, you might want to avoid using them as these terms carry a slight inference that the money is being used for criminal purposes (for example a bribe). Oh, I see. So what is the '

Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-24 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dominic Mitchell wrote: Pure Perl XSLT was unsupported and incomplete last I heard. Oi! Less of the unsupported matey. All patches welcome. My sincere apologies! My opinion was based on what is obviously unsubstantiated rumour. You might also wish to

Re: XSLT processor recommendations

2003-06-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Toby Corkindale wrote: Hiya, Given XALAN java, XALAN C++, GNOME libXSLT, and Pure Perl XSLT, which would you choose to work with from Perl, and why? Most people seem to go for XML::LibXSLT. It's pretty quick, supported and does the job. It has the useful xsltproc command line tool. And you do

Re: DBD::Pg - insert_id

2003-06-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Toby Corkindale wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:53:47AM +0100, Chisel Wright wrote: One piece of functionality I can't find in the postgres database interface is the equivalent of: $sth->{'mysql_insertid'} It would just be really nice to be able to do something like: $sql = q[INSERT INTO foo

Re: pub recommendation near Northampton sq

2003-06-23 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Cross wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:25:33AM +, Martin Bower ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: anyone know any decent pubs within walking distance of City University ? http://www.ukuug.org/events/TimOReilly/ There's the Pheasant & Firkin on Goswell Road just south of the University. On ref

Re: DBD::Pg - insert_id

2003-06-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Chisel Wright wrote: The only way I can think of doing this is to use something along these lines: ... $oid = $sth->{'pg_oid_status'} ($tablename) = ($sql =~ m{^insert\s+into\s+(.+?)\s+\(/}i); $sth = $dbh->prepare("SELECT id FROM $tablename WHERE oid = $oid"); ... Which seems really groad

Re: Number Indicating Participation in London.pm (NIPL) (was: assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-18 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: /me hopes native english speakers don't mind about correcting my english errors. Don't worry about it; most english people can't spel anyway. :-) -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/

Re: Debugging Tied Hashes

2003-06-17 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Raf wrote: Thank you for making me confront my ego. I moved the breakpoint to TIEHASH and discovered that a method called by my constructor was not actually doing what it was supposed to. Thus the hash never got tied and STORE never got called. Considered and dismissed that early on, assuming th

Re: [JOB][HERESY] Python / wxPython GUI developer

2003-06-13 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Lusercop wrote: "... Hlp! Smbd stl ll th vwls frm m kbrd!" (my favourite) That'll just teach you to buy a keyboard which can't have the keycaps taken off. Although they can prise my IBM keyboard from cold, dead fingers. -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | |

Re: [scott@asofyet.org: xsubpp patch]

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: Any reason not to use the less intrusive (but untested) patch below ? Index: lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp === --- lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp (revision 1484) +++ lib/ExtUtils/xsubpp (working copy) @@ -1697,7 +1697,9 @@ sub

Re: Subpackaging to CPAN? (was Re: assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: *> *>They're documented as doing so, but last I checked the version numbers *>where ignored. This was last year, so the situation may well have changed. I've never had a problem with version numbers in

Re: Subpackaging to CPAN? (was Re: assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell wrote: They're documented as doing so, but last I checked the version numbers where ignored. This was last year, so the situation may well have changed. I've just checked; version numbers are ignored in CPAN.pm 1.70. Have a look at CPAN::Bundle::contains(). I gu

Re: Subpackaging to CPAN? (was Re: assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth: *> *>Hmmm, personally I'd find bundles a lot more useful if they understood *>version numbers. But I suspect that's just a pet hate of mine. They do. Have you read the documentation? :) They're document

Re: Module::Build and ExtUtils::MakeMaker woes:

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Mark Fowler wrote: Why is my Makefile trying to locate Module::Build? Have I just done something really stupid? Does anyone know what on earth is going on here? Because it's trying to run all scripts ending in .PL. You need to add this to Makefile.PL: PL_FILES => {}, (unless of course, you ac

Re: Subpackaging to CPAN? (was Re: assimilating CPAN)

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote: One often overlooked tool is the Bundle. I've been waiting for years for it to really catch on as a way for developers to work independently together on things that are useful together. It's not a perfect solution but it's one that could work if authors gave it more consi

Re: Making perl modules for CPAN

2003-06-12 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dirk Koopman wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 10:40, Mark Fowler wrote: And this is different to normal how you might say? Ummm...I'll get back to you on that. Perl Perl Perl Perl. Perl? Is this the name of some kind of new game that you are inventing? Can you give us a flavour of the rules? It's ju

Re: Help! - Text::vCard, Mandrake & Unicode ?

2003-06-09 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Leo Lapworth wrote: 1..3 ok 1 - use Text::vCard; Unrecognized character \xA0 at test.pl line 14. # Looks like you planned 3 tests but only ran 1. The usual Unicode error from bad input is "Malformed UTF-8". This is something else. According to perldiag: Unrecognized character %s (F) The Perl

MS Office, Klingon Edition

2003-06-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Andrew Beattie wrote: Philip Newton wrote: Microsoft's Office suite currently ships in 18 languages MS-Office would be more fun in Klingon. Klippy would be fun: "You look like your're writing a letter. SCUM! A real Klingon could shout that and have it heard from 3 miles away!" -Dom -- |

Re: The Perl Color?

2003-06-06 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Lusercop wrote: On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 09:48:19AM +0100, Tim Sweetman wrote: Lusercop wrote: Lusercop identifies /J\ as using nvi. Lusercop's original post was with sun vi. M-x identify-self-in-third-person-mode What's this "M-x" rubbish? Just take this red pill, labelled "emacs.rpm". You'll so

Re: Local Boy Makes Good

2003-06-05 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dave Cross wrote: (Well, local-ish - he's from Birmingham really you konw) We all have our crosses to bear. ;-) Very silly, with noise: -Dom -- | Semantico: creators of major online resources | | URL: http://www.semantico.com/ |

Re: Reaping process...

2003-06-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Shevek wrote: Ignore the SIGCHLD. POSIX only guarantees signal delivery within 4 minutes. Just reap a few whenever you get to an appropriate point in your code. This intrigues me enough to take a look. Apparently, the POSIX docs are available online now:

Re: [OT] map weirdness

2003-05-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Paul Makepeace wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 10:42:55AM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: sub doit { I like this method too, esp if combined with ?: local $_ = $_; return if $something; return if $other_thing; return 1; } Just for clarify, return requires a EXPR, it doesn't r

Re: [OT] map weirdness

2003-05-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote: Hy list =-] Straight to the point: I have a map like this: @array = map { if( $something ){ # stop, return a scalar from this block. } if( $other_thing ){ # stop, return an array if we reach this point. } # return an

Unicode

2003-05-28 Thread Dominic Mitchell
David Cantrell wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:02 +0100 Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We can't possibly adopt the Euro in the UK until my vt220 displays it correctly! -Dom (a paid up member of the unicode-for-everything brigade) Bugger Unicode. The letter E works just

Re: The joys of web development

2003-03-31 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Peter Sergeant wrote: What about old browsers, that support JavaScript but not the noscript HTML element? *sighs* Which are they? The ones listed as "unsupported". -Dom

Re: Starting Again

2003-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Philip Newton wrote: On 19 Mar 2003 at 9:34, S Watkins wrote: Naaah, you keep them in "." Tricky to see and difficult to remove without "tricks". Also popular are directory names with embedded ^H's. $ ls foo $ cd foo ksh: foo: not found $ cd 'fa^V^Hoo' $ The trouble with all these approa

Re: Making running X listen on TCP

2003-03-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Dominic Mitchell wrote: Paul Makepeace wrote: I have a big X session I'd rather not lose, and Phoenix still doesn't have a Save Session feature :-/ But I'd like to test another headless machine's X clients. The only other option is to use ssh X tunneling. Which is far

Re: Capturing local machine's IP address in bash

2003-03-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Joel Bernstein wrote: /sbin/ifconfig|grep eth0 -2|grep inet|cut -f2 -d:|awk '{print $1}' would work, non? for eth0 anyway. that extends fairly trivially to something for each eth stanza... Obligatory cut-down-use-of-multiple-processes: ifconfig -a | awk '/inet addr:/{split($2,a,/:/);print a[2]}'

Re: Making running X listen on TCP

2003-03-19 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Paul Makepeace wrote: Is it possible to make X listen for network connections, without restarting it? Or maybe run another one that doesn't interfere graphically with the current one? (me <- no X-pert) No. It's controlled by a -nolisten tcp flag. You'd have to restart the server to change it. I

Obsolete software

2003-03-14 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Aaron Trevena wrote: University Chancellors and even heads of computing schools in universities are often very far removed from the industry and follow a mix of 30 year old technology that huge dinosaur corporations expect everybody to know but are obselete (like x.500, kermit, etc) or obselete-bef

Driving

2003-03-13 Thread Dominic Mitchell
Aaron Trevena wrote: Its like complaining that driving a nice audi is hard because you've only ever driving a go-kart around a car park !! Driving an audi is hard because it's a big ugly /car/ with 4 wheels. Try a two wheeled device. Much easier! -Dom

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