[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-04 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Are: Diana Poulton attributed the piece (with reservation) to Dowland based on the fact that it contains several of Dowland's typical devices; the ascending scale passages with a repeated first note, and several tonic/dominant repetitions with inversions. The piece also appears in the man

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Taco I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they communicate, it could be considered that indirectly they are trying to sell their wares. Also, t

[LUTE] So...where to find more tabs?

2007-11-04 Thread Omer katzir
i used to work with http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/ to find tabs for some songs (campion, dowland etc.) but they the site is not working for the past few days i need to download tab+lyrics to a new project. i really hate computers... To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: So...where to find more tabs?

2007-11-04 Thread David Rastall
On Nov 4, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Omer katzir wrote: > i used to work with http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/ to find > tabs for some songs (campion, dowland etc.) > but they the site is not working for the past few days i need to > download tab+lyrics to a new project. > > i really hate computer

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
> "I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want >to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a >difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they >communicate, it could be considered that indirectly they are trying >to sell their wares." Cou

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Alan Hoyle
For what it's worth... Perhaps the difference is that we lutenists daren't take our eyes off the tablature, and so we have to find our way about the neck of our instrument by touch, not sight. Having said that, I think I might just stick something close tothe 7th fret... Alan - Original

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Sean Smith
We luters have it pretty easy worrying only now and then about our h's and k's. Pity the polite citternist who must mind their p's and q's. Sean On Nov 4, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Alan Hoyle wrote: For what it's worth... Perhaps the difference is that we lutenists daren't take our eyes off the

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
Uh-oh boys 'n girls- we're mixing our threads here. I've never felt strongly about the marker marks except that they've always bothered me aesthetically- but on rare occasions helped me out when playing strictly from memory; which (classical) guitarists have always done far more than any of us

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Narada
A tiny dot on the 3rd, 5th and 7th for me, only because as a geeetarist I like the reference it gives me, so I've carried it over to the lute. I'd also like the lists opinion on fixed metal frets, I had a rather heated discussion with a classical guitarist recently who was very critical of what he

[LUTE] So...where to find more tabs?

2007-11-04 Thread Stewart McCoy
- Original Message - From: "Omer katzir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: [LUTE] So...where to find more tabs? i used to work with http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/ to find tabs for some songs (campion, dowland etc.) but they the site i

[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-04 Thread Arthur Ness
I am unaware of any unascribed works that have been assigned to Francesco, except for that ricercar by "Incerto" in the Chilesotti Codice Lauten-Buch (and several other places, incl. Bottegari--do you attribute it to Francesco in your Bottegari edition?). Could you provide us with some examples o

[LUTE] )Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-04 Thread Arthur Ness
They've been cracking down laterly. And I think we can expect more as the industry flexes its muscles. One woman from Duluth was fined $220,000 for copyright infringement, just a few days ago (she could have been fined three million dollars, according to news reports). http://www.breitbart.com/

[LUTE] Re: dissertations on lute topics

2007-11-04 Thread Arthur Ness
Hello, Nancy! Ralf properly sent you to Doctoral Dissertations in Musicology at Indiana University. It is an attempt to make a comprehsnive listing of completed dissertations, and those in progress. The coverage is international, and I have tried to assist my former student, Tom Mathiesen the adm

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Anthony Hind
I hope you may be right for the loaded strings. Perhaps they are on their way, and you read the signs better than I do. Undoubtedly, Mimmo will be demonstrating something this month at the Greenwich early music festival. I suppose you may see his lute strung with loaded strings, perhaps

[LUTE] Re: fret stringing, was: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Edward Martin
Good point, Mathias. However, gut frets sound better. ed At 09:36 PM 11/4/2007 +, Mathias Rösel wrote: Paul O'Dette said in that YouTube video, the reason for movable gut frets was that they can be shifted, in case mean tone temperament is required. If that proves to be the only reason, I

[LUTE] Re: )Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-04 Thread Edward Martin
Thanks for pointing this out, Art. As you know, I happen to live in Duluth (Minnesota, not Georgia), as does Dan Larson. As I am a lutenist who does happen to have recordings, it bothers me when my recordings are copied without consent. But, in this particular case, it was tried in federal co

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Edward Martin
Howdy, Dan! I do use markers, as I play many different sized instruments. I recall working with a lutenist about 8 years, ago, practicing duets. This particular lutenist plays many different kinds of lutes, and in one piece, he was not hitting the right note up on the 8th or 9th fret. I sugg

[LUTE] Re: fret stringing, was: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Shoskes
The other issue is tuning. Even with equal temperment, there will be times when the 1st course needs a slightly different fret position than the lower courses for all to be in tune. I believe it's related to the fingerboard curvature and to the different thicknesses of the strings. I often

[LUTE] Re: fret stringing, was: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Roman Turovsky
And besides- metal frets will quickly chew up your precious gut strings. Not very economical... RT - Original Message - From: "Daniel Shoskes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mathias Rösel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'Lute List'" Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 5:35 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
Top of the afternoon to you too, Ed- Not against markers, just don't like the appearance. On my 72 cm. 8 course, (that's a LONG highway for these old fingers) Barber put a very discreet little white dot at the seventh, on the neck near the neck/fingerboard junction, worked very well anytime I w

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread vance wood
You cannot argue with a Guitar player about fixed metal frets, especially if their only exposure to the Lute is at a distance. They have to have first hand experience with gut frets and the fineness of the sound before they start to grasp the significance of them. Don't even try discussing di

[LUTE] Re: Poulton #73 [was] dedillo

2007-11-04 Thread Ron Andrico
Dear Arthur: I'm glad to know that I got your attention. Yes, i was mainly describing the fantasia from Bottegari + Chilesotti's ms. This misattribution was by Chiesa, who seemed to feel strongly that it was Francesco's. I don't. There are several other pieces that it seems were deliber

[LUTE] Re: )Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-04 Thread Guy Smith
>From what I've read (on boingboing.net, among others), the record companies would have settled with her for much less. She refused, and insisted on going to court, so they went for the jugular and largely succeeded. I suspect that they were trying to make an example of her to discourage others fro

[LUTE] Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-04 Thread howard posner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Edward Martin wrote: > The young lady who was found guilty is a > single mother with 2 young children, and she earns $30,000 > annually. She > will never be in a position to pay off this hefty fine. If my > understanding is correct, she shared popular song downloads

[LUTE] New Archlute

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Well, I've finally joined the realm of the giraffe wranglers. Behold my new Archlute, courtesy of Andrew Rutherford: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3fyUoKSGVQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qY6IUx0phQ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute

[LUTE] Re: Lute iconographic project - a proposal]

2007-11-04 Thread Peter Martin
Sadly the excellent International Music Score Library Project, which was rapidly building up an online resource of many thousands of out-of-copyright (or so they thought) socres, has recently been nuked by the publishers. Read the sorry story at http://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page P On 02/11/2007,