Of course, most early guitars have pegs for a double first course: but
whether they were always strung accordingly is moot. Similarly, I
suspect, for a lute with sufficient pegs .
MH
--- On Sat, 19/11/11, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote:
From: Martin Shepherd
hi,
I have uploaded 2 short new lute duets for 2 equal lutes (Unisono)
-- Luzzasco Luzzaschi - Ricercar I -
-- Luzzasco Luzzaschi - Ricercar II -
Short but fine Ricercari
Have a look at the mp3 file. This will show you a first sight on this fine
music.
Enjoy it
Anton
--
To get on
last year I offered a anonym frottola called Chi scrisse l'armonia.
I did a new intavolation of this fine Lute duet. Now you can play both settings.
--- Anonym - Chi scrisse l'armonia II --- (there are both versions,-the old
first one and the new sec. one)
Suggestion.
Play the original
Dear Ed and All
Thanks Ed, I am relieved that Dan may be safely able to continue
gut making (and even to improve his production methods), I wish him
luck; but I am less optimistic for gut string making in Europe. We have
lost Sofracob, and now Aquila, and others seem to be
Hello Daniel
Our musical correspondences on these lists have not crossed paths
before (I am Baroque Guitar phobic- the stringing of 4th 5th courses
gives me cold chills. I prefer the simplicity of a 13 course Baroque
lute; and I tell no one that I string my 6th course in
Dear Lutenists,
Who can tell me the name of this tune played by prog rock Group Ars Nova
(1968):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eYJ8lJmP3sfeature=related
I seemed to recall that I had the tune on an album with European lute music
played by Konrad Ragossnig, but it has vanished in the mists of
I seem to remember that lutes with a double chanterelle were usually
strung in unisons.
Mimmo Peruffo disputes that assumption: from his website page The lute in its
historical reality-
9. Double treble and unison courses: the fact that the vihuela was generally
(but not always) strung
I've found the reference - Segerman and Abbott, FoMRHI Comm number 30,
July 1976
[1]http://www.fomrhi.org/uploads/bulletins/Fomrhi-004.pdf
They say (p37) Instruments which come to mind that had double first
courses and unison basses were
1. Vihuela
2. Robinson (1603) and
Thanks for the reference, Bill. There have been new discoveries
since the time the article was written, where we now cannot claim
that vihuelas were string in unison. Some were, others were
not. They may have had the double first course, but there is
evidence to the contrary that some
Greetings,
Goeran Crona has created a french tablature edition of the Intabolatura
de Lauto by Simon Gintzler in Fronimo files and PDF. I have posted this
(with his introduction, index, and a title page I created) on
[1]http://www.dolcesfogato.com/Music/ so that you may have access
Certainly, Ed. But how many vihuelas do we see nowadays in these
configurations? In fact I wonder if there's a single one that isn't
set up with unisons throughout and a double first? We're very
conservative (with a small 'c') when it comes to pushing the envelope.
I wonder if
Thanks, Bill.
I have my vihuelas set up in gut, with octaves on 4, 5, and 6. It
sounds charming, and yes, I do play Milan on it!
ed
At 12:53 PM 11/20/2011, William Samson wrote:
Certainly, Ed. But how many vihuelas do we see nowadays in these
configurations? In fact I wonder if
On Nov 20, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Monica Hall wrote:
. I prefer the simplicity of a 13 course Baroque
lute; and I tell no one that I string my 6th course in unisons- direct
violation of Canon Law.)
A good many players seem to be unaware of such a law. At an LSA some years
ago, when loaded
Bill
That's a good question and we should all get a chance to listen to the
experiment. I did and from my experience a unison-strung 6c is pretty
clunky to play. When you have two ropey gut 6th course basses side by
side you run into intonation (and buzzing) problems and it's pretty
Sean's point is interesting. Whether unison or octave tuning on the 6th course
(or above) might well depend on whether gut or synthetic strings are used.
I've never been comfortable with octave stringing above the 7th course of my 8
course instrument since I often play thumb-index on the 6th
That's great! Are these both octave strung instruments on your Duo
Chambure Youtubes? The sound is gorgeous!
Bill
From: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com
To: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2011,
Gut and modern metal-wound are truly different animals.
Try this thought experiment. As you know the modern string (this will
be an abbreviation for the modern metal wound around a synthetic
core, ok?) will ring considerably longer. Assuming the tensions are
equal, the gut string will
They certainly do sound lovely. I wonder if we'll ever know just how
the thickest gut basses were made back in the day. Certainly the roped
ones, while being flexible enough to play in tune all the way up the
fingerboard, do sound 'thuddy' to modern ears. Is that something that
Hi collective lute wisdom,
can somebody sum up the situation on gut strings for me. As I am a heavy
gut player, I'd like to
understand what is going on in this field.
As far as I understood it, the production and import of gut strings
(esp. beef gut) used to be forbidden in the EU,
due to
Hi Hubert,
It is guardame las vacas by Luys de Narvaez. But it has been changed somewhat.
Nice piece though.
Lex
Op 20 nov 2011, om 16:28 heeft Hubert Kwisthout het volgende geschreven:
Dear Lutenists,
Who can tell me the name of this tune played by prog rock Group Ars Nova
(1968):
This is hilarious - we know that vihuelas had unison basses, therefore
if they had double trebles, there is a connection between double trebles
and unison basses, even on lutes.
Just how many false assumptions are in there? I've lost count, but
vihuelas may or may not have had unison basses
at the Library of Congress:
http://1.usa.gov/tdD129
It must be a lutar, but it is nevertheless interesting that anyone even thought
of doing these at that time.
Daniel
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Dear lutenetters of America,
A
I have found out throught the french lutenet, that gut strings are
still being made in Morocco:
A
[1]http://www.pure-corde.com/en
A
--
A
Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
A
[2]www.estavel.org
A
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References
1.
Just as side note to this,A the ban appears to be European and not
just Italian.A Mad cow disease in europe led to this ban, which
ultimately led to the closing of SOFRACOB.A The ban appears to have
been lifted in certain instances, such as for sausage casing in France.
Obviously
Sean,
That's the best explanation/description of the sound/feel of gut bass strings
I've ever read. To me, (as the player- close to the instrument in direct
physical contact with it) the gut basses sound much bassier than overspuns-
which are all hard edge outline of the note, with too much
Don't know about Boulez and Gounod, but Berlioz would sound fantastique only
with octaves. There is actually an archlute intab. of Debussy's fille aux
cheveux de lin that is great fun to read through. Very refreshing and
delightful harmonies, especially on the archlute. Some impossible high
From: Daniel Winheld dwinh...@comcast.net
To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Cc: Lutelist LUTELIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:10 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Buzzing [was Gut strings]
Hi-I often practice this technique--playing only the 6th course
Anton's Lute Tabs (Anton Höger) website seems to be closed down. Is
Anton and his lute tabs still around on another site?
Thanks for any help.
Cheers,
Marc
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m...@earlymusicnews.org
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Try the following links. They all work for me.
2 Lutes (10-chors) http://www.mediafire.com/?ri3bfub90frwu
2 Lutes (ad Quartam)http://www.mediafire.com/?nalde7cqaafu3
2 Lutes (ad Secundam) http://www.mediafire.com/?ae2lzum1z3ms0
2 Lutes (Unisono)
Yes, and after the fix-it ticket, you still did not fix it.
We need to send Interpol Lute Squd to set you straight.
At 06:52 PM 11/20/2011, Daniel Winheld wrote:
Howard, you of all people should know that ignorance of the law is
no excuse! But I did exaggerate. 6th course unison on a Baroque
I just had the great pleasure of visiting MIM - the recently opened Musical
Instrument Museum - in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. It is a beautiful and spacious
museum. Music traditions from all around the world are displayed by region or
country with authentic instruments and many fascinating field
I recently learned (thanks to Henrik Hasenfuss) that pushing the octave
string a bit down at the bridge, and pulling the bass a bit up greatly
changes my ability to make a well balanced or even more fundamental sound
with my right hand index finger. The melody line in the Straube Sonatas,
Hi,
I was reading an article by Toyohiko Satoh in Vol. II (1969) of the LSA
Journal entitled A Method for Stringing Lutes. In it he recommends
using 1/4^th to 1/5^th the tension on the octave string compared to the
fundamental and that this will emphasize the fundamental and put
Hi David,
Thanks. Nice to know that his download pages are still available, but I
was looking more for a website with webpresence for Anton. I have
http://antonslutetabs.npage.de for his name but it no longer works.
Cheers
Marc
Le 2011-11-20 23:06, David Smith a écrit :
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