[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-07 Thread Sean Smith
20 15:22 To: [5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c It seems to me that moveable type doesn't seem to have anything to do with the decision. The types with the l

[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-07 Thread MJ Hodgson
decades of the seventeenth. __ From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of Tristan von Neumann Sent: 04 August 2020 15:22 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was

[LUTE] Re: Tablature letters on lines - was Re: e vs c

2020-08-04 Thread Tristan von Neumann
It seems to me that moveable type doesn't seem to have anything to do with the decision. The types with the line already included (as in scores) are on-line (Phalèse). If you print in two steps with the lines first then the letters, above-line seems more common, maybe easier to align. On 04.0

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-20 Thread Steve Acklin
Interesting article about Alpine tonewood. https://www.thestrad.com/news/saving-stradivaris-forests-effort-to-harvest-precious-tonewoods-felled-in-storms/8460.article

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Thanks Ron, for reminding me of Coelho's site. There is SO much erudite and relevant material there! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
..only after a couple of schnaps ! :-) Jean-Marie -- >..and in German tablature :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Shepherd
..and in German tablature :) On 11/12/2018 20:33, Arto Wikla wrote: I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the t

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora pote

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread r . turovsky
What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Modern tablatures appear to be a substitute > for reading music in

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
Many thanks Goran for your kind words. Tablature is insufficiently recognized as the first form of computer code: converting music to numbers was done long before DVDs came about, after all. I am really glad though that tablature never made it to the compression stage... Although you could argu

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-08-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
Sorry, list -- Alain, You may want to have a look to your junk folder, as your machine seems to classify my mails as junk. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-05-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Alain, That looks terrific! Yes, that's it! Great! Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Alain Veylit Gesendet: Montag, 29. Mai 2017 21:44 An: Mathias Rösel; 'Lute net' Betreff: [LUTE

[LUTE] Re: tablature d'angelique

2017-05-29 Thread Alain Veylit
See http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/showcase/preview/232 for Fandango support of Angelique tablature - this is based on the Monin book (the first piece...). If someone needs the other styles of diapason notation for the Angelique, they should ask for it specifically... The Angelique impleme

[LUTE] Re: Tablature software

2015-03-22 Thread Alain
Hi everyone, I would like to invite all interested people to experiment with the new incarnation of my tablature and notation software, DjangoTab. I posted a short video on the site so you can get an idea of the functions before getting further into the process. The demo version is fully funct

[LUTE] Re: tablature source I.D.

2014-01-05 Thread Leonard Williams
Reply to my own plea for help: Found it! The music in question was photocopies from my Lute News No. 60 Music Supplement. Cheers! On 1/4/14, 5:25 PM, "Leonard Williams" wrote: >Tab Archivists: > I¹m looking at a couple of print-outs of tab for which I¹m having > trouble >find

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread sterling price
Regarding hand written music--- If given a choice, I would always prefer hand written tab to computer tab, especially with baroque music. I am baffled why anyone would choose computer over original, when the original is so clear and beautiful. When the original is not legible that is

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Tobiah
On 11/19/2013 11:44 AM, Arto Wikla wrote: Dear all, I understand wholeheartedly the need for a good tool for tabulature publishing, but how beautiful are many of the original tabulatures! And they all - also those that are not so beautiful - are very personal! So why not write also nowadays by

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear all, I understand wholeheartedly the need for a good tool for tabulature publishing, but how beautiful are many of the original tabulatures! And they all - also those that are not so beautiful - are very personal! So why not write also nowadays by your own hand? No limitations in the ava

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Nancy Carlin
There are a lot of really nice things about Fronimo, but when you get to baroque music there are some ornament signs and right hand symbols that are not available. I have gotten around this by importing a pdf into Photoshop and adding what I needed. Has anyone tried Paul Beier's new tab progr

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Could you not simply publish a facsimile edition of the original source and so avoid subjective input and if anyone wishes they could then make their own tablature transcription to suit personal preferences. MH On Tue, 11/19/13, Anthony Hart <[1]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com> wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Daniel F. Heiman
maximize them, if you want special effects). Regards, Daniel Heiman -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel F. Heiman Sent: 19 November, 2013 00:54 To: 'Anthony Hart' Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tab

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread William Brohinsky
My personal preference is to see the edition in the same form as the original manuscript, staff notation for staff notation, numerical tab for numerical, 'upside up' for upside up, etc (with the understanding that other than direction, I'm not inferring that numeric should or must be

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hi Anthony, I'm not sure there is any consensus at all regarding lute music in staff notation. As for my personal feelings, if the original notation is mensural staff notation, I would like a performing edition also in staff notation. For practical reasons, it is nice to play from a clean c

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-19 Thread jean-michel Catherinot
I agree with Daniel. Regards Le Mardi 19 novembre 2013 7h57, Daniel F. Heiman a ecrit : Anthony: Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition. The cost of the software is moderate given the a

[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

2013-11-18 Thread Daniel F. Heiman
Anthony: Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition. The cost of the software is moderate given the amount of time and effort that has been put into creating it. Input of tablature is very easy and very quick.

[LUTE] Re: tablature ?! scam

2013-08-27 Thread Monica Hall
Felix is a superior brand of cat food in the UK at least. Felix features on the box - he is a black and white moggie. The food is in individual pouches and cats love it. Monica - Original Message - From: "David van Ooijen" To: "lutelist Net" Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:51 PM

[LUTE] Re: tablature ?! scam

2013-08-26 Thread Geoff Gaherty
On 26/08/13 3:51 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Look what the cat brought in today. It was addressed to Felix. (Who's Felix?) The subject matter was 'tablature'. I knew they were forging email addresses, but this is the first time I've seen a forged subject field! She must be a lutenist too!

[LUTE] Re: Tablature fonts for Fronimo

2013-08-09 Thread adS
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[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Valéry, As for your initial question, the rondeau on fol. 51v is listed by Peter Steur with ten concordances: 1. A-ETgoëssV / 28v | 2. CZ-Bm189 / 108 (mandora) | 3. D-Gs84k / 40 | 4. GB-HAB2 / 181 (Sm 505) | 5. PL-Wn396 / 15v | 6. S-Klm 4a / 4v (keyboard) | 7. S-Klm21072 / 7

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
> So I wonder why, from folio 48r to 60 the tab use a low course, some notes > below the fifth line of the tab, often (if not all time ? I have to look > again) open string, and it is not used any more from folio 61 to the end of tab ? > For me this last part of tab is perhaps intended for guitar a

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Valéry Sauvage
title named both instrument, guitar and mandora. (seems the scribe is not the same...) -Message d'origine- De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part de Mathias Rösel Envoyé : mardi 27 mars 2012 16:04 À : 'Martyn Hodgson' Cc : 'Lute Lis

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
> > Indeed I noticed the gallichon tuning, and wrote: "Interestingly > > one tuning on fol 6 is given as for the 'Calledono' which I presume > > refers to the gallichon thus once again showing an interchange in usage > > between the mandora and gallichon - though the tuning given is not > > one I r

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
hias RAP:sel < <mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de> mathias.roe...@t-online.de> >wrote: > > From: Mathias RAP:sel < <mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de> mathias.roe...@t-online.de> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare > To: "&

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-27 Thread Martyn Hodgson
rary sources such as the Deisel MSs work best with this arrangement. But mere speculation of course.. Martyn --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Mathias RAP:sel wrote: From: Mathias RAP:sel Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare To: "'Lute Dmth'"

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
>The tablature is for guitar or mandora (a 6th course is required on the >earlier folios). Folio 48r shows the tuning with a 6th course (at nominal G ie a tone >below the 5th course) so this certainly looks like mandora music. The intervals >between the highest five courses is ident

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
>The tablature is for guitar or mandora (a 6th course is required on the >earlier folios). Folio 48r shows the tuning with a 6th course (at nominal G ie a tone >below the 5th course) so this certainly looks like mandora music. The intervals >between the highest five courses is ident

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
- tho' some seem familiar ( a bit like Deisel's output) but the later staff notation pieces include music from Lully's (I think) Bellepheron. Martyn --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Valery Sauvage wrote: From: Valery Sauvage Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: Tablature M

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Monica Hall
In modern terms, the ms. is neither for the guitar nor for the mandora, but for archguitar (see http://youtu.be/CNJaYInbbhs), as you can see on p. 48v. The required instrument has 12 (twelve) courses. The headline nevertheless reads: Accordo Cytharræ et Mandoræ. As far as I could make out t

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
> [1]http://www.europeana.eu/portal/record/92004/8BBCF27BFD3362850AA8C1 > 98 >B985D9AD99E3393B.html?query=Losy+guitar > > >This is an interesting Ms with tabs for Mandora (Galichon ?) and >baroque guitar (from F. 48r, 6 courses, from 60v for 5 courses) Some >bibliographical inform

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare

2012-03-26 Thread Valéry Sauvage
You have to put together the two lines as there was a cut in the link... (all what is between < and > ) V. De : Martyn Hodgson [mailto:hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk]

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Leonard Williams
at should support correctly and completely modern and > ancient notation, together with the many variants of tablature. > > Francesco > >> -Original Message- >> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On >> Behalf Of Mark Probert &g

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Ron Andrico
4:04:04 +0200 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: tribi...@arcetri.astro.it > Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs > > What about abc/abctab? It's a textual format, like Wayne's TAB format, > Django as far as I know supports it (partially, com

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Francesco Tribioli
any variants of tablature. Francesco > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of Mark Probert > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:12 PM > To: 'lute net' > Cc: R. Mattes; Taco Walstra > Su

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Mark Probert
Hi... > On 08/16/2011 11:12 AM, R. Mattes wrote: > > > > I have to aconfess that I'm not too enthusiastic about XML as a storage > > format for (lute) tablature. > > I second your last statement. > I also agree, thinking that XML is a pox on all our houses :-) However, in this case, having

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Taco Walstra
On 08/16/2011 11:12 AM, R. Mattes wrote: Interestingly enough, Tim's TabCode format is the inspiration for the tab format I have used to export Django files to a Braille compatible printer. Another advantage of XML is that it can be rewritten using XSL into a large variety of other formats, in

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread R. Mattes
riginal Message- > > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > > Of Alain > > Sent: 15 August 2011 19:00 > > To: R. Mattes > > Cc: Eugene Kurenko; David Smith; Monica Hall; SCOTT ZEIDEL; Lutelist > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: tabla

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-16 Thread Markus Lutz
Hi Mark and Alain, in my eyes it would be very good to have a format that can be exchanged without problems between different notation and tablature programs. XML seems to be the best choice at the moment. There might be some problems with it, but it is in every case possible to expand that fo

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Mark Probert
Hi, Alain... > > However, it must be noted that the MusicXML format is not extremely > friendly to music in tablature format... In looking quickly at the MusicXML 3.0 spec (link below) I would agree. Further, I would argue that it is not very friendly to pre-Classical Western music. For exa

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Alain
avid Smith; Monica Hall; SCOTT ZEIDEL; Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs Hi all, Ralf raises a very important point (see his quote below). Transcribing music is a very time intensive, highly skilled job and software can be fickle... However, if I may consider myself one of th

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Denys Stephens
d Smith; Monica Hall; SCOTT ZEIDEL; Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs Hi all, Ralf raises a very important point (see his quote below). Transcribing music is a very time intensive, highly skilled job and software can be fickle... However, if I may consider myself one of t

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Monica Hall
Yes they were - and actually Alain has made some improvements to the programme since then - so I think that's the way to go. Best Monica - Original Message - From: "SCOTT ZEIDEL" To: "Lutelist" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 3:55 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: ta

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread SCOTT ZEIDEL
Thank you, everyone, for the information about tablature software programs. Alfabeto presents, as Monica Hall points out, a very special problem. I assume, Monica, that some of the transcriptions on your wonderful site (http://www.monicahall.co.uk) were done with Django. They look beautiful. So,

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Monica Hall
- Original Message - From: "David van Ooijen" To: "Lutelist" Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:54 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs On 15 August 2011 08:11, Eugene Kurenko wrote: I use Beier tab: [1]http://www.musico.it/lute_software/beierta

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread Monica Hall
the lowest line of the staff for Italian. But it is not perfect and Alain keeps updating it which sometimes creates problems. Monica - Original Message - From: "A. J. Ness" To: "Monica Hall" Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: tablatu

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread David van Ooijen
On 15 August 2011 08:11, Eugene Kurenko wrote: >   I use Beier tab: > >   [1]http://www.musico.it/lute_software/beiertab.htm Earl Christy and I used to make Earl's edition of Baroque lute music for the LGS (Musica Oscura Vol 1). David -- *** David van Ooijen davidva

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-15 Thread R. Mattes
ic.com/fronimo/index.html. > David > -Original Message- > From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu > [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf > Of Monica Hall > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:05 PM > To: SCOTT ZEIDEL > Cc: Lut

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-14 Thread Eugene Kurenko
David -Original Message- From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Monica Hall Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 2:05 PM To: SCOTT ZEIDEL Cc: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs Django will up

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-14 Thread David Smith
: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature software programs Django will up to a point although it is not perfect. It will put alfabeto letters on the tablature stave although it wont do + or &. I use X for the former and write the latter out in tab. You will find the detail

[LUTE] Re: tablature software programs

2011-08-14 Thread Monica Hall
Django will up to a point although it is not perfect. It will put alfabeto letters on the tablature stave although it wont do + or &. I use X for the former and write the latter out in tab. You will find the details at www.musickshandmade.com Monica - Original Message - From: "SCO

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-10 Thread David Tayler
I do in a sense. I think the lute has *way* too small a pool of performers and audience. To create a large professional class and amateur base we have to do something different, we have to make big changes. Had we started this 20 years ago, there would be 20 times more professional players, and

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Am 9 Dec 2008 um 14:47 hat David Tayler geschrieben: > 7. All editions should be free. We need more lute players. Thanks to > all who make the music available. Yes, and all lessons likewise. And all the concerts, we need more listeners, you see. After all the applause is the bread of the arti

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread demery
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008, howard posner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: > >> However you should note that one cannot run Windows on a PPC- Mac. how about mac OS on a pentium with a partition for windoz? Yes, it obliges purchase of pentium, which i supo

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Sean Smith
Me too for the last 5(?) years and the only program I run on it is Fronimo which works mostly fine. (ok, and Firefox to download the newest Fronimo 3 from time to time ;^) My only slowdown is playing the midi files. I have to save them as midi files, send them to the shared folder and then op

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Roman Turovsky
o: "lute mailing list list" Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines @ Howard Posner: Probably off topic: Sorry! You mean you have actually been able to use Fronimo with Virtual PC? That is no mean feat! I've tried using it but it wa

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread howard posner
On Dec 9, 2008, at 4:47 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: > You mean you have actually been able to use Fronimo with Virtual PC? I've never tried to use Fronimo. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Lex van Sante
@ Howard Posner: Probably off topic: Sorry! You mean you have actually been able to use Fronimo with Virtual PC? That is no mean feat! I've tried using it but it was all very slow, unstable, not to mention costly. I was fortunate that my Apple dealer at the time offered me a chance to test th

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread howard posner
On Dec 9, 2008, at 2:29 PM, Lex van Sante wrote: > However you should note that one cannot run Windows on a PPC- Mac. I do it all the time using Virtual PC. Not exactly a perfect option... -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.h

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread David Tayler
I think everyone has their faves, just like the original copyists. Here's a few themes: 1. Landscape vs portrait-- Both existed historically, some formats work better for some music. But see below 2. Diplomatic facsimile--hints at, or strongly resembles the original. A very good choice for many l

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Lex van Sante
@Betsy Lahaussois: Intel macs can run windows very well via Boot Camp or Parallels or some other virtualisation tool. If you use Boot Camp (free with OSX leopard) you will only need a Legal copy of Windows XP with an integrated SP2 or later. Vista will run fine as well. How to do that is ex

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread demery
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008, David van Ooijen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Clarity above clutter is a common factor in many postings. agreed, clutter is bad for legibility. Grids can be good, when the music has a regular pulse that is shown clearly. Sparse flags can get me lost, the occaisional redunda

[LUTE] Re: Tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread Francesco Tribioli
gt; > Best wishes, > > Stewart McCoy. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 December 2008 20:16 > To: List LUTELIST; howard posner > Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines > > One feature in Final

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines, impossible!

2008-12-09 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 1:19 AM To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines, impossible! >> If you provide tablature in electronic format you completely loose control. >true.

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-09 Thread David van Ooijen
Clarity above clutter is a common factor in many postings. Personal preferences - grid rhythm signs versus minimal use of rhythm signs, landscape versus portrait, where to place measure numbers - are not interesting in itself, but if there are enough people sending in their preferences some sort of

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines, impossible!

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
s, which is why I've never even asked. Open Source is an interesting and sometimes useful approach to things, but it has its limits. Guy -Original Message- From: adS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:20 PM To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Leonard Williams
Portrait. New rhythm sign at a change or at a new line. I have some poorly edited publications in which a rhythm sign is redundantly introduced, and it just causes confusion. Consistency within a piece is perhaps the better rule: new sign only with a change of rhythm or line; or, all notes usin

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Betsy Lahaussois
IL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:02 PM To: 'Doc Rossi' Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Word 2007 has a Save to PDF feature (introduced with that version, I think). Never tried it, though. Guy -Original Message

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
Hit Reply instead of Reply All... -Original Message- From: Guy Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 1:02 PM To: 'Doc Rossi' Subject: RE: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Word 2007 has a Save to PDF feature (introduced with that version, I thi

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Doc Rossi
For PDFs, Mac OSX has a built-in Print to PDF feature that works well. For Windows there are free virtual printers around that also work pretty well. I remember using one that had Pony in the name (sorry to be so vague). On Dec 8, 2008, at 9:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, New to t

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread tom
Hi, New to ther Lute list, and just acquired a Renaissance lute and had a wonderful lesson with Ed Martin last Thursday. I have been typesetting and transcribing music in Finale since 2000. I just acquired and registered Fronimo last night. What I am seeing in this thread are pleas for BOTH

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 8:30 AM, Peter Nightingale wrote: > > See Feynman: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZcpTTjjXY > Fascinating, captain. A prominent scientist offering two minutes of meaningless generalities without a single fact. Completely illogical. Yours truly. Mr. Spock -- To get on

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
than me and Rainer who seem to be antipodic in this matter. pls. read between the lines... - Original Message - From: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines On

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
formatting. -Original Message- From: Sean Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:51 AM To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Well, there you go. I can appreciate that. See, choice is good. That's if we are designing a program fo

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread William Brohinsky
anyone to get too didactic, really! >> >> ray >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM, G. Crona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> If you actually tried to play from it, I believe that you'd get my point. >>> >>> G. >>&

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:18 AM, G. Crona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you actually tried to play from it, I believe that you'd get my point. G. - Original Message - From: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
Sean, you and I seem to be somewhat more in agreement than me and Rainer who seem to be antipodic in this matter. pls. read between the lines... - Original Message - From: "Sean Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Lute Net" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread William Brohinsky
wrote: > If you actually tried to play from it, I believe that you'd get my point. > > G. > > - Original Message - From: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:51 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
If you actually tried to play from it, I believe that you'd get my point. G. - Original Message - From: "Spring, aus dem, Rainer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines -Original

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Guy Smith
ugh that's more important for accompaniment or ensemble playing. -Original Message- From: Spring, aus dem, Rainer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 7:51 AM To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines -Original Message-

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Sean Smith
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: Hm, Me too, mmm. I don't mean to "answer" Rainer here but will offer my responses to the same questions to show my differing taste. Landscape view, to make the score easily readable on the screen (or steady on the music stand) I p

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: G. Crona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:34 PM To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines Yeah! >But jokes aside, if one would actually take a look at, and play from tablature >on the lines, one

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "List LUTELIST" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: Would you strike through everything in a book? It would be a great improvement in many b

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread howard posner
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:54 AM, Spring, aus dem, Rainer wrote: > Would you strike through everything in a book? It would be a great improvement in many books. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
Hm, >Landscape view, to make the score easily readable on the screen (or steady on >the music stand) I prefer portrait and I never play from the screen >Do not repeat rhytmic signs until they actually change value (much easier to >read in all respects, also for prima-vista) For me this is v

[LUTE] Re: tablature notation guidelines

2008-12-08 Thread G. Crona
David, I agree with your preferences, especially about the diapassons. FWIW, here are some personal guidelines that have crystalized through the years, and this in relation to tablatures only, I'm not talking about grand staff or notation: Landscape view, to make the score easily readable o

[LUTE] Re: Tablature Fonts for Mac

2008-10-07 Thread Eric Crouch
I have imported Fronimo fonts for use in Sibelius on OS X, and presumably you could use them with other programs. I can't remember if I needed to convert them to make them 'Mac friendly', but I could email you copies that work if you are interested. The fonts are, of course, subject to copy

[LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC

2008-01-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
o have survived. Cheers, Jim From: Lex Eisenhardt Date: 2008/01/19 Sat AM 04:41:57 CST To: Martyn Hodgson , lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC As you probably know there are a few references to guitars and early stage performances (Cavalieri, Landi, Rossi). E

[LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC

2008-01-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Yes, I wouldn't expect to see 'guitar part' alfabeto etc in opera scores, much as I wouldn't expect to see an intabulated theorbo part either. Martyn Lex Eisenhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As you probably know there are a few references to guitars and early stage performance

[LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC

2008-01-19 Thread jslute
necessarily mean no guitar was used. And whether or not he scrawled some alfabeto chords on his part, such parts are unlikely to have survived. Cheers, Jim From: Lex Eisenhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2008/01/19 Sat AM 04:41:57 CST To: Martyn Hodgson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, lute

[LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC

2008-01-19 Thread Martyn Hodgson
A good point - but it would, of course, be useful to see at least one reference to a guitarist in the lists. Much work has been done on English theatre lists but I'm ignorant of the state of research into Italian opera house lists (assuming they exist other than a few freak survivals). Mar

[LUTE] Re: tablature, alfabeto and BC

2008-01-19 Thread Lex Eisenhardt
..and another... > The exercises in the books by Corbetta et al include examples showing > which > alfabeto chords match the the notes of the bass part e.g. The Regola per > sonar sopra la parte on p.70 on Corbetta's are surely intended to help > the > player devise a strummed accompaniment.

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