Hi!
There are several out there but i haven't tested them.
/A
> 20 okt 2014 kl. 07:01 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>
> How cool would that be! An app that turns your i-device into a trackpad for
> your Mac!
>
> --
> Cheryl
>
> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
> I got crumpled wads of tear-
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: osx 10.10
I just sent my problem to Apple Accessibility, so maybe, just maybe, I won't
have to throw this mac away, lol. This is so horrible that
There are a number of apps that do this although I haven't tried any of
them. Here is a free one so give it a whirl:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/remote-mouse-mobile-trackpad/id385894596
Here is another free one:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/mobile-mouse-remote-mouse/id356395556
Any yet
I didn't say that either. What I said was that all bugs get prioritized. That
means that necessarily some of our bugs will be lower down the list than some
other bugs. Similarly, some other bugs will be lower down on the list than some
of ours. We can't always get top billing, and it's unrealist
Whatever the reasons, we're caught in the crossfire. I'm personally convinced,
having reported bugs to Apple, that some get fixed, and others do not. It may
be a purely clerical issue which do and which don't, and this is part of the
reason I implore people to get brave and test and report on
You know, I was thinking about that and realized that, in the interests of not
berating a sighted world for this, another corollary should be added. While
most of us can't see or have some limits on our vision, it is indeed an
extremely visual world and universe. Not that it isn't a world and un
I also have the same clock with the missing battery cover. LOL I have a cat to
thank for that.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
>
> I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking
> clock, a bit dented from being dropped and
I'm sorry for your misinterpretation of what I said.
I never inferred and/or said that you didn't request "bug' and/or
"flaw" fixes. I said you inferred that with mainstream access
(accessibility), other issues take presidence over our issues, and I
regretfully disagree since these MobileDevice
And this just proves people will hear exactly what they want to hear. Nowhere
did I say that we shouldn't ask for fixes, point out problelms that need fixed,
or anything of the sort. Trust the system? Who ever said that? Not me.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile:
I've had to sometimes use CMD+FN+F5 to get VO to come up, when the keyboard
wasn't set for function keys to not control hardware functions. Well, it's
something to try, anyway.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: bu...@brannan.name
> On Oct 19
In the ideal world there would be no priorities as to what bugs or issues would
be fixed or not, but this ain't the ideal world and will never be. Graphics and
snazzy visual things will *always* have a higher priority because like it or
not, we're a very, very small minority. So small in fact th
Hi,
I also liked the Sharp Talking Time and still have one. But I understand why
companies discontinue selling these products because the market is so limited.
That's why the Optacons are no longer available unless you are lucky enough to
have one, like I am. Making them was probably expensi
I can't speak for Pamela, but I would presume she would vent her
frustrations with the Lack of Accessibility with Apple's Products in
a different fashion than she vents on this List. They are two totally
different forums. I mean. Would you respond to your Employer like you
would your Parents (I
Ah yes, I definitely remember what Sharp did.
The Talking Time was the first Sharp talking clock. It was a marvel of
accessibility for one of the first talking clocks. Within a few years, a very
large number of blind people wanted them. By that time, Sharp was no longer
selling them. In fact, t
I'm just gonna erase the macintosh hd partition and reinstal again. If... Oh,
that worked!!! Yay!
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
> If you still have sighted help, have the person click in the password field,
> then try typing. Once you log in, you can go
Oh, and for future reference, I don't have a pet mouse. Those rodents are too
much trouble. But I may just try and find one, or... Oh my gosh, I could get a
trackpad! Unless someone has found an actual iOS app for that that actually
works as a trackpad.
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at
What worked?
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the
It is one with a trasmitter. But it works, now. I just hope it keeps working.
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
> Yeah, I had a problem with a Logitech at login but I can't remember if it was
> at a regular login or at fievault.
>
> is it usb with a cab
How cool would that be! An app that turns your i-device into a trackpad for
your Mac!
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"
I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking
clock, a bit dented from being dropped and I lost the cover to the battery
compartment but still works! Isn't that just hysterically funny? Not the point
I know but it gives me a great laugh!
--
Cheryl
I tried and trie
I don't recall people saying that complaining to Apple would ruin
accessibility. It is how you complain and your perspective that are being
debated as far as I know.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gav
The only response I have is:
I worked with a large consumer electronics company back in 2000 which will
remain nameless. The company invented a new way of creating a refreshable
braille display. This development cost the company several million dollars.
After the project was finished, the compa
Yeah, I had a problem with a Logitech at login but I can't remember if it was
at a regular login or at fievault.
is it usb with a cable or usb with one of those transmitters. That still could
be the problem if it's the latter.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpl
In addition, bugs are extremely difficult to track down. In code this complex,
repairing one bug, or making changes in one area, often causes bugs to appear
in completely unrelated areas that make no sense how it could possibly have
caused such a bug.
As for intermentent bugs, those are the mos
To sum it all up, Seems to me that too many of us blind people want everything
for nothing and we think the world should pay attention only to us and cater to
only our needs because it's all about us 24/7. Got news for y'all. It isn't.
Just deal with it. IF you want to operate in the sighted
Considering that Microsoft released Windows 8.1 (to bring back what
they thought was useless?), is it stretching the truth any to expect
that Apple will listen and bring back the camera roll and the sidebar?
Its hardly a farfetched idea. I would not be surprised if that happens.
That is
If you still have sighted help, have the person click in the password field,
then try typing. Once you log in, you can go to System Preferences and make
sure VoiceOver is set to come on at the login screen. If it is, try unchecking
and re-checking the box.
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Devin P
Just an FYI to those of you who feel that complaining to Apple will ruin
accessibility which is a very laughable premise. I just read an article on a
main stream tech site where many in the sighted world have lit up the Apple
forums complaining about the loss of the side bar in iTunes. I wonder
Its been sitting there for quite a while. My keyboard doasome not have a fn
key. It is a Logitech keyboard, and worked fine under the recovery partition.
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
> Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard d
In my humble opinion, I don't agree with your assessment as it
pertains to mainstream accessibility (Out of the Box). If these
mainstream products are going to be incorporated into Public
Education settings, and people with disabilities are going to be
mainstreamed, how can Apple products be re
They do pay attention. In a software system like this there are hundreds of
thousands of lines of code. there are at times hundreds to a few thousands of
bugs in a program like Yosemite. Things get fixed in level of severity. Not
that your problems are not saver, but they do get fixed. If a
Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard drive hasn't
gone dead because it would be a different partition on the same drive. Can I
assume you waited a good long time after putting in your password and pressing
enter? not trying to insult your intelligence; just trying to w
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: osx 10.10
Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating.
Don't, under any cond
I've never enabled file vault. Also, I'm on a USb keyboard
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
> Okay, let me ask you a couple more questions.
>
> Did you enable file vault or is there any possibility of that?
>
> What keyboard are you using? It might be t
I just sent my problem to Apple Accessibility, so maybe, just maybe, I won't
have to throw this mac away, lol. This is so horrible that it's laughable.
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Robin wrote:
>
> You're right, and I agree.
>
> At 03:53 PM 10/19/2014, you wrote:
>> Thank
Okay, let me ask you a couple more questions.
Did you enable file vault or is there any possibility of that?
What keyboard are you using? It might be that your keyboard and the Mac aren't
working together, especially if it's bluetooth. If you are using a bluetooth
keyboard, can you try a differ
You're right, and I agree.
At 03:53 PM 10/19/2014, you wrote:
Thank God Eileen you have some sense.
There are too many people out here who are too willing to settle for
whatever Apple gives us for fear of everything being taken from us.
If we don't make our voices heard, Apple will take everyt
Sighted help says I'm at the login screen, and that when I type the password
nothing happens.
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
> Apparently all you know is that vo isn't talking. Have you been able to get
> sighted help to figure out what is wrong. Yes
Apparently all you know is that vo isn't talking. Have you been able to get
sighted help to figure out what is wrong. Yes, I too don't have a lot of
sighted help and hate being told that, but sometimes there's no other recourse
when you run out of ideas. Usually it's kind of hard to know who to
Pam,
Point us to a company that produces bug free hardware and software.
Apple is still premium, you just cannot accept the reality check.
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 5:53 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
I don't make a statement lik
Pam,
Can you definitinely show us proof that our needs are less important
to Apple?
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 5:23 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
Hi Buddy,
I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why
Well, now my mac is unusable. I starteaed it up, and voiceover wasn't speaking.
I reinstalled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter my password and
nothing happens when I press enter. So good job Apple, I can't use my mac in
other than recovery mode. Thanks. Good going Apple. A good wa
I've been running it since the july beta, and IMO it has worked great from the
start, much much better than mavericks.
Alia
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:59 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>
> I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating
> system. Everything is responsive, and I'v
I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating system.
Everything is responsive, and I've noticed no bugs so far. I'm not sure why
poor Pam is having such a rough time with this update, because everything is
working flawlessly for me. Sorry to rub it in Pam.
> On 20 Oct
Accessibility bugs are no more or less important. While Apple took a year to
fix iBooks, they have yet to fix broken display drivers on 2011 Macbook Pros
under Mavericks, and now Yosemite; they took months to fix a bug in Mavericks
where many Airs failed to reconnect to wifi upon waking; they st
I don't make a statement like that unless I can back it up. I will write you
off list. Will not be tonight, I have to get my ducks in a row before I can
send them to you.
I guarantee you, it won't matter. As much as we would like to think they do
they truly don't care anymore. Why can't somethin
What proof do you have that these issues weren't (and aren't) paid attention
to? Again, it's a matter of priority. Not everything can be done in a given
release under a given time line. If Apple waited for everything to be bug-free,
nothing would get released. Ever. If you have real concrete pro
Hi Buddy,
I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why when
there are visually impaired beta testers under NDA specifically to report
issues that deal with accessibility does Apple not pay attention to what is
being reported to them? If it was something to do with gra
I should have waited before adding to the thread for Buddy's post is
absolutely spot on. I cannot add to that.
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 4:33 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyon
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyone else. Now that we
have mainstream access to mainstream products, that also means that our bugs
get stuck in the queue with everyone else's bugs. They get prioritized along
with everybody else's bugs. And they get fixed in the schedule w
f We want to play on the same level field as non disabled people. Why
should we expect more than that?
How does Microsoft and Google stack up against Apple? WHne the first
iPhone came out, I had no idea that eventually it could be made
accessible. It blows my mind that I bought a mainstre
It is over reaching to suggest that Apple might regress because us
poor blind folk are not proactive. I am not privy to all the forums that
blind people hang out at, or privy to behind the scenes at Apple. So I
cannot state categorically anything across the board.
We have access to Apple
In the answer to a couple of your questions, ask for a company making their
products usable by the disabled, do you or do you not remember what sharp did
for us with talking clocks and calculators? Do you also know that Panasonic
makes optional talking caller ID in its cordless phones? For year
Thank God Eileen you have some sense.
There are too many people out here who are too willing to settle for whatever
Apple gives us for fear of everything being taken from us. If we don't make our
voices heard, Apple will take everything from us slowly but surely, and leaving
the same people very
*grin* I completely about dev preview 1. lets just say I am glad it was first
among betas. :)
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Brandt Steenkamp
> wrote:
>
> For those complaining about Yosemite, be grateful, Apple did not release
> developer preview one to the public.
>
> I will not go into d
That is a first. The general public now dictates what the disabled
public gets? Apple develops products for the mainstream market...and
they also have enabled these same products to be usable by the disabled.
Can amy other comppany claim that?
We all can walk into any Apple store along w
For many years, Apple has been held to a higher standard in accessibility. I
posted about a problem that I was having and still having with updating my apps
in the app store on my iPhone 4 using iOS 7.0.6. I did white to the
accessibility team at Apple, but received an unacceptable response. The
Hi,
I'm normally not one to complain for the sake of complaining. I am a realist. I
know that we as a market are a minority within Apple's customer base. I will
give them credit where it's due. They did take the lead in accessibility.
However, mainstream society has caught on to the fact that Ap
Well, same was true when iOS 8 beta 1 was released to developers. It
wasn't very nice at all. Good job it only ran on my mini as didn't want
to get stuck with an unreliable, possibly unusable 4s. All is history now.
On 19/10/2014 21:18, Brandt Steenkamp wrote:
For those complaining about Yosem
For those complaining about Yosemite, be grateful, Apple did not release
developer preview one to the public.
I will not go into detail here, but suffice it to say, it was not a very nice
experience.
Everything is working like clockwork on my end now, including all continuity
features, except
The apple support article appears to say to have it enabled but it is true that
you don't have to go deliberately trying to connect your devices to each other
via bluetooth.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then
Yeah, I feel some have so much time on their hands they want to do
nothing but complain and even go as far as bashing Apple. Not fair if
you ask me considering the timeless work they do for everybody, not just us.
On 19/10/2014 20:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I can't agree with you more Juan. I
I did not have a disastrous experience. I had just gotten a new
Macbook with Mountain Lion and Mavericks came out shortly after that.
And history repeats itself today with Yosemite.
There were many complaints about Mavericks. Meanwhile, I worked with
ML, trying to forget Windows. Finally
The only real complaint i have, and that's simply because this machine is too
old, (a 2011 Imac) is that apparently the part of Handoff that lets me start a
document on one device and finish on another doesn't quite work and Airdrop
only works between macs unless there's a setting i'm not aware
I agree. While I would stop short of placing Apple on a pedestal, as no one or
company is worthy of that level of responsibility, I am realistic about the
varying preferences and needs of a customer base consisting of millions of
people, and I am steadfastly grateful for Apple and its integral
I love both Ios8 and Yosemite. They're both great.
/Krister
> 19 okt 2014 kl. 19:56 skrev Faisal :
>
> I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with you. I love the new update. the
> experience is a lot smoother than IOS 8.
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Pamela Francis wrote:
>>
>> In my opin
Well, apparently you don't need to have bluetooth enabled on your phone in
order to make or receive phone calls on the mac. I tested this and it worked.
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Jose Lomeli wrote:
>
> The only complaint I have with Yosemite is that I am having issues connecting
> my iPho
I can't agree with you more Juan. I don't know if i'm grumpy, tired or what,
but it seems to me some times we like to complain just for the sake of
complaining. I really do hope that when and if we report bugs to Apple that we
don't use the tone we use here, because if we do, they might just qui
As I've said in other threads, I find Yosemite to be a good release. The new
Spotlight doesn't give me problems, but does offer more information; Handoff
and Continuity work well; arrowing around webpages is great; iTunes is new, but
I haven't found anything I can't do. My only complaint is the
The only complaint I have with Yosemite is that I am having issues connecting
my iPhone to my Mac via Bluetooth so I can answer calls with my Mac!
Jose Lomeli
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> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
> Yes, I have it working. Had to make sure xcode was at the
Yes, I have it working. Had to make sure xcode was at the right version and
command line tools were installed. I also went through the migration process
for Macports; the only catch is that gcc in Macports won't install and I
haven't figured out if this is just a matter of waiting for a fix or i
I also updated and my word is go for it. Just goes to show that know two people
are going to have the same experience. If you are nervous about updating and
don't need to, then don't. If you don't really have anything to lose, go ahead.
If no one updates, then nobody can report bugs to Apple o
Hi!
By the way.
Have you had time to test brltty on the new yosemite?
/A
> 19 okt 2014 kl. 20:06 skrev Cheryl Homiak :
>
> Handoff is the biggest thing I like about Yosemite. There isn't really
> anything I don't like at this point except that sometimes I am having a
> problem with voiceover but
Handoff is the biggest thing I like about Yosemite. There isn't really anything
I don't like at this point except that sometimes I am having a problem with
voiceover but haven't tracked down the specifics so won't post that at this
point. It seems to me to be early to adamantly declare I don't l
I don't agree with that. I did the public beta and I upgraded on my other
computer immediately when Yosemite came out. Yes, there are some bugs and some
changes so that you will have to be flexible enough to relearn some things. If
you don't want to do that, don't upgrade for a while. If you are
I respectfully wholeheartedly disagree with you. I love the new update. the
experience is a lot smoother than IOS 8.
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Pamela Francis wrote:
>
> In my opinion, Apple has lost its way with reference to functionality. They
> concentrate on what looks pretty. If somet
It will not take all day to type this. Not eveyone thinks the
changes are crap. I offer up a tidbit. The only constant in life is change.
Lest you think I am impervious to changes, I am not. There are many
times I do not like change, but I do my best to adapt to the changes and
move on.
In my opinion, Apple has lost its way with reference to functionality. They
concentrate on what looks pretty. If something is totally redesigned, the least
they OS is some sort of a document of sorts to explain what is where and what
options have been removed especially with reference to accessi
Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safari.
I don't see all of the lag that others see.
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis wrote:
>
> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating.
> Don't, under any condition.
>
> Pam Francis
>
> On Oct
What don't you like about the update? Is there anything that would suggest that
it is worth updating in your opinion?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
>
> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating.
> Don't, under any con
Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating.
Don't, under any condition.
Pam Francis
On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer wrote:
My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that, go
for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and
Hi That sounds like a good idea.
Thanks! Jeff
On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:41 PM, The Believer wrote:
> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that,
> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I would
> wait until Yosemite matures a bit
My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all
that, go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble
free, I would wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new
features I am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same
goes for iOS 8.
Hi.
I heard sometime in October. That's all I know at this point.
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> On Sep 15, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona"
> wrote:
>
> any one know if they anounced a release
No, they haven’t.
> On Sep 15, 2014, at 7:12 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona
> wrote:
>
> any one know if they anounced a release date for osx 10.10?
>
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: osx 10.10 question
Yes, it should, if the TV is on and you've got it receiving the Mini's
signal. You may have to select the right port on your TV if you have a
choice of selectable video sources, but this is TV-specific. Long
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Subject: Re: osx 10.10 question
I have my mac connected to my tv using h d m i shouldn't that work?
On 8/12/2014 12:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
> Fit-Headless is a cute little device that plugs into your Mac Mini's (or
any other) HDMI port, and emulates a connected m
Yes, it should, if the TV is on and you've got it receiving the Mini's signal.
You may have to select the right port on your TV if you have a choice of
selectable video sources, but this is TV-specific. Long and short: if people
can see your Mac desktop on the TV, then it's working.
--
You r
I have my mac connected to my tv using h d m i
shouldn't that work?
On 8/12/2014 12:59 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
Fit-Headless is a cute little device that plugs into your Mac Mini's (or any
other) HDMI port, and emulates a connected monitor. OS X likes it very much
when it can use GPU f
Fit-Headless is a cute little device that plugs into your Mac Mini's (or any
other) HDMI port, and emulates a connected monitor. OS X likes it very much
when it can use GPU features for rendering, and the GPU is only available while
the graphics card is connected to a monitor. On a Mac Mini, t
what is a Fit-Headless device am confused
On 8/12/2014 3:06 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
I would suggest though, that as a general matter, you should use a Fit-Headless
or other similar device with Mac Minis, so the operating system can grind on
the GPU; without it, the performance will be
I would suggest though, that as a general matter, you should use a Fit-Headless
or other similar device with Mac Minis, so the operating system can grind on
the GPU; without it, the performance will be unimpressive, to say the least of
it.
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will do, my apologese
it won't happen again thanks for making me aware of this
I will report if to the proper folks
On 8/11/2014 10:19 PM, Jason White wrote:
Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
Hello am using public beta of osx 10.10
then please don't discuss it here as it's covered by
Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona wrote:
> Hello am using public beta of osx 10.10
then please don't discuss it here as it's covered by a confidentiality
agreement with Apple. I can't remember whether it was explained on this list
or not, but apparently the public beta is subject to confidentia
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