Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, ext Philip Van Hoof wrote: There are also other solutions for handling really large folders of more than 15,000 items. The problem is not so much network bandwidth of the envelopes. The problem is rather that each 5000th item the complete summary storage file is rewritten on a relatively

Re: Fw: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Hi all, I continue here a discussion you can find in this post: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/big-day-for-modest-and-tinymail (Just read the comments). This is my idea: I don't want to be able to download 15.000+ messages. I just want to download ONLY last 50, 100, 200 at

Re: Fw: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:24:24PM +0200, Andrea Grandi wrote: I continue here a discussion you can find in this post: http://pvanhoof.be/blog/index.php/2008/06/24/big-day-for-modest-and-tinymail (Just read the comments). snip Please let me know what do you think about it. I want all the

Re: Fw: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Sergio Villar Senin ha escrit: By the way, take into account the screen size constraints in which Modest runs, a threaded view won't be very useful in such a small screen. Surely it is, at least I find it useful enough in claws. You are right that you can't really see the whole thread,

Re: Fw: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Sergio Villar Senin
Luca Olivetti escribiu: En/na Sergio Villar Senin ha escrit: By the way, take into account the screen size constraints in which Modest runs, a threaded view won't be very useful in such a small screen. Surely it is, at least I find it useful enough in claws. You are right that you can't

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Bartosh
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 17:45 +0300, ext Eero Tamminen wrote: Hi, ext Niels Breet wrote: It has been a while since we had a discussion about the future requirements of the extras repository. Since there haven't been any concrete proposals for what we can do for the short-term, I have made

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Philip Van Hoof ha escrit: Polymer does a similar thing to Mulberry. The technique is indeed very interesting and could be adapted to work with offline operations too, if downloading is allowed to take place in the background and if when scrolling up and down a higher priority task to

Diablo Extras repository: Implementation of the plan

2008-06-25 Thread Niels Breet
Hi all, OS2008 Feature Upgrade[1], Maemo 4.1[2], Diablo, have been released and now we need to enable the Extras repository. There has been a lot of talk about how we can make the Diablo community repository better than the ones we had before. I have submitted a proposal[3] for the Diablo

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 01:10:28 Philip Van Hoof wrote: Polymer does a similar thing to Mulberry. I also have some very large folders and I liked the Polymer approach a lot. It is a shame the author doesn't have the time/resources to turn it into a full-featured mail application.

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:00 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008 01:10:28 Philip Van Hoof wrote: Polymer does a similar thing to Mulberry. I also have some very large folders and I liked the Polymer approach a lot. It is a shame the author doesn't have the time/resources

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:48 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Philip Van Hoof ha escrit: Polymer does a similar thing to Mulberry. The technique is indeed very interesting and could be adapted to work with offline operations too, if downloading is allowed to take place in the background

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:43:31 Ed Bartosh wrote: Now we have the same situation with rebuild. Niels is asking developers to fix their packages, but I don't see much progress with this either. We have only 10% more buildable packages for more than week of this action. A week is a long time

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Quim Gil
ext Graham Cobb wrote: In my case, a big problem is dependencies which were previously uploaded into Extras without sources. It would really help if you were to consider taking those packages which do not have sources and just copying the chinook package into diablo. Or, at least,

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Philip Van Hoof ha escrit: either I couldn't find the option or it doesn't even allow to select the sort order, neither it can thread the messages. That might be because your IMAP server doesn't support either THREAD nor SORT. sure it does: $ telnet localhost 143 Trying

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Ed Bartosh
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:28 +0100, ext Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008 09:43:31 Ed Bartosh wrote: Now we have the same situation with rebuild. Niels is asking developers to fix their packages, but I don't see much progress with this either. We have only 10% more buildable

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Frank Banul
Hi, Just a couple of thoughts. - It took me more than an hour to fix my package because I haven't done this before, ever. Each new process is a learning curve for me. I'm not complaining but I have to believe others are in positions similar to mine. - There was no deadline or goal date in the

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Quim Gil
ext Frank Banul wrote: - There was no deadline or goal date in the original announcement. People always procrastinate. - Even the packages that do build aren't available (or weren't yesterday) for the OS release. In my opinion, that's the wrong order. Get the extras available then release

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 10:47:47 Quim Gil wrote: - What are the dependency packages you need to put in place or fix? Don't answer here, go to the wiki and start the list. Rest of developers in the same situation than Graham, add your problematic packages to the list. List started:

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Graham Cobb
On Wednesday 25 June 2008 12:12:02 Ed Bartosh wrote: My opinion that tt's about 2 men days work to fix all build failures. Niels can tell how many people uploaded packages to extras. And you can see how many of them actually care to fix build failures. If each of them would spend 1(one) hour

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Jun 25 10:23:44 2008, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:00 +0100, Graham Cobb wrote: On Wednesday 25 June 2008 01:10:28 Philip Van Hoof wrote: Polymer does a similar thing to Mulberry. I also have some very large folders and I liked the Polymer approach a lot.

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 16:31 +0100, Dave Cridland wrote: On Wed Jun 25 10:23:44 2008, Philip Van Hoof wrote: My biggest problem with Modest has always been that the UI requirements seem to have driven the development, to the extent that although Tinymail is pretty good, both its

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Dave Cridland ha escrit: Tinymail is good - if Luca upgrades his IMAP server to Cyrus 2.3, he'll see a big speed increase from both Modest and Polymer, I think. I'm too old for that, now I stick with whatever version comes with the distro. However mulberry manages quite well with my

Pushing -dev packages in diablo's extras.

2008-06-25 Thread Pierre Amadio
Hi there. I realise diablo is now live, and am trying to upload some packages to the extras-devel repository. It looks like now, the step to follow are: http://extras-cauldron.garage.maemo.org/HOWTO.html#what-to-expect-as-a-result Upload seems to work, compilation too, but for an unkown reason,

Re: Diablo extras repository proposal

2008-06-25 Thread Tim Teulings
Hello! This is all good, but I don't think it makes sense to do in now. The main problem with extras for now are the maintainers' attitude. There were a lot of discussions about extras previously on this list and no real actions were done by community. I don't think it is fair to blame the

Re: Making a custom root FS

2008-06-25 Thread D. Scott Brown
On Jun 23, 2008, at 3:36 AM, Frantisek Dufka wrote: D. Scott Brown wrote: 3. extract the rootfs from the retail image, mount it, and tar it. If I mount the JFFS2 using kernel memory emulating a MTD, I get error inserting mtdram - cannot allocate memory. If I mount the JFFS2 using

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:31:28AM +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 00:57 +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:24:24PM +0200, Andrea Grandi wrote: I continue here a discussion you can find in this post:

Re: Modest/TinyMail problems (continue from the blog comments)

2008-06-25 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:25:18AM +0200, Philip Van Hoof wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 10:48 +0200, Luca Olivetti wrote: I'm currently tunneling imap through ssh with compression enabled. That's a good temporary solution indeed. Note that your SSL layer might already do compression, in