Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
and the tornado, how could we forget that Werner Fehlauer wrote: How about magnetic fuel line mileage improvers? Werner - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:38 PM Subjec

Re: [MBZ] Kleb

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
see banned post Luther Gulseth wrote: Anyone else notice how quiet Kleb has been all day? His last message was around 8:30am. Did he start the new job already? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
what uses L-jet? Not familiar with that. Zeitgeist wrote: CIS isn't a whole lot "smarter" than a carburetor, but it is simple and relatively easy to diagnose. D-jet is a cruel joke, but I actually like L-jet for its simplicity. On 2/10/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My perso

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread Peter Frederick
I beg to differ -- K-Jet is MUCH better at fuel metering than a carb -- the variation in mixture as throttle varies is much less. The fact that the injectors are placed for maximum dispersion and no intake with fuel/air mix running through it make all the difference in the world. No need for

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no B Dike wrote: Can the 126 odo be retrofitted to the 123? Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 126 odometer is different than the 123 and there is no glue needed, just replacement gears at $60-75. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you need GOOD working brakes for this Trampas wrote: Luther, If the brakes don't work fix them first or at least make sure the E-brake works. Then two start it. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Friday, Fe

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh no, another date? Luther Gulseth wrote: It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like diesel can. I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight and have to work

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
probably holes in the pistons. Luther Gulseth wrote: I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my own. I paid good money for this car ($150) with a nearly perfect interior and not a touch of rust on the paint. It only has 75kmi on the ticker. The salvage yard I got it fr

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its going to need at least around 270 to start. If you are seeing figured below 200, into the 100's or even lower, its got stuck rings or is just plain worn out. If its healthy, you will see well into the 300's. Luther Gulseth wrote: I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. Wh

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Easy: 2.76 rear end gears in the 58 chevy and 3.55 rear end gears in the Benz. The Chevy also produces somewhat less hp and torque. Emission controls on the later (post 74) SLC also cause serious fuel milage penalties. Peter

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have, or rather had, one. Its still here though. Luther Gulseth wrote: Sure, much easier to tow start if you have a tow dolly or known good brakes.. ~ ~When I put 24V on the starter what I do is disconnect the starter pos ~battery terminal from rest of system. Then place second battery

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If it has been sitting, chances are its going to take a tow start to revive it, if the engine is not shot. Question is, why has it been sitting in the first place? Luther Gulseth wrote: '82 300D (Blue Bomber). I poured some Marvel Mystery oil into each cylinder last evening and then turned

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Werner Fehlauer
How about magnetic fuel line mileage improvers? Werner - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver so its the cheapy chineese filters an

[MBZ] In the autotrader, 108 4 speed

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Noticed a 70 280SE with 4 speed on the tree today in the autotrader. Listed at $1800. If anybody wants more info, check www.traderonline.com, and go to the collector car trader section. Should be there. If not, I can check and get the number. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87

Re: [MBZ] 4 QTS!? Was New Lubro Moly product

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, they are maniacs. Well I vote for it to come back. ALthough probably not since you are a busy man now days. Gary Hurst wrote: you remember why i stopped the autotrader stuff? they accused me of spamming the list! i'm amazed at how succesfull those maniacs have been On 2/9/06, Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] Oil, oil, which oil!?

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
BZT, WRONG. As I said before, I have never seen one that way, in fact, I just checked and that is not even a stock option. Most of them were 3:42, but 3:73 was also an option. If in fact his really has 4:10 gears, I would probably go to 3:73 if I was going to do any towing. If not, or j

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Takes one to know one denial. George Gregory wrote: POT-KETTLE-BLACK One Thing you are an expert in is Morons ___ -Original Message- From: On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:21 AM well M stands for moron, that much I know.

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
so its the cheapy chineese filters and the motor honey, whats next? Bulk rate on duct tape? Things really are going the okie way. Rusty Cullens wrote: Yes, I have it in stock now. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread Jim Cathey
Yeah, and my CIS 450 SLC got 12-15 mpg tops! I think our SL has hit 17 a time or two, but 14-15 is normal IIRC. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahhh I agree on so many levels for most things but in this case... Seems like when it comes to oil all my local parts shops are staffed by such chuckleheads it boggles the mind. For parts and fuel additives and regular oils I'm there. For Mobil 1 its Wal-Mart, esp because they have the 5 qua

Re: [MBZ] spare PS filter?

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
I'm sure Rusty does. ~ ~Anyone out there have a spare power-steering filter for a 124 300D 2.5T? It ~was the one thing I forgot to order ... ~ ~-- ~Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~513-205-7474 -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E & '82 300D (par

[MBZ] spare PS filter?

2006-02-10 Thread Sunil Hari
Anyone out there have a spare power-steering filter for a 124 300D 2.5T? It was the one thing I forgot to order ... -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread kevin kraly
Rusty says: It is a Grey Market car. That would also make sense. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D unnames with unknown miles

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
NOo. I don't like the odds of loosing the nearly perfect interior! Nor do I want a n/a 240! Me likes the turbos. ~ ~I say let's find a HUUGE hill, put both mine and Luther's cars at the ~top with filters filled with ATF and wel-soaked cylinders and send them both ~to the bott

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread kevin kraly
I also have a compression tester. Maybe it's time to pull it out and test things on this 220D once it's home in the driveway. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D unnaned and unknown miles

[MBZ] Kleb

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
Anyone else notice how quiet Kleb has been all day? His last message was around 8:30am. Did he start the new job already? -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E & '82 300D (parts or run?)

Re: [MBZ] Chinese cars

2006-02-10 Thread Christopher McCann
Kia built my old Ford Festiva and it was a fabulous little car. I really regret selling it. I still see them all the time so I concluded they must have been pretty decent overall. Haven't seen a Yugo in ages. God help you if you get in a wreck in a Festiva, though. Chris [EMAIL P

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread kevin kraly
When I had a diesel Vanagon camper, I used to jokingly call it a "13 foot diesel pusher." That's very funny indeed! My wife and I have a travel trailer powered by a Dodge Cummins diesel puller, and my parents have a class C motor home. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D X01K miles, unnamed

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:33:24PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote: > Sure, much easier to tow start if you have a tow dolly or known good > brakes.. I think you've solved the brake problem. Don't need a tow dolly, all you need is a rope and something that can pull. And in your line of work, you

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years? On an engine that hasn't run in years, the results of a cold compression test will be all over the place - and only if they are rathe

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread Zeitgeist
CIS isn't a whole lot "smarter" than a carburetor, but it is simple and relatively easy to diagnose. D-jet is a cruel joke, but I actually like L-jet for its simplicity. On 2/10/06, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My personal experience with open-loop fuel injection (systems without a

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread kevin kraly
Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83 240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight. Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing tonight. You've got it right. Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon 1973 220D x01K

Re: [MBZ] Chinese cars

2006-02-10 Thread RELNGSON
<> Lets not forget that the Hyundai and Kia have improved from truly awful to merely embarrassing. Just a tic more and Chevrolet had better watch their back. RLE

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 03:43 PM, B Dike wrote: Can the 126 odo be retrofitted to the 123? Anything can be done, but the 126 has an electronic speedo 123 is mechanical. You would need to change the tranny or try to install the drive and driven gears and rear housing. Pr

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 03:31 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Question: my car has significant hesitation around 3000-3500rpm until its run for 5-10 miles. I think there may be some gelled fuel or water left in the system as after the 5-10 miles have passed it runs perfectly. I *think* the

Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-10 Thread Rory
Heck even your local oil jobber/dealer too. Price alone is not the reason. On 2/10/06, MICHAEL ESH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hate Walmart! Support your local shop/Rusty. Build a relationship you can > both live with. I spent 15 minutes at my local NAPA Auto Supply this > morning replacing m

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair

2006-02-10 Thread Trampas
I guess given enough saw blades and glue, but why? The W123 oil pressure gauge is mechanical. To use the W126 electric oil pressure sensor you have to change oil filter housing. Found this out trying to put a W123 OM617 in a W126. W126 speedometer is electric, W123 is mechanical. Trampas

[MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-10 Thread MICHAEL ESH
I hate Walmart! Support your local shop/Rusty. Build a relationship you can both live with. I spent 15 minutes at my local NAPA Auto Supply this morning replacing my wiper blades on my wife's 2005 Caravan. The guy did everything for but pay them. I love personal service Mike - Original

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
No, the 126 odometer is electrically controlled (pulse modulated) and the 123 is manually controlled by a drive cable. ~ ~Can the 126 odo be retrofitted to the 123? ~ ~Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 126 odometer is different than ~the 123 and there is no glue needed, just replace

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Odometer Repair

2006-02-10 Thread B Dike
Can the 126 odo be retrofitted to the 123? Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 126 odometer is different than the 123 and there is no glue needed, just replacement gears at $60-75. ~ ~George, ~ ~ The odometer can be fixed with super glue. First push out the instrument ~cluster by re

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 73

2006-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Followup report, 10F this morning. I glowed the 190D twice because thats what the 240D would have required. I needn't have bothered it fired right up without a worry. Thats with dino oil no less. Its funny with as badly boogered as the rest of the car is the engine seems pretty solid.

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
Mine's a '82 300D, see the signature line. ~ ~Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83 ~240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight. ~ ~Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing ~tonight. ~ ~Is this r

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread LT Don
And I paid $50 for my VW diesel and will probably curl up with a good book tonight, unless my parts from Rusty arrive today, in which case I will be installing a new brake master cylinder. On 2/10/06, Dave Wakin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Luther Gulseth wrote: I thought so, all I saw last night was oozing from the lines. The injection pump is a positive-displacement pump. That means it pushes out a fixed amount of fuel, and the pressure will build to whatever it needs to to allow that amount to flow. The upshot is you only

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Dave Wakin
Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83 240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight. Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing tonight. Is this right? Dave W - Original Message - Fro

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
I can be such an ID10T sometimes, I'd done forgotten about the E-brake. ~ ~Luther, ~ ~If the brakes don't work fix them first or at least make sure the E-brake ~works. Then two start it. ~ ~Trampas ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E &

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: CIS injection (more effective mixture control than D-Jet) is good for at least 10% more hp and 15% better fuel milage on the same engine as a carb. Unless you have a fairly esoteric manifold system (hard to put under a hood), carbs provide pretty poor atomization, and su

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 02:03 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car has sat around for about 10 years. Where'd you get the idea from? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Question about rough idle on start up

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 02:33 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: ?? Why should I need to sign my questions? After all, I have an egocentric email address. Because it is polite and Marshall gets warm and fuzzy all over when you do. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Brian Chase wrote: You know, I gotta say that I have long wondered if I should be using one of these oil additives. They sound so great. (Like ProLong, Slick 50, and the like. There's one that I'm forgetting, the infomercial for which I just love - has me convinced ever time). I just wish I cou

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Trampas
Luther, If the brakes don't work fix them first or at least make sure the E-brake works. Then two start it. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread Sunil Hari
I think you'd get away with calling it an E-class if it's a 300D (preferably turbo) loaded with options - electric sliding roof, power windows and locks, ACC, and preferably leather. My 123 had all those things (-leather) and I called it the 1984 E-class. If it's a 240D with manual everything, it

Re: [MBZ] Question about rough idle on start up

2006-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
?? Why should I need to sign my questions? After all, I have an egocentric email address. On 2/10/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > Can a bad injector also cause extremely low idle speed (500 rpm) and >

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Trampas
Tow start it! Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my ow

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread LT Don
Huh? Did I miss the memo on this? On 2/10/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight > > Luther > > -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like diesel can. I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight and have to work tomorrow. Luther ~ ~Luther Gulseth wrote: ~

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Hendrik Riessen wrote: Will I get away with saying to people that I drive a Mercedes Benz E class when referring to the 123? Oooh the snobbery. When I had a diesel Vanagon camper, I used to jokingly call it a "13 foot diesel pusher." You probably have to be an RVer to get that one, though.

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Einspritzer. "i" on BMWs meant the same thing once upon a time. I think I've seen old Italian cars (Alfas, maybe?) with an "Inietzione" badge. Funny to think of fuel injection being an exotic, high-performance feature worthy of special designation when there are few

Re: [MBZ] passing Landwind

2006-02-10 Thread David Brodbeck
Alex Chamberlain wrote: To me it's the answer to people who repeat the canard that China will control the world economically in our lifetimes! A command economy driven by stamping out crude potmetal copies of Western technology is a joke, not a threat. The thing is, the first Japanese cars wer

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:10:58 -0500 John Ervine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther Gulseth wrote: > > For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car > > has sat around for about 10 years. > > I don't see how ATF will increase compression, though. Why not just put > straig

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my own. I paid good money for this car ($150) with a nearly perfect interior and not a touch of rust on the paint. It only has 75kmi on the ticker. The salvage yard I got it from said it had a hole in the block. I have yet to find o

Re: [MBZ] Question about rough idle on start up

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:14 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Can a bad injector also cause extremely low idle speed (500 rpm) and stalling at startup? With a warm engine idle is a normal 650 rpm (1983 300TD) Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) Johnn

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Ervine
Luther Gulseth wrote: For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car has sat around for about 10 years. I don't see how ATF will increase compression, though. Why not just put straight diesel in the spin-on filter? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300T

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Ervine
Luther Gulseth wrote: I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years? Mercedes has no specs for cold compression checks. They can be useful for diagnosing problems, but there are no hard and fast rules

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years? ~ ~ ~On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ ~> Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs? ~> ~ ~ I d

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car has sat around for about 10 years. ~ ~ ~On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: ~ ~> I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on with ATF. ~> ~ ~ Why ATF? ~ ~Johnny B. ~I Mac Therefore I

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 01:46 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: Maybe he wants to grease up the cylinders a little. And if its an old diesel, how much harm can that really do? He'll be getting straight ATF to the injectors. Not quite sure he understands what and why he's doing some of this s

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote: Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs? I don't see how it would hurt the GPs and the starter will probably love it but consider isolating the rest of your electrical system lest you fry expensive

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Sunil Hari
Maybe he wants to grease up the cylinders a little. And if its an old diesel, how much harm can that really do? On 2/10/06, John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: > > > I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on wit

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on with ATF. Why ATF? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote: I thought so, all I saw last night was oozing from the lines. Maybe this car has an injection problem, and that's why it seems to fire only once every few seconds when it's trying to start. If you're referring to the retu

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
Sure, much easier to tow start if you have a tow dolly or known good brakes.. ~ ~When I put 24V on the starter what I do is disconnect the starter pos ~battery terminal from rest of system. Then place second battery between ~original and starter cable. Thus the main electrical system, glow pl

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Trampas
When I put 24V on the starter what I do is disconnect the starter pos battery terminal from rest of system. Then place second battery between original and starter cable. Thus the main electrical system, glow plugs etc are still 12V and the starter is the only 24V thing. Again it is much much easi

Re: [MBZ] Well the POOS 250 LWB is gone

2006-02-10 Thread V Layton
Bummer. Vince From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Well the POOS 250 LWB is gone Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:09:04 -0600 Took a ride ov

Re: [MBZ] 240D for sale in Missouri

2006-02-10 Thread V Layton
Where in MO? I may have a prospect or two... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vince From: "Brian Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] 240D for sale in Missouri Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:05:16 -0600 I

Re: [MBZ] 240 d

2006-02-10 Thread V Layton
Sure, for a price. Get all the body and interior you can, and don't worry too much about the mechanical, all can be serviced. Good Luck Vince From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 2

Re: [MBZ] Question about rough idle on start up

2006-02-10 Thread Marshall Booth
andrew strasfogel wrote: Marshall, Can a bad injector also cause extremely low idle speed (500 rpm) and stalling at startup? With a warm engine idle is a normal 650 rpm (1983 300TD) Well, if each injector/cylinder supply 1/5th of the power to turn the engine, you might expect the speed to dr

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs? Two batteries in series MIGHT easily burn up a few glow plugs or at least fry the glow plug fuse, but I've never tried it. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned question

Re: [MBZ] Crazy price for Aussie muscle car

2006-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
I drove a RHD Holden in Fiji back in 1970. Most of them had the column stick manual transmission that you shifted with your LEFT hand. Nice cars with engines that hummed like sewing machines. On 2/10/06, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2/10/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: How far should the IP squirt fuel out of a cracked injector line? The quantity of fuel ejected from the injection line with each cycle of the injection pump is TINY. If you agree that the engine consumes maybe a liter an hour at idle. In an hour there are maybe 72,000 in

Re: [MBZ] Four barrel enthusiast

2006-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Yeah, and my CIS 450 SLC got 12-15 mpg tops! On 2/9/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One would think so, but why did I get in the 20's mpg in the 283 > (4640cc) '58 chevy with a four barrel, and only 15 mpg in the CIS > 450SLC (275ci)? Emission controls? > > Yes - the type III 2.0L VW bus

Re: [MBZ] Driver door groans upon opening

2006-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Replacing the door check is a very satisfying DIY job! The part is cheap, it's easy without being actually trivially so, and results in instant gratification if you don't f**k it up!! On 2/9/06, Werner Fehlauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Marshall in Feenix - the Mercedes door stop straps typi

Re: [MBZ] Question about rough idle on start up

2006-02-10 Thread andrew strasfogel
Marshall, Can a bad injector also cause extremely low idle speed (500 rpm) and stalling at startup? With a warm engine idle is a normal 650 rpm (1983 300TD) On 2/9/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Massmann wrote: > > I have an 87 190D 2.5 turbo with about 245K mile. Jus

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I could not disagree more. Report back after a few years and many thousand more miles. One car one ride is not scientific enough. Here are a couple of examples: I had a 54 Pontiac that used 23 qts of oil in 380 mi

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs? ~ ~I have seen more than one diesel sit and then not start. The only way to get ~them started was to pull start them or hook 24V to starter. The problem is ~the rings get stuck. Rings are funny things, the more compression on the

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Trampas
I have seen more than one diesel sit and then not start. The only way to get them started was to pull start them or hook 24V to starter. The problem is the rings get stuck. Rings are funny things, the more compression on the engine the better they seal. Thus you have to raise compression to get fre

Re: [MBZ] Oil filter leak

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 08:32 PM, Brian Chase wrote: Good info. By gear wrench, you are referring to a ratchet, as in socket wrench? May sound like a simple question, but just making sure you aren't talking about a flat wrench (as in box end/open end) with a ratchet mechanism. By th

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
'82 300D (Blue Bomber). I poured some Marvel Mystery oil into each cylinder last evening and then turned the engine over by hand. Each cylinder shot the oil out like a gyser. I had the injector lines loose, I guess. They were finger tight, then loosened 1/4-1/2 turn. I'll try "cracking" the

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread Christopher McCann
comes up SHORT - LOL - correction well taken - did not know that. Yes, my Walther PPK/S shoots 9mmKurz (aka .380 ACP vs 9mm luger/parabellum) - which is interesting becuase there is apparently a wide spread misconception that the K in PPK is Kurz, which makes sense as it is smaller than t

Re: [MBZ] Glow plug question for the experts

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 08:27 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Bosch 0 250 201 001 is what fits in most of the diesels with small pencil type glow plugs. It has a 5 digit application number of 80006. Bosch 0 250 201 039 also carries the 80006 designation. Can anyone tell me what is the d

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Loren Faeth
If you see oozing, my guess is that the pump is ok. if the caps are loose, you see fuel ooze. if the caps are "cracked" just right, you will get high pressure spurts. about 1/16 turn to 1/8 turn is cracking the line. it is more likely that you have low compression/stuck rings or bad glow pl

Re: [MBZ] 4 QTS!? Was New Lubro Moly product

2006-02-10 Thread Gary Hurst
you remember why i stopped the autotrader stuff? they accused me of spamming the list! i'm amazed at how succesfull those maniacs have been On 2/9/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > maybe we should come full circle and I should kick you off this list for > bringing up such a c

Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update

2006-02-10 Thread Luther Gulseth
I'm pretty sure the pump has prime. Each time I've tried to start it, I pull the fuel lines and run them from a bottle of fresh diesel (just like running a purge). I pump the primer pump until strong shots of diesel shoot out of the return line. I had the injectors out this weekend and reinst

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Rusty Cullens
I could not disagree more. Here's a good rule of thumb concerning oil additives: Don't pour anything but motor oil into your crankcase. Excessive oil consumption (not leaking) indicates the need for engine work. Nothing that comes in a can or bottle will restore yo

Re: [MBZ] Oil, oil, which oil!?

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 08:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I have never seen a suburban with 4:10 gears. That is usually for 1 ton trucks. Even with the taller gears you are not going to be able to safely pull 10K lbs with a burb. I would check the codes and see if that rear end i

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread John Berryman
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 07:56 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Lubro-Moly has a website, the Motor Oil Saver seems alot like Auto Rx to me. I'm considering one or the other come springtime in the 190D (and the 240D for that matter but that won't be my car by then) if nothing else for a psy

Re: [MBZ] New Lubro Moly product

2006-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Even more like autorx. In this case I suspect your oil consumption went down because of the rise in viscosity... -Curt Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:46:23 -0500 From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Lubro Moly product To: "'Harry Watkins'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I probably shouldn't write that sort of thing first thing in the morning. I went to 2 Wal-Marts yesterday looking for Mobil 1, it had an effect on me... -Curt Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:46:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Kevin J. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

Re: [MBZ] letter designations

2006-02-10 Thread George Gregory
POT-KETTLE-BLACK One Thing you are an expert in is Morons ___ -Original Message- From: On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:21 AM well M stands for moron, that much I know.

Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver

2006-02-10 Thread Rusty Cullens
Yes, I have it in stock now. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Motor Oil Saver Rusty, are you gonna sell the stuff? On Thu, 09 Feb 200

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