It seems than at Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:12:27 -0400, Rolf wrote:
I was under the assumption that they coasted in neutral at
idle. Never knew about the fuel injectors shutting off all
together.
The M117 in my '72 280SE W108 did that. I don't recale l the
Bosch name, but it was electronic,
It seems than at Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:41:05 -0400, Rich wrote:
Drag = 1/2 Cd rho V^^2
Drag (air resistance) is one half of the coefficient of drag
times density of air (or whatever fluid you are in) times the
velocity squared
--R
I should have been more careful with my terms...
But you
'Looks like we made it through Hanna reasonably well. Heaviest wind and
rain 'bout 6:30 this morning. Worst part of it came right across here.
Lotsa small limbs and leaves in the yard. Large limb on neighbors elec.
service drop across the street, but even he still has power.
Wilton
Goldsboro,
Chuck, et al
I wondered if any one else thought that Mrs Palin had any brains
/talent/virtues other than body urge. Do they make these types of
comments about Einstein/Bohr/Fermi? I think not!
Fred Moir
Being horribly PC this morning
At 01:25 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
Hi..
Just wondering if
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/827585950.html
What do you suppose a $595 car could need that the dealer would put in for $700
that would make sense to mention in a Craigslist listing?
-Curt
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Frederick W Moir wrote:
Chuck, et al
I wondered if any one else thought that Mrs Palin had any brains
/talent/virtues other than body urge. Do they make these types of
comments about Einstein/Bohr/Fermi? I think not!
She's a politician, not one of the greatest science minds of her time.
Only $275 in parts for a complete restoration!
Wilton
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Subject: [MBZ] What do you suppose?
Curt Raymond wrote:
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/827585950.html
What do you suppose a $595 car could need that the dealer would put in for
$700 that would make sense to mention in a Craigslist listing?
Front suspension rubbers and ball joints?
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-Curt
An Heavy coating of Bulls**t?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 9:03 AM
At 09:52 AM
Mitch, Rolf.
Mrs Palin may (or may not) be the one of the greatest science
minds, (my personal heros).
The question in my mind is will she be evaluated by the electorate on
merit or cuteness? I never thought that JFK made a good, or even
decent, Prez. Heresy in this part of the world. It was a
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/827585950.html
What do you suppose a $595 car could need that the dealer would put in for
$700 that would make sense to mention in a Craigslist listing?
Sway bar?
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
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The soft top of Daughter's 380SL is coming loose from the frame
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on the frame also, or is there a different adhesive for that?
Loren Faeth
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See, you are a girlie-mon. Some of us need those lycra shorts with the
strategic padding to protect our, um, assets, lest we get irritated and
testy.
--R
who appreciates the support you provide
Oh, BTW, when our boy Lance won the TdF those many times, you know what
the best part of it was?
$700 is about what a complete dealer service costs these days.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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Saturday morning fun
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x12565_beatbox-fame-game
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An example of a fighter pilot's recklessness with the nation's welfare
(well-being).
Wilton
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I stayed up late and took the dog out for walkies, was raining a bit but
no wind to speak of. Bright sunny morning, no branches or anything down
which was surprising. Brunnhilde has dirt splashed up to her waist,
might have to get the hose after that later.
I think I'll leave most of the
Refresh my memory on the experience of Arkansas Governor William BJ
Clinton when he ran for and was elected president. He was the greatest
president ever in recent times if you read the mainstream media, even
though he smoked dope without inhaling, did not go in the military, and
had some
$700 is about what a complete dealer service costs these days.
From the response the guy sent me.
HELLO RICK,
tHE CAR NEEDS A RADIATOR SUPPORT, A BRACKET WELDED, FRONT QUARTER REINSTALLED,
A BRAKE LINE AND A BATTERY.
ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION CONTACT HAROLD AT : JUST MERCEDES
IN
Todays project was to be the timing chain for the M104. I am stumped
already. I sure like M180 engines for simplicity, except for the
carbs. With the center cover off, I see three coils, three valve
cover bolts and 3 orange/red plastic hex pillars with about a 1 1/4
mushroom hex head on
Now Wilton, you know he was only a light bomber pilot!
Almost the same thing, though.
I smell Karl Rove here.
Peter
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Wilton Strickland wrote:
An example of a fighter pilot's recklessness with the nation's welfare
(well-being).
Wilton
Good, I was worried that Hanna would crank up and really make a mess.
Ike is more of a worry -- at the moment, the projected path is aimed
straight at New Orleans again
Peter
On Sep 6, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
I stayed up late and took the dog out for walkies, was raining a
Ike is now heading for Cuba. I hope it takes its havoc out in cuba
then fizzles out.
At 10:48 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
Good, I was worried that Hanna would crank up and really make a mess.
Ike is more of a worry -- at the moment, the projected path is aimed
straight at New Orleans again
I think the difference is that Bill got royally roasted by purchased
press coverage after the fact while we know diddly about Palin.
Funny what people remember when you pay them a couple hundred
thousand dollars per memory
Mayor of a small town doesn't mean that much, and it's more
I have some old keyboards with some CapsLock keys I can strip off and
send him. He must have loosed his or they braked.
--R
Rick Knoble wrote:
$700 is about what a complete dealer service costs these days.
From the response the guy sent me.
HELLO RICK,
tHE CAR NEEDS A RADIATOR
Curt-
This one's for you-welding. Sounds like a wreck on right front. Offer him
395-salvage guys will give him 350.
Dwight
Star Motors and Shellfish Co.
Shucking but no Jiving
Dwight Giles, Jr
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI 02852
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The soft top of Daughter's 380SL is coming loose from the frame
around the back side. Is the 8090 stuff correct to glue the soft top
on the frame also, or is there a different adhesive for that?
It ought to work, but spray application in the area is a
bit dicey. I think the official stuff
I can get 26mpg on the highway @ 70. Suppose I might eke out 28 if I
could go 450 miles non-stop. Ain't going to happen, though. I CAN
routinely average 23+ in 70/30 mixed driving, though. All this with an
M104, that I've been told is more efficient than the older M103.
In short, if you can ever
yes, it looked like it was brushed on
At 11:10 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
The soft top of Daughter's 380SL is coming loose from the frame
around the back side. Is the 8090 stuff correct to glue the soft top
on the frame also, or is there a different adhesive for that?
It ought to work, but
I have not made mention of her physical attributes, but those of her
barracuda like tenacity in dealing with issues close to her. I have
noticed that most women's wear is meant to attract attention from male
and female alike. There are a number of womyn who chose to divorce
themselves
BJ was an unmitigated disaster as a world leader and commander in
chief. A roadkill skunk would have done a much better task and
smelled sweeter.
clay
On 6 Sep 2008, at 08:40, Rich Thomas wrote:
Refresh my memory on the experience of Arkansas Governor William BJ
Clinton when he ran for
Loren, et alii.
M104, twin-cam intake gear driven by exh cam, 4 valves per, plug
vertical over center-ish of each cyl. from a quick peek at manual.
One NEEDS a GOOD manual to work on strange engines. RTFM.
Tip o'the hat to Herr Dr. Professor Marshall.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
At 11:37 AM 9/6/2008, you
One plug under each coil, with an additional plug next to each coil.
Been to long to remember much else.
Gary Thompson
1995 E320
On 9/6/08, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Todays project was to be the timing chain for the M104. I am stumped
already. I sure like M180 engines for
some How about lots of!
Along with a wake of dead bodies?
At 10:40 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
some zipper issues.
Loren Faeth
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The resounding success we had in Somalia. Far more embarrassing than
iraq and did more to weaken the perception of the US in the world.
clay
On 6 Sep 2008, at 08:41, Loren Faeth wrote:
some How about lots of!
Along with a wake of dead bodies?
At 10:40 AM 9/6/2008, you wrote:
some
On my buddy's 450SL the fabric trim was coming off around the tonneau
cover, I used a bit of water-based contact cement from a can, brushed it
on, let it dry for a few minutes, then stuck the fabric back to the
metal. Held well.
Of course there is always ShoeGoo.
--R
Loren Faeth wrote:
I see that last night on Conan both he and his guest Tim Gunn, of all
people, acknowledged that she was attractive. I also heard that she
was runner up Ms. Alaska?
She could stand to lose a bit of junk from the trunk, but still.
Also heard someone on TV mention a thought I had
previously about
multiculturalism, y'know, it's like peanut dust. way overblown!
here is all you need to know
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwVVa36q7C4feature=related
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Frederick W Moir wrote:
I never thought that JFK made a good, or even
decent, Prez.
But he delivered beautiful speeches, isn't that enough?
Millions of Obama fans seem to think so.
On that subject, I caught a piece of a McLame speech last week.
Beautifully scripted words, but the voice is
Peter Frederick wrote:
Should be fun to see what crawls out of the shadows -- so far I've
learned she attends two far right leaning non-denominational churches
that preach the endless Holy War on the Devil, NOT a good sign for
me.
Gee, that doesn't sound slanted at all. ;-)
Mitch.
...The M117 in my '72 280SE W108 did that. I don't recale l the Bosch name,
but it was electronic, multi-port, sequential injection. At one point I was
having trouble with mine so I
rigged a set of LEDs to fire at the same time as the injectors. With the
throttle closed and the
What do you suppose a $595 car could need that the dealer would put in for
$700 that would make sense to mention in a Craigslist listing?
Wrecking yard engine?
Front clip?
OE windshield?
RLE
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plus the latest
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Same as my '73 450SE, back in the days when it's abysmal fuel economy didn't
matter so much.
Saab went from D-Jetronic (electronic pulsed injection) to K-Jetronic
(mechanical continuous injection) for the 1975 model year. I assume Mercedes
was
D-Jetronic in the
That basketball one cooled down my fantasy a bit. Not the most flattering.
Brian
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:33 PM, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
If you're looking for leg-shots of Palin, I think this should satisfy ya,
although it's from 1982:
And what was with the playing of the Heart song Barracuda at the Rep.
convention? Actually all this playing of inspirational rock tunes at
conventions seems cheesy to me.
Brian
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Frederick W Moir wrote:
I never thought that
Zoltan Finks wrote:
And what was with the playing of the Heart song Barracuda at the Rep.
convention? Actually all this playing of inspirational rock tunes at
conventions seems cheesy to me.
And the song is not complimentary.
Example:
You lying so low in the weeds
I bet you gonna ambush me
Brian,
You are correct!
Take care,
Chuck
On Sep 6, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Zoltan Finks wrote:
And what was with the playing of the Heart song Barracuda at the Rep.
convention? Actually all this playing of inspirational rock tunes at
conventions seems cheesy to me.
And the
Heart has served a cease deist order of further use of their material in
this manner (Republican). Think I saw that on CNN website but might have
been Washington Post.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
And what was with the playing of the Heart song Barracuda
And not Tina Fey?
http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/video/070730/tina_fey2.jpg
http://www.gov.state.ak.us/photos/Gov-Palin-2006_web.jpg
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Also, you know who would do an excellent impression of her? Anna
Gasteyer formerly
They'll probably let Obama use Dreamboat Annie though, Little ship of
dreams Heading out to somewhere won't be back for a while.
More appropriate.
One of the Wilson sisters is half hot too, the other one is not
height/weight proportional.
--R
Wonko the Sane wrote:
Heart has served a
Of course there is always ShoeGoo.
No, I wouldn't do that. Too tenacious, not flexible enough.
-- Jim
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Actually yeah, Fey would.
But I really think Gasteyer would be perfect for it. I bet SNL will
have Fey do it, (does she do things like that? Or is she above it
now?). But a guest appearance from Gasteyer would be choice.
Anyway, I dont think Palen will still be in the news much beyond
November,
I have the original plunger-type primer pump on my new 1983 300TD, and it's
leaking fuel so must be replaced. Can't figure out how to remove it. The
Bosch replacement pump has an embedded hex nut in the screw threads so
installation won't be a problem. I don't see any obvious way to remove the
Hey guys, some of us believe the people should work for the Government and
others believe the Government should work for the people. We are not likely
to change each other's minds so why don't we try to talk more about cars or
MBCA or something where we have a common interest.
So I pose a
The two I replaced both had a hex at the bottom near the threads. I used a
crows-foot wrench on an extension with a ratchet. But I heard someone
(maybe the Mercedessource guy) mention the vice grip approach ... so maybe
some came without the hex?
Scott Ritchey
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From:
You're replacing it. Clamp a medium sized pair of vice grips around the
body of the pump (tight!) and loosen it up. Throw it away and install
the new one with a stubby 17mm.
Luther, 4 time primer pump RR veteran
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I have the original plunger-type primer pump on my new
I had ridden back after college in my friend's dad's Benz sedan. It was
a gasser, must have been a 280E? Anyway a 123 now that I know what that
is. My friend got to drive it one night when we went out to do
whatever, and I remember him saying, Watch this. (He did not say,
Ho' mah beer and
You're trying to avoid politics by talking about MBCA?
Haven't been a member (yet) but from what I hear and have observed, it is
overwhelmingly affluent (Republican) and has its own share of internal
philosophical disagreements and downright turf battles.
I don't think you are going to see too
Brother-in-law slapped a pair of expensive Snap-On pliers onto the old one,
grunted, quickly twisted his wrist, removed the old one, and installed the
new one.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:38 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I have the original plunger-type primer pump on my new 1983
Thanks, all, for slapping me with some common sense. I'll get the
head job.
Dan
P.S. Anybody have that door handle, visor clips and license plate
valance for a 88 300TE?
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A final reminder-the annual New England MB chowdah fest will be held next
Saturday September 13 at Goddard State Park in Warwick RI. If you have not
let us know that you will be attending, please do so in the next couple
days. . For those of you who have said you will or might attend, we will
Wish I could attend. Have fun.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
A final reminder-the annual New England MB chowdah fest will be held next
Saturday September 13 at Goddard State Park in Warwick RI. If you have not
let us know that you will be
Me, too.
Wilton
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Wish I could attend. Have fun.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 7:59 PM,
To be fair we have to consider what Billy would have done post 9/11, the
only thing we can go on really is the Somalia(?) affair (you know Black
Hawk down), where if memory serves me right Billy the kid pulled the
plug once he saw that the thing could turn into a killing zone for GI's.
From my
Hendrik Fay wrote:
As a side note, last election over here the local Labor candidate was a
pretty lady with absolutely no political experience and only famous
because she married a local footy legend
I'm reading this and imagining Victoria Beckham running for parliament.
She couldn't muck
She looks like she has experience doing well at the pole.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
As a side note, last election over here the local Labor candidate was a
pretty lady with absolutely no political experience and only famous
because she married a
D-Jetronic.
And indeed, the injectors do not fire during coast. I get 14-16 mpg
when it's running well, but if you like to drive hard and fast, it
will drop to 12 or so, even on the highway. Needless to say, I've
not driven the 280 in a while
Premium only, it runs like poo on
...Saab went from D-Jetronic (electronic pulsed injection) to K-Jetronic
(mechanical continuous injection) for the 1975 model year. I assume Mercedes
was D-Jetronic in the early 1970's too...
And Porsche used CIS in the 911 from 1973.5 to 1983 and Motronic from 1984 to
2008. The 914 was
I'm resisting the Banned comment that's in there.
Luther
Wonko the Sane wrote:
She looks like she has experience doing well at the pole.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
As a side note, last election over here the local Labor candidate was a
There is a nut on the bottom of that one, too. Use a crow-foot. The
nut is below the plunger chamber if I remember correctly.
Peter
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Hah Hah Hah, now that is funny. If it wasn't for that movie, no one
would even remember the Somalia affair.
Now everyone remembers Dubbya flying onto that Carrier off the US coast
and declaring mission accomplished, guess if the mission was to kick
down the door then he was right.
Anyway I
No, the new ones are butt ugly, no way to see out of them, and
the doors close like a bad Chrysler made on Monday.
Will never own one.
I bought mine because they are the safest cars around (probably no
longer true of the new ones, either) and their reputation for
longevity. I proved
One has to use the English language to best advantage.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm resisting the Banned comment that's in there.
Luther
Wonko the Sane wrote:
She looks like she has experience doing well at the pole.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at
Yea but can Vicky write?
Hendrik
who can sort of write
Mitch Haley wrote:
Hendrik Fay wrote:
As a side note, last election over here the local Labor candidate was a
pretty lady with absolutely no political experience and only famous
because she married a local footy legend
Yup, early M110 D-jet engines where real rockets. I know that the 114
used D and the 123 used K, not sure about the 116's but 76 or 77 was the
change over year/s.
Now enough of this car drivel back to politics.
Hendrik
with K and KE
Mitch Haley wrote:
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Same as my
The rebuilt injectors arrived from Rusty Yesterday evening --
installed them this afternoon. (FYI - they come with new seal rings).
When we pulled the old injectors out, one of the seal rings had the
center section almost punched out, and we've seen this everytime we've
pulled injectors out. Very
As for Mac's making her his RSO: The danger of his recklessness is that it
is possible she could become the GIF (Guy in Front - driver) even before
takeoff or on climb out/departure.
Wilton
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There is a touch and go joke in here somewhere.
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for Mac's making her his RSO: The danger of his recklessness is that it
is possible she could become the GIF (Guy in Front - driver) even before
takeoff or on climb
Yeah, it's a joke, alright; 'just hope it's not on US.
BTW, I've also called him impetuous - the NY Times article would be
excellent reading for the list, too.
Wilton
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/opinion/07rich.html?hp
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Yeah, it's a joke, alright; 'just hope it's not on US.
BTW, I've also called him impetuous - the NY Times article would be
excellent reading for the list, too.
Thanks.
Wilton
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/opinion/07rich.html?hp
On Sat, Sep 6,
So, she can give a good speech, i. e., she can read a teleprompter with
feeling and passion. Well, guess what? So can I and many others.
Wilton
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Yes but do you have a pregnant 17 year old daughter? Are you anti sex
education?
But most important of all do you look like Mrs America or at least how
Mrs America should look if the marketing gurus have their way, as
opposed to Flabby Sue from the trailer park?
Guess by the time it all done
I'm MUCH more interested in what she says and does, and how she says
it and does it, off script under stress.
Failure under load ain't an option for President.
Peter
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I drove my wife down to Ikea today to get eat swedish meatballs and
buy a bookshelf. The bookshelf fit in the back of the 740 turbo wagon
pretty well
Unfortunaely, I did in fact forget to bring a hat, and it was 103
degrees and very sunny today.
Sincerely,
Tyler William H Backman
1987
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