Re: [MBZ] 201 index

2008-09-25 Thread Max Dillon
Jim, http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d/Main.html I give up! How am I supposed to use it? I realize I need to have the CD, but then what? -- Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon '87 300TD, 310k miles Charleston SC Digest lurker (on and off) since 2001

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I'll also add, that for reasons I can't explain, our LG front-loading washer seems to discharge less lint than the old Amana top-loader it replaced. I believe that front loaders don't beat up the clothes as much as a top loader. Less wear means less wear material in the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Douglas
The new ones have a system that balances the load with either liquid or balls around the drum. As for soap we all used too much in our wash. Douglas - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I need to get a front loader one of these days. My 10 year old top loading maytag really chews things up sometimes. If you put a big blanket in it, it will chew up a corner. Sometimes it will even chew up other things such as towels and other things. Mitch Haley wrote: Allan Streib wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper

2008-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond
Much as I like the VW diesel I don't think your car will make 500,000 without a rebuild. I did some research back a couple months ago and it appears that many VW diesels get rebuilt at ~250,000 and many more (most?) by 400,000. That said a short block for one is about the same price as a

Re: [MBZ] 201 index

2008-09-25 Thread Jim Cathey
http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d/Main.html I give up! How am I supposed to use it? I realize I need to have the CD, but then what? Depends on your system, and there's several possible ways. I use a Mac (Linux would be the same) and made a link to where the PDF's live: cd

[MBZ] Signal booster

2008-09-25 Thread Bill R
Do any of you have any use for a 802.11b wireless signal booster? I got it without paying attention [actually I didn't know then] that the 'b' would not work with my wireless G. They work down the improvement ladder [n receives g and b, g receives b, but b will not be stable for boosting g or n

[MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Sign above #2 pump day before yesterday said, Diesel $4.299. Yesterday, it said, $4.149 with pump shut down - empty. Today, it says, $4.099 and still shut down - WTF? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Saggy rear end

2008-09-25 Thread Rolf
I don't see lowering the rear diff would have gotten around this tab. -Rolf Loren Faeth wrote: See what Kaleb wrote. If there is a problem getting the springs out with just the shocks loose, then you can cut loose the diff, and the springs will drop out. Kleb should know what it takes to

Re: [MBZ] no gas in georgia

2008-09-25 Thread Rolf
The undeniable issue with using corn is that it raises the cost of everything else. So instead of just giving them tax breaks and farm subsidies, we also have to pay more across the board for everything from milk to cereal to batteries to soap. Sugar cane and soy are no different. It doesn't

Re: [MBZ] Saggy rear end

2008-09-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't see lowering the rear diff would have gotten around this tab. IIRC, you lower the diff _and_ the subframe too. It all comes down, relieving the springs somehow. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Douglas wrote: As for soap we all used too much in our wash. Good point. The owner of my local appliance store says: Use half as much as the washer manufacturer recommends. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Gary Hurst
gotta drive up here. no one is out of diesel. everyone is out of gasoline On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Sign above #2 pump day before yesterday said, Diesel $4.299. Yesterday, it said, $4.149 with pump shut down - empty. Today, it says, $4.099

Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: That said I'd like to find one around here in good condition. What about your Quantum? I thought you flew out to Iowa last month and drove it home? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm still in awe of LGs rise. back in the goldstar days, they were the dead bottom of the barrel and now they are held in high esteem the world over. On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have LG front loaders (2years now), SWMBO

Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper

2008-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and spending the night with a friend in Chicago) with a car that

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Wilton Strickland wrote: Sign above #2 pump day before yesterday said, Diesel $4.299. Yesterday, it said, $4.149 with pump shut down - empty. Today, it says, $4.099 and still shut down - WTF? Monday I pulled into a station with the huge LED sign reading $3.789 for regular unleaded and

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Bill R
Hey Wilton - come on down. When I don't have it I sell it for $2.50 a gal. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 10:21 AM To: mercedes Subject: [MBZ] Price of no #2 Sign above #2 pump

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a lint filter on my washer drain, since we're on a septic system and everything (black and grey) goes into it. Got it here: http://www.laundry-alternative.com/products/Septic_Protector.html Yikes, I didn't know

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
An appliance repairman told me to ONLY use a liquid detergent and (like Mitch wrote) use 1/2 what it says on the bottle. The powder stuff does not all dissolve and attaches itself to the outside tub. Chuck On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Douglas wrote: As for soap we all

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An appliance repairman told me to ONLY use a liquid detergent and (like Mitch wrote) use 1/2 what it says on the bottle. The powder stuff does not all dissolve and attaches itself to the outside tub. Was this a

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 34, Issue 141

2008-09-25 Thread Dan Weeks
As the former owner of 2 VWDs, your research corresponds with my experience. My 92 Jetta cracked a head at 100k, nursed it along to 140k before it needed a rebuilt head. Bottom end was still good, but the few VWDs that I heard of on various lists that did make 400 or 450k had so much

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Alex, It was a top-loader.. Haven't needed to spend any money on a front-loader Bought last top-loader from Craigslist for $100 four years ago and it's still working. This topic reminds me - back in the early 1940's we had a Bendix front-loader washer and hung the wash in the

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I agree that the price for the filter system is ridiculous. Got to be a way to rig up something homebrew out of PVC that would work just as well. Maybe take a tip from the biodiesel crowd for filter material? If the lint is in quantities sufficient to clog a

Re: [MBZ] 201 index

2008-09-25 Thread Tyler Backman
Just look where the link is pointing from the index, and make sure that the appropriately named files are in that folder. You'll need to copy the files off your CD and onto your hard drive. The links in the index point to files like ../../../w201CD1/PDF/90001a.pdf so it's necessary to have

[MBZ] Even worse than I'd guessed

2008-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond
I bought an aircompressor at Harborfreight when I was there a couple weeks ago. Pulled it out Monday to realize it had no oil with it. Bought some oil and yesterday started to fill it up. Noticed a little drip from the sight glass, touched it to be sure thats where it was coming from and the

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Friend at lunch said his no fuel price is $0.99. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2 Hey Wilton - come on down. When I don't have

Re: [MBZ] Bearing question - W123 300 turbo

2008-09-25 Thread LarryT
Thx Andrew, Did you get thru Winchester by any chance? In late Summer the smell of fresh apples is overwhelmingly pleasant! We spent some time in Elkton/Harrisburg area and there's so much history there it's hard to see it all in a couple of weeks! Oh well, always good to save some for next

[MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]

2008-09-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part Url: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080925/de915539/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Saggy rear end

2008-09-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You just unbolt the shock and the control arm (2 bolts) and it comes right out. Jim Cathey wrote: I don't see lowering the rear diff would have gotten around this tab. IIRC, you lower the diff _and_ the subframe too. It all comes down, relieving the springs somehow. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper

2008-09-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
so other than that how big a POS is it? Curt Raymond wrote: I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at the time none of the doors locked... Its tough to think about driving 1400 miles in a car (and

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Bill R
I'll at least match his price, but I suppose the travel, and the fact that the price goes up dramatically should I happen to have some, makes his deal better. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wilton Strickland Sent: Thursday,

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]

2008-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00. Nope. It's $425 each, not $425k. The feds did spend close to 1/2 mil per household in New Orleans after Katrina, when it would have been better to give everybody $100k to help with their

Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Yep. Wilton - Original Message - From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Price of no #2 I'll at least match his price, but I suppose the travel, and the fact that the price goes

Re: [MBZ] Even worse than I'd guessed

2008-09-25 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:58 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought an aircompressor at Harborfreight when I was there a couple weeks ago. Pulled it out Monday to realize it had no oil with it. Bought some oil and yesterday started to fill it up. Noticed a little drip from the

[MBZ] 190D AC

2008-09-25 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well, the AC saga continues. I had to have the manifold hoses rebuilt, installed them yesterday. Pulled a vacuum for 2 hours, then let it it sit all night and day till this evening, still holding vacuum at same level. Put a little 134 in it, sniffer did not see any leaks. Fully charged and

[MBZ] Daimler discusses sale of Chrysler stake/no lint content

2008-09-25 Thread RELNGSON
GERMANY: Daimler discusses sale of Chrysler stake Daimler has confirmed that it is in talks with Cerberus to sell its 19.9% stake in former partner Chrysler. In a short official statement the company said: 'Daimler confirms that the company is in discussions with Cerberus Capital Management

[MBZ] TRAINEES IN THE TOWER IN AIRLINER SWERVE TRAINEES IN THE TOWER IN AIRLINER SWERVE

2008-09-25 Thread RELNGSON
An incident that thankfully ended with some fairly rattled pilots and passengers but no more than a little lost tire rubber begs the question of who is training whom at some of the nation's air traffic control towers. The National Air Traffic Controllers Union says two trainee controllers were

Re: [MBZ] 190D AC

2008-09-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I also noticed that after a while of running, the heater valve opens back up unless you have the dial all the way to min. Anybody know anything about these 201 climate controls? Wonder if its a sensor somewhere or the control unit. I also dont seem to get much air out of the side vents but

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Allan Streib
Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An appliance repairman told me to ONLY use a liquid detergent and (like Mitch wrote) use 1/2 what it says on the bottle. The powder stuff does not all dissolve and attaches itself to the outside tub. I think this was true at one time but today's

Re: [MBZ] OT: Laundry appliances

2008-09-25 Thread Douglas
As for the differences between top load and front. The major differences are that they use less water.. somewhere around 15 gal to 35 gal, and they are easier on the clothes. Doesn't wear them out in the washer. Douglas - Original Message - From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] air suspension.W109

2008-09-25 Thread Mak
Thanks Peter .Seems a min of around 3 thousand for starters to get it operational. mak. around three thousand for all the mentioned items . - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September

Re: [MBZ] 408 Camper

2008-09-25 Thread OK Don
Why would you bother to lock the doors on a car like that? Who's going to bother it? On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered how long it would take to someone to ask. I didna buy it. Its a $1500 car but not a $1501 car... Don hadn't mentioned that at

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]

2008-09-25 Thread OK Don
Like Mitch said - someone didn't pay attention in math class --- it's only $425 each --- On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a *We Deserve It Dividend*. To make the math simple, let's assume

Re: [MBZ] air suspension.W109

2008-09-25 Thread LWB250
Bags aren't bad from Rusty. As long as the car isn't a rustbucket they're fairly easy to swap out. As for valves, well, you might be up the proverbial creek without a paddle. There are two series of valves, the early and late (I don't recall what the defining characteristics are - check the

[MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
I need big help. Gump has decided to eat my key. Stuck in the on position and will not turn or come out. What is the standard action to take to liberate it? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread harry watkins
Alex, I sure hope someone responds to this with suggestions. Everything I have tried was a PITA. Maybe take a tip from the biodiesel crowd for filter material? Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread Allan Streib
harry watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alex, I sure hope someone responds to this with suggestions. Everything I have tried was a PITA. Maybe take a tip from the biodiesel crowd for filter material? The laundry lint filter I posted is really just a small filter bag hanging in a plastic

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Stuck in ignition/master switch? Is it stuck in the #1 position or full ON position? If it's in #1 position, leave it there, remove the cylinder and install a new cylinder - usually takes a minute or so. Immediately order a new cylinder from dealer via Rusty (need VIN). If it's not in #1

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
Stuck in full on. What sort of key attaches to the sander? clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:15 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Stuck in ignition/master switch? Is it stuck in the #1 position or full ON position? If it's in #1 position, leave it there, remove the cylinder and install a new

Re: [MBZ] air suspension.W109

2008-09-25 Thread Loren Faeth
And a properly operating Air suspension is an amazing ride. A 300SE/SEL is worth the price of keeping up the suspension. At 09:42 PM 9/25/2008, you wrote: Bags aren't bad from Rusty. As long as the car isn't a rustbucket they're fairly easy to swap out. As for valves, well, you might be up

Re: [MBZ] OT was what about you, now Washer Lint

2008-09-25 Thread harry watkins
Allan, I would like one large enough to make it a monthly service. After I use the one I ordered for awhile I'll know more. Might even put two in series. Harry The laundry lint filter I posted is really just a small filter bag hanging in a plastic canister. NOTHING high-tech about it AT

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Oh, I meant attach a sander to the stuck key to vibrate it to help turn the cylinder. Wilton - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trapped key Stuck in

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
BTW, there's a small slot in the face of the cylinder just to the left and above the top of the key slot. In #1 position, this small slot aligns with another slot in the cylinder case to allow insertion of a wire to release a lock that holds the cylinder in place. Can you insert a wire an inch

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Is it stuck in STARTING position or ON-and-running position? Wilton - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trapped key Stuck in full on. What sort of key

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Uh -oh, 'just noticed Gump is a '72; 'don't know if it's like the 123's, 124's, 126's I'm familiar with. Does it have the slot for a wire release I mentioned? I know 123's have it - when did that start, '76? Wilton - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
AH Yep, can do that. How vigorous should the vibration be? I have a clapped out sander that does a gentle shake, and a newer orbital that will really work it. clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:34 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Oh, I meant attach a sander to the stuck key to vibrate it to

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
Not able to get the ring off from around the cylinder to access the lock mechanism. Been trying to figure out how to attack it and it is dark there anyway. Already replaced flashlights once. clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: BTW, there's a small slot in the face

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
It is in starting position, but with Gump that just allows juice to flow and the glow dongle has to be yanked to get it hot and then engage the starter. It is off and turns on and off just fine. Stuck in position 2.5. Gump is more of a binary system. Either it is on or off for the key

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Starting with W123 in '76, you have to insert wire in the release slot, then unscrew the ring to remove the cylinder. Can you insert wire an inch or so? Wilton ' - Original Message - From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday,

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
I think it was with the 617 engines. 1976 would have been the time when they got automatic glow function instead of manual start. clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:50 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: Uh -oh, 'just noticed Gump is a '72; 'don't know if it's like the 123's, 124's, 126's I'm familiar

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
Does it have that little release slot in the face like your 87 300SDL? And 95 E320 if it's a 124. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Jim Cathey
I need big help. Gump has decided to eat my key. Stuck in the on position and will not turn or come out. What is the standard action to take to liberate it? That car has the interlock between the starting knob and the key switch. It won't allow the key to be turned to off unless the start

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
Gump has a ring that pops out more than unscrews and is not attached to the cylinder. No need for wire. I am sort of screwed though. Dash was upgraded to wood dash and when I did that, I did not get the ignition lines up perfectly. clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 8:58 PM, Wilton Strickland

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
OH! That would be really close to the issue. The off does not work really well on Gump anymore. I have to push all the way in and hope she shuts off. When she does not, I pop the clutch and just kill it. Maybe that is not working well anymore and I have to screw around more. Used to be

Re: [MBZ] 201 index

2008-09-25 Thread Luther
Or, you can make an *.iso file of it and mount it from your hard drive. MUCH easier. I use Virtual CDRom. I'm sure a Mac has software to do this, and Linux does it natively. Luther Jim Cathey wrote: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mb190d/Main.html I give up! How am I supposed to

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Wilton Strickland
I didn't realize at first that it's older than '76. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that model enough to help much. How 'bout pulling/yanking the starter switch some while trying to turn the key - like Jim said? 'Sorry I can't provide better help. Good luck. I may as well bail out. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Trapped key

2008-09-25 Thread Redghost
thank you for all the aid. Was what I had been trying to do all evening and was seeming to get nowhere with it, but was reasonable. clay On Sep 25, 2008, at 9:21 PM, Wilton Strickland wrote: I didn't realize at first that it's older than '76. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that model

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]

2008-09-25 Thread Luther
ya know, Kaleb actually forwarded something that's rational and effective! I'm impressed. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: *Subject:* I like this idea much better This will NEVER happen - makes too much sense! This guy hit it on the head !!! I’m against the $85,000,000,000.0020

Re: [MBZ] [Fwd: I like this Idea Better A must read]

2008-09-25 Thread Luther
Let me recant that crap Luther Luther wrote: ya know, Kaleb actually forwarded something that's rational and effective! I'm impressed. Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: