Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Canfield
For a backup unit I would not convert to a fuel that will be shut off during a disaster. With a propane tank you at least have until it runs out, with NG you get nothing when the worst happens and the supply is shut off. Mike On Oct 11, 2011 11:32 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Unless.. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: This is due a design defect: the water line is routed too close to the interior side of the freezer door. As the door is filled with expanding foam insulation, rectifying this is

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Max
I could, but I'd need more special tools, and I fear that fitting the old pre-chambers to the new head and getting a good seek might be tough. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: Can you use the injectors, pre-chambers, and glow plugs from

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Get a pair of new springs, used are a poor value. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I went to change my brake pads on the 240D today and I noticed a broken spring! How does something like this happen? On top of it all, one of the

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
We had a kitchen full of GE Profile appliances in our last house. While most were good and trouble-free, the icemaker in the fridge was a PITA. The one reoccurring problem I had was the chrome plated auger in the icemaker. When we moved in, it was pitted and rusted, something we attributed to

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Actually, NG is considered an acceptable fuel source in most municipalities, with the exception of areas covered by earthquake codes, such as California. That being said, given the choice I would stuck with LP since it's a dedicated source and has a higher BTU content, giving you more output

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick
It happens. Salt on the roads can make it happen more often. They drive better with new springs. Peter On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I went to change my brake pads on the 240D today and I noticed a broken spring! How does something like this happen? On top of it

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Walt Zarnoch
If it's a twin cool Samsung, make DARN SURE it's level! If not, when it's humid, you can have a nasty ice-up problem on the cooling coils in the back. That's fixable with a hair dryer and leveling the fridge. Great fridge other than that gotcha, the freezer keeps Vodka at -4F all day every day.

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes I'm coming to the sad realization that salt will be the death of this poor car. I will still do my best to keep it going and fix the rust as it comes. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:25 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: It happens. Salt on the roads can make it

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Do I really need to be afraid of replacing them myself if I use the Klann style spring compressor? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:32 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Get a pair of new springs, used are a poor value. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dimitri

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
I frequently drive through Leominster, MA which is the hometown of Johnny Appleseed... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:55:40 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Activity Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick
The pre-chambers seat improperly, and the cure it so have them machined very slightly at the base of the large diameter to allow the top seal to work. A 45 degree cut about of about 0.050 usually does the trick, it's quite small, and it's much easier to do that than machine out the head.

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick
No more so than any other time you remove the spring. The Klann is a great tool -- make absolutely certain the tool is properly installed and you are fine. Peter On Oct 12, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Do I really need to be afraid of replacing them myself if I use the

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
C'mon out, my '83 240D still has all its springs, I'll make you a great deal. 65 miles west of Boston, just off Rt2. Car WILL be gone at the beginning of November. -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:04:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Why a top freezer? I mean, I like top freezers fine don't get me wrong but I was under the impression that bottom freezers are more efficient. Water dispensers are horribly inefficient, might as well pour money out the window... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:50:21 -0700 From: Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Front or rear? Careful on the front springs, rear are much easier and don't require the tool. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Do I really need to be afraid of replacing them myself if I use the Klann style spring compressor? Sent

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
I worry about that too but I guess that in most big cities the gas stays on in most cases with the exception of earthquakes. It interests me how little disruption many people are willing to live with. I bought a 1200w generator (2 stroke, 1 gallon of gas for 8 hours at 50% usage) to run our

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
How many people in your household? In designing an electric-less cooler (icebox really) for camp I've come to appreciate how much energy we spend keeping food cold. The icebox I'm finally building is 4.5cuft which traditionally speaking, is oversize but its well insulated with 4 of foam.

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:27 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: This is due a design defect: the water line is routed too close to the interior side of the freezer door. As the door is filled with expanding foam insulation,

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:58 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I talked to GE, and since the appliance was out of warranty they pretty well blew me off. New house has all new Maytag appliances the seller put in. We bought a French door Samsung fridge because the side by side

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I think it is. It's a four door model with the drawer in between the fridge and freezer. Has the worthless display on the door over the ice/water dispenser. It's a beast, I know that. Doesn't get delivered until Saturday. Glad we have double entry doors Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Well, it was obvious (to me) that this was some sort of design flaw, as I went through two of these chrome plated augers with the same results. I made sure I got OEM parts both times as well, so they couldn't give me the crappy aftermarket parts argument. Found numerous references to the

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread WILTON
Another use for Shoe Goo? ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:04 AM Subject: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!! I went to change my brake pads on the 240D

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Dieselhead
Don't need a spring compressor if you have a floor jack. No Fear, but common sense is useful. Do I really need to be afraid of replacing them myself if I use the Klann style spring compressor? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Pronounced Limminsta --R On 10/12/11 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I frequently drive through Leominster, MA which is the hometown of Johnny Appleseed... -Curt Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:55:40 -0400 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Canfield
I love it when the power goes out. I have a little generator that runs my fridge and sump pump. That will run for 24 hours on 6 gallons of gas. Running for 30 min. at a time to keep things cold it goes a long time. I heat with wood only so there is no worry about a place to cook or read a

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: I think it is. It's a four door model with the drawer in between the fridge and freezer. Has the worthless display on the door over the ice/water dispenser. It's a beast, I know that. Doesn't get delivered until Saturday. Glad we have double entry doors And how many

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
We have four in the house. Me, the spouse, and two sons, 19 and 25. The side by side they put in was really small by any standard. I think it was only like 18-19 cubic feet capacity. I knew it was small when I saw it, as there was a good six inches of clearance between it and the wall on one

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Why a top freezer? I mean, I like top freezers fine don't get me wrong but I was under the impression that bottom freezers are more efficient. Cold sinks. Bottom freezers use a fan to blow cold air up to the 'fridge compartment. Or at least some do. One more moving part to fail... At time

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick
All frost-free fridges use a fan to cool the fridge part, also a fan to circulate air in the freezer -- sometimes one fan, sometimes two. Gravity cooling fridges are limited to very small capacity ones (dorm fridges) and they provide very poor freezing capacity. I prefer bottom freezers

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Front. Yes I can see their potential energy ready to be directed at my face! I might try to find a friend who has done this before to help me out. I also need to do a front end rebuild so I might as well tackle all at once. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Max

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That's very kind of you but I think I should replace with new. Do you have the spring compressor? Have you done this before? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: C'mon out, my '83 240D still has all its springs, I'll make you a great deal.

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 10:33 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Gravity cooling fridges are limited to very small capacity ones (dorm fridges) and they provide very poor freezing capacity. Had a gravity cooling fridge in an apartment I lived in years ago. Looked like a

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:35 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's very kind of you but I think I should replace with new. Do you have the spring compressor? Have you done this before? I think Rusty has a compressor he loans/rents. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
On 12/10/2011 3:46 AM, Michael Canfield wrote: For a backup unit I would not convert to a fuel that will be shut off during a disaster. With a propane tank you at least have until it runs out, with NG you get nothing when the worst happens and the supply is shut off. Mike I'm not really

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
On 12/10/2011 7:49 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: Actually, NG is considered an acceptable fuel source in most municipalities, with the exception of areas covered by earthquake codes, such as California. That being said, given the choice I would stuck with LP since it's a dedicated source and has a

[MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Tim C
For a couple days the '87 300SDL with the 22 head has had a water leak. Today, I went to fill the reservoir and hear a stream of water out of the block. (Full stream, about the volume of the inlet house.) I tracked it down to a port hole of some kind about midway along the IP, below maybe

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
The sales guy we bought our fridge from was saying that the French door style fridges are pretty much going to be all you can get in the next few years. Side by sides and top freezers are going away for the most part, according to him. Based on what we saw when we were shopping, there appears

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Here ya go, everything you need to know! http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm --R On 10/12/11 11:34 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Front. Yes I can see their potential energy ready to be directed at my face! I might try to find a friend who has done this before to help me

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
This was a closeout at HH Gregg, a regional big box store. Listed for $3200, got it for around $1900 with a five year warranty (they had a three year warranty built into the selling price which we bumped to five for another $80.) Certainly more than I wanted to pay, but to be honest, after

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
All these years I was thinking Lowminster although I never actually spoke the name. The home of Bobby Leo, IIRC. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Pronounced Limminsta --R On 10/12/11 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: I frequently

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Max
We just bought a new Samsung very similar to this about 18 months ago. Does a really good job of evenly cooling the refrigerator side. The control panel LED indicators started dying right after we got it, entire panel replaced under warranty. No problems since, ice dispenser works well. Most

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Again, the only reason not to use natural gas would be due to the potential for interruption. Since this is unlikely to happen where you live, I wouldn't worry about (aboot?) it. Dan, eh Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Walt Zarnoch
You should be able to buy another door shelf/bin for it, they must sell them as replacements. Walt On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: We just bought a new Samsung very similar to this about 18 months ago. Does a really good job of evenly cooling the

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Sell me your head (with injectors)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: For a couple days the '87 300SDL with the 22 head has had a water leak. Today, I went to fill the reservoir and hear a stream of water out of the block. (Full stream, about the volume

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Rich, do you suppose that '92 2.5 is still at that knackers? I might could find 5 injectors there. Up for a trip? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Leminsta actually. Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:14:34 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Activity Message-ID: 4e95a0ca.10...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Benz Hogs
OH, this is a new head, not a used one. Sorry, I missed that detail. Mine was used, and came everything still installed. Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge Ram 150 (290,xxx mi) On 10/12/2011 7:29 AM, Max wrote: I could, but I'd need more special tools, and I

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Check for a corroded and leaking core plug. Peter On Oct 12, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Max wrote: Sell me your head (with injectors)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: For a couple days the '87 300SDL with the 22 head has had a water leak. Today, I

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Same thing --R On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Leminsta actually. Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:14:34 -0400 From: Rich Thomasrichthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Activity Message-ID:4e95a0ca.10...@constructivity.net

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
No and no. Doesn't Rusty have the proper spring compressor for rent? -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 08:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!! Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] Broken spring! WTF???!!

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Here ya go, everything you need to know! http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_a_79_300td.htm Good timing I'm getting ready to do that on my W123 once I get the W116 on the road (and assuming

Re: [MBZ] OT: GE icemaker

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Our apartment had a gravity freezer. Normal size fridge with the freezer inside. Was fine for 2 people, would be too small for more. The freezer worked best in the center but was barely adequate. It froze up a lot which was aggravating. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:43:35 -0400 From: Allan

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Tim C
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Check for a corroded and leaking core plug. Looking at the EPC that is my guess too. Can they just start leaking? Or is it a sign of some other issue? It looks like the only way to get to it is to take off the IP. I

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread G Mann
Why not do both NG and Propane? Plumb into the NG source and also pipe into a reserve fuel tank of Propane. If my information is correct, you should be able to switch fuels without major change to the carb of the genset. That way you have a back up to your back up when the earthquake breaks the

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:09 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Looking at the EPC that is my guess too. Can they just start leaking? Or is it a sign of some other issue? Are you using the proper coolant (MB brand or Zerex G-05)? Allan -- 1983 300D (with correct coolant) 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
I've seen rubber plugs that you tighten a screw to make them expand in the hole, but I don't know if I'd use one for a block or head plug. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Fred Moir
Alles. If one has rotted through, probing with an icepick at the rest of them would be my recommendation. If it blew out whole, it may be the only one BTDT Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 10/12/2011 2:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:09 PM, Tim

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
On 12/10/2011 1:12 PM, G Mann wrote: Why not do both NG and Propane? Plumb into the NG source and also pipe into a reserve fuel tank of Propane. If my information is correct, you should be able to switch fuels without major change to the carb of the genset. That way you have a back up to your

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I was thinking the same when I saw the post about conversion to NG. I recalled the failure of the generators in New Orleans during Katrina. I agree that you are better off being self-sufficient in anticipation of an emergency. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Oops, I think the rubber plugs are for household plumbing, or very temporary emergency use. Here's the no hammer permanent fix: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_105a.htm Mitch Haley wrote: I've seen rubber plugs that you tighten a screw to make them expand in the hole, but I don't know

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Actually, you can do what is known as automatic changeover with a simple relay, a pressure switch and another solenoid valve. It would take me an hour to tap this out on my iPhone, so I will defer it to after working hours when am at home with a real computer. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Freeze plug replacement. Common and fairly safe. Sounds like the issue here is access. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:18 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: I've seen rubber plugs that you tighten a screw to make them expand in the hole, but I don't know if I'd use one

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
How much space is there? Could you wiggle in a block heater? They generally slip in and then there is bolt to tighten - at least on non MB units. Randy On 12/10/2011 1:09 PM, Tim C wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Peter Frederickpsf...@earthlink.net wrote: Check for a corroded and

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread WILTON
Eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator Again, the only reason not to use natural gas would be due to the potential for

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
Sort of a Canadian version of Y'all or something like that. IE - in Atlanta, you might say how ya doin, y'all? In Toronto, you would say how ya doin, eh? Randy On 12/10/2011 1:34 PM, WILTON wrote: Eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Those rubber plugs are for freeze plugs, I used one once on a 240d and it worked fine. Don't know about doing it on a permanent basis though Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Oops, I think the rubber plugs are for household plumbing, or very

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread WILTON
Yep, and one is no more right nor better than the other. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator Sort of a Canadian

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Why not a diesel gen? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:34 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Eh? Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:14 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Ot-restore old Benz

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Error 404: Page not found On 10/5/11 2:18 PM, Clay wrote: Mercedes Motoring - Gallery http://www.stumbleupon.com/to/s/2emIIG Sent from my iPad ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:29 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: I was thinking the same when I saw the post about conversion to NG. I recalled the failure of the generators in New Orleans during Katrina. I agree that you are better off being self-sufficient in

Re: [MBZ] Activity

2011-10-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Isn't lowminster where they make joint compound. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:10 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: All these years I was thinking Lowminster although I never actually spoke the name. The home of Bobby Leo, IIRC. On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:14 AM,

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Why not a diesel gen? My thought too. Used ones with plenty of life are all over eBay. I like the security of knowing that I have more than a snowball's chance of fixing the gen if it breaks down---mine is a

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I vaguely recall the engine being pulled from that car. -R On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Max wrote: Rich, do you suppose that '92 2.5 is still at that knackers? I might could find 5 injectors there. Up for a trip? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
The definition of standby service uses the phrase for the duration of the outage. No time frame is specified. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:29 AM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
On 12/10/2011 1:58 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.net wrote: Why not a diesel gen? My thought too. Used ones with plenty of life are all over eBay. I like the security of knowing that I have more than a snowball's chance of

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Max
New as in new to me. It is used, has pre-chambers, but I didn't get the injectors. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote: OH, this is a new head, not a used one. Sorry, I missed that detail. Mine was used, and came everything still installed.

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:05 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: The definition of standby service uses the phrase for the duration of the outage. No time frame is specified. But one is assumed... most people don't put 10,000 gallon fuel tanks on their standby generators to cover

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Max
After we were there? Darn. I was tempted to get the power steering pump, so engine was there. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I vaguely recall the engine being pulled from that car. -R On 10/12/11 1:20 PM, Max wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Tim C
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:09 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Looking at the EPC that is my guess too.  Can they just start leaking?  Or is it a sign of some other issue? Are you using the proper coolant (MB

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Do you have the IP locking tool? I'm also slow, I'm thinking that RR of IP would take me 4 hours or so. There is a large O-ring between IP and block, and you'll need to remove the vacuum pump to get at the bolt holding the timer onto the IP. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:17 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:09 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: Looking at the EPC that is my guess too.  Can they just start leaking?  Or is

Re: [MBZ] Bad day for the SDL

2011-10-12 Thread Tim C
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:17 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: On Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:09 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Oh man, back in the day I had the chance for a really old diesel gen. Single cyl, I think it was rated at 25 or 30hp, the gen head I think was 10kw but its been a long time. It had a badass kick start like on a motorcycle and ran really slow, like 1200rpm. Was VERY quiet because it had 2 or 3

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Max
Peter, great info, thanks. I may end up going this route. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: The pre-chambers seat improperly, and the cure it so have them machined very slightly at the base of the large diameter to allow the top seal

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I knew this guy in Houston who lived in a small compound next to his brother and some other like-minded souls (and their women wore homemade clothes and such), who in anticipation of the Y2k Apocalypse, installed a large diesel generator with a coupla those big plastic tank/wire frame totes of

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Probably an old air cooled Lister. Very durable, lots of them In third world countries. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh man, back in the day I had the chance for a really old diesel gen. Single cyl, I think it was rated at 25

Re: [MBZ] OM603 head upgrade to #17

2011-10-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I don't know for sure, I thought that car you snagged the parts from was a gasser but maybe I am wrong. I might be out that way in the next few days, if so I will stop in and check it out. You ought to just buy the whole engine, probably get a better deal on it than picking parts. --R On

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Probably an old air cooled Lister. Very durable, And tons of fun to watch running with the valvetrain and everything else out in the open! http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=ldab20lhx3E Alex

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Actually, some do. Hospitals and government buildings are required by code to have a minimum amount of fuel on site based on full load consumption over a fixed period of time. I saw plenty of places in my day that had large fuel supplies, mainly because the tanks were cheap at the time of

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Cold starting will be an issue with LP, but not natural gas. If you have a relatively small tank (under 200 gallons) at the ambient temps you see in the winter, it will be tough, if not impossible, to get any vapor out of the tank. An alternative would be a liquid withdrawal system, but they

[MBZ] Chi-town followup

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
So last Thursday I went to Chi-Town. My friend there really played it up for me so it was difficult to force myself to remember to think about the place as if I'd be living there. Its a very clean city, or at least it was where we were in the west loop and down to Navy Pier. In Boston even a

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Hertzing
As a Hospital I can attest that we are required to be able to run on generator power only, at 80% load for 72 hours.That - my friends - is alot of diesel fuel. We have two fo these and we actually have the ability to run all of the required equipment for 5 days and stuff thats not required on a

Re: [MBZ] Chi-town followup

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Hertzing
Best of luck to you. Keep us midwesterners posted. My in-laws are in chicago so I spend alot of time in that neck of the woods. Peter On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So last Thursday I went to Chi-Town. My friend there really played it up for me so

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Now that you mention it I think thats probably what it was. In which case it was probably a 16hp which means 10k was probably a surge rating. Still I'd love to have one now for our camp, the conventional generattle is pretty aggravating. With a diesel set like that I'd build a dedicated

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Curt Raymond
In a stable environment you could evacuate the air from a tank couldn't you? That'd eliminate a large part of your potential problem. With a bladder tank it'd be pretty easy. Need a way to allow air when the generator started up though. -Curt Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:47:20 -0400 From: Dan

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell
On 12/10/2011 3:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: In a stable environment you could evacuate the air from a tank couldn't you? That'd eliminate a large part of your potential problem. With a bladder tank it'd be pretty easy. Need a way to allow air when the generator started up though. -Curt Just

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: But one is assumed... most people don't put 10,000 gallon fuel tanks on their standby generators to cover the case of the power being out for a year. In my case, it's a 500 gallon (350 in reality) propane tank for the furnace that the dealer doesn't let drop below 150

Re: [MBZ] OT standby generator

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Company I worked for was getting rid of a bunch of them, could have had it for $100. I didn't have anywhere to put it at the time. For that price, buy three and find somebody who will store them if you let him keep one. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] Ot-restore old Benz

2011-10-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Error 404: Page not found That's aa 404 on an embedded link in the home page. The banner/menu was still there, so I clicked on 'Gallery', which took me here: http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2emIIG/www.mercedesmotoring.com/gallery/

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