Re: [MBZ] not for Roger

2011-11-16 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I am curious as to why this is advertised as a 'Hammer'? A Hammer is a W124 with a 6L V8. Hendrik who has lots of hammers but none with an engine relng...@aol.com wrote: ...http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/cto/2692476812.htmlno affiliation or interest. Want a Hammer?... About like

Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety

2011-11-16 Thread Smith, Todd
Isn't this the reason that Dr. Marshall Booth bought his lifelong string of Mercedes after his first wife was killed in a car crash? He looked around and found the safest car that he could buy and that turned out to be Mercedes. Todd Smith -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okie

Re: [MBZ] Why did Finnies have fins?

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
You gotta love that air bag test. The looks on those guy's faces are priceless. I can just imagine the fun one could have captioning that Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Hendrik & Fay wrote: > Watch and find out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1wGa9wAmw&feature=relat

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
On Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:42 AM, "Max" wrote: > I've no clue what that is, but I fear the worst. I'd say conventional ATF > for now. Aren't you glad you dropped the pan!?! Heh. Yes and no. Seems that every time I open a panel or cover on this car I find something else that's broke

Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?

2011-11-16 Thread Randy Bennell
On 15/11/2011 5:57 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Allan Streib wrote: A modern diesel in a similar sized car will significantly better a Prius in terms of fuel economy. ...except when stopped. The hybrids excel in situations where most drivers sit idling, or where there's a lot of stop and go. Mit

[MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Randy Bennell
So, what engine would be in a 78 123 gasser? I am assuming an inline 6 cylinder? Carbs? Problems? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety

2011-11-16 Thread Max
"Smith, Todd" wrote: >Isn't this the reason that Dr. Marshall Booth bought his lifelong >string of Mercedes after his first wife was killed in a car crash? He >looked around and found the safest car that he could buy and that >turned out to be Mercedes. > Yes, or close to it. -- Max Dillon Cha

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Why sure! Many components come from Taiwan, Malaysia and Thailand. I sincerely doubt there are any that are built from all made-in-USA parts. Even Boeing aircraft are built from internationally sourced components. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:merce

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
M130 with dual Zeniths or an M123(?) which is like a later M130 with a Solex 4A1. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:39 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: > So, what engine would be in a 78 123 gasser? > > I am assuming an inline 6 cylinder? > > Carbs? > > Problems? > > Randy > > _

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Randy Bennell
Ok, sacrilage maybe, but would a SBC fit under the hood in a 78 123 coupe without huge issues? My recollection is that these old inline 6 MB engines were thirsty without being all that powerful. Randy who has a 350 4 bolt main block etc in the garage with no immediate purpose On 16/11/2011

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
If it's a 280C, it's a DOHC engine whose number escapes me. That being said, these models were not known for their longevity. The one saving grace is if you find one with fuel injection. The carbed models were not fun to work on or maintain, and that's coming from someone who had all of these b

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Tim C
My brother-in-law works in sales at Lenovo, and I drive by* their main office every time I eat pizza for lunch. I work with a bunch of ex-IBMers and have had/used a dozen Thinkpads at work. They are nice machines, though in fairness the last ones I used were from just after Lenovo bought the PC d

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Randy Bennell
Have not gone to look yet but it appears to be pretty decent bodywise and interior wise and cheap. I know there is no such thing as a cheap Mercedes but my bottom feeder mentality makes me want to look. Randy On 16/11/2011 2:41 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: If it's a 280C, it's a DOHC engine whose nu

Re: [MBZ] 123 best safety

2011-11-16 Thread Brian Toscano
Yes, that's my recollection of Marshall's reasoning as well. However, a lot has changed since the mid-1960s. Back then when McNamara was asked about seat belts he famously quipped "Ford sells automobiles not safety". Brian On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Max wrote: > "Smith, Todd" wrote:

Re: [MBZ] A lost cause?

2011-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond
MotorTrend calls the Passat TDI the sedan of the year (or some such foolishness) it was up against Camry and Sonata hybrids. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:23:29 -0600 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A lost cause? Message-ID: <4ec3e381.40...@bennell.ca> Con

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond
If you want a real high-end Dell you get a Precision laptop. I've had 2 and they're astonishing. Of course the price for replacement parts is equally astonishing... My first one lost its video card, Dell wants $600 for a replacement. -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:42:29 -0500 From: Tim C To:

[MBZ] 124 fuel leak

2011-11-16 Thread WILTON
Y'all may remember that a month or so ago I reported my 87 300D leaking fuel at or near rear of IP. Well, I finally had indy R&R delivery valve seals today. Washed area with gunk and water before I went to indy this morning. 55-mile home from Raleigh didn't bring forth more leaks that I kno

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond
When did the 123 230E come out? I was going to look at one but ended up buying my 240D instead... -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:53:32 -0500 From: Dan Penoff To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1978? Message-ID: <4442c2e6-92ed-47ac-a300-e1ea9d517...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/p

[MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
On my 1983 300TD, there is an annoying metallic noise (very much like a noisy speedometer) that is heard intermittently around 20 mph, then continues at highway speeds > 60. The noise continues if you disconnect the gauges (plugging the oil filter line) and shut the engine off while cruising. We

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond writes: > I'd also say conventional, I'm in the midst of doing this with my '84 > 190D, I figure after 30,000 miles or so I'll switch to M1. You find any random pieces of metal in your filter? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
andrew strasfogel writes: > So whoever can solve this puzzler by telling me where this noise is coming > from and how to cure it wins a prize - hot pepper jelly or persimmons from > my backyard tree. I was watching a Top Gear episode last night, Clarkson was racing May and Hammond to the Swiss A

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Moir
Doc Martin on PBS has Eileen Atkins driving a W123 230E. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 11/16/2011 4:19 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: When did the 123 230E come out? I was going to look at one but ended up buying my 240D instead... -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:53:32 -0500 From: Dan Peno

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
Close, but no cigar. Noise is independent of the wipers. Might be the front crossbar - discovered it was bent and about to disintegrate. Removed, will test drive tomorrow. andrew On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Allan Streib wrote: > andrew strasfogel writes: > > > So whoever can solve this

[MBZ] C230 wipers!

2011-11-16 Thread WILTON
At indy's today, a lady came in complaining that her '00 C230 wipers are inop. $1000 R&R! As she was leaving, I told her the value of my 21-and-25-year-old cars just went up Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] Oil Analysis - Lube Tips

2011-11-16 Thread Larry
Hi All - I get a newsletter from a group called Machinery Lubrication - http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Page/subscriptions IMO the title is a little misleading – the topics for this month are: a.. Beware of Blue Engine Smoke b.. Comparing Gasoline and Diesel Engine Oils c.. Why Chan

Re: [MBZ] C230 wipers!

2011-11-16 Thread Rich Thomas
That is insane. --R On 11/16/11 6:17 PM, WILTON wrote: At indy's today, a lady came in complaining that her '00 C230 wipers are inop. $1000 R&R! As she was leaving, I told her the value of my 21-and-25-year-old cars just went up Wilton ___ http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Wish I'd have known, I have one that meeds a keyboard and some misc bits. Oh well, haha. Walt On Nov 16, 2011 3:42 PM, "Tim C" wrote: > My brother-in-law works in sales at Lenovo, and I drive by* their main > office every time I eat pizza for lunch. I work with a bunch of > ex-IBMers and have

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I've had both of your offerings but failed to solve any of your problems! BTW might be back early December. Ready to get greasy? From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
No idea about the SBC, but if you set up and properly adjust either the Zenith or Solex carbs, these models, especially the M130 with Zeniths, will pull stumps. Their downfall is the crappy gas mileage. Of all the cars I owned with the M130, I never, ever got better than about 14 MPG. And that

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond
No but the previous owner was poor about maintenance. I figure 30,000 miles will flush the previously left alone crap into the filter, then I'll do another filter and fill with M1. I may even do it myself that time, I've never done an AT service before, always subbed it out. -Curt Date: Wed, 1

Re: [MBZ] C230 wipers!

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
30 years ago the normal Min bill at a stealer was $500. Factor in inflation and it is considerable more. Take a shop rate of $130 at the indy, and say the transmission was KO'd. A new transmission and a few hours and $1000 is not unreasonable. Stealer would have probably been $1500 or $2000

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Curt Raymond
You took the wipers off? -Curt Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:48:32 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Close, but no cigar. Noise is independent of the wipers. Might be th

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Fred Moir
Walt. I have an old working C600 Latitude. Yours for postage. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 11/16/2011 6:52 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Wish I'd have known, I have one that meeds a keyboard and some misc bits. Oh well, haha. Walt On Nov 16, 2011 3:42 PM, "Tim C" wrote: My brother-i

Re: [MBZ] ThinkPads [was Re: Computer meets coke]

2011-11-16 Thread Walt Zarnoch
Was thinking it was an IBM thinkpad 600, I currently don't have any Dell machines. Thanks for the offer though! Walt On Nov 16, 2011 7:39 PM, "Fred Moir" wrote: > Walt. > I have an old working C600 Latitude. > Yours for postage. > > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > > > On 11/16/2011 6:5

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
AT fluid/filter change is not hard. Just messy. Smurf gloves are your friend. Buy the ones at NAPA, not the ones at HF. 4 or 6 bolts and a screw. (and an allen wrench if you are going to do the TC. As others have said, don't do it with the fluid at 160-180º F. Wait until the temp cool

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Zeniths, and part of my strong distaste for carbs BUT a 220Sb with dual solexes would do 18 MPG. Larry may know more, But I'd guess an M130 with the zeniths tossed in favor of webers could be tuned to do 18 MPG. I tuned a 10 MPG truck once to get 15-16 on the road. I only changed the j

Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis - Lube Tips

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Do you (or does anyone) do analysis on transmission fluid? Is there any reason to think that would be beneficial? Allan "Larry" writes: > Hi All - > I get a newsletter from a group called Machinery Lubrication - > http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Page/subscriptions IMO the title is a >

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Also pay attention to the torque specs when reinstalling the pan. They are pretty low. If you overtighten it you will warp the pan and it will leak. Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > AT fluid/filter change is not hard. Just messy. Smurf gloves are your > friend. Buy the ones at NAPA,

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Dan Penoff
I have been a long time advocate of the Zenith carb on the M130. These are often maligned for poor performance, when in reality they perform quite well when properly set up and adjusted. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Zeniths, an

Re: [MBZ] Oil Analysis - Lube Tips

2011-11-16 Thread Larry
We do it when requested - actually any kind of lubricant or hydraulic fluid can be tested - but the tests done less often are more costly - like gasoline and brake fluid tests. IIRC, transaxles, rear ends and engines are all the same price. As far as need? For the same reasons as doing engin

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Jim Cathey
On my 1983 300TD, there is an annoying metallic noise (very much like a noisy speedometer) that is heard intermittently around 20 mph, then continues at highway speeds > 60. Umm, noisy speedometer? Cable thereto? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread Jim Cathey
So, what engine would be in a 78 123 gasser? When did the 280E come out? Could be carbed or injected in that body style. All I6's, to my knowledge. SOHC or DOHC, though. My 250C is SOHC w/Zeniths. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used par

Re: [MBZ] 1978?

2011-11-16 Thread OK Don
Sounds like a good use for that SBC -- On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Ok, sacrilage maybe, but would a SBC fit under the hood in a 78 123 coupe > without huge issues? > My recollection is that these old inline 6 MB engines were thirsty without > being all that powerful.

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Jim gets the prize: I plugged in the C fuse, and the light functions normally.So, if the alarm system initiated the drain, then maybe the gremlins are gone. I won't find out until spring. I just put away 3/4 of the fleet for winter. Took out the batteries to charge. (No juice in th

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread MG
That looks like a piece of an internal snap-ring. This would usually hold a set of clutches and or a clutch piston in the case or in a drum in the transmission. Could have broken from age or damage to the ledges that keep the ring in place. Only a matter of time till there is more damage and th

[MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is > insanity. I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and our diesel p

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
YES! On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is insanity. I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and our

[MBZ] OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Rant warning I tried to resurrect a 2003 server that has been dormant for a few years. Had it running a few times, and then it pops up that it has to be authorized or shut down. So, it won't connect because the network card does not have the right settings. Then I call in, and get a "

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
MG writes: > That looks like a piece of an internal snap-ring. Agree, that's what I thought. I'm hoping there's enough of it left in place to hold for a while. Did the W116 have the transmissions that were prone to the B2 piston failure? (Though this does not look like any part of that as far

Re: [MBZ] OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug

2011-11-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Awh just get a mac. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: Rant warning I tried to resurrect a 2003 server that has been dormant for a few years. Had it running a few times, and then it pops up that it has to be authorized or shut down. So

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Craig writes: > I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. > > Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched downward and > our diesel prices have inched upward. > > Is that so consumers will feel good about "cheap" gasoline, but not see > the increased diesel prices becau

Re: [MBZ] OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Dimitri Seretakis writes: > Awh just get a mac. For me, a "server" would get OpenBSD. Stable, consistent, and "just works." Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives htt

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread andrew strasfogel
The entie cluster was disconnected - noise persisted. On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > On my 1983 300TD, there is an annoying metallic noise (very much like a >> noisy speedometer) that is heard intermittently around 20 mph, then >> continues at highway speeds > 60. >> > > Um

Re: [MBZ] W116, noisy transmission/TC

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib writes: > To clarify: the pawl is working, it's more like it's not totally going > into neutral. There's still a bit of power getting to the output so if > I am stopped on level ground, put the gear selector in Park, and give it > some throttle it will roll forward until the pawl ca

Re: [MBZ] OT Micro$oft Bah Humbug

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Does that come with a GUI, or is it command line only? I want to sign up for one of Dan's surplus OS 10 apple servers sometime. I worked with Mandrake server a few years ago. It was pretty good. I am not into searching for "packages" to add on for basic functionality. Anything that has to be

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Brian Toscano
Doesn't diesel always cost more during the fall and winter? On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > YES! > > > > On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3.

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Craig
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:38:16 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: > The entie cluster was disconnected - noise persisted. Was the far end of the cable still connected to the transmission? If so, it's still turning. Craig > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Jim Cathey > wrote: > > > On my 1983

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread WILTON
Bingo! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:38:16 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: The entie cluster was disconnected - noise persisted. Was the far end of the ca

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Dieselhead
Depends on the time frame you want to reference. Recent years, that may be true. Pre 2007, Maybe not. Pre-1984, nope. Doesn't diesel always cost more during the fall and winter? That "fuel supplies get tighter in the heating season" is the line they feed us, but I doubt that fuel oil us

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices

2011-11-16 Thread Allan Streib
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes: > That "fuel supplies get tighter in the heating season" is the line > they feed us, but I doubt that fuel oil usage has increased over the > past 40 years. Used to be a lot of oil heat. Now it is virtually > gone, except in the East where the ground is t

[MBZ] 124 ACC PBUs

2011-11-16 Thread Alex Chamberlain
So, the '87 300D's climate control is acting up. (Symptom: Mode buttons and fan speed control buttons work as designed, but temperature control comes and goes: sometimes it works fine, and sometimes the vents just blow cold air regardless of the dial setting.) Does anyone know the functional dif

Re: [MBZ] Today's W123 puzzler

2011-11-16 Thread Jerry Herrman
n the street. We didn't know any better. I realize this is of no help, but it is fun to reminisce. Jerry 82 240D 37 Dodge 38 Plymouth (The latter two are only pictures and memories now) __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6636 (2016) _

Re: [MBZ] Petrol Prices [was: Re: 87 300D Next electrical gremlin- parasitic drain]

2011-11-16 Thread Max
Craig wrote: >On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:33:59 -0600 Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Diesel foreverexcept when it is $4 and guzoline is $3. That is >> insanity. > >I was planning on writing an email about this tonight. > >Over the last few months, our gasoline prices have inched d