Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's Tractor

2014-10-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Get long forks and you can lift from the lift points underneath. 4430 may be cheaper than a 4020 these days. For junkers, yes, you can lift from the roof. Kinda keeps the windows from sealing thereafter. I'll bet the forks will fit right in the window openings with the windows rolled down.

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
G Mann: Frost this morning. You don't need any AC Save the money. 44 lb of propane/butane could make a nice weinie roast out of your bus. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change d

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I had an '86 Legend for several years in the late '90's. I put about 100K miles on it and sold it for more than I bought it. I believe it had 198K on it when I sold it. I loved everything about that car. When I look for cars, I look for two things: MBs I cannot live without and first generation Leg

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
But you can do more with longer range FRS stuff for car to car and then use them while wandering around clay On Oct 6, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? > > We do, when caravanning. I acquired (via thrift shop over time) > four Uniden

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread clay via Mercedes
Not sure about the new stuff, but the older asian cars do tend to run to almost 200k. the honda, toyota, acura stuff I had lasted through 150k without issues. As long as proper service was done. Getting past 180k was pushing need for major overhauls of engine as well as body. Probably like t

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 06:40:06 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > >global cooling which was why the >government took away R-12 > > R-12 was taken off the market because it eroded the ozone layer in the > upper atmosphere. It was lauded as a perfect coolant because it is > extremely stable. Tha

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's Tractor

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'll bet the forks will fit right in the window openings with the windows rolled down. An easy lift from there. Dan On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:17 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Get a 4020 with a loader or a 4430, and you can move cars (with forks in > place of the bucket) > _

Re: [MBZ] Kaleb's Tractor

2014-10-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Get a 4020 with a loader or a 4430, and you can move cars (with forks in place of the bucket) Yea I'm buying a john Deere 3032, after research I got a deere which is top of the line as far as I am concerned cheaper than Kubota etc, way cheaper. Plus I took advantage of the 0 down 0% 60 month

Re: [MBZ] The first car in the shop

2014-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Btw I figure I can probably squeeze about 10-12 cars in there but that would not leave room for much else as far as room to work. Can probably fit another 5-6 in the barn. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > What is it? Looks quite generic except for

Re: [MBZ] The first car in the shop

2014-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's a 115 Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 9:17 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > What is it? Looks quite generic except for the fog lights, which bespeak a > W115 > >> On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed..

Re: [MBZ] The first car in the shop

2014-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What is it? Looks quite generic except for the fog lights, which bespeak a W115 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image1.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 126256 bytes > Desc: not available

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mercedes coffee table books, service manuals and any other OFFICIAL Daimler Benz publication. I would send a link except I can't track any down. Also, try looking on the trunk lid of the car itself: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/4700485168.html Andrew Trying to hide a smug grin On Mo

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
ons go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those >>> individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner >>> has no control ov

Re: [MBZ] Convoy

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Better yet.. spend the few bucks extra and get the model with rechargeable batteries.. With an adapter, you can talk all you want and keep them plugged into the car power port [formerly known as cigar lighter, back in the day when men were men and ships were wood]. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:32 PM,

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
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[MBZ] The first car in the shop

2014-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's the drug combo they gave me, I took it faithfully for the day of the laproscopic surgery (hernia #2) and the day after, then I went to plain Tylenol. The laproscopic recovery was, for me, quite easy compared to the full "cut & gut" treatment for hernia #1. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Hmm. Good point. All I would need is a can tap and a hose... I could probably find a set for cheap locally or on eBay... Thanks! Dan On Oct 6, 2014, at 7:11 PM, David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes wrote: > On 10/6/2014 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > (snip) > > In the interest

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread MG via Mercedes
I called and talked with the guy about that a couple of weeks ago. He said to just put it into the system after you let it fill to atmospheric pressure with air. He also told me that it doesn't form acids if there is a bit of humidity in there with the air. You could also leave the 134 in and j

Re: [MBZ] The White Whale - soon to be sighted in the CHS area

2014-10-06 Thread MG via Mercedes
OH OK that makes me feel a little better, but too late. I busted my butt rebuilding a set of injectors today, getting them within 5lb and then putting them into the red TD. Helped very little in the idle. I probably should do a compression check, something that I should have done a while ago.

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 20:29:08 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > Because that's the correct way! Look it up. Where? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery opti

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

2014-10-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Hi Dan, I have one suggestion and then I'll say no more: Try to avoid "scolding" members with whom you disagree. (See your "scold" below.) One member wrote me that he was leaving the list because of your "attitude"; i.e. you apparently "scolded" him. Otherwise, perhaps you could get with the R

Re: [MBZ] TD

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Mitch, I think one was an '81 that I test drove and didn't purchase (it overheated), the other I don't remember. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 6, 2014 4:23 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" wrote: > Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> My father had an '83 240D automatic that I drove on a tri

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Percocet is the Dom Perignon of pain medication. I relied on it for both my rotator cuff surgeries, L and R, 11 years apart On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Resist the urge to go cold turkey off those powerful pain meds. Silly me, >

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Because that's the correct way! Look it up. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm seeing it too, rando m s paces when Andrew writes SL C. > > -Curt > > > > From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes > To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Coughing? No no, laughter is what REALLY hurts recovering from that surgery. Been there twice, brother. First time was full deal, gave me a nice long zipper scar. Took a couple three days to feel safely mobile, then a week of gingerly limping around the house. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread David & Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes
On 10/6/2014 8:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: (snip) In the interest of full disclosure, my oldest son's 300E 2.6 still has R12 in it, and I have a can on the shelf. It could probably stand to be topped off, but I don't have a manifold gauge set that will do R12. It is my und

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Resist the urge to go cold turkey off those powerful pain meds. Silly me, after I had both knees replaced at once I decided I could handle the pain and wanted to be off the drugs. You need to taper off or you will feel really sick. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

2014-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's all obama fault Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > AST wrote: >> I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the >> Ritter/Easley List? > > Alive, thriving. > mercedeslist.com > I believe this response will

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Mom wrote: > When the wife had her hip replaced they've her the self-regulated morphine > drip. > Is this the new morphine drip list? or, is this okiebenz Where's the MB content... Play nice, or you will be moderated like me and Gerry. I can find controversey regarding morphine drip - shall we ha

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

2014-10-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
AST wrote: > I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the > Ritter/Easley List? > Alive, thriving. mercedeslist.com I believe this response will not make it to okiebenz - I am probably being moderated... ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] We are ***!!

2014-10-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > Don't we have a list for that kind of behavior? Go play games over there. > Yes, mom. I am playing there to, real nicely. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery o

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When the wife had her hip replaced they've her the self-regulated morphine drip. The only problem was that she couldn't sleep, since if she did she would wake up in pain and only be able to get the measured dose. "How is your pain? Rate it on a scale of 1 to 10." I think that was a mantra that

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Exactly. I have talked to a number of SL owners who swear by the difference in drive ability with larger diameter wheels with wider tires, but I'm wondering if it's really worth it. I will say that the sting is not quite as bad when I figure in the cost of the wheels. They were take-offs from

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 16:48:29 -0400 Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: > You have to stay ahead of the pain. Follow the doc's orders as to how > often and how much. If you don't take the meds the pain will get a LOT > worse then you will be playing catch-up which is not pleasant. Yes, what he sa

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You have to stay ahead of the pain. Follow the doc's orders as to how often and how much. If you don't take the meds the pain will get a LOT worse then you will be playing catch-up which is not pleasant. --R On 10/6/14 4:37 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Craig via Mercedes wrote: P.

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 09:23:00 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: > > Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? > > We do, when caravanning. I acquired (via thrift shop over time) > four Uniden 510XL (?) and magnetic antennae. They're a bit large > and clunky, but they work well and have good range, and are

Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Craig via Mercedes wrote: P.S. I didn't experience the old saw with my neck surgery because I was on an on-demand morphine drip -- too far tripped out to notice or care! The nurse forced two Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen on me an hour and a half after I woke up. "Is this like Tylenol 3

Re: [MBZ] We are ***!!

2014-10-06 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
It is not so much topic as tone. Banned might be an option for some of these conversations. YMMV On Oct 6, 2014 1:08 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > Don't we have a list for that kind of behavior? Go play games over there. > > -Curt > Who has refrained from talking about the metalwork h

Re: [MBZ] TD

2014-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: My father had an '83 240D automatic that I drove on a trip once, and it seemed just fine to me. A little slow off the line, but once you got rolling it was a pleasure. It must have been an unusual example, as I've driven a couple others since then, and they were

[MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 15:58:00 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > (5 hours post-op and giving up all thoughts of suicide, except when I > cough. Don't ever cough the same day you have hernia surgery) Speak about "Ouch!" You probably have heard the old saw, "On day 2, you are afraid you will

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Current quotes on 42 lbs. of R12 are running in the $3000+ range.. Here I was, thinking it was ridiculous that about ten years ago a refrigerant supplier quoted me something like $300 for a 20 or 30lb cylinder of R290, which was more than I paid for R134a in the 12o

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Mercedes content: I just purchased a new Mercedes [to me new] which uses R12. The R12 charge for my "new Mercedes" is 42 lbs. Thus, I have "skin in this game" because the system is currently empty and purged, needing refill. 42lb??? My HOUSE takes 121 ounces of 410A

Re: [MBZ] Convoy

2014-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3VN54M1OXA --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts a

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 14:45:02 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > I have a set of stock alloys from a 2003 SL that are waiting to go on > my 97 SL500. They're staggered 18" wheels, 8" in the front and 9" in > the back. > > I've been pricing a matched set of tires for them and the prices are >

[MBZ] Convoy

2014-10-06 Thread Van Knutson via Mercedes
Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? I was thinking about our planned caravan to Indiana with three vehicles (me driving our Big Red Van [BRV (tm)] towing our utility trailer, Shirley driving our E320, and my brother driving a rental truck towing our 240D/3.0), and realized that cell phones wo

Re: [MBZ] a better deal R-12

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Risky. 3/4 full of what? I guess the price reflects the risk. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/lis

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Ok! Never mind my other email. Sounds like one should first pressurize the system with dry nitrogen to test for leaks, bleed that off, then fill with ES. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Oct 6, 2014 1:41 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" wrote: > > Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:37 PM > Subject: Re

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I have a set of stock alloys from a 2003 SL that are waiting to go on my 97 SL500. They're staggered 18" wheels, 8" in the front and 9" in the back. I've been pricing a matched set of tires for them and the prices are enough to make me choke. I'll easily have $1000 or more in tires alone when I

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Speaking of Asian cars, I think my favorite Asian car bar none is the first generation Acura legends. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
My "old" car now is an '05 E320 with 160K on the clock. SWMBO was driving it 65 miles a day round trip all surface streets to work. I drove it for the first time in about 4 months last week. I could feel the transmission mounts failing. Going to go to the indy about an hour to get transmission moun

Re: [MBZ] *** New Issue - Help!***2004 E320 4Matic- ABS & ESP Malfunction Question

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Agreed. Low batteries and/or battery voltage wreaks havoc in the W140s and R126s. Being that they're the same vintage as your car, I'm suspecting the same. Be sure to have the battery load tested, as that can reveal things like a bad cell. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Oct 6, 2014, at 2:11 PM,

Re: [MBZ] freon 12

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It has been my experience with the W124 chassis cars that converting to R134a results in pretty poor performance. At least in this part of the world. Anyone know what a "parallel flow" condenser is? The wife's 2005 Mazda 6 has one. No sight glass, either, so I'm not sure how you can tell how muc

Re: [MBZ] *** New Issue - Help!***2004 E320 4Matic- ABS & ESP Malfunction Question

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Charge the battery and see if that helps, could all be related... -Curt From: Robert Koziak via Mercedes To: d...@penoff.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] *** New Issue - Help!***2004 E320 4Matic- ABS & ESP Ma

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Fmiser via Mercedes
> Craig wrote: > > Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? Yeah - I have a CB radios - and use em. > Rich wrote: > > Just buy some of those little hand-held radios, they are cheap and some have > quite > good range, certainly enough for car-car. Those little FRS radios work, but are a pain bec

[MBZ] a better deal R-12

2014-10-06 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
this is a deal http://nwga.craigslist.org/mat/4663010816.html but 90 miles away, more or less thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Original Message   From: Craig via Mercedes Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:56 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Craig Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134 On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:41:22 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Any tips or tricks when adding the hydrocarbon stuff?  Did you

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:41:22 -0500 Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> Any tips or tricks when adding the hydrocarbon stuff?  Did you pull a >> vacuum prior to putting it in, or top up the system? > > No vacuum, or very light vacuum. Dry system. Invert the can. It flashes > off into a gas the inst

[MBZ] freon 12

2014-10-06 Thread Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes
Folks i swear by R12 i love it in my 300td here's some on ebay http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?clk_rvr_id=709025282435&_from=R40&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&_nkw=freon+12+30+lbs&_sop=15 there is usually a lot of it on craigslist here's some for $15 per pound in atlanta http://atlanta.craigslist.org/sa

Re: [MBZ] *** New Issue - Help!***2004 E320 4Matic- ABS & ESP Malfunction Question

2014-10-06 Thread Robert Koziak via Mercedes
I haven't has time to pull the wheels and clean the sensors. Running the car for 250 miles didn't clear up the issue either. I read that a low battery might have caused the issue so I am going to test the battery and alternator tonight. I am at work and was advised that my car had a muffle

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134 ‎Original Message   From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 7:54 AM To: Mercedes Reply To: Meade Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134 >Any tips or tricks when adding the >hydrocarbon stuff?  D

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I remember taking a bus trip to Virginia in High School, the bus driver listened to the CB all the way down. I remember hearing the truckers sing some very bawdy songs... -Curt From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 6,

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I have heard some great jokes on the CB, late at night, from truckers out in the middle of nowhere. Of course, they might not be Approved for All Audiences... --R On 10/6/14 1:01 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Yes, the truckers call out all the speed traps, accidents, construction, etc

Re: [MBZ] We are ***!!

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Don't we have a list for that kind of behavior? Go play games over there. -Curt Who has refrained from talking about the metalwork he did yesterday on the Jetta to keep things "on topic". From: Mountain Man via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Mon

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm seeing it too, rando m s paces when Andrew writes SL C. -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes To: Mercedes ; Craig McCluskey Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD Must be your end Craig, Andrew's emails look fi

[MBZ] We are ***!!

2014-10-06 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > I totally agree with the "we are all adults here" Thanks, mom - but ***-off. If we are adults here, let us kill each other. I agree with Gerry - ban me also, if you will. ma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, the truckers call out all the speed traps, accidents, construction, etc. Also, if one is hogging the left lane and taking ten minutes to pass another truck going just .5 mph slower, you can mimic as another truck and request him or her to hurry it up and let you by. Max Dillon, Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Must be your end Craig, Andrew's emails look fine too me. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content (Dan Penoff)

2014-10-06 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
I've been away for a few years, so am wondering what ever happened to the Ritter/Easley List? AST CL500 300E From: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content Date: October 6, 2014 8:16:24 AM PDT To: Mercedes List Dan, who was one of the original members of the mbz.org lists and a fou

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 11:57:03 -0400 Rich Thomas wrote: > Just buy some of those little hand-held radios, they are cheap and some > have quite good range, certainly enough for car-car. Then you don't > have the hassle of installs and all that. I have seen them at El > Mercado de Wal and outdoo

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 06 Oct 2014 20:08:20 +0400 astrasfogel--- via Mercedes wrote: > > I bought a 78 SL C for cheap that had several broken linkage  bushings. ^ | Why the space? --| I've noticed it on other emails, too. Craig ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? We do, when caravanning. I acquired (via thrift shop over time) four Uniden 510XL (?) and magnetic antennae. They're a bit large and clunky, but they work well and have good range, and are loud enough that the whole car can hear. Cigarette lighter powe

Re: [MBZ] new fix on new/old TD

2014-10-06 Thread astrasfogel--- via Mercedes
I bought a 78 SL C for cheap that had several broken linkage  bushings. Very poky-  top speed was 45 mph IIRC. .. -- Sent from myMail app for Android Monday, 06 October 2014, 07:34AM -0400 from MG via Mercedes : Having that linkage break while driving would not be my favorite thing in the world.

Re: [MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Just buy some of those little hand-held radios, they are cheap and some have quite good range, certainly enough for car-car. Then you don't have the hassle of installs and all that. I have seen them at El Mercado de Wal and outdoor/sports shops. --R On 10/6/14 11:47 AM, Craig via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Someone in IL needs this 116

2014-10-06 Thread astrasfogel--- via Mercedes
They were never badged as "450SE L 6,9". Just 6.9 on lower right corner of trunk lid,  sometimes with 450 SE L as well on the left corner -- Sent from myMail app for Android Saturday, 04 October 2014, 04:56PM -0400 from Peter Frederick via Mercedes : Exactly.  The car is a 450SEL (long wheel bas

[MBZ] OT: CB Radios

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Does anyone still use CB radios anymore? I was thinking about our planned caravan to Indiana with three vehicles (me driving our Big Red Van [BRV (tm)] towing our utility trailer, Shirley driving our E320, and my brother driving a rental truck towing our 240D/3.0), and realized that cell phones wo

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Really? I figure any junk asian car you buy today to last 200,000 miles at LEAST. The rust prevention is better and the electronics are all vastly more robust even if they are black box type. Purportedly the average age of today's fleet is 11 years. Looking just at Toyota Tundra pickups I'd bel

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Expect to see that attitude get worse. I believe we've already experienced the service longevity peak, and that the mileage expectation

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I did a run from San Francisco to Tampa in 1998 in my 300SD, a couple of days running almost non-stop for probably 15 hours or more. The car never missed a beat. I would do the same in any of my current cars, even though they are vergassers. Two of them have over 266k on them. Dan Sent from

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
pics of the beast plzz -- On 10/6/14 10:47 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: All sarcasm accepted... I've certainly taken some lately for taking on this project... ;))) If you truly want to find out who your friends are.. buy a 40ft. Mercedes motor coach and ask them to "help you work on it"..

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There is no censoring on this list. If a user isn't moderated their posts go right to the list. I totally agree with the "we are all adults here", however, it was clear from the beginning that people were getting riled up on the subject. While we do a fairly good job of moderating ourselves, I

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
In '98 I did a 6000 mile summer trip in my 1980 300D. I also took my '77 240D on a 3100 mile summer jaunt in '08 or '09. People thought I was nuts each time. Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscr

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Would have to figure out an "in flight" refueling system (for both car and crew), dual controls to make crew rotation easier, "waste" disposal, and probably a dry sump engine design to facilitate oil changes, using a dual tank design so the off-duty tank of old oil could be emptied and refilled wit

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's what I would figure. It's all in the lines just to traverse the coach. That's a lot of volume. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > I think you missed Mr. Cathey's sarcasm. :) > > Some of the big capacity must be for bringing the system to the f

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 07:13:58 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. > > Tell 'em it takes a few years to rack up the > million miles or so they are capable of. Only > so many driving hours in a day... At 50 mph, 24x7x365 that wo

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
So enquiring minds what to know, how big an engine? I'm going to guess 10l diesel pusher. Pictures, the snowmobile guys always say "Indy loves pics!" -Curt From: G Mann To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Monday, October 6, 2014 10:47 AM Subj

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
All sarcasm accepted... I've certainly taken some lately for taking on this project... ;))) If you truly want to find out who your friends are.. buy a 40ft. Mercedes motor coach and ask them to "help you work on it".. hahaha.. Oil thread anyone.. it holds 28 quarts.. Coolant.. 33 gallons .. Trans

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I think you missed Mr. Cathey's sarcasm. :) Some of the big capacity must be for bringing the system to the front of a motor coach, those lines are long. Still 42# seems like a lot, 42oz would be almost 3#, 42# is around 10 gallons of propane... -Curt From: D

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Current quotes on 42 lbs. of R12 are running in the $3000+ range.. so.. I like your comment of charging the system with nitrogen first. The vehicle came with a full set of huge AC vac pumps and filters to charge the system.. package deal. And yes, I did both a double take.. and a double check.. it

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wasn't there some concern that the BBQ tank gas weren't dry enough for this kind of job? I'd presume a 42 lb system would have a pretty dammed significant dryer though. You want to talk chance of fire, I'm not sure how excited I'd be to drive around with 10+ gallons of high pressure hydrocarbon

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That's what nitrogen is good for. Pull it down with a vacuum, charge it to 200 PSI with nitrogen, then see if it leaks down. Dye would be handy here, too. Are you sure it's 42 pounds? That seems like a lot. I would suspect that 42 pounds of R13 would cost a small fortune, however, I don't think

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The R12 charge for my "new Mercedes" is 42 lbs. Thus, I have "skin in this game" because the system is currently empty and purged, needing refill. This system sounds like it needs thorough testing before you subject the world to a potential leak of that magnitude! :-) I believe a decade or so

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300td travel

2014-10-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Its fun to tell non-believers about a long trip in an older car. Tell 'em it takes a few years to rack up the million miles or so they are capable of. Only so many driving hours in a day... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:/

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
There you go... global warming issues linked to Mercedes content... Well now.. First "social comment" . I believe recent studies of the ozone layer have shown the removal of R12 from use has had little effect on the ozone layer, if any. Leading to the likely conclusion that bad science was the caus

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Kaleb, Any tips or tricks when adding the hydrocarbon stuff? Did you pull a vacuum prior to putting it in, or top up the system? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] [ADMIN] List Content

2014-10-06 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Without dragging this on any further, just let me say that Kalebs method of running a list which assumed that list members were mature adults who could use their delete key if they disliked a submission, and your method which requires that each member must avoid any subject that "he guesses" mi

Re: [MBZ] The White Whale - soon to be sighted in the CHS area again

2014-10-06 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Oct 4, 2014 9:06 AM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > > Mark Blevins in Columbia SC offers > injector cleaning/testing/balancing for $20 per injector; he found that two > of the injector bodies were cracked, so I had to source two more used Bummer, sorry about that. If you want your non-i

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The hydrocarbon refrigerants work great and are perfectly safe. I just don't use them anymore because I have both an r12 and a r134 machine. I also have another r12 machine and a dual 12/134 machine I need to sell. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 6, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wr

Re: [MBZ] R-12 versus R-134

2014-10-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Last week when I installed the new condenser in The White Whale (R-12 system converted by PO), I charged the system with just one can of R-134, and to my pleasant surprise that was enough pressure for the system to work and blow cool air. Temps here don't really require AC now, so I'll probably le

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