Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Don wrote: > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. > I'm not sure that is safe to be on the highway! Only dangerous if you try to drive it like a "high powered" car. It's faster than a school bus, faster than a loaded truck from 10 to 18+ wheels. Why, it's faster than most fire

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The 380 will be somewhat underpowered and will not get very good mileage. I must disagree. Mine did not feel underpowered, and it got decent enough mileage. (For a 107, none of them get particularly good mileage!) Some of mine were as bad as 14-ish mpg, but my Dad took it on some looong highw

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
240Ds thankfully are all manual heater/AC.  All other US models got ACC crap, dictated by MomBNA.  The MBNA bowties disliked those who bought Diesels, and especially 240Ds, but the Diesels were so popular, they didn't dare PO all those customers.   The beancounters overruled the bowties in this

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I really like the painted caps and steel wheels. However, it would make it look like a 240. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 9:39 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: > > So Bundt uglies? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 10:23 PM Don Sno

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
So Bundt uglies? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 10:23 PM Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > I know the wheels are wrong and they are ugly. If I keep the car I will > definitely change them. And it’s a 300D. I was asking about the 240D as a > possible replacement. > > Donald H

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I know the wheels are wrong and they are ugly. If I keep the car I will definitely change them. And it’s a 300D. I was asking about the 240D as a possible replacement. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Those pics make i

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
No. Definitely not Okie Acres. Thinking of spending a little more for my show car. So, maybe the 240D would be better. Also considering the 107. Only want one old car! Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 6:07 PM, Kaleb Striplin wrote: > > Are you trying t

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 20:26:23 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Most 240Ds I've seen have 'Lektrick windows.   Most 240Ds ordered by > the customer had crank windows, and more so early years (Often 4 > spd). Ones put on stealer lots by MBNA were all auto trans and > "Lektrick winders. (and

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Most 240Ds I've seen have 'Lektrick windows.   Most 240Ds ordered by the customer had crank windows, and more so early years (Often 4 spd).   Ones put on stealer lots by MBNA were all auto trans and "Lektrick winders. (and sunroof) Craig via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 1:45 PM: On Mon, 7 Oct 20

Re: [MBZ] OT for you aviation buffs

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Mucho BS, not much for facts. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 1:01 PM: focused their efforts on building hybrid vehicles. Startups such as Zunum ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Some 83s came out of the factory with dual row, early ones did not.  Best way to find out for sure is to look.   upper prastic chain guides break, leading to broken timing chain and bent valves, etc.  They SHOULD have been replaced by now.   The ones Q got for me were alum with composite face.

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
My '81 had crank windows and a manual sunroof. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 7:09 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My 79 had sunroof but crank windows. > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 4:27 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> w

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I would posit that the trim was damaged during removal last time the windshield was replaced, hence it's absence today. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:41 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In order to get the trim in the windshield will need to be removed again > and the s

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
My 79 had sunroof but crank windows. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 4:27 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not all 240Ds had crank windows. My (Dwight's) '78 had 'em, my '83 had > electric.I wonder if electric windows and a sunroof always went tog

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Needs,steelies with paint matching caps. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Mon, Oct 7, 2019, 5:02 PM Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > Apparently I included one wrong pic of the car. They are the same on both > sides. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To se

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Not dangerous but challenging. I commuted 140 miles a day 2 or 3 days a week for 4 years in my 79 240D automatic, much of it on I95 south of Boston. First thing is to chant "Gravity is my friend" & drive it like a bicycle. I described mine as a great middle lane car-~75 mph. I had 2 scary uphill

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
In order to get the trim in the windshield will need to be removed again and the seal replaced again. The trim is installed on the gasket before it’s installed on the windshield Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes. It has a new windsh

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Those wheels are so wrong on so many levels. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here are some pics (as requested) of my 123. These were taken when I picked > it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
My father had an '83 240D, it was actually decent in my opinion. Not the fastest car on the road, but more than adequate, as long as you weren't in a big hurry. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

[MBZ] OT which email client for Android?

2019-10-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Looking for a new email client. Tell me your favorites! I've got six different email accounts, couple are Gmail and the rest are POP from AT&T. Have to access them all with one client. I need dark (night) mode. Black background, white text, at all times for all methods of use. No ads, I'll

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Are you trying to start Okie Acres Memphis? You can’t assume the chain has been converted unless there are receipts or you pull a valve cover. The 380 will be somewhat underpowered and will not get very good mileage. You should be able to fit it but it will sit lower to the ground Sent from m

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Those pics make it more obvious. The offset appears to be too much. IIRC, W123s had offsets from ET28 to ET36, most around 28-30. Looks like your 240D came with 30 offset. Are those wheels closer to 40? Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Need to make sure it has double row timing chain. Price is on the spot for a #4 example. There are a few niggling issues all over, with paint, interior, engine, and controls that will benefit with many hours of attention to details. The car is a driver, but will take around $20k investment to

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s the R129 as well. To this day I don’t understand why the wife still likes that car after having both of her hips replaced. It’s a complete PITA to get in and out of, especially of you can’t open the door to the full travel. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 5:34 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes > w

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The 107 is a short legged persons car. As we age, gravity begins to defeat your ability to spring jauntily out of the driver seat. If you are an athletic fellow in full midlife crisis mode, entering and exiting the SL is not a chore. For an old fart out of shape guy, you want to stay in the

Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
DO NOT SAND BLAST the wheels are cast, soft, and have voids that will be exposed under that intense abrasive action. Soda blasting is about as vigorous as I would attempt. Best to completely wash and remove the old finish by hand with a chemical stripper or sanding paper. Get it fresh and sm

Re: [MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Much better! Go back and ask to have your trophy upgraded to Silver. Randy On 07/10/2019 4:00 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: Apparently I included one wrong pic of the car. They are the same on both sides. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

[MBZ] Wheel pics

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
Apparently I included one wrong pic of the car. They are the same on both sides. Donald H. Snook FedEx Freight Sent from my iPhone___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery op

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Yes, but  . . . . I believe Curt has also commented on the age and rustiness of the vehicle at times. I should think 85 mph should be fast enough in traffic in a car of questionable structural integrity. Randy On 07/10/2019 3:33 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I believe he was dr

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Randy, I believe he was driving in Boston traffic, where that is far from the top speed on the interstate… -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >> I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. Whe

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
It was a secret message though --FT On 10/7/19 3:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: You could have just sent him a private message. Two different personal emails are in his recent message headers. Randy On 07/10/2019 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Don, I will have a spa

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Some days I was leading the pack, some days I was mid pack, some days I had to move over into the center lane... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 4:19:38 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >  I can confirm 86mph as the to

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
$2,000 for anything that runs and drives in good cosmetic shape is a pretty good deal these days... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 2:58:00 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Two grand for a solid W123 in good cosmetic shape is a deal. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Don Snoo

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Not all 240Ds had crank windows. My (Dwight's) '78 had 'em, my '83 had electric.I wonder if electric windows and a sunroof always went together, my '83 had both, the '78 had neither. -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 2:49:18 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:24:

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I had a Mustang rental once, it'd have been 2010 or so. I'd been on the road for 3 weeks and Angie had flown out to meet me. We were in San Francisco of all places to get that car.My big rolling bag wouldn't fit in the trunk and the seats didn't give ample space to get it in the back seat. So I

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/10/2019 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section...

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I can confirm 86mph as the top speed of a 240D. When I was commuting in a 240D there was a 15 mile stretch of highway where I'd put 'er in the left lane with my right foot on floor and leave it there at 85. No hills in that section... -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 12:30:23 PM EDT, Dan-

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
You could have just sent him a private message. Two different personal emails are in his recent message headers. Randy On 07/10/2019 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Don, I will have a spare set of 14" alloy wheels from my 1983 300TD in the next couple weeks when I swap out the t

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Don, I will have a spare set of 14" alloy wheels from my 1983 300TD in the next couple weeks when I swap out the tires. You could acquire these wheels for a very reasonable price. Let me know privately if interested. Andrew On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 3:09 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okie

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Don, how many classics are you intent on purchasing? Leave some for the rest of us! On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:57 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Two grand for a solid W123 in good cosmetic shape is a deal. > > -D > > > On Oct 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Don Snook via Mercede

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
OMG, you're right. He definitely bought that from a facebooker. 5 holes on the right, 5 spokes on the left, and probably none of them within 20mm of the right offset. Mitch. > On October 7, 2019 at 2:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Those wheels look different right to left? _

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The wheels do appear to be different between the left and right sides. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:56 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here are some pics (as requested) of my 123. These were taken when I picked > it up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Donald H. Snook > >

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Two grand for a solid W123 in good cosmetic shape is a deal. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > Ok you all have convinced me that a 240D isn't quite as dangerous to drive > as I thought. So, how about pricing? I know it is very difficult to say > without se

Re: [MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 18:24:16 + Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > Ok you all have convinced me that a 240D isn't quite as dangerous to > drive as I thought. So, how about pricing? I know it is very difficult > to say without seeing it in person and knowing some history. But, here > is what I do

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
A little gold or silver paint on the trophy and proudly put it on the mantel. Gerry > Now that's funny, especially the part where 123 cars took bronze or silver, > but the 123 wasn't one of them. > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list a

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 14:11:01 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > Those wheels look different right to left? Yes, they are different right vs. left. It is possible the offset (ET value) of the different rims are different, too. You need to look at the specs for all of the different types o

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
That blows. The trim goes in before the windshield is put in. Oops. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 7, 2019 1:30 PM To: jim.cathey...@gmail.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: dhsn...@gmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics Yes. It has a new windshield an

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I think that color is "Creamsicle". Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Monday, October 07, 2019 11:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Donald Snook Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 Pi

Re: [MBZ] Got the $600E320 buttoned up -- BATTERY + AA Coupon

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 09:36:43 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > I used some brake cleaner as someone mentioned, it got it pretty shiny > with some wire brushing, then I went at it with some coarse sandpaper > and that got most of the crust off so it looked pretty good. Like Grant said, u

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 10:33:06 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest > vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I > learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. > > Our W115 200D (

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Yes. It has a new windshield and no trim. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > The windshield trim is missing. > > -- Jim > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscri

[MBZ] 82 240D pricing

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
Ok you all have convinced me that a 240D isn't quite as dangerous to drive as I thought. So, how about pricing? I know it is very difficult to say without seeing it in person and knowing some history. But, here is what I do know. Everything works - including the a/c. It has 221,000 miles. It

Re: [MBZ] Mildly interested in this 07 ML320

2019-10-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > I wouldn't expect it to be rusty as the pictures are clean. My Frontier could look that good in pictures, if I didn't show any views of the undercarriage. Taking the advice to look farther south is probably what I will do. Allan ___

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The windshield trim is missing. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Those wheels look different right to left? --FT On 10/7/19 2:05 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Those wheels could drop your trophy to bronze all by themselves. When you said 5 hole I was thinking they might be W210 offset, but I can't tell from the pics. Can you read the specs on a wheel?

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Manila Beige. 681 Donald H. Snook > On Oct 7, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > You may have mentioned this - but is that Maple Yellow? Or better yet what > is the color code? I like it! > >> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:56 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Here are som

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You could always mix and match parts between the 240D and the 300D to get the car you want --- best engine/tranny in the best body. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? > > On Mon, Oct

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Those wheels could drop your trophy to bronze all by themselves. When you said 5 hole I was thinking they might be W210 offset, but I can't tell from the pics. Can you read the specs on a wheel? What's the offset? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search l

Re: [MBZ] 123 Pics

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You may have mentioned this - but is that Maple Yellow? Or better yet what is the color code? I like it! On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:56 PM Donald Snook via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Here are some pics (as requested) of my 123. These were taken when I > picked it up. > > > > > > >

[MBZ] OT for you aviation buffs

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
NASA begins testing on all-electric airplane Published: Monday, October 7, 2019[image: NASA electric plane. Photo credit: NASA] NASA's X-57 Maxwell, the agency's first all-electric X-plane, is delivered to the Armstrong Flight Research Center in Edwards, Calif. NASA NASA's first all-electric ai

Re: [MBZ] Nice 240D

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sienna interior. I owned an anthracite NA 1980 300D with that color interior. VERY attractive! $12,500 all day long. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 9:48 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why? Thats way more than a $2,000 car... > -Curt > > On Sunday, October 6, 2019,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dimitri LOVES his 240D - where is his valuable inut? On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:35 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway > ramp. > The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. > The semis do all right. >

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Now that's funny, especially the part where 123 cars took bronze or silver, but the 123 wasn't one of them. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mai

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
A 240D can handily outrun a 80klb semi, even a 600hp semi, on a freeway ramp. The semi needs a bigger hole to merge into. The semis do all right. But, when drivers see a semi crawling up ahead, they know instantly that they want to move to the left lane. You could always use the two bottle meth

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
The 240D automatic we had for a short time was just about the slowest vehicle I've ever driven, even a bit slower than the 1960 Falcon I learned to drive in. It takes a different mindset, that's for sure. Our W115 200D (manny) kicked its ass, and though it had _less_ horsepower it was infinitely

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I think a 280SL (Euro) is faster than a 380. Now, swap in a 560 engine, and > you'd have a nice car Take a quick spin in the 240D automatic first, then the 380SL will seem great! They're not slow, in other words, they're just not as quick as a 560. And they take regular gas. I loved mine. --

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Later 380's had double-row chains from the factory. 1983? You can look in the oil filler hole to see, I think. (Not easy, but possible.) I bought my 560SL from a self-proclaimed 'old fat man'. He'd always wanted one of these, then found he wasn't comfortable in it. You'll just have to try it

Re: [MBZ] Bargain W111 Coupe

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
That last picture is a four door sedan --- not nearly as cool! On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:11 PM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Be sure to look at the last picture. > > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1963-mercedes-benz-220se-coupe/6994524726.html > > -D > ___

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I never noticed an issue getting in and out of the 450SLC, but I'm only 6 ft. and was pushing 200 at the time. The only issues I can think of is whether the ACC works (I hated messing with the vacuum pods under the dash), the timing chain (but you have that figured out already), and the fact that i

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Kaleb said - you'll be a better driver. You'll learn energy management, timing, and planning. It makes a GREAT first car for a new driver - safest thing you could but him/her in. No impulsive hot-rodding and showing off, very safe chassis with decent mass, etc. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:12 PM

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
And as to other drivers, they'll deal, they'll slow down or move over. They might talk big but thats just talk. -Curt On Monday, October 7, 2019, 11:57:32 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these.

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have driven one as a daily in the past. You just have to get used to it and it’s fine. It makes you a much better driver because you have to plan ahead. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:43 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K mile

[MBZ] Bargain W111 Coupe

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Be sure to look at the last picture. https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1963-mercedes-benz-220se-coupe/6994524726.html -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
And don’t forget to leave one of your turn signals on all the time... you could also get a pair of the wrap-around cataract sunglasses to wear, too. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:52 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh > an

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
Correction. It’s an 82. Donald H. Snook > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Don Snook wrote: > > 1983 $4200 > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Andrew Strasfogel > Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 11:41 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Buy it, then buy a blue hair wig, and only drive in the left lane... Ohh and some good ear plugs so you won't be bothered by all the angry honking.. you'll be good... :))) Plan to leave early for appointments... On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:44 AM Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: > I found an 82 240D a

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
1983 $4200 Don Snook -Original Message- From: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 11:41 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question Price and year both matter. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> w

Re: [MBZ] 1985 MERCEDES-BENZ 300-CLASS 380 SL

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The back trunk lid lspoiler looks hideous on an otherwise presentable red car On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 10:52 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/ctd/d/little-river-1985-mercedes-benz-300/6993301016.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I rented one of those stupid pony cars in 1991 with a v8. (because it was the only thing available that day.)  I could not get either a small toolbox or a 4 cyl diesel head in the trunk. (OM 615/616)  I believe a 115 or 123 NA 300D could have run circles about it.  It was awful.  That or frod p

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You need to inform us of the PRICE and the model year to get better feedback. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control > came in etc. They were detuned to the point that the

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I think we need to see photos of your car. Randy On 07/10/2019 10:30 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: I took my old $1000 123 to the car show this weekend. I came away an award winner! But, I did discover that everyone who entered and paid the entry fee got an award. It did include a f

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Don is a fair bit younger than you and I if I remember correctly, so he may not mind quite so much. I concur with you. I don't like getting in and especially out of low cars. I mostly drive the F150 where I have to climb in and out of it and I prefer that to essentially rolling out onto my hands

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Price and year both matter. On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:36 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What year? it matters. > > I think sitting on the pavement, and getting up from a seated position > on the pavement will get old quick. there is very little space to get > l

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You're a winner in my book! On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 12:15 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Marketing 101... > > Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 10:30 AM: > > I took my old $1000 123 to the car show this weekend. I came away an > award winner! > > > > But,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
No worse than a lot of the cars back in the 70's when pollution control came in etc. They were detuned to the point that they could hardly move. I remember driving a Mustang II with a 4 cylinder engine as a loaner from the dealership. A 240D would have run circles around it. Randy On 07/10/20

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
What year?  it matters. I think sitting on the pavement, and getting up from a seated position on the pavement will get old quick.   there is very little space to get long legs in and out behind the door hinge area.   #1 Daughter has had one for years.   I am not near as tall as you, and I hat

Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Roger, Astral Gray was a primary body color for Mercedes in the 70s. While it might have been the same color as the wheels, Würth refers to it a “silver wheel paint”. At least that’s been my experience. Switch to ceramic brake pads and your dust will be minimal. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 12:15

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
My former message was a bit cryptic as I was trying to compose it quickly at a red light... As others have stated, while the performance or lack thereof of this configuration of the 240D is minimal, driving one configured this way merely requires the driver to become more tactical in their driv

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I'd always get irritated because the buttercups from town would drive 25 (in 45 or 55 zone) (used to be 70) outside of town, especially after dark, then when they got to where the streetlights were in town, they'd go 45 in a 25 zone.    THey just could not comprehend driving without street ligh

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I never tried timing it to 70, but that is probably about right.   A 240D was never meant to be a freeway flyer.   An 87 300D or newer is much better for that.   You have to think like you are driving a truck in the 40s-60s.   We drove trucks with chevy 6 cylinder gassers.   You don't ever pass

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread MG via Mercedes
How can that be dangerous? I am very often behind people who take a quarter to a half of a mile to get up to 60 when getting onto a highway. None of them were ever driving a 240D. Don Snook via Mercedes wrote: I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good pai

Re: [MBZ] Painting my alloy wheels.

2019-10-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I may switch to carbon black so I don't have to fret about cleaning off the brake dust. ;) On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 4:44 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dan, > >I thought they used to call this Worth astral grey...or am I > thinking of something else. The mind

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Marketing 101... Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote on 10/7/19 10:30 AM: I took my old $1000 123 to the car show this weekend. I came away an award winner! But, I did discover that everyone who entered and paid the entry fee got an award. It did include a framed photo of the car. I got a “bro

Re: [MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Participation trophy, snowflake! --FT On 10/7/19 11:30 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: I took my old $1000 123 to the car show this weekend. I came away an award winner! But, I did discover that everyone who entered and paid the entry fee got an award. It did include a framed photo of

Re: [MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'm 6'4" 185 or so and drove my buddy's 450SL and found it a bit tight, but I fit.  Was not real comfortable on a long drive.  My 129 SL600 is also pretty tight but I fit.  I am guessing you would be OK but might not want to go on a long trip. --FT On 10/7/19 11:56 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes

[MBZ] 107 SL question

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I found a triple black 380SL with 123K miles. It has soft top and hard top. Seller claims "everything works as it should." Also says it is a one owner car "with all paperwork and receipts." So, assuming this is all true, I think it seems save to say the timing chain has been changed to the

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Just have to learn to drive it. It’s a totally different mindset driving one of these. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Donald, > > These are common issues well known issues for this car. > > -D > >> On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44 AM,

Re: [MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Donald, These are common issues well known issues for this car. -D > On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:44 AM, Don Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and > good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up > t

[MBZ] 240D Question: Dangerous?

2019-10-07 Thread Don Snook via Mercedes
I found an 82 240D automatic nearby with 211K miles. Has working a/c and good paint and interior. No rust. Everything works. But, I was looking up the specs on it. These cars have 67 HP (yes that is right, 67 horsepower). Top Speed 86 mph (this is a factory claim. I couldn't find anyone

[MBZ] It’s a Major Award!

2019-10-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I took my old $1000 123 to the car show this weekend. I came away an award winner! But, I did discover that everyone who entered and paid the entry fee got an award. It did include a framed photo of the car. I got a “bronze award.” Unfortunately there were 125 cars in the show. And 123 of

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