Re: [MBZ] OT: A contrarian view on COVID-19, plus good news - there's a CURE!

2020-03-19 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Karl, thanks for your reports. This reminds me of battle where the command staff has to make sense of multiple, incomplete, incoherent, and conflicting, reports from the front. Cost of error is high. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Assuming a person has a normal immune system, a person should be immune for a period of months. This supposition is based on the nature of somewhat similar virus diseases. A university prof virologist, says the difficulty of making assumptions about this virus is that it has the characteristics

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
No, gin and hydroxychloroquine. Gerry > So, I should increase intake of Gin and Tonic? > > I wonder if Schweppes still uses original recipe in their tonic > > clay > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bu

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Umm - immunity to the common cold, another corona virus, doesn't work. There's no real reason to think that this corona virus will let you build immunity to it either. All it has to do is morph, change, evolve a bit, and off it goes. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:35 PM archer75--- via Mercedes < merc

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Worldwide we should already be building up a population of cured and immune workers who can go back to work in perfect safety and gradually get cities and towns back on a functional basis; the first item being the restoration of the medical system to the point where both coronavirus patients, an

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
So, I should increase intake of Gin and Tonic? I wonder if Schweppes still uses original recipe in their tonic clay > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:16 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bullet that controls the > coronavirus epidemic, it will be

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Because the press is overly fond of sharing the data, I am able to keep track of the hotbed of US infection on an hourly basis, even though I no longer live in WA. Latest figure had 74 deaths out of 1376 confirmed infected. That seems consistent with the figure stated below. There was a 10% f

Re: [MBZ] OT: A contrarian view on COVID-19, plus good news - there's a CURE!

2020-03-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Every medical center treating these patients, including ours, is using hydroxychloroquine. It is an old and well known drug. Not a cure by any means. We hope it helps. The epideliologic evidence is extremely poor quality; I will give him that. But the lack of high quality evidence applies to his

[MBZ] Fwd: Wuhan Flu: An Update from Mayo Clinic

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
*From:* Mayo Clinic, Evanthia Galanis, M.D. *Date:* March 19, 2020 at 10:19 PM *To:* *Subject:* Wuhan Flu: An Update from Mayo Clinic Thank you for your continued trust in Mayo Clinic. If you are having trouble reading this email,read the online version

Re: [MBZ] I guess they are worth more than $17k these days?

2020-03-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 21:07:40 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > wunnerful car if you have the M100 handshake. > > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 8:00 PM: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-6-3/202940218373?hash=item2f402dfc05:g:sUcAAOSwZPVec9Vu

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
The Brits in India were on to something with the gin & tonic. I shall be practicing prophylaxis tomorrow evening. This isolation is tough but I’m going to try. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:17 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > If chloroquine does prove to be the mag

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL

2020-03-19 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
A local mech has a 300SD maybe 3-4 yr ago sitting in his yard for awhile. I stopped by one day, the car was in excellent condition, gold color light interior, but he thought head was cracked. He wanted like $1200 for it. I knew there was an engine in a junkyard in a wrecked car probably with a g

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL

2020-03-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Just the glov3e dept door. That will pound out. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 10:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why is the dash bashed in? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@ok

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL

2020-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Why is the dash bashed in? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2020, at 9:06 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Don’t see these every day. > > Bob R > > > 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/7089059757.html > > Please go to the prefe

Re: [MBZ] I guess they are worth more than $17k these days?

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
wunnerful car if you have the M100 handshake. Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 8:00 PM: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-6-3/202940218373?hash=item2f402dfc05:g:sUcAAOSwZPVec9Vu I remember one for sale in Tulsa in the mid to late 90's that was like new

[MBZ] FW: 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL

2020-03-19 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Don’t see these every day. Bob R 1993 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY CLASS TURBO DIESEL https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/7089059757.html Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive email-a-friend messages in the future. ___ http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] I guess they are worth more than $17k these days?

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wonder if that is the factory color. It looks vaguely off, and also quite unattractive. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 9:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-6-3/202940218373?hash=item2f402dfc05:g:sUcAAOSwZPVe

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Why you wasting bandwith on that ?    Izzat one of the brady bunch?  never watched that on tv. Crappy then, crappy now. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 3:23 PM: Did you run into Tom Brady shopping for his Maybach? ___ http://www.okiebenz.c

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Has anyone tried that compressed coir from coconut husk as a seed starting medium? I tried it a few years back, and it was messy and not particularly effective but other gardeners swear by it. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 8:05 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > You know, all those gardeners who have to st

Re: [MBZ] OT: A contrarian view on COVID-19, plus good news - there's a CURE!

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That was a sobering statement, even if proven wrong in some details. I'm going to be a lot more careful from now on. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 5:54 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > FWIW > > I presume this is accurate, from a coupla days ago, tracks with I am > told by

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
If chloroquine does prove to be the magic bullet that controls the coronavirus epidemic, it will be a remarkable coincidence since the organism it has been killing for 70+ years; a protzoan; is completely unrelated to the virus that causes coronavirus infection. That's based on current knowledge

[MBZ] Rolling coal

2020-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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[MBZ] I guess they are worth more than $17k these days?

2020-03-19 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-300SEL-6-3/202940218373?hash=item2f402dfc05:g:sUcAAOSwZPVec9Vu I remember one for sale in Tulsa in the mid to late 90's that was like new that was for sale for around $8k or so. ___ http://www.okiebenz.

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
What a bad ass car if you can get it sorted. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Top 5 money pit of all time? > > Bob R > > > 1996 Mercedes S600 V12 > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/7093239338.html > > Please go to the preferen

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Right after all the rollers, Italian supercars, bentknees, may baches... Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 9:37 AM: Top 5 money pit of all time? Bob R 1996 Mercedes S600 V12 https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/7093239338.html ___ http://www.

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I heard that on the radio today.  THey said countries where Malaria is rampant, and Chloroquine is widely used, there is no or almost no wuhan virus. Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 11:51 AM: Chloroquine is being expedited as a treatment. It has worked in South Korea, and France. The

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
You know, all those gardeners who have to stay home now ... On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:59 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > There’s a run on vermiculite? > > -D > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > I bought the last two bags of vermicu

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
It's good for storing bodies if no refrigerators are available. Max Dillon Charleston SC Mar 19, 2020 7:59:18 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes : > There’s a run on vermiculite? > > -D > > > > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > I bought the last two bags of vermi

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There’s a run on vermiculite? -D > On Mar 19, 2020, at 5:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > I bought the last two bags of vermiculite at the garden supply today, and > saw no-alcohol fuel at $1.599 on the way home. I need to empty the 55 > gallon drum and go fill it with cheap fuel for th

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Parts!  Transplant that lump into a 124!  Move over 500E! --FT On 3/19/20 4:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: There won't be a title. The guy who had the car is at least 6 residents back. RB On 19/03/2020 3:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Note the car is parked next to a trailer hou

Re: [MBZ] OT: A contrarian view on COVID-19, plus good news - there's a CURE!

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
FWIW I presume this is accurate, from a coupla days ago, tracks with I am told by Dr. Boy,  YMMV: Public From one of the doctors here at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Dr. Julie Silver and her friend Dr. Reem Ghalib. Please read the whole thing, it is an important summary about COVID19, flatt

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I bought the last two bags of vermiculite at the garden supply today, and saw no-alcohol fuel at $1.599 on the way home. I need to empty the 55 gallon drum and go fill it with cheap fuel for the airplane (and anything else here). On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:00 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mer

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No, but he will insist that his personal football deflator is on the payroll. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 4:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Raymond James Stadium *is* right across the street from the > stealership…and One Buc Place (Bucs HQ) is just a block away. > > I

[MBZ] OT: A contrarian view on COVID-19, plus good news - there's a CURE!

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
First the good new: Cure? https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/old-malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine-may-help-cure-coronavirus-study/ Next the contrarian. https://www.thecollegefix.com/stanford-epidemiologist-warns-that-coronavirus-crackdown-is-based-on-bad-data/ "A population-wide case fatality rate of

Re: [MBZ] 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 $2,630 manifold issue?

2020-03-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
IIRC a friend of mine found them online. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:09 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dwight inquires: > > >Didn't this year 350 have balance shaft issues? > > Depends on the production number. > There's a website to l

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Raymond James Stadium *is* right across the street from the stealership…and One Buc Place (Bucs HQ) is just a block away. I was thinking they would have one of those giant 6 story tall graphics on the back of the scoreboard shortly, once it’s announced. But - will he attempt to steal lobstahs f

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
There won't be a title. The guy who had the car is at least 6 residents back. RB On 19/03/2020 3:03 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Note the car is parked next to a trailer house... something special about a V12 Merc parked at a trailer with "engine problems" Could be up on concrete blocks

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*Swung by the MB dealership around 7:00 am* Did you run into Tom Brady shopping for his Maybach? On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I went to our local farmer’s market at 4:30 this morning. Understand that > this is a commercial marketplace,

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Note the car is parked next to a trailer house... something special about a V12 Merc parked at a trailer with "engine problems" Could be up on concrete blocks with the wheels off... I guess. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:34 AM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:15:01 -0400 Floyd

Re: [MBZ] OT Covid Charlie Foxtrot

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Typical, let the feds run it and it takes too long, is too expensive, and in the end doesn't even work right. Maybe one good outcome of this 'crisis' is a dramatic change in law and regulation to unshackle private enterprises for producing such tests. If I were Prez, I'd try to ram that through C

Re: [MBZ] 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 $2,630 manifold issue?

2020-03-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Dwight inquires: >Didn't this year 350 have balance shaft issues? Depends on the production number. There's a website to look it up, or I would think a dealer can run the VIN and see. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I went to our local farmer’s market at 4:30 this morning. Understand that this is a commercial marketplace, so the customers are mostly restaurants and places that use large volumes of produce and other goodies. They allow retail customers in after 4:30 am when the restauranteurs are all pretty

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh that reminds me, my favorite coffee emporium is doing outside service only. It was actually kind of fun to stand on the sidewalk and wait. They're no contact, pay by card only. Our grocery stores also have senior hours, I think its like 6a-8a or something like that. Probably the most sensibl

Re: [MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The local Costco has put 8A-9A as 60+ shopping but by state law the likka sto can't open until 10A.  Gotta get Gubnah Foghorn on that, issue an emergency order... -_FT On 3/19/20 2:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Angie and I went up to Keene today for some supplies. I figured the Co-o

[MBZ] OT Covid Charlie Foxtrot

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Two independent opinions -- one a friend, a professor of immunology at the local kawlidge, and the Dr. Boy, both say this whole thing is a total Charlie Foxtrot re: testing and such. "The FDA/CDC test is 5 genes by RT-PCR. Not sure why on earth this method is the go too. could not borrow

[MBZ] COVID Mortality rates

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w Interesting article on the mortality rates for COVID in the US. >85 years old - 10-27% which is quite a spread64-85 - 3-11%55-64 - 1-3%20-54 - ><1%19 and younger - 0% no deaths. Unfortunately there is no data on underlying heath

[MBZ] Supply run

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Angie and I went up to Keene today for some supplies. I figured the Co-op would have stuff.Think of the Co-op as similar to Whole Foods, spendy but quality stuff. They had an adequate supply of paper products and I didn't see any buying limitations imposed, I didn't see anybody buying any either

Re: [MBZ] FW - Classic Center still in business online

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is the biggest tragedy around. The Classic Center in Irvine is such a cool place to go see. I can't remember where I uploaded the pictures I took there but I've got a whole bunch. IIRC they've got 3x pre-war rear engine cars, the most of any museum outside Germany... -Curt On Thursday

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The boy told me his hospital folks developed their own testing stuff a week or two ago and it was better --FT On 3/19/20 2:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Oh man, last night I read up on the poop show that was the CDC on testing. When this is all done theres gonna be people at the C

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If the entire world is sitting at 170,000 cases right now I find it extraordinarily unlikely that the US alone will have 10x that number in 4 weeks. Especially with China already over the hump and having seen zero new cases yesterday. Yes I assume the Chinese are either lying about no new cases

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've basically stopped listening to any "I heard" because its probably all rubbish.Mild symptoms don't result in lung damage, that doesn't pass the sniff test. If there was lung damage, especially if it was permanent, the symptoms wouldn't be mild. -Curt On Thursday, March 19, 2020, 2:41:3

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Smoking is quite prevalent in China also. Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes: > Italy has an older population than the US and much older than South > Korea, and apparently they stay skinny by smoking, there is your > explanation for a higher death rate there. > - > Max > Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Oh man, last night I read up on the poop show that was the CDC on testing. When this is all done theres gonna be people at the CDC that will have some 'splaining to do.10 days they sat on failed test kits "We'll work it out." finally private labs worked it out once it was clear the CDC never wo

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Its also kind of a Faustian bargain too. If we "protect" ourselves this way but destroy our economy whats the point? You'll be alive but have no money for food or housing... -Curt On Wednesday, March 18, 2020, 11:19:19 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: right.   and the theory

[MBZ] //END THREAD// Re: Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
OK, everyone. This thread has officially gone off the rails. No more. ListMom > On Mar 19, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oh please. I never heard Trump complain about the lack of attention to a > possible pandemic in January. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:38 P

[MBZ] Vintage Mini at a Maxi price

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I should never have sold my '76 Chevette. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-morris-mini-cooper-s-1275/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-03-19 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Un

[MBZ] FW - Classic Center still in business online

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Dear Classic Center Customer and Visitor, With the novel coronavirus (COVID‑19) now declared a global pandemic and in the interest of everyone’s safety and our continued ability to serve our customers, we are following the CDC’s Interim Guidance for Businesses and Employers and try to minimize expo

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Oh please. I never heard Trump complain about the lack of attention to a possible pandemic in January. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Right and in January Congress was too busy impeaching the president rather > than legislating. I

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Right and in January Congress was too busy impeaching the president rather than legislating. I can’t image that helped the situation. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevente

Re: [MBZ] 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 $2,630 manifold issue?

2020-03-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I just don't get it - cars of this vintage all seem to have non contrasting exterior/interior colors. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:37 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Didn't this year 350 have balance shaft issues? > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > > On Thu, Mar

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Chloroquine is being expedited as a treatment. It has worked in South Korea, and France. There is another anti malaria drug, but I don't recall the name. These can also be taken as a prophylaxis for those are highest risk. Home run. Possibly a grand slam. Rick ___

Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
It takes a good solid day (8 hours) to remove and install the hydraulics. That is, a total of two days. It’s not difficult work, but it’s time consuming and involves removing a lot of trim panels and such. The guy in Oregon, Klaus of Top Hydraulics, will rebuild the full set of cylinders and lo

Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I had a convertible top repair shop guy tell me that if he had one R129 a month to do he could pay his bills. He said he had done a lot of them Dan you know about the cylinders in these tops. Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:28 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@

Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not only that, they’ve replaced the soft top just a couple years ago, which is a major expense and not an easy DIY job. I’ve done it on other cars, but I don’t think I would do it on an R129. That’s a heck of a deal for the car. -D > On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Oh yeah it is an R129, haha I didn't look closely,  a drive-by look!!! stupid me.  Yeah that would be a really good deal for the last 129. That job is on my list for the SL600...  Have not yet gone topless on it... --FT On 3/19/20 12:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Very nice and a heck

Re: [MBZ] 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 $2,630 manifold issue?

2020-03-19 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Didn't this year 350 have balance shaft issues? Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 12:33 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Could be a bargain ride, easy fix? Probably buggered up some vacuum or > electrical bits or something. Looks nice aside

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 11:15:01 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > There is one sitting over near a Q joint in a guy's front yard, has > been there for at least 2-3 years.  Every time I go over there I think > I should ping the guy but the place does not look too hospitable. Get the address

[MBZ] 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 $2,630 manifold issue?

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Could be a bargain ride, easy fix?  Probably buggered up some vacuum or electrical bits or something.  Looks nice aside from the scrape  H... https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2640116802876150 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 350 Sedan 4D $2,630 Seller's description… The car ran gr

Re: [MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Very nice and a heck of a deal for someone who wants an R129. One of the final years and has the “Sport” package, which is fairly rare. No issues to speak of with these. From the description it has a hydraulic leak on the left top lock, a real easy one to change and not expensive to have rebuil

[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This looks nice, AMG wheels, not a bad price, but were these earlier models prone to issues?  Needs a new top cylinder, probably all at some point. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/912633219177904 2001 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class SL 500 Roadster 2D $5,950 Seller's description… 2001 Me

Re: [MBZ] Nice 77 280E $3,900

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looks nice, black is an unusual color for that time period. -D > On Mar 19, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2643125549301573 > > 1977 Mercedes-Benz E-Class > $3,900 > Vehicles

[MBZ] Nice 77 280E $3,900

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2643125549301573 1977 Mercedes-Benz E-Class $3,900 Vehicles Listed 4 days ago in Goose Creek, SC About This Vehicle… Driven 160,

[MBZ] 2015 Mercedes Benz ML350 RWD - $20999

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
This is strange, didn't know you could get only RWD https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-pleasant-2015-mercedes-benz-ml350/7095480615.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'd buy that for $500.  Worth it for all the parts, might not even be a huge issue, most likely wiring or throttle actuators or some electrical stuff.  The engines are solid and once the other stuff is sorted they are not too bad, but still somewhat "exotic." There is one sitting over near a Q

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Not necessarily. Just think of it as an M119 x2, so double your cost of maintenance. I wonder what the “engins” work is? Looks like the console is disassembled as well. Avoid. No one wants someone else’s basket case. -D > On Mar 19, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Well, as we all know, the most expensive car in the world is a cheap Mercedes. ;-) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/m

Re: [MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:38 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Top 5 money pit of all time? > > Bob R > > > 1996 Mercedes S600 V12 > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/7093239338.html > > Please go to the preferences page if you don't want to receive > email-a-frien

[MBZ] FW: 1996 Mercedes S600 V12

2020-03-19 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The WHO test was never offered to us. "No discussions occurred between WHO and CDC about WHO providing COVID-19 tests to the United States," said WHO spokeswoman Margaret Harris. "This is consistent with experience since the United States does not ordinarily rely on WHO for reagents or diagnostic

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Forgot to add that in China, ~82,000 cases, ~3300 deaths. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:32 AM Meade Dillon wrote: > Then and now: > > H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that > approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Then and now: H1N1: From 12 April 2009 to 10 April 2010, a study estimated that approximately 60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations (195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the United States due to pH1N1. COVID-19 As of today: ~9400 cases,

Re: [MBZ] FW: Mfg - was :Thank God They Put the Paper Floor Mat Down....

2020-03-19 Thread tyee165 via Mercedes
Jeep Cherokee?RBSent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: fmiser via Mercedes Date: 2020-03-19 1:26 AM (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmiser Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: Mfg - was :Thank God They Put the Paper Floor Mat   Down That's good.Anyone able to iden

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
WHO is as believable as the chicoms. Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/19/20 7:07 AM: I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevented us from using any test developed by private industry or outside the US, back in January. Hindsight is 20-20. Remember that in mid-Janua

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
CHICOMS ARE SAYING YOUNG healthy people who have been later scanned (Did not say ct or mri) show 20% permanent lung damage.   no confirmation from other areas.   I don't see any reason why they would lie about this, but who knows. They lie about everything else. Peter Frederick via Mercedes wr

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I think that the law / regulations set in place by Congress prevented us from using any test developed by private industry or outside the US, back in January. Hindsight is 20-20. Remember that in mid-January, WHO was parroting the CHICOM lie that this virus was not able to be transmitted from hum

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Italy has an older population than the US and much older than South Korea, and apparently they stay skinny by smoking, there is your explanation for a higher death rate there. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 7:12 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wro

Re: [MBZ] Case in point: How to lie with statistics

2020-03-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
4-5% of those infected, so far as the available data goes. May be lower due to lack of complete screening and the fact that infections can be mild enough they don't get reported. Given that Itailians are in general a little healthier than US citizens (lower BMI, more exercise, etc) and those t