Re: [MBZ] : w124 headlights

On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 13:19:15 -0800 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > The amazon stuff is also 3m and advertised for the application, so I > will order some up. It goes on like window tint, so should be > straightforward to remove if needed also. Have you seen the reviews? Craig

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The aircraft stuff is $468 for 36 yards of 6", so I think I will pass on that. The amazon stuff is also 3m and advertised for the application, so I will order some up. It goes on like window tint, so should be straightforward to remove if needed also. K On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 12:59 PM OK Don via

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This is sold for the purpose, but is vinyl - don't know if that's a good thing or not. https://www.amazon.com/VViViD-Extra-Wide-Headlight-Protective-Scratch-Proof/dp/B0728HQ3J7 On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:54 PM OK Don wrote: > How about some of this tape? > >

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How about some of this tape? https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/protectiveLeading.php?clickkey=4949307 or perhaps: https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/3mproptape2.php?clickkey=4949307 I might need to get some for the Subaru, now that I think of it . . . On Wed, Dec 26,

Re: [MBZ] : w124 headlights

OK my high beam came back with the #16 fuse replacement. Simple enough. Now, since my nice new Hella lenses are so shiny, what's the consensus to keep the rocks and sand from chipping them all up? And did anyone ever figure out how to polish the lenses? I would think some 200 grit sandpaper would

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I had to get new ceramic sockets for the 91 SEC, the old plastic sockets had melted, one such that there was no power to the bulb at all. I recall I had to take the dremel to one of them to get it to fit in the headlight housing. They were pretty cheap on the site of aggressive wimmins. NAPA

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All the headlight current runs through the lamp-out module, which is the same kind of aging electronics as all the rest, and which can be fixed with a soldering iron. I fixed the one on my 560 SEL, which had a bad side marker light circuit that caused the warning lamp to be lit. Intermittently.

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I've got both of those bookmarked, if I can solve my water leak on The White Whale, I'll treat her to a new set of lenses. I bought these Bosch euro lights form Rusty just before he left the business, I think it was around $300 for the set which included new turn signal lenses as well. Two big

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You’re welcome, Max. Do note that when you go through the MM catalog you may see a number of different headlights for your model car. The usual difference is whether or not they have levelers in them. Also pay attention to the icon that designates right hand versus left hand drive, as both

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Thanks Dan! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 24, 2018 5:16:30 AM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >You can go to the Magnetti Marelli website, look up the proper >headlight assembly numbers, and give the Czech guys the numbers and >they’ll see if they can order

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Thanks Karl! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 24, 2018 12:18:44 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >Hella lenses. Made in czech republic. Old ones were bosch. The new ones >look stunning compared to the originals - like the difference between >sandblasted

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You can go to the Magnetti Marelli website, look up the proper headlight assembly numbers, and give the Czech guys the numbers and they’ll see if they can order them. Definitely go directly to the Cars245.com website to purchase, as they are less expensive directly than

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Hella lenses. Made in czech republic. Old ones were bosch. The new ones look stunning compared to the originals - like the difference between sandblasted glass and non. Mine were really shot. New whole assemblies are magnetti marelli. If you are after early style US spec the manufacturer may

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Karl, who is your source for lenses for 124 Euro lights? Do they sell Bosch? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 23, 2018 12:25:25 AM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >Yes no amount of bulbs is going to fix this bulb out light either Im >afraid. > >Anyway one guy

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If I'm remembering correctly, yes, all the current for all the monitored bulbs flows through that relay. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 23, 2018 6:46:04 PM EST, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >It practice, this would seem to mean that all the current for the

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> Max wrote: > I was under the impression that the bulb-out relay compares the > current between left and right sides, and then lights up when > they differ. I would be quite satisfied with that setup. At times it can be uncertain if one headlight is out. But usually it's easy to spot trouble

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Hmm. Sounds like a Jim Cathey project... Rick From: Mercedes on behalf of Max Dillon via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2018 9:56 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Max Dillon Subject: Re: [MBZ] : w124 headlights I was under the impression

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I was under the impression that the bulb-out relay compares the current between left and right sides, and then lights up when they differ. If one converted both sides of the headlight circuit so each has a 'Dan Stern' relay, then both sides will use the same (lower) current, so the bulb-out

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I eventually ran a new wire from the fuse box to the headlight, bypassing the lamp out relay. The "relay" itself can fail due to cracked solder, and since it was a low beam I just put up with the lamp on the dash when the low beams were on. ___

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Yes no amount of bulbs is going to fix this bulb out light either Im afraid. Anyway one guy had the same syndrome and traced it to a wire from the fuse box to the lamp failure module. So it could really be anywhere: - geoffreymbrown BenzWorld Junior MemberJoin: Dec 2009Posts:

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my 124 does not have a bubout circuit, so I don't care.   My escort dissel had a bubout, but it went crazy an no amount of correct bubs would shut it off, so I learned to ignore the bubout circuits long ago. fmiser via Mercedes wrote on 12/22/18 10:23 PM: Logic says it would have to be kinda

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> > Curly wrote: > > > > I've not found a practical way to build a new >harness with > > bigger wire. > Rick wrote: > > You could probably do the Daniel Stern relay thing to upgrade > the headlight and fog light wiring. A resistor will have to be > put in the circuit for the lamp out light to

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yes, but that introduces more points of possible failure.   once I get a good headlight harness from a junker they don't seem to bother again.   Stern likes to sell stuff.  I try to avoid buying stuff I don't need.  I am not trying to "upgrade" the lights.  I just want to keep em working.

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>Often, the plug burns. BTDT. >I've not found a practical way to build a new >harness with bigger wire. You could probably do the Daniel Stern relay thing to upgrade the headlight and fog light wiring. A resistor will have to be put in the circuit for the lamp out light to work correctly

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check the headlight harness first! Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 12/22/18 9:28 PM: Ok whoever Left Coast Geek is on benzworld knows quite a bit. Apparently there is an independent fuse for each beam on each side...guess I need to check them all. Definitely swap in the new stalk switch

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The light harness on the pre facelift 124s fail regularly.  So much so that any 124 light I see in a pnp, I will pull the assembly or if it is junk, pull the wiring harness if I have time.   Often, the plug burns.   I tried a FLAPS replacement plug, but did not last.    The wire is not big

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Ok whoever Left Coast Geek is on benzworld knows quite a bit. Apparently there is an independent fuse for each beam on each side...guess I need to check them all. Definitely swap in the new stalk switch and maybe swap out the relay for good measure. - Feb 19, 2015 · #14 GaryE said:

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The Latvians have the magnettis on their website, so we'll see what happens. So far everything has shown up (sooner or later) from them. Ok now for the interesting part. I thought I had two h4 bulbs out. High beam on one side, low beam on the other. But nope - only one bulb was out. Something

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Facelift Euros are unobtanium, I believe. Even in the aftermarket. -D > On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > the earlier hood and grille are easier to deal with because the hood is more > nearly flat. I think they look better than the "facelift" 124s. > >

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the  earlier hood and grille are easier to deal with because the hood is more nearly flat.  I think they look better than the "facelift" 124s. Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 12/22/18 5:10 PM: I snagged a nice pair of facelift 124 headlights for something like $25 each from lkq, couple years

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I know on the first version 124s,everything is different between USA and RTW (Yuro) headlight units.  I'd suspect the facelifts could be too. Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 12/22/18 4:53 PM: I dont think there is any way those ebay bosch euros are new from the photos. Too dirty and

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I snagged a nice pair of facelift 124 headlights for something like $25 each from lkq, couple years ago. I should look for a white face lift hood, then mount that set up on The White Whale. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___

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Condition: New Selling a pair of used Bosch euro headlights that I purchased for a 400E that I didn't end up owning. --Gee, why didn't you check 'used' in the condition box when setting up the listing? Shipping: $117.72 Standard Shipping --Pass, no, make that hard pass. Mitch > On

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I dont think there is any way those ebay bosch euros are new from the photos. Too dirty and pitted. I just ordered some magneti marellis for the 300td. I can use the new hella lenses I just received on the e420. To answer my own question, the housings I have are euro. The new lenses are euro.

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It is a facelift w124. Single lens and gasket. > > 124 820 8959 is the housing. Lenses look similar to bosch that are on the > car, but a few more fresnel elements etc. > > I guess the facelift cars would have US spec and euro spec lenses. But are > the housings different? I assumed the housings

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I think the latvians have the whole Hella unit available still. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:52 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > Depo is OK, although I've seen one with a broken adjuster link. > > I put them on the old 300D some years back, worked fine. A vast >

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Ok are we talking housings, or just the lenses? On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:37 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > The Euro lights are vastly superior (you will have to dim your brights for > oncoming traffic, for instance, something I never need to do with the DOT >

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Great info. Thanks. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:48 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: > The LEDs need small emitters, oriented sideways. > If they have rounded lenses over the actual LEDs, they'll never focus > decently. > The good ones use Philips emitters. > > Rusty used

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Depo is OK, although I've seen one with a broken adjuster link. I put them on the old 300D some years back, worked fine. A vast improvement over the DOT at any rate, and not terribly expensive. Bosch or Hella are better, but hard to find for the 86-93 body.

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The LEDs need small emitters, oriented sideways. If they have rounded lenses over the actual LEDs, they'll never focus decently. The good ones use Philips emitters. Rusty used to like the TYC euros, but iirc Jaime was skeptical. I can find Depo on the bay of fleas for $165, but don't know

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The Euro lights are vastly superior (you will have to dim your brights for oncoming traffic, for instance, something I never need to do with the DOT ones). If you can find some, the Hella are the best, but get new if possible, even cheap chinese stuff. Used ones will very likely be quite

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are these for USA lights or yuro lights?   I thought you bought the whole yuro unit, but your description sounds like you got just the lens for the USA headlight. If USA, you should buy the lens and reflector together, or buy the whole yuro headlight units. Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote

[MBZ] : w124 headlights

> > OK what's the consensus on buying new headlight housings vs. just the > lenses and using used housings/reflectors? A few days ago a package shows up with new Hella lenses from Belarus or something like that (not sure - I tried the Latvian guys but never got the money wired, so I reordered

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95 has Euro spec headlights from the factory, one of the reasons for buying one. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] W124 headlights [was Re: headlight brightness, 123 126]

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:03:51 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The headlights on these cars are woefully inadequate even for their time, and border on being dangerous when driving the car at highway speeds, in my opinion. My R129 (SL500) has the same lights as the

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How does one tell if the headlights in one's W124 are the ones to which you here refer, Dan, or a better version? Pretty sure if it uses a 9004 bulb, they are NOT a better version! A tripod of three glass bumps on the front is also a pretty good indication of USDOT lamps. This is/was for an

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2014 18:05:09 -0700 Jim Cathey jim.cathey...@gmail.com wrote: How does one tell if the headlights in one's W124 are the ones to which you here refer, Dan, or a better version? Pretty sure if it uses a 9004 bulb, they are NOT a better version! A tripod of three glass bumps

[MBZ] W124 headlights wanted

Hello, A friend of mine has screwed up headlights on his 1987 W124. The left side needs the bezel (plastic fog light lens) and the right side needs the glass headlight lens/globe assembly. Probably easier to just get two whole used headlights, or at least a right (passenger) side since that one

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