Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

Give us a brake on that price! --R On 1/4/16 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for W123/4/6 cars. They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on the packages. 129 428 00 35 $10

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

What sort of 140 parts? Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Your all loosers, as Curly snagged them. > > I have a bunch of W140 parts if anyone’s interested. > > Dan > > >> On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

Your all loosers, as Curly snagged them. I have a bunch of W140 parts if anyone’s interested. Dan > On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Give me a brake! > > Sent from my iPhone > ___

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

I have a list with descriptions and part numbers. It’s several pages long. I need to update it and I’ll post a link to it in a little bit so people can look at it if they’re interested. Of course, some thigns fit other models, too. Dan > On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:51 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

Give me a brake! Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:44 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > Give us a brake on that price! > > --R > >> On 1/4/16 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS

[MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for W123/4/6 cars. They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on the packages. 129 428 00 35 $10 shipped for the pair. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

I’m sorry. Hoses. You could Google the part number and see pictures online…. Dan > On Jan 4, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > >> I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for >> W123/4/6 cars. >> >> They're

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines For Sale

I'm cleaning out the garage today, and found a couple of NOS brake lines for W123/4/6 cars. They're still in the packaging and are "Pex" brand with Autohaus stickers on the packages. 129 428 00 35 $10 shipped for the pair. Dan HARD LINES OR HOSES? If hoses, how long? front or rear? If

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

nearly to the floor and all braking ability was in the last say 1/4 of pedal throw. -Curt Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:49:40 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines Message-ID: 1297014580.7908.1419232

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Rick Knoble wrote: I was driving the car when the brakes failed (rears) and it was still quite drivable, with no unpleasant feelings of not being able to stop. I have Akebonos with new rotors on the front, maybe that helps. Allen wrote: Wow that's quite a different

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: Pump the pedal. That is, take your foot off and step on it again. The two circuits are separate, but do have a pressure balancing function. So if one fails with a very low resistance (big hole) the other side will require more fluid volume than typical.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Allan Streib wrote: The '87 Toyota, though it had a dual circuit system, had only one reservoir (not a split reservoir). So a few pumps of the brake and the fluid is goine and you're sucking air into the master cylinder... Are you sure? That would put it about 20 years behind the 1975 Honda

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

That is my recollection yes. I had to move the reservoir over to a new MC when I later had to replace the MC. And it was just one chamber. Of course that was at least 20 years ago, so I suppose i could be mistaken. Allan On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:59 -0500, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

From: curtlud...@yahoo.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines Allen's experience is what I would expect from a brake line failure. I've seen this on an '87 Dodge Lancer (line to the rear system rusted and failed), '03 Ford Ranger (line to one rear brake rusted

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

From: okd...@gmail.com How old is this Buick? Does it have a 2 circuit brake system or one? If one - I'd be more conservative with the repair. If two - and the line splice lets go, you'll still have some braking. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I would not

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

I agree with Mitch that a proper flare connected with the proper fitting should be perfectly reliable. Here is a possible alternative. We use these Swagelok fittings all the time on both pressure and vacuum systems in many aerospace applications. I found fittings here for 6mm but not sure just

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

I've used hundreds of Swage-Loc fittings over the years, and they are as subject to fatigue failures and extrusion failures as any compression fitting. Better than most, as they require less pressure to seat correctly, but all the other caveats apply. The worst problem with them is

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:12 -0800, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: I was driving the car when the brakes failed (rears) and it was still quite drivable, with no unpleasant feelings of not being able to stop. I have Akebonos with new rotors on the front, maybe that helps. Wow that's

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

I agree with Barry and Peter, that properly used swagelock fittings are good, but differ slightly with Barry about compression fittings. A properly seated compression fitting does swage the tubing where the collar is, making it slightly smaller, with the effect that the tail is slightly

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

The issue regarding splice a new short length in to an existing line is that the remainder of the line is old and will be more liable to suffer age fatigue. Where's the line gonna break? - in the old line area, not the new splice area or unions, I would guess. Replace the entire line and forget

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:28:18 -0800 Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net wrote: I agree with Mitch that a proper flare connected with the proper fitting should be perfectly reliable. Here is a possible alternative. We use these Swagelok fittings all the time on both pressure and vacuum systems

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Far as I remember brake systems work on a two circuit design, front and rear, so if one goes you still have the other. Hendrik who recently recently serviced/overhauled the brake system in the TE Allan Streib wrote: On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 18:12 -0800, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

[MBZ] Brake Lines

Is it acceptable to splice brake lines? I am working on an old Buick that has rear brake lines that are rusted through, but are still rust free by the door sill. I do have a double flare tool that I haven't used in decades. This should be fun... (not). Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Iirc it's acceptable, as long as the proper coupling is used. I run new ones the full length when I have to do lines, just to be safe. Walt On Feb 5, 2011 10:32 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Is it acceptable to splice brake lines? I am working on an old Buick that has rear brake

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com writes: Is it acceptable to splice brake lines? I am working on an old Buick that has rear brake lines that are rusted through, but are still rust free by the door sill. I do have a double flare tool that I haven't used in decades. This should be fun...

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I would not splice a brake line. Not trying to be a smartypants, but what do they make compression fittings for, then? I am no expert but I thought splicing a brake line was a pretty normal and uncontroversial thing to

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I would not splice a brake line. Not trying to be a smartypants, but what do they make compression fittings for, then? I am no expert but I thought splicing a brake

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Allan Streib wrote: Also a regular compression fitting is not suitable for brake lines. If you are going to splice it, you need to do a proper double flare. Agreed. But I don't see where an extra union with a flare on each end adds much fallibility to a fluid path that's already got a

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Compression fittings are an invitation to sudden complete brake failure when the line pops apart. The only acceptable fittings are flare fittings. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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I know that compression fittings in brake lines are supposed to be a no-no. BUT: I used them on my bronco for years I owned it (16 years) and they were still fine when I sold it. I also used two on my old 1962 190Dc, that hat caused no problem either. They do need to be clamped down tight.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: I would not splice a brake line. Not trying to be a smartypants, but what do they make compression fittings for, then? I am no expert but I thought splicing a brake line was a pretty normal and uncontroversial thing

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

How old is this Buick? Does it have a 2 circuit brake system or one? If one - I'd be more conservative with the repair. If two - and the line splice lets go, you'll still have some braking. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:44

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Compression fittings work fine in situations where the pressure does not change significantly. When the pressure cycles, you eventually deform either the tubing or the collar, and they leak. Temperature cycling is also bad for the same reason. The result is that the tubing can shrink

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/17/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that ALL the tools from a specific country are of the same quality? Of course not! I don't pretend to have anything other than anecdotal evidence, but I have noticed that there seems to be a

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On 7/17/07, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that ALL the tools from a specific country are of the same quality? Of course not! I don't pretend to have anything other than anecdotal evidence, but I have noticed that there seems to be a correlation in the quality of

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is utilitarian and nearly anything will do. The only power tool I use that might be considered hazardous if it were substandard is a drill, and so I splurged for a couple Asian-made Makita drills that are costlier than other brands.

[MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days)

BTW I do have some nice Craftsmen made in USA flare wrenches ;-) As you all know one of the brake lines split on the SD on Friday. Car is still waiting for my time. Yesterday leaving work the check engine light came on in the Civic. Car was semi-driveable as I had no warm idle. So that car is

Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days)

Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC was working (I guess, it was about 90F and the guy driving it had the windows up,

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is utilitarian and nearly anything will do. But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more utilitarian it is, and good tools are expensive secondarily for

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:54:29 -0700, you wrote: In this case I am sure that more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. Alex Why would that be? A box wrench doesn't drive off it's points, it drives

Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days)

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:31:21 -0500, you wrote: Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a real job. He really liked it. This one was in nice shape, even the AC was working (I guess, it was about

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On 7/17/07, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:54:29 -0700, you wrote: In this case I am sure that more precise forging techniques and better quality control meant that the U.S.-made wrench would be less likely to round off a bolt or nut. Why would that be?

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/17/07, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I do appreciate the finer tools, for my purposes a tool is utilitarian and nearly anything will do. But this is a false argument. The better something works, the more utilitarian it is, and good tools are

Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) - and ALFA's and memory lane

] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:31 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake lines adjunct (Strange Days) Just on Sat I saw one of those Alfa GTV6s I think it was -- a buddy of mine bought one of those ages ago after he finished school and got a real job. He

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:02:19 -0400, you wrote: It's getting extremely hard to buy stuff that is not made in China - thankfully the Craftsman stuff is US made and high quality - Good luck - I just bought a new Craftsman chop saw about $100. You guessed it, Made in China on the box...

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

I went to Sears with the hope I'd find US made stuff too. All the socket sets and wrenches were made in China. I walked out with my money in my pocket. I talked to someone there and they said no one will pay for the US made stuff now. I said I'm standing here with my money in hand, don't I

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines I went to Sears with the hope I'd find US made stuff too. All the socket sets and wrenches were made in China. I walked out with my money in my pocket. I talked

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

This isn't so much a made in china thing, it's an issue with quality control and expectations from the buyer. It's not as if Sear actually had factories making this stuff (did they? Perhaps 100 years back?), they sent engineering specs (maybe not?) out and had USA companies build the stuff,

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Let me throw this out; I've never known a North American company to set up shop in China, or to switch to suppliers from China because they were trying to improve quality or offer a better product. I'm sure there is quality control in China, but the quality is controlled at a made in China level.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:57 PM, E M wrote: Let me throw this out; I've never known a North American company to set up shop in China, or to switch to suppliers from China because they were trying to improve quality or offer a better product. I'm sure there is quality control in China, but

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sadly this becomes a junk $10 wrench, versus a quality forever $50 wrench. Well the risk is? Most consumers don't really use tools seriously enough to care. The junk wrench with the lifetime warranty is just fine for them. The professional mechanic

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Not to be a heretic, but since RLE broached the subject, I'll pile on: Ritter once mentioned that professional quality wrenches just felt good in your hand, and the ergonomics, if properly done, essentially made the tool an extension of your body. When I first heard him say this, I figured he

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the really sad thing is, not so many years ago, the pro could buy some of his tools from Sears. I had a really stuck bolt a few weeks ago when I was changing a timing belt and put a made in china wrench on it. When they're really stuck, you fear rounding the bolt head at times, but I had to

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

. - Original Message - From: Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:02:19 -0400, you wrote: It's getting extremely hard to buy stuff that is not made

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Is this Sears thing recent? The last time I bought a few wrenches and sockets at Sears, they were made in USA --- couldn't have been more than six months ago. On 7/16/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's almost *impossible* to find stuff that's *not* made in China! -- OK Don, KD5NRO

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines I second this suggestion. This is one place that you want a good quality flare nut wrench. I had some cheapies (Whitney or Harbor ... don't recall

[MBZ] Brake Lines

Does anyone have any experience buying pre formed hard brake lines or bending their own? Couldn't find them on Rusty's site. Had an experience driving home from work yesterday in the SD wherein I'll have to replace one of the hard brake lines for the front brakes. Thanks, Fred Johnson Chicago

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

IIRC, when you order a hard brake line from MB, it comes unbent. At least ones for older cars do. I think I had to replace a couple of lines on a 114 one time, and they came straight. There are cheap hand held tubing benders that are pretty easy to use. Buy one and practice on a scrap piece.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

You can get the tube at the auto parts store, and the fittings (make sure you put them on before you do the flare!) and the flaring and bending tools, which aren't much money (or the auto parts store might let you borrow them). It is not hard to do if you just don't bend too far or too fast.

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Dan and Rich, thanks for your motivation. Will have to go out to the NAPA and get started. Fred --- Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get the tube at the auto parts store, and the fittings (make sure you put them on before you do the flare!) and the flaring and bending tools,

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: Fred Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [MBZ] Brake Lines Does anyone have any experience buying pre formed hard brake lines or bending their own? Couldn't

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

Be sure to get a set of flare nut wrenches (metric, of course) before you start in on this stuff. Regular box-end wrenches will chew up the fittings. Dan Pinpoint customers who are looking for what

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

one or two sizes (not a whole set) even a great wrench is not so costly. Scott Ritchey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 20:56 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines Be sure to get

Re: [MBZ] Brake Lines

What I used to do, when all the FLAPS had was SAE thread brake line, was to buy the length of SAE stuff longer than I needed, the cut the flare off one end, and dump the nuts off. Then i;d take the nuts from the piece i was replacing and slide them on , in the right orientation, then bend