Not I, I very much enjoy my internet connection and my Mercedes. For one,
I wouldn't be able to visit or talk to most of my friends and family
without them because they've moved all around the USA and the world.
I don't think this is what the quote was getting at. He (and I) wasn't
saying to avoid
Ok, who want's to be the first to sell their Mercedes and unplug their
connection to the internet? Neither fall under "basic needs" as far as I'm
aware.
Ed
300E
2009/1/9 Tyler
> Mao,
>
> I like that quote quite a bit. It seems that recently people have begun to
> accept without question that t
Mao,
I like that quote quite a bit. It seems that recently people have begun to
accept without question that the purpose of life is to make money, instead
of the purpose of money being to help one trade with others to meet their
basic needs for survival. I find the idea of a life purposed around
e
Here's the quote from Adam Smith:
He said, "A profitably speculation is presented as a public good
because growth will stimulate demand and everywhere diffuse comfort
and improvement. No patriot or man of feeling could therefore oppose
it. But the nature of this growth, in opposition, for example,
Snook wrote:
> I will thicken up my skin and chalk it up to experience.
Your skin is thick enough - you're fine.
However, you are not the economist Adam Smith was. And he had a thing
or three to say about preference time and frivolous - listen to 2nd
half of this show:
http://www.publicradio.o
they are now called mini-vans or SUV's
Randy
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If they drop the Magnum, will there ANY American station wagons?
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Gary wrote: "you read too much into this, gordon. he is not making a moral
valuation between himself and someone else, but rather making a statement about
economic preferences. he personally would rather not have $20 and not have to
change oil whereas another fella would rather have $20 and ch
Ed wrote: "There's a difference between a hobby and chore. Hard to put a
monetary value on a hobby, but it's easy to put one on a chore."
Thank you, Ed. You said it much better than I could have. That is exactly what
I mean. I should have said it this way.
Donald H. Snook
-- nex
MAO wrote:
Snook wrote:
> My time is worth a whole lot more than the $20 I would save in
> changing it myself.
That is a rather cocky and arrogant statement for me to read. You are saying
some people are worth the time to change oil? I think all people are worth the
time it takes to maintain a
and so once again Detroit strikes out as they are dropping the Magnum.
Something a little different and neat and then they drop it.Did you
know that the Magnum is classified as a light truck so there was no
gas guzzler penalty associated with the Hemi SRT8 option.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:16 AM,
My sister's Mag was holding up well last I saw it at 25K miles. It should
last her for years even with the abuse from a family of 5. The interior
cleans up well.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 00:49
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> Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
>
> Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.
>
> I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today'
you read too much into this, gordon. he is not making a moral valuation
between himself and someone else, but rather making a statement about
economic preferences. he personally would rather not have $20 and not have
to change oil whereas another fella would rather have $20 and change oil
than no
back in the day, i was a strong believer in "you gotta fix your own car."
after many many minor injuries and many broken parts (including setting a
buick on fire), i concluded that i'm just too old for this shit and started
paying people to do it for me.
i used to also believe in being my own elec
I take no offense to the statement. Simple economics, if you earn more than
it cost to pay someone to do a job you're not interested in doing, why not?
If you like to tinker, and enjoy changing oil, as many of us do, that's a
different story. If you're not all that interesting in changing oil, an
Snook wrote:
> My time is worth a whole lot more than the $20 I would save in changing it
> myself.
That is a rather cocky and arrogant statement for me to read.
You are saying some people are worth the time to change oil? I think
all people are worth the time it takes to maintain an item rather
Don't know, but a 96 isn't in your current ranger's class...
On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 05:35:09PM -0800, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Was it Snook that told me "The Ranger has the best in class fuel economy"?
>
> Mine gets a rock solid 17mpg... I am SIGNIFICANTLY under impressed with that,
> my '96 Dakot
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Good rundown on what's out there. We went
e MacSween
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Subject: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.
I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test drive the
I've got some old Craftsman jack stands that my dad gave me , the type with
the pin that can be put into different holes for height adjustment. He's
got some 15 year old cheapies, the type that you lift up and they lock in
place. They fall back down with one push on the release handle. These
R A Bennell wrote:
Other things can happen too. I think I reported this incident on here a while
back. I was replacing the clutch in
our old 4Runner and went home one afternoon to work on it. No one else home. I
was putting stuff back together and
reached my arm up in over the tranny against th
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On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, E M wrote:
> I hear you with crawl
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:29 PM, E M wrote:
> I hear you with crawling under cars when up in the air. So many of the
> stands now say "Made In China" too, which does nothing to make me feel any
> better about crawling under there. lol
>
Me too. I have some expensive but excellent quality USA-mad
Tyler wrote: "I don't think anyone has the right to use more of the earths
resources than they need just because they can afford to, and are too lazy to
do otherwise."
Well, in my opinion, I am glad you don't get to make the rules. Otherwise, I
would certainly not meet your requirements. I on
Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
This is exactly why I moved away from old MBs. I have neither the time nor
inclination (any more) to be spending a
portion of my weekend or evenings to work on a car, even though I have a place
to do it.
The day will come when I have the
I hear you with crawling under cars when up in the air. So many of the
stands now say "Made In China" too, which does nothing to make me feel any
better about crawling under there. lol
Ed
300E
2009/1/7 Steve MacSween
> on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:
>
> > perha
You talking about the control pressure cable? If so, that is about a 10
minute job max. That is crazy money.
Steve MacSween wrote:
on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:
perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
on a 126 and dont have
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It really bothers me how everything is considered disposable, and people
feel entitled to own and operate such a complicated machine without
knowing how it works, or how to care for it.
Even new cars break down, and in my opinion
right, sometimes I dont get out what I mean too well I guess.
Mitch Haley wrote:
Donald Snook wrote:
That's a ridiculous statement. If you don't know how to work on a
car, you shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying?
I think Kleb was saying that if you can't replace a shift cable, y
on 1/7/09 15:16, Kaleb C. Striplin at ka...@striplin.net wrote:
> perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
> on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you
> probably should not own it. Nothing ridiculous about that. I have seen
> far too
comes, I'll find a nice older MB to do it with. Until then, it's
strictly utilitarian stuff - get in, turn the key and go.
Dan
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, R A Bennell wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
To: "Mercedes Discussion List&qu
once a car is more than 20 years old, you should buy them in multiples.
lol. Then you have a cheap supply of parts. Even the Air Force do it with
old planes.
I was offered a used head for the 3ooE for $200. Why would I pay that when
I can get a whole car for $400, part it out, give a bunch of b
It really bothers me how everything is considered disposable, and people
feel entitled to own and operate such a complicated machine without
knowing how it works, or how to care for it.
Even new cars break down, and in my opinion it's somewhat dangerous to
operate a car, especially in remote areas
dy
>
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
&
Donald Snook wrote:
That's a ridiculous statement. If you don't know how to work on a car, you shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying?
I think Kleb was saying that if you can't replace a shift cable, you shouldn't
drive a 20 year old car which might cost 20% of its value to have some
27;s short, but steep. If there is the slightest bit
of snow or ice on it the Crown Vic can barely make it up without redlining the
final drive.
Dan
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Jim Cathey wrote:
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
To: "Mercedes Discussion Li
on 1/7/09 14:22, Peter Merle at merle.pe...@gmail.com wrote:
> Which merc are they based on?
> Here in SA no one is interested in buying American vehicles - the Japs ,
> European and now Chinese have the market
> Peter
I think the w124.
This is what MB was doing with Chrysler. The Pacific was ba
ry 07, 2009 2:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] So I end up buying a 2005 Dodge Magnum
perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you
probably should not own it. Nothing ridiculous
> If you don't know how to work on a car,
> you shouldn't own one?
You probably shouldn't... especially not an old obscure one that nobody
else knows how to work on.
Personally, if I didn't know how to work on cars I'd either get rid of
them and ride my bike, or learn. You'd have to make a heck o
exactly
John Robbins wrote:
Donald Snook wrote:
That's a ridiculous statement. If you don't know how to work on a
car, you shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying? Well, I
guess that means there are MILLIONS of people who shouldn't own a
car. Keep in mind there are some things that ar
Donald Snook wrote:
That's a ridiculous statement. If you don't know how to work on a
car, you shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying? Well, I
guess that means there are MILLIONS of people who shouldn't own a
car. Keep in mind there are some things that are not worth the time
to do ins
-- Original message --
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin"
> Well I guess if you got to pay somebody to replace a shift cable on a
> 126 you probably should not own one.
>
My HHR is an appliance.
My Benz was a hobby
HHR is to Benz
as
Wife is to XXX
Pete
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perhaps I should have said if you dont know how to replace a shift cable
on a 126 and dont have alot of money to pay somebody to do it, then you
probably should not own it. Nothing ridiculous about that. I have seen
far too many of these cars run into the ground by people who dont know
how to
Kaleb wrote: "Well I guess if you got to pay somebody to replace a shift cable
on a
126 you probably should not own one."
That's a ridiculous statement. If you don't know how to work on a car, you
shouldn't own one? Is that what you are saying? Well, I guess that means there
are MILLIONS of p
Peter Merle wrote:
Which merc are they based on?
I always figured the Magnum was based on the R-series.
The Crossfire is based on the SLK.
Mitch.
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Steve MacSween wrote:
If the snow was stuck in them, they were not decent M + S tires.
I thought that good mud tires shed mud, and good snow tires grab onto the snow?
At any rate, I think his main problem was too much width or not enough pressure
(those were WIDE tires) prevented his tires
245s are awesome in snow! This reminds me of when I was a teenager, I used
to drive around during snowstorms in my 1975 245 and pull people in SUVs
out of ditches with an old climbing rope. My wife and I also went snow
camping often in our 1982 245 Turbo, and we never chained up in the deep
snow wh
Which merc are they based on?
Here in SA no one is interested in buying American vehicles - the Japs ,
European and now Chinese have the market
Peter
2009/1/7 Steve MacSween
> There are no reasonably priced competent wrenches left in my area for the
> older cars. The only shop that is left has
Maybe I should start a used to own a mercedes now I own an american
crapbox list.
Steve MacSween wrote:
on 1/7/09 10:42, Jim Cathey at j...@windwireless.net wrote:
I got trapped behind a RWD Chrysler (not Magnum, a sedan, probably
300) in light
snow last month. He had decent tires (the snow w
Well I guess if you got to pay somebody to replace a shift cable on a
126 you probably should not own one.
Steve MacSween wrote:
There are no reasonably priced competent wrenches left in my area for the
older cars. The only shop that is left has a shop rate of $90 per hour and
they take booking
on 1/7/09 10:42, Jim Cathey at j...@windwireless.net wrote:
>> I got trapped behind a RWD Chrysler (not Magnum, a sedan, probably
>> 300) in light
>> snow last month. He had decent tires (the snow was sticking to them,
>> they were totally white), limited slip or locking diff, and a gentle
>> foot
There are no reasonably priced competent wrenches left in my area for the
older cars. The only shop that is left has a shop rate of $90 per hour and
they take bookings for two weeks down the road.
They charged me $440 (P & L) to replace the shift cable on my w126. Nay nay.
I'm turning 50 this yea
What is it with you long term hard core MB people buying crap american
cars? First toad goes all chrysler on us, now you.
Steve MacSween wrote:
Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.
I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Steve MacSween
wrote:
> You can start the flames now ;).
No flames here! I think the 300/Magnum/Charger siblings are terrific
cars. Great handling with what's basically the tried-and-true 124
multilink suspension in the rear, and as noted as long as you avoid
the
I got trapped behind a RWD Chrysler (not Magnum, a sedan, probably
300) in light
snow last month. He had decent tires (the snow was sticking to them,
they were totally white), limited slip or locking diff, and a gentle
foot (or traction control), but the tires just slipped 3-5mph without
the ca
I got trapped behind a RWD Chrysler (not Magnum, a sedan, probably 300) in light
snow last month. He had decent tires (the snow was sticking to them, they were
totally white), limited slip or locking diff, and a gentle foot (or traction
control), but the tires just slipped 3-5mph without the car
Steve M. wrote: "Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO. I
came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it."
Congratulations! I think those are very cool cars. They are definitely a
niche in t
That's the exact car that my sister has. It has great ride and handling,
lots of room, and the V6 does very well with it's 260? hp. She was having
trouble with oil consumption between 3k change intervals with 25Kmi on the
clock. It was burning 1.5 to 2qts (don't know if they figured out what
Had it two months and no complaints so far. SXT with 3.5 HO.
I came to it for reasons of price/value/kick for buck in today's market.
After the test drive there was no way I was not buying it.
The alternatives (all 2004-2007 models):
Ford Ranger (what I set out to buy): not enough headroom, BUMM
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