[MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
After the other day AC has been working fine. On the way back from CO and it worked perfectly for 7 hours. Temps were in the 70s thru low 90s. Made a stop, back in car and it’s 105 and of course no hint of trying to cool except for maybe once when I turned the system off and back in it seemed l

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Put a scanner on it and read the AC pressures and such and see what it is going on strike --FT On 7/25/22 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: After the other day AC has been working fine. On the way back from CO and it worked perfectly for 7 hours. Temps were in the 70s thru low 90s.

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have hooked SDS up and pressure does not change when compressor is supposed to be off or on. I recall hooking up gauges and both sides stay the same but may check that again. Either the valve in the compressor is not working as it should or expansion valve is not. Or maybe it’s an electrical p

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Pretty sure you can always tell if the compressor hub is spinning, vs not. Pistons gotta pis, so if they're moving so is fluid. If it won't build pressure either the one-way valves or shot, or the expansion valve is so open that no pressure is built. At its heart, AC is extremely simple, mechanic

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Except this is one of those variable compressors that does not have a normal clutch. So the hub is spinning all the time regardless of the AC being on or not. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:20 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > Pretty sure you can always tell if the compressor hub is sp

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-07-25 19:20, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Pretty sure you can always tell if the compressor hub is spinning, vs not. Didn't MBZ get rid of the clutch a while back, and newer ones spin all the time? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list arch

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Correct, which is this one. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:24 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-07-25 19:20, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> Pretty sure you can always tell if the compressor hub is spinning, vs not. > > Didn't MBZ get rid of the clutch a while ba

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one with all of that internal, difficult to diagnose, and expensive to replace. Progress! The wretched X5 has that system, and of course it failed and needed a new (

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes exactly. I don’t really understand why they had to make it more complicated. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2022, at 6:37 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: > > So, we change from a simple, easily diagnosed system with its most > failure-prone part being an external, non-pressurized bolt-on to one

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
More fuel efficient I am sure.  They can save .01% fuel by going to a more expensive and complex system that will cost 8X as much in the long run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel and the EPA and EUCommies are happy you are not killing the planet as fast even though the life-cycle environmental

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think tomorrow I’m going to recover the refrigerant just to see if it’s leaked any since I recharged it. Maybe it’s got a small leak or something. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 25, 2022, at 7:02 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-25 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> cost 8X as much in the long run but you save $3.92 a year in fuel Nobody EVER does system-level economics. "Does your dog bite?" ... "That is not my dog!" -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsu

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
IOL7ghrnI Rick From: Mercedes on behalf of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC True. Well the damn thing has not blown any cold air in 2 hours. I think tomorr

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
gt; https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI > > Rick > > From: Mercedes on behalf of Kaleb Striplin > via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Kaleb Striplin > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC > > True. Well the damn th

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
ing, or the valve plate has failed >> with a crack or something. >> >> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI >> >> Rick >> >> From: Mercedes on behalf of Kaleb Striplin >> via Mercedes >> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 7:18:36

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
the idea is >>> the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has >>> failed with a crack or something. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI >>> >>> Rick >>> ________________ >>>

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
t; variable displacement compressor works. It's not a Benz, but the idea is >>>> the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has >>>> failed with a crack or something. >>>> >>>> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI >>>> >>>>

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
;>> the same. Either the solenoid valve isn't working, or the valve plate has >>>>> failed with a crack or something. >>>>> >>>>> https://youtu.be/xwIOL7ghrnI >>>>> >>>>> Rick >>>>>

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
cedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC So with these compressors it could be the swash plate getting stuck, or solenoid going bad. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2022, at 1:33 PM, dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com>

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Sent: July 26, 2022 1:40 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: ka...@striplin.net<mailto:ka...@striplin.net> Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC So it appears. I’m guessing the plate either got stuck in the flat/neutral position or the solenoid won’t move it out of that position. This is what affected the youngest son’s compressor in his facelift W210. Spun without issue, charge

Re: [MBZ] The GL AC

2022-07-26 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
ebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] The GL AC > > So it appears. I’m guessing the plate either got stuck in the flat/neutral > position or the solenoid won’t move it out of that position. > > This is what affected the youngest so