.
$5 difference, I'll buy the better item. $150 difference on a $400 car, I'll
buy the cheap one.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:00:58 -0400
From: "Allan Streib"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Message-ID: <1252936858.6354.
keep telling yourself these stories
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
> No that's not it at all. In this case the choice of buying "new"
> calipers at over $225 each, or remans for less than $100. We're not
> talking about a bag of Doritos that is 5 cents cheaper at Wal Mart
No that's not it at all. In this case the choice of buying "new"
calipers at over $225 each, or remans for less than $100. We're not
talking about a bag of Doritos that is 5 cents cheaper at Wal Mart, and
sorry but Mom and Pop was not a business model that could survive
selling commodities like t
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
wrote:
> I know but cookies can be tracked. If you were in the tinfoil hat set
> you'd be worried about that...
Or you delete all your cookies either at browser close or with a manual
effort.
And you clean out your .macromedia flash folders.
Are you sure that the borders aren't being closed to keep us in???
> I have followed this rationale for years, but am beginning to not like
> the borders element of borders, language, culture (Michael Savage).
> Very few of us are indigenous peoples - most of us have loong history
> of past immig
Just downloaded "Rainlendar" from filehippo.com. It's supposed to have a place
where you can put stuff you want to do when you get around to it, but I haven't
had time to play with it yet. Downloaded it some time ago but it wasn't very
user friendly then. Seems to be much better now. Its fre
I know but cookies can be tracked. If you were in the tinfoil hat set you'd be
worried about that...
-Curt
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:44:11 -0600
From: Craig McCluskey
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Message-ID: <20090913184411.76ea89
LarryT wrote:
> If they
> introduce things that undermine this country (like leaving our borders open)
> bring them up on charges.
I have followed this rationale for years, but am beginning to not like
the borders element of borders, language, culture (Michael Savage).
Very few of us are indigenou
Curt wrote:
> #1. Congressional layoffs. The money saved is not just in having too many
> legislators (which we do) but that each legislator has too much staff...
>
Don't forget all the money put to decent use in the ekonomy - no
lobbyists allowed, since they are all layed off.
mao
_
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond
wrote:
> I have a draft email in my Yahoo account for that purpose...
>
> It used to be that if I just clicked out of Rusty's site my purchases
> would remain, musta been a cookie or something. Was pretty handy
> although a bit of a privacy c
OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
www.youroil.net
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From: "Curt Raymond"
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 7:53 PM
To: "Diesel List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
I actually have several ideas on this front.
#1. Congression
Offices are to work in.
I could go on all night with this.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:19:21 -0400
From: "LarryT"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
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That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009
LarryT wrote:
For that matter, the federal laws passed in the last 40 years could be
declared null and void with little or no consequence.
We're off topic for this list, but I've always thought it should be 100 years.
(until the 100th birthday of the Federal Reserve Act, then it should be mor
little or no consequence.
LarryT
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From: "Mountain Man"
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 4:31 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ
jabba wrote:
> i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
> original definition of the term?
original definition? - exactly what you are speaking about. no nickel
saved, no nickel earned, mere rape by mega-national corporation
skrewing with every last one of their suppli
jabba wrote:
> but, as i've said, they don't
> care as they think they got a free nickel, when they got nothing but reamed
> and made the world a vastly inferior place.
annihilate the education system also, as they are the system that has
indoctrinated all of us of the value of a nickel. there is
jabba wrote:
> and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most part, but just
> getting confused on the bait and switch
I like the text on the Florida's Natural co-op premium
not-from-concentrate OJ we purchase. Speaks to the same issue. Other
mega-national corporations put juice in the cart
Sadly it only takes on lunatic to ruin the peace and quiet.
We are very lucky, we have had good neighbors next door for many,
many years. I guess that house attracts reasonable, stable people
(plain colonial with lots of knotty pine panelling). Not a
pretentious house. The current folks
no, the police will probably not help her much and then she will ask us to
help her and we wont' either. then next week it will start all over again
with something else.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM, OK Don wrote:
> Thanks for sharing - if she succeeds in getting rid of the dogs, let us
> kn
o buy the "good" part from us. In a lot of cases
> it's dealers who sell stuff on eBay and online for next to nothing. How
> they do it, I don't know, but they can't be making enough money to be
> profitable, I believe.
>
> Poos
>
>
>
> --- On Sun
Thanks for sharing - if she succeeds in getting rid of the dogs, let us
know.
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
> original definition of the term?
>
> there is a woman up the street who is crazy. previously
AND - those employeed by Wal-Mart are receiving food stamps (SNAP now) to be
able to feed their families
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:
> the problem is that mom & pop are not being abandoned for 5x but for 5
> cents. and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most
i'd have to think about it for a while. what would you say was your
original definition of the term?
there is a woman up the street who is crazy. previously, she went to war
against the snakes in the neighborhood. the snakes frighten her, so she
called the police everyday in an effort to eradic
from us. In a lot of cases it's dealers who
sell stuff on eBay and online for next to nothing. How they do it, I don't
know, but they can't be making enough money to be profitable, I believe.
Poos
--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Gary Hurst wrote:
> From: Gary Hurst
> Subject
the problem is that mom & pop are not being abandoned for 5x but for 5
cents. and you aren't even getting the nickel for the most part, but just
getting confused on the bait and switch
and the issue is much bigger than money. it is more about destroying a fine
way of life for a really crappy one
Dwight wrote:
> Right on-I too am off to local farmers. Destruction of mom and pos was
> diabolical plot by evil W's and other big boxes.
> Conspiracy rant off.
The term we tried to invent 8 years ago (on banned) is wallyrigged.
Maybe it can stick this time.
mao
Theres a limit.
15 years ago I needed a starter for my kids POS Ford Escort. $150
Rebuilt from local parts store, owed by a friend. Same friend had
wanted to retire and sell me the store. I read the writing on the wall,
had no interest.
I pulled starter, it was cooked.
Local MotorMart so
List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
what i'm saying is that it compromises our ability to fully commit to
quality. a place like autohausaz shows up selling bosch at roughly their
cost, which, as a bosch distributor, is lower than any mom and pop can buy
it for. they have access to mi
z.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Knoble
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 11:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
--
From: "Gary Hurst"
> the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
>
what i'm saying is that it compromises our ability to fully commit to
quality. a place like autohausaz shows up selling bosch at roughly their
cost, which, as a bosch distributor, is lower than any mom and pop can buy
it for. they have access to millions of dollars in financing, so they can
sprea
--
From: "Gary Hurst"
the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
made the internet so charming in earlier days.
IMHO, the destruction of mom and pop d
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From: "Allan Streib"
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 8:54 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
"Peter T. Arnold" writes:
HIgh quality OEM hydraulic p
no, i'm saying that continued focus on the cost "bottom line" will end you
up in a world where you cannot get any quality either in product or
service. the consumer is now doing the exact same thing he did to destroy
downtown america to destroy the downtown small town component that really
made th
No, Peter said that remanufacturing can be done properly and result in a
serviceable product. He additionally said that he got quality remans
from Rusty.
You seem to be saying that the only choices are some slave-child-labor,
questionable quality reman, or new.
Allan
Gary Hurst writes:
> pete
Hendrik & Fay writes:
> Using gasoline to clean the gunk is not a good idea because it is oil
> based and will leave a residue.
I cleaned the rotors with brake cleaner after the gasoline treatment.
Allan
--
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___
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For new and
Having just come across this evil stuff, I cleaned one rotor and then
found a little note in the ATE box to say that stuff does not need to be
removed. The instructions which I read beforehand did say to remove the
gunk if your rotors are not high performance (ie drilled and cross cut).
Using g
peter misses the point. some 8 year old chinese kids can do a better job in
12 minutes than others can. or maybe the kid can have good days or bad
days? it is a dicey process and not conducive to an overall quality
experience. this has absolutely nothing at all to do with rusty. it is
about ho
"Peter T. Arnold" writes:
> HIgh quality OEM hydraulic parts can be rebuilt, every airplane you've
> flown in has them. Got to be: cleaned, honed, inspected for pits,
> reassembled with high quality seals, tested and appropriately stored.
> After all of that, they have to be properly installed &
M
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
i'm very careful when i mess with rebuilt calipers and generally don't like
to buy or sell them. back in the day, before benzbin and, particularly,
autohausaz walmarted a receptive public with cheap indian and chinese cra
M
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
HIgh quality OEM hydraulic parts can be rebuilt, every airplane you've
flown in has them. Got to be: cleaned, honed, inspected for pits,
reassembled with high quality seals, tested and appropriately stored.
After al
HIgh quality OEM hydraulic parts can be rebuilt, every airplane you've
flown in has them. Got to be: cleaned, honed, inspected for pits,
reassembled with high quality seals, tested and appropriately stored.
After all of that, they have to be properly installed & bleed.
I bought Reman calipers
i'm very careful when i mess with rebuilt calipers and generally don't like
to buy or sell them. back in the day, before benzbin and, particularly,
autohausaz walmarted a receptive public with cheap indian and chinese crap,
rusty and i wouldn't even sell rebuilt calipers unless our arms were twist
ouroil.net
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From: "OK Don"
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:32 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT
That's what post-it notes on the side of the monitor are for
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:31 AM, LarryT wrote:
>
> I wish Rustys site had a Wish List that lasted even when we log out! I
> often have a few small things to order the next time I need something big
> but always forget about them
Pistons rusted and siezed in the bore. Won't move. It was the "inside"
piston on all four calipers. Never seen anything like it.
Allan
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:31 -0400, "LarryT" wrote:
> Hi Allan, You wrote <>
>
> How did they fail?
>
> I'm rebuilding a pair of front W123 calipers right
eib"
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:18 PM
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
OK Don writes:
Perhaps get a rebuild kit for the old caliper from Rusty - now that
you've bought some time. It might be better than the one you
bought. It&
OK Don writes:
> Perhaps get a rebuild kit for the old caliper from Rusty - now that
> you've bought some time. It might be better than the one you
> bought. It's not that hard to rebuild one.
There's a 50 core refund I'd give up. Plus the cost of the kit. Not
worth it. They were rebuilds too
Perhaps get a rebuild kit for the old caliper from Rusty - now that you've
bought some time. It might be better than the one you bought. It's not that
hard to rebuild one.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> Well the rotors and pads measured identical. So must be the caliper.
Well the rotors and pads measured identical. So must be the caliper. I
ground the pads a bit and got the whole assembly to slide over the
rotor. It's still dragging -- much tighter than the passenger side.
Once I get the system bled and a few start-stops I'll see how much it
still drags. I thin
Do the rotors have a "lip" on them from wear? I didn't believe that high
strength metal would "flow" except when heated with a torch until a front
stub axle on the '83 300D that had overheated obviously "flowed" enough to
prevent a new bearing race being installed. (The problem was solved by
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
For the rear pads, they were shrink-wrapped as two pairs of pads.
The fronts were four pads loose in the box. I've had a look at the pads
and don't see any distinguishing marks like direction arrows, "L" vs.
"R" markings, etc.
I wi
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:28 -0400, "Rich Thomas"
wrote:
> Hmmm, I am thinking that if you bevel them more, then they will fit!
>
> I had to do that on some pads I put on some vehicle, can't remember
> which, but that gave them enough bite to then be shoved on in. The
> Akebono pads must be a b
Hmmm, I am thinking that if you bevel them more, then they will fit!
I had to do that on some pads I put on some vehicle, can't remember
which, but that gave them enough bite to then be shoved on in. The
Akebono pads must be a bit higher quality.
--R
Allan Streib wrote:
The Akebono pads ar
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
> [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:03 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
>
> Had the pads out again and wa
The Akebono pads are beveled out of the box...
Allan
--
1983 300D
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:08 -0400, "Rich Thomas"
wrote:
> Did you bevel the edge a bit to get them started in there? Just with
> a file or coarse sandpaper.
>
> --R
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
> > Had the pads out again and was on the
ssage-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 9:03 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] brake job nightmare
Had the pads out again and was on the pistons with a pry bar and a C
cl
Did you bevel the edge a bit to get them started in there? Just with a
file or coarse sandpaper.
--R
Allan Streib wrote:
Had the pads out again and was on the pistons with a pry bar and a C clamp...
they are definitely fully retracted.
Allan
--
1983 300D
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:19 -0400, "a
Had the pads out again and was on the pistons with a pry bar and a C clamp...
they are definitely fully retracted.
Allan
--
1983 300D
On Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:19 -0400, "archer" wrote:
>
> Thought I had the same problem on 123 calipers. Stuck a large
> screwdriver in and levered the piston furth
Thought I had the same problem on 123 calipers. Stuck a large screwdriver
in and levered the piston further into the caliper. After that the pad on
that side was tight but it went in with a little tapping and repositioning.
The other side seemed to be stuck and didn't want to move with the
OK Don writes:
> Not that I've ever seen --- I' betting on a defect reman caliper, or a
> disk that's too thick.
Well I've got to get back on the road... guess in the morning I'll grind
the pads a little.
Allan
--
1983 300D
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For n
Not that I've ever seen --- I' betting on a defect reman caliper, or a disk
that's too thick.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> Just got to wondering, are there "inside" and "outside" pads? I did not
> pay any attention to which two pads I grabbed for the right side, could
Just got to wondering, are there "inside" and "outside" pads? I did not
pay any attention to which two pads I grabbed for the right side, could
it be that they are different thicknesses?
Jim Cathey writes:
>> regreased and back together with new rotor. Trying to install the new
>> caliper and
Jim Cathey writes:
>> regreased and back together with new rotor. Trying to install the new
>> caliper and pads, they will not slip over the rotor.
>
> Caliper pucks not fully retracted? These are rebuilts?
They are rebuilts. I think they are fully retracted but that is worth
checking again.
regreased and back together with new rotor. Trying to install the new
caliper and pads, they will not slip over the rotor.
Caliper pucks not fully retracted? These are rebuilts?
-- Jim
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For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz
Well my brake replacement has turned into an all-day nightmare.
First I realized I didn't get the grease and wheel bearing seals I
thought I otdered. I checked the invoice and they weren't listed.
Somebody messed up, not sure who..
Calling around on Labor day to see who has seals. Autozone has
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