Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread Gerry Archer
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how effective a carpet type steam cleaner would be in the engine compartment. Gerry

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread dseretakis
that I've seen advertised on TV? Blasts the crud off tile grout and small kitchen floor areas etc. Manfred Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:24:41 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread Jon Agne
List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how effective a carpet type steam cleaner would be in the engine

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread Mitch Haley
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: How about a DIY car wash bay. I did a quick and dirty cleanup of the top of my engine before my timing chain replacement a few weeks ago. Worked pretty well. I did that weekly to the only car I bought new, until an underhood relay failed at two years. Probably

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread dseretakis
Yes, this is best reserved for purely mechanical cars such as 123 diesels. A friend did it on a 560SEC and fried the ECU. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: How about a DIY car wash bay. I did a quick and dirty

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT wash your mouth out

2013-02-07 Thread Hendrik and fay
Obviously this where this makes another appearance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMVSXi2JgpY Hendrik who doesn't pressure washer much On 08/02/13 00:18, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, this is best reserved for purely mechanical cars such as 123 diesels. A friend did it on a 560SEC and

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread Gerry Archer
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how effective a carpet type steam cleaner would

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT wash your mouth out

2013-02-07 Thread dseretakis
Italian plates. Maybe a mobster cleaning up after a crime. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Obviously this where this makes another appearance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMVSXi2JgpY Hendrik who doesn't pressure washer much

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-07 Thread dseretakis
off tile grout and small kitchen floor areas etc. Manfred Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:24:41 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT wash your mouth out

2013-02-07 Thread Dieselhead
Obviously this where this makes another appearance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMVSXi2JgpY Hendrik who doesn't pressure washer much What sez its his car? Maybe he is the valet or shofer. Maybe it is the mother in law's car. ___

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2013-02-06 Thread Gerry Archer
From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Have you thought about coating the cad plated bits with a clear satin lacquer? Eastwood sells this stuff. I do it occasionally to parts when I replace them. It actually works pretty well and you can't see it. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2013, at 6:18 PM,

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2013-02-06 Thread Gerry Archer
The Eastwood lacquer sounds like a good idea once the parts are clean. I rubbed the top of the cruise control unit with a Scotchbrite pad and got it down to shiny aluminum, but there's no way to clean it with Scotchbrite or any other abrasive cleaner down in the inaccessible place without

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread WILTON
, February 05, 2013 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT So, are our MB rotary compressors, scroll, screw, or the 2 rotating element type? You're right - the hydraulic pumps and hydraulic motors I was familiar with on B-47's and B-52's are axial with ROTATING cam or swash plate, of course

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas
In an attempt to power my supersonic propeller in the aero lab in college I hooked up a hydraulic motor, probably torn out of some piece of surplus or crashed aviation equipment, to a large hydraulic pump and proceeded to blow up the pump, which was as described below. It is actually a quite

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread MG
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how effective a carpet type steam cleaner would be in the engine compartment. Gerry

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2013-02-06 Thread dseretakis
Get some Purple Power degreaser. Spray on engine wait awhile. Hose off. Very good stuff. Or if you want to be kind to the environment, spray on, wait, wipe with paper towels. Repeat several times then spray again and rinse with hose. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 6, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Gerry

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2013-02-06 Thread Rich Thomas
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how effective a carpet type steam cleaner would be in the engine compartment. Gerry

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2013-02-06 Thread Max Dillon
off tile grout and small kitchen floor areas etc. Manfred Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:24:41 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners

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2013-02-06 Thread clay monroe
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:24:41 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread Mike Esh
: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't know how

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread Gerry Archer
cleaners that I've seen advertised on TV? Blasts the crud off tile grout and small kitchen floor areas etc. Manfred Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:24:41 -0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread Gerry Archer
I'll try that and report back. Gerry From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Get some Purple Power degreaser. Spray on engine wait awhile. Hose off. Very good stuff. Or if you want to be kind to the environment, spray on, wait, wipe with paper towels. Repeat several times then spray again and rinse with

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-06 Thread dseretakis
-0500 From: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Has anyone had experience with these light duty steam cleaners? The ones I used in years gone by were very large units heated with kerosene, so I don't

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT kinda grumpy

2013-02-05 Thread Hendrik and fay
Dog slobber is the go. Hendrik who is going to get in trouble On 05/02/13 14:09, Gerry Archer wrote: What do you use to get your engines so shiny-bright, Jamie? Others? I used steam cleaners when they were around years ago but haven't found anything halfway as good since then. Gerry

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2013-02-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its easy, just take everything apart and clean it piece by piece :-) I had done a valve job on this car when I bought it and went through everything carefully. I replaced lots of little bits, and cleaned everything as I went along. The valve cover was done with a soft abrasive wheel of some

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-05 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks, Jamie, but I was looking for some sort of cleaner that would shine up the anodized aluminum as well as the less shiny parts. Gerry From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com Its easy, just take everything apart and clean it piece by piece :-) I had done a valve job on this car when I

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT kinda grumpy

2013-02-05 Thread Gerry Archer
Tried that this morning, Hendrik, and it worked fine; but when I drove to the store it tried to mate with a 450SL. Took two wreckers to get it down and the SL owner was very upset. Gerry From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com Dog slobber is the go. Hendrik who is going to get in trouble On

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-05 Thread Dan Penoff
Anodized aluminum such as what MB used for window moulding is notoriously difficult, almost impossible, to shine up once the finish has started to oxidize. There used to be a trick where you cleaned it as well as possible then put a clear finish on it. It actually looked pretty decent, but

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-05 Thread Gerry Archer
The valve cover looks anodized but with a lot of embedded dirt that doesn't come off with parts cleaner. Next time I have the valve cover off I'll try yours and Jamies technique. Know what you mean about anodized trim. It was the same situation back when nearly everyone had aluminum frame

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-05 Thread Dieselhead
Its easy, just take everything apart and clean it piece by piece :-) I had done a valve job on this car when I bought it and went through everything carefully. I replaced lots of little bits, and cleaned everything as I went along. The valve cover was done with a soft abrasive wheel of some

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-05 Thread Curt Raymond
York compressors are less likely to die from a poorly done 134a conversion because they have a sump with oil in it. -Curt Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 23:23:17 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: fab17410

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 02/02/2013 1:24 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/automobiles/a-mercedes-with-tenure.html the author mentions that the Dr. regretted not getting the car with air conditioning if you look at the photos, the under hood shows an AC compressor with no belt

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I dunno but a rotary compressor is apparently a common retrofit for an old York. -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:36:45 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 510fe39d.9020...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread dseretakis
-0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 510fe39d.9020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/02/2013 1:24 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Randy Bennell
rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 510fe39d.9020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/02/2013 1:24 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
but a rotary compressor is apparently a common retrofit for an old York. -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:36:45 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 510fe39d.9020...@bennell.ca

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Dan Penoff
...@yahoo.com wrote: I dunno but a rotary compressor is apparently a common retrofit for an old York. -Curt Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 10:36:45 -0600 From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID

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2013-02-04 Thread WILTON
I like continuous rotary motion much better than recip motion. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Yorks are bulletproof but very

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2013-02-04 Thread Randy Bennell
On 04/02/2013 3:18 PM, WILTON wrote: I like continuous rotary motion much better than recip motion. Wilton So, you looking to swap your Benz for a Mazda with a rotary engine? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com

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2013-02-04 Thread Benz Hogs
Can you give us more details? Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (161,xxx mi) On 2/4/2013 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Yorks are bulletproof but very inefficient. Rotaries are far more efficient and take up less space. I have done a couple of conversions from York to Nippondenso

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread WILTON
No, I'm not THAT fond of rotary; I THOUGHT somebody'd come back with that. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT On 04/02

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Randy Bennell
: [MBZ] nice article BUT On 04/02/2013 3:18 PM, WILTON wrote: I like continuous rotary motion much better than recip motion. Wilton So, you looking to swap your Benz for a Mazda with a rotary engine? Randy ___ How about a nice VW bug with a radial engine

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread WILTON
, in that respect, they're not true rotary in the sense of Wankel or gas turbine. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT On 04/02/2013 5

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2013-02-04 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I had a Sanden AC compress fitted in my early W108 in place of the york. A local AC shop helped me spec it out. I installed an AC accumulator like the ones found on American cars, and replaced the expansion valve with an orifice tube. Charged with Freeze12. I put a large W126 condensor fan in

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Dieselhead
Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT On 04/02/2013 3:18 PM, WILTON wrote: I like continuous rotary motion much better than recip motion. Wilton So, you

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Curt Raymond
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 52ab1277-36bc-40dc-b2e2-09eff57b3...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii I thought the Yorks were pretty bulletproof. Why retrofit with a rotary? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 4, 2013, at 1

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2013-02-04 Thread OK Don
You're thinking of an axial engine*,* of which there are several variations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swashplate_engine On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: No, thanks. I just like a rotary-type compressor more so than the pounding/banging recip ones, actually,

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2013-02-04 Thread Craig
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:28:06 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: It was wonderful... I had that system so cold I could get the chrome on the dash over the vents to frost over. And driving in traffic was no issue thanks to the fan and higher idle speed. Before the conversion,

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Thanks... those photos were tanken just after I mounted the compressor, so the lines weren't attached yet. I had to have new hoses made up. The gold cylinders were just caps on the connections. Lots of Yorks had two belt groves also, so its not far off. Jaime On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:02 PM,

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2013-02-04 Thread Craig
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:11:25 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks... those photos were tanken just after I mounted the compressor, so the lines weren't attached yet. I had to have new hoses made up. The gold cylinders were just caps on the connections. Lots of Yorks had

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Gerry Archer
Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 510fe39d.9020...@bennell.ca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed On 02/02/2013 1:24 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/automobiles/a-mercedes-with-tenure.html the author mentions that the Dr

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread Gerry Archer
What do you use to get your engines so shiny-bright, Jamie? Others? I used steam cleaners when they were around years ago but haven't found anything halfway as good since then. Gerry From: Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com I had a Sanden AC compress fitted in my early W108 in place of the

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread dseretakis
is running. I guess it sucks down a bunch more power too. -Curt Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 14:01:15 -0500 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 52ab1277-36bc-40dc-b2e2-09eff57b3...@yahoo.com Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-04 Thread WILTON
...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT You're thinking of an axial engine*,* of which there are several variations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swashplate_engine On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:07 PM

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2013-02-04 Thread Rick Knoble
On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: What do you use to get your engines so shiny-bright, Jamie? Others? He finds really low mileage cars. :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts

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2013-02-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I like continuous rotary motion much better than recip motion. I've never seen an automotive compressor that wasn't reciprocating. The number and type of pistons vary, as does the rotary/reciprocating conversion mechanism, but there are still pistons. 10, in the case of our Nippondensos. If

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-02 Thread Curt Raymond
A rotary compressor no less, that car surely came with a York piston jobbie. -Curt Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 02:24:57 -0500 From: Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] nice article BUT Message-ID: 8bc5f3ba-8fc6-468a-b894-0d65778f7...@aol.com Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-02 Thread Jim Cathey
'Strange that a glow plug READY light would turn red. A red light to me has always meant DANGER - STOP - TAKE CARE OF PROBLEM, etc. Red also stands for heat, fire, etc. It's hot, let's go! Or perhaps STOP glowing! I'm OK with red. -- Jim ___

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2013-02-02 Thread WILTON
] nice article BUT 'Strange that a glow plug READY light would turn red. A red light to me has always meant DANGER - STOP - TAKE CARE OF PROBLEM, etc. Red also stands for heat, fire, etc. It's hot, let's go! Or perhaps STOP glowing! I'm OK with red. -- Jim

[MBZ] nice article BUT

2013-02-01 Thread Rick Hawkins Java
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/automobiles/a-mercedes-with-tenure.html the author mentions that the Dr. regretted not getting the car with air conditioning if you look at the photos, the under hood shows an AC compressor with no belt thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins