On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:15:25 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> The OpenBSD group chose to take that as a deliberately spiteful
>missle targeting them.
>Maybe that is because OpenBSD is the closet to meeting Richard's
>standards,
>Maybe it is because, my reading of most of this thread is
Marco Peereboom wrote:
>>
>> I am not changing the meaning of words, for the most part I am taking
>> your words, with your meanings, and applying them consistently
>> to your system, until it produces a contradiction.
>> If your words, your definitions and your values were consistent
>> no contrad
To copy someone else's treatment of one of my mails... :)
On Dec 17, 2007 1:15 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No one has told you what must or must not do.
> This whole thread started as a knee jerk reaction to Richard's
> to a very short remark by Richard on BSDTa
Rod Whitworth wrote:
> You wrote about a port of a program designed to mailbomb Jewish sites.
>
That was an extreme hypothetical chosen to make a point..
Apparently Theo has used an even more extreme on in the past.
> A total wanker dream not a thing that would ever be submitted. Probabl
Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> On Dec 15, 2007 10:56 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Bengt Frost wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrb
>>>
>>> Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
>>> be up to me to choose what i
Firas Kraiem wrote:
>
> However, and that's the difference with people like you (and RMS), they
> just consider that it doesn't give them the right to impose their view
> of freedom on others, and they let the user do whatever the hell he/she
> wishes to do, according to his/her personal view an
Richard,
I have followed this thread for the first couple hundred mails. But,
as the noise is getting to much for me, someone that is just a lurker,
so I feel I must make a couple comments and a request.
As your views on open-source have become more and more extreme over
time, you have becom
Oh, well, as always YMMV. For my printing needs my Brother hasn't so
much as burped.
On Dec 16, 2007 9:09 PM, Chris Cappuccio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible. I can't print more then
> 15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes Now that HP is
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:09:01 -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
>You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible. I can't print more then
>15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes Now that HP is
>joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.
Have a look at Kyocera. Every model I have tri
You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible. I can't print more then
15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes Now that HP is
joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.
Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:20:19PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> >
> >> That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
> >> what I was looking for - something that is c
On Dec 16, 2007 7:49 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
> $ grep sort ~/.muttrc
>
> set sort="threads"
>
> Now just watch the fun.
>
> Whenever you see a thread with the favorite subject line or as soon as
> you read the
On Dec 15, 2007 10:56 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bengt Frost wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrb
>
> > Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
> > be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install packages through
> > p
thank you!
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 08:19:32AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
> I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
>
> I can give a lot of relief to those of you who had nervous breakdowns
> and blood pressure problems due to spam mails getting in the way of
> useful t
On 12/17/07, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yet you are seeking to deny the same freedom to Richard and everyone
> else that disagrees.
No-one is trying to deny RMS the freedom to say and think whatever the
hell he wants, no matter how wacky.
---
Lars Hansson
David:
Do you even use OpenBSD ? I've been using it for many many years. What
stake do you have in this discussion ?
--- Marina Brown
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:13:49PM +0100, knitti wrote:
> On 12/14/07, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
> > have a serious question. I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
> > developers, and contractors. No coding stan
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:20:19PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports that
> is acceptable.
Sure, why not? If you could get the linux kernel (e.g. with the nVidia
blob) to compile on OpenBSD and run an OpenBSD userland, why not
On Dec 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
You believe in absolute freedom - freedom to do whatever you damn well
please.
I really fail to see the problem with that but whatever.
Yet you are seeking to deny the same freedom to Richard and everyone
else that disa
On Monday 17 December 2007 03:44:39 Rod Whitworth wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:20:19 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> >So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports
> > that is acceptable.
> >You are trying to argue both pragmatism and principle concurrently,
> >You are obv
I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
I can give a lot of relief to those of you who had nervous breakdowns
and blood pressure problems due to spam mails getting in the way of
useful technical stuff.
It is not hard at all.
First thing is install mutt from packages.
# pkg_a
After I update to -current and run X sans config as root, I lose
video signal and only a reboot brings it back. A surfeit of information
follows.
OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1: Sun Dec 16 11:40:55 PST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 3461865472
On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:27 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
William Boshuck wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
[quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
Ray Percival wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all
>>> (be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it,
>>> including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby
>>> mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped
On Sunday 16 December 2007 23:24:48 David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Ray Percival wrote:
> > On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> >> Marco Peereboom wrote:
> >>> You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular
> >>> weapon and you have the choice to retain the source cod
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:20:19 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
>So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports that
>is acceptable.
>You are trying to argue both pragmatism and principle concurrently,
>You are obviously free to try but it makes things very easy for me.
What th
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:27:21 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
>Regardless, apply it to ports and remove non-free URL's.
Yeah, right.
Right when you get commit privs.
Don't ^W hold your breath.
Rod/
/earth: write failed, file system is full
cp: /earth/creatures: No space left on device
On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:20 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is
exactly
what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent
from th
William Boshuck wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
>
>> Ray Percival wrote:
>>
> [quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
>http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
> ...
>
>>> But software which Ope
Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
>
>> That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
>> what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the
>> OpenBSD web site.
>> If it is what OpenBSD bel
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Richard appears to have explained how when free software programs
support
already-known non-free operating systems, that will not lead to
people not
already using those OS to start using them - but b
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Ray Percival wrote:
[quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
...
> > But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all
>
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Richard appears to have explained how when free software programs support
already-known non-free operating systems, that will not lead to people not
already using those OS to start using them - but by in
Hannah Schroeter wrote:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
No need to invent yet another kind of wheel, in my eyes.
S/he will find it interesting if s/he is a wo/man.
This contains the obnoxious GNU/Linux slash.
Yee and uman is superior.
(GNU/Linux should really be called: BSD/G
Deanna Phillips wrote:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
Har, har.
Just use "they".
The problem with they is..
They are coming over.
: Oh, are they?
No. It's just one person!
: But you said they?
Yes.. I said they are coming over.
: You mean they is coming over?
No, they
So what it still is a stupid and hypocritical explanation. RMS is full
of it.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:14:36PM -0800, davelab6 wrote:
> Rico Secada wrote:
> >
> > Dear Richard unless you actually address the above mentioned issues, in
> > context of the e-mail from Theo, you will look hypocrit
I feel personally attacked by your uneducated comments. I feel
personally insulted by your by your condescending tone. My intelligence
has been insulted repeatedly by your linguistic tricks. I am outraged
on how you alter meaning of words to fit your agenda. You are not my
mom and you don't get
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
> what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the
> OpenBSD web site.
> If it is what OpenBSD beleives - have the balls to say so,
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:58:10PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Marco Peereboom wrote:
> > You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
> > you have the choice to retain the source code.
> >
> > You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
> > p
badeguruji wrote:
does this also affects folks who are using it on openbsd?
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01299773
That page says it's CVE-2007-4995:
http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4995
Based on the dates OpenBSD fixed it
On 12/16/07, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is also inconsistent with providing URL's to software that is not
> free to all.
not at all. openbsd is free. other software, that is not free, does
not make openbsd less free.
does this also affects folks who are using it on openbsd?
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01299773
thx.
BG
~~Kalyan-mastu~~
On Dec 16, 2007, at 2:24 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular
weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the
Hi!
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:33:25AM +1100, mufurcz wrote:
>New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
>`transylvania.org.au` zone
>but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
>[...]
>-
>lookup local server(s):
>---
Ray Percival wrote:
>
> On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
>
>> Marco Peereboom wrote:
>>> You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
>>> you have the choice to retain the source code.
>>>
>>> You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a d
Richard Stallman wrote:
The GNU Project campaigns to give software users these two essential
freedoms and two essential requirements:
Freedom 0: the freedom to run the program as you wish.
Freedom 1: the freedom to study the source code and change it
so it does what you wish.
Requirement 2: th
Hi!
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:26:17AM -0700, L wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
>>>Actually I'm not a man at all.
>>>Not all people who are in software are men.
>This an interesting point..
>I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
>h
Rico Secada wrote:
>
> Dear Richard unless you actually address the above mentioned issues, in
> context of the e-mail from Theo, you will look hypocritical! You say
> what you don't do yourself.
>
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Ric
OpenBSD 4.2 (RAMDISK_CD) #468: Tue Aug 28 11:02:17 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 3 GHz
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FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR
misc@ doesn't allow attachments, pasting it in the message body will be fine.
On 2007/12/16 22:32, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
> 2007/12/15, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Nobody can tell from the information you included - send the dmesg...
>
> # cat dmesg | grep acx
> acx0 at pci2 dev 9
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 01:10:54PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
> > All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
> > we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
> > It is mandatory. We use bsd and some
On Dec 16, 2007 8:35 PM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although I'm sure it's convenient for most of the world to think that
> free software and open source originated solely in the Linux and GNU
> projects...
>
> They won't get that idea from me. I tell people regularl
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon
and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided you deliver the sou
On Sunday 16 December 2007 19.02.46 Hannah Schroeter wrote:
> Hi!
>
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:45:05PM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote:
> >On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
> >> I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
> >> 4.0 and one 4.1.
> >>
> >>
On 12/14/07, bofh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
> have a serious question. I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
> developers, and contractors. No coding standards and all that, so,
> things are... messy.
>
> I'm not in ch
The chinese have this phrase "the flames cover the eyes".
I think uninterested 3rd parties who're shown a copy of what was
originally said, and a copy of this thread would probably not conclude
that rms is trying to disparage OpenBSD. Seriously.
Remember, his "I cannot recommend $X" includes mos
The reasons I've are:
Need to support commercial packages
Linux is more mainstream
Debian has a maintenance program in place (ie, security patches are
back ported to supported platforms)
Longetivity of a particular level of release
And... Hell of a lot of "opensource" programmers think cross-plat
2007/12/15, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Nobody can tell from the information you included - send the dmesg...
# cat dmesg | grep acx
acx0 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 "TI ACX111" rev 0x00: irq 11
acx0: ACX111, radio Radia (0x16), EEPROM ver 5, address 00:0f:3d:58:67:a1
acx0: watchdog timeo
Darrin Chandler wrote:
>
> I judge people less by how much they agree with my own views than by how
> they adhere to their own. If I don't agree with someone but they stand
> by their principles then at least I know where they stand and that they
> have honor.
>
There is plenty of information o
Marco Peereboom wrote:
> You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
> you have the choice to retain the source code.
>
> You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
> provided you deliver the source code with it.
>
Agreed, but would you except e
No No NO. You miss the point. GNU is fighting for their view
of freedom. Not *real* freedom.
The GNU Project campaigns to give software users these four essential
freedoms:
Freedom 0: the freedom to run the program as you wish.
Freedom 1: the freedom to study the source code and change i
Although I'm sure it's convenient for most of the world to think that
free software and open source originated solely in the Linux and GNU
projects...
They won't get that idea from me. I tell people regularly in my
speeches that I found a free software operating system in use at MIT
w
Well, no, you may. The problem is when two people sling poop on each other,
sooner or later it ends, and then all you've got is two guys standing
there looking
sheepish, all covered with poop.
I have carefully avoided personal attacks in this discussion. I have
not attacked OpenB
bofh wrote:
> Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
> have a serious question.
thank goodness. :)
> I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
> developers, and contractors. No coding standards and all that, so,
> things are... messy.
>
> I'm not in charge of d
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 03:36:21AM +, Gilbert Fernandes wrote:
Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
It
On Dec 16, 2007 2:02 PM, Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> L writes:
>
> > Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
>
> Har, har.
>
> Just use "they".
>
> It used to be considered poor English to use "they" when
> speaking of a single person, but the language has evolved.
>
Actual
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:01:53AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 12:11:16AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> > ...
> > All of that is called free speech. The right of OpenBSD to be
> > "mean", The right to spray views you do not like or people you think are
> > idiot
L writes:
> Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
Har, har.
Just use "they".
It used to be considered poor English to use "they" when
speaking of a single person, but the language has evolved.
I did not find the thread title objectionable; in fact I found
it humorous that anyone thoug
On Dec 16, 2007 1:26 PM, L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
> I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
>
> http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=The-He-She-Woman-Man-Problem-Solved
>
> Yee will find it interesti
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 03:36:21AM +, Gilbert Fernandes wrote:
> Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
> All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
> we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
> It is mandatory. We use bsd and some debian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
Actually I'm not a man at all.
Not all people who are in software are men.
This an interesting point..
I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=The-He-She-Woman-Man-Pr
Hi!
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:45:05PM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote:
>On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
>> I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
>> 4.0 and one 4.1.
>> First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
>> Then a "make obj &
On Sunday 16 December 2007 17.45.05 you wrote:
> On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
> > 4.0 and one 4.1.
> >
> > First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
> > Then a "make obj &&
new_guy wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I just received an old Sun Netra T1 (105) that has an older version of
> Solaris (SunOS 5.9). It has two 18GB SCSI drives, no cd or floppy drives.
> There is a serial/LOM port that I can access and dual Ethernet ports. I can
> get the ok prompt (Stop-A), the LOM promp
Also, if you're going to be administering DNS you might want to
consider picking up a copy of the venerable DNS and BIND.
-Josh
On Dec 16, 2007 11:54 AM, Darren Spruell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 16, 2007 8:33 AM, mufurcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > New DNS server
On Dec 16, 2007 8:33 AM, mufurcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
> `transylvania.org.au` zone
> but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
> # dig transylvania.org.au
> ---
Can you share some of them drugs you are on?
This is some good shit.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:13:24AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >> Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Richard seperated us out. Jack, don't go telling me that we may not
> >>> rail against Richard
On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
> 4.0 and one 4.1.
>
> First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
> Then a "make obj && make build" of the userland. This gave me the
> following erro
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Each of us should judge Richard according to his own standards,
> words and acts.
Seems like that is precisely what most everybody posting to this
thread had been doing.
Emphasis on the word judge.
Marc Balmer wrote:
Richard Stallman wrote:
I doubt someone who is truly unfriendly could organize a
hackathon, a friendly social event.
He may be perfectly friendly to others. What is relevant is that he
tends to be unfriendly to me.
What is relevant is that you are a hypocrite and
Theo de Raadt wrote:
>> Theo de Raadt wrote:
>>
>>> Richard seperated us out. Jack, don't go telling me that we may not
>>> rail against Richard being a prick.
>>>
>>>
>> Well, no, you may. The problem is when two people sling poop on each other,
>> sooner or later it ends, and then
On 12/15/07, Gregg Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> An advantage of the term "covenanted software" is that it is not
> likely to be construed as necessarily a negative term, and hence might
> be acceptable to RMS et al. A related but less charitable term:
> cultic. Others: the GPL Compact
Hi
I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One 4.0 and one
4.1.
First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
Then a "make obj && make build" of the userland. This gave me the following
error after a while...
--snip--
cc -c -O2 -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr
Hi Girish
Thanks for your response
> I saw the screenshot with the camera. ;)
>
> Try removing USB hubs or any USB devices and boot.
In this moment I don't have any USB devices conected. I tried to start bsd.mp
kernel disabling the USB in the MotherBoard BIOS, but I received the same error
ht
Greetings,
New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
`transylvania.org.au` zone
but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
-
# dig transylvania.org.au
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On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:56:43PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Bengt Frost wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> >
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> > Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
> > be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install p
I am not arguing; you are.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:43:40AM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
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> > Who cares? Opera is also in pots, who cares? I am sure we have
> > more of those things in there. It's exactly the same as having
> > windows bi
Hi guys,
I just received an old Sun Netra T1 (105) that has an older version of
Solaris (SunOS 5.9). It has two 18GB SCSI drives, no cd or floppy drives.
There is a serial/LOM port that I can access and dual Ethernet ports. I can
get the ok prompt (Stop-A), the LOM prompt and boot SunOS in various
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided you deliver the source code with it.
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:56:43PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 12:11:16AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> L wrote:
> >
> > For about 5 years now I've been looking for an operating system that
> > doesn't have the whole freedom of speech attached to it, since I don't
> > fall for that. This recent flamewar simply helped confirm my ins
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
However, I never thought I would have to remind you that BSD IS a
complete OS, kernel and userland standing on his two feets by itself
in one place.
BSD has and still does depend on GCC.
Has anyone on the OpenBSD devel team reviewed the compile
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:07:59 +0100 Rico Secada wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I looked at the http://openbsd.org/i386.html#hardware, but ofcourse it
> doesn't say anything about printers :-)
OpenPrinting.org is pretty good resource for printers, although it
focuses mostly to Linux systems. For example, see
htt
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 08:33:11PM +0300, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
> I've got a D-Link DWL-G520+ wireless acx111-based PCI card. It is
> listed as supported device on acx(4) man page. When I boot up my i386
> box, I get it picked up by acx driver, but when I try to run dhclient
> on acx0, I get no D
He got his cookie for that many years ago.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:52:05AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
> Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> >
> >
> > However, I never thought I would have to remind you that BSD IS a
> > complete OS, kernel and userland standing on his two feets by itself
> > in one p
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:42:06PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Would you mind sharing the recipie ? That sounds like a great idea.
It's rather easy to do. I have done it just for fun.
You can also FTP download using mail. You send commands to a
server, it cuts in pieces the file to download
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:56:52 +0100
Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who am I Theo asked, a big fat nobody (maybe), but I started this
> issue to begin with and after criticizing Theo for being unnecessary
> rude to Richard I have noticed that Richard keeps avoiding the facts!
>
> Richard
On 12/15/07, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I wrote a a BSD Licensed program to mailbomb jews.
> Would that be acceptable within ports ?
Well now, this brings up an interesting point of jurisprudence. To
wit: does Godwin's Law apply here? One might argue that it only
kic
On 12/16/07, David H. Lynch Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> Distribute:
> 4) To pass out or deliver.
>
> By providing URL's in its ports system, OpenBSD distrubutes - passes
> out/delivers,
> the items pointed to by the URL's.
> Some of them are non-free.
Dude, you're a comic genius! Absolut
Richard Stallman wrote:
> > Torvalds' version of Linux is not free software, for this reason.
>> Ututo and gNewSense include a version of Linux which remove the
>> firmware blobs, in order to make it free software.
>
>that's awesome, can users add these back in if they choose?
>
> I
On 2007/12/16 12:22, vladas wrote:
> bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
> inet 192.168.11.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.11.255
> re0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex,rxpau
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