Thanks Steven
As usual, I discovered after my email that qttoy4m (and others) was well
here, but not installed in /usr/local/bin, like if the make install
forgot it ...
I DO promise I did "make install"
I just made a cp to /usr/local/bin
cheers
E
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, E.C
Hi all
Just a quick question, may the compilation problem on debian etch have
side effects lie not compiling qttoy4m
compiling from CVS
Thanks a lot
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Talking of what .
There is a scratch remover under AVISYNTH. for windows...
http://avisynth.org.ru/
Descratch among other filters
Used for Telecine purposes.
Source code is available and for what I can understand (eg very little)
it works by taking in streams...
Would it be diff
I understood it was a standard more than anything else.
Cheers
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Anne Wilson wrote:
> When I create a dvd using mjpegtools and dvd-author I end up with all the
> required files in a directory called VIDEO_TS, and an empty directory called
> AUDIO_TS. I burn all of that to dvd, presuming that a
Hi all
Is there any chance someone has a tool (or knows a tool) that would translate
a SMIL script into a edl CMX3600 file ?
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Thanks for your reply regarding Premiere
Sorry to go via the list, my mails bounce on your adress...
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Hello Matt
Sorry took me a little while to A/ thank you and B/ reply...
As far as I know there is no YUV4MPEG2 --> DV utility...
BUT ... it would not be the first time I make a fool of myself..
> y4mscaler -O preset=DV -O chromass=444
> This will give you DV frame-sizing, but 4:4:4 Y'CbCr
Hi all
I was wondering if you anybody had some experience with Premiere.
Someone here has a mov XGA produced by the MJPEGTOOLS/ libquicktime
uncompressed videos 422 and when it is imported in Premiere then the gamma
correction on Y is giving strange results on colors.
I understand that Premier
G ... I never miss an opportunity to make a fool of myself
> It's being scaled.
> -n- images should be treated as NTSC
> -a- scale image and maintain aspect ratio
misery me no brains no pain
> Better but "wrong"? What particular attribute is "bett
Hi all
I have something odd here.
I get my footage in XGA (1024*768) Mov (422 uncompressed using libquicktime).
If I transform these mov in dv files such as :
qttoy4m my_super8.mov | y4mscaler -O CHROMASS=420jpeg \
| y4mtoppm | \
| ppm2raw -a -2 > my_super8.dv
Well... it works despite no indi
Hi Steven
> Some of the changes Matt made in y4mscaler 9.0 were specifically aimed
> at the problem you were having with larger frame sizes and complex
> scaling factors.
mmm then I must have done something wrong somewhere
> I've been unable to reproduce the problem
:-)
Much clearer indeed !!!
I have changed the y4mscaler to the version 9.0, the problem remains...
I'll try another size of frame, these values were nice since they did cut off
the usual crappy border form 8 and super 8.. but hey, I'll survive !
> (find . -type f | sort | xargs cat) | \
>
Hello Steven and others
> Oh, you've got a problem but I don't think it's with y4mstabilizer ;)
>
> > However, things are getting tricky because when I use stream of a picture
> > of 1244x934 or 1008x764 , guess what ... it works :-)
>
> And that's the type of problem you've had in th
Hi all
Got some troubles here with probably y4mstabilizer
I have been using it daily to stabilise old shaky Super 8, but this time for
whatever reason, it does not work.
script 1 is the faulty one
script 2 is Ok, however I just removed the y4mstabilizer just to make sure
that it was the caus
Hi
Have you tried Cinepaint ?
I got it installed, there is a kind of flipbook in it.
http://cinepaint.org
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Thanks for that ... and the work being done around the mjpegtools...
E
> The output is from a programm from libquicktime, so the libquicktime
> developers would need to change the output.
>
> auf hoffentlich bald,
>
> Berni the Chaos of Woodquarter
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Hi all
Just a vocabulary question.
I am using y4mtoqt to keep my telecined movie frames in 422 with minimal loss
(about 45 Gb per hour in PAL at 17 fps)
Anyway when I use qtinfo I get:
compressor 2vuy
I am not sure if the term compressor is appropriate, shall I understand it as
sumbsampled r
Dam ..
I knew the homepage address was weird
> www.planckenergy.com
Thanks for the reminder
toolame --h will give you the few options ... far more simple than sox ..
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toolame -s 48.0 -b 192 filein.wav fileout.mp2
> It didn't like the mp3 file, so I used wav and mp2enc. Now everything is
> fine, thanks.
>
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Was wondering if it could be possible to cut off a file in several pieces when
using y4mtoqt ?
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If that can help I am transferring movies (8mm, super 8 and 16 mm).
Have a look at my yet untidy website (dvideo.co.nz), the all processing is
done with mjpegtools.
See under samples.
Can you get a progressive source at 16 fps and use either yuvfps or
yuvmotionfps for stable shots ? That
Hi Steven
Sorry for the confusion 8/10 bits.. it is actually 8 bits as you recalled it.
Anyway, the scripts I am using are ending with :
some instructions | y4mscaler -O chromass=422 | y4mtoqt -o test.mov
As for gmerlin I need to give it another go a step at a time.
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There is as well yuvmotionfps which is not included in Jerome's Yuvtools.
As for yuvflip, I use it everyday :-)
#3 can be very useful for us in PAL countries. People from Samoa, Japan etc,
coming here with their camera and unable to watch what they recorded. It has
its use.
May b
Hello Steven
Thanks for the reply
> Wow - those are rather different problems.
Yes ... I realised once I sent the first email.
lets put it this way : is the command -a somewavefile compulsory ? e.g.does qt
absolutely need a soundtrack
If yes then question (mail#) 2 is resolved sinc
> I still have some troubles to run y4mtoqt.
I am not clear enough, sorry.
I can not read files produced with y4mtoqt.
lqtplay is telling me about a bad header and mplayer is running without any
display.
Cheers
E
> What chromass should I feed into it ? I am using 422 and -X
> Thanks
> E
>
>
>
Hi all again
Just to let you know that J.Cornet wrote some nice tools to complete with
mjpegtools, such as yuvmotionfps etc... It could be great to have this
included in the CVS
Have a look at
http://jcornet.free.fr/
MJPEGtools section
Thanks
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What chromass should I feed into it ? I am using 422 and -X
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On Friday 03 Feb 2006 10:38, Nicolas wrote:
> VIDEO: [YV12] 720x576 12bpp 29.970 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Why 29.90 ?? if you want PAL ...make sure you save from
Cinelerra with proper standards for PAL
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Hi all
Libquicktime is supporting 8 bit Packed YUV 4:2:2 (yuv2) in ether encoding and
decoding.
I have been playing a bit with yuv2lav -f q but how can I make sure that my
frames are saved in this YUV 422 rather than 420 (PAL).
Thanks
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it ... so cat works Ok and -name \* as well ... not the "sorting"
But I have it now
Thanks a lot.
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> find cannot be relied upon to return files in alphabetical order, even if
> it does do so in most cases.
>
> Mark
>
> Or perhaps not? The thing you most likely are experiencing is that find
> list all matches i filesystem order, which may or may not be what you want.
> You may be better off with find . -name \*|sort, or, if you don't need the
> recursion, simply ls *.
So between SUSE to Mandrake "find" does not
Hello Mark
> From memory, find uses inode order not alphabetical order.
Well it works on 2 other machines (MDK 10 though, not SuSE10)
> perhaps you could try:
>
> cat * | yuyvto4m ...
Well I ususally have 36000 to 5 files ... too much for "cat" to handle
therfore the need to use find ...
Hi all
This may not be relevant to everybody but ...
I am capturing here YUV frames using Coriander.
On my Athlon 32 it works fine and the used script to buld my movies back is :
(find . -name \* | xargs cat) | yuyvto4m -k -w 1244 -h 934 -a 1:1 -i p -r
16:1 | bunch_of_filters | yuvplay
Let s
does yuv2lav support qt export as said in the man ? I can only get a or A as
export option..
Now did I miss the qt libs when compiling ? I don't think so, but is there a
log I can check this out?
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> or a TBC but that's probably more money than you want to spend ;)
Unless you are familiar with electronics :
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Hey Steven
No, usually being a s***t magnet I just want to make sure before buying one..
I am now stabilising the big frames for some Super 8 mm and it takes too long
with my best machine here... Time to move on to a better one.
Cheers
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> > Hi everyone, are there any problems known with mjpegt
Hi everyone, is there any problems known with mjpegtools and CPU AMD 64 X2 ?
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Thanks Steven for the Chroma stuff, it works pretty good... :-)
I am running a couple of test but overall it looks that it will do the trick.
Will post a couple of scenes
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A couple of question. One of the movie that I got has its colours pretty
washed out.
I think Yuvcorrect would be the tool to boost a bit the chroma.
However the few quick results that I have so show me that I have to (once
again) RTFM a little bit more.
Can someone forward me a link OR (eve
Hi Florin
I think Cinepaint (new version is Glasgow if I remember) can do it.
However The web site is a bit strange and eventually you are not sure what is
available or not... I tried to compile it several times, wihthout much
success... I gave up
If you manage to get it work, please let me know
Hu ?
Dam !!! I still need to boost the bit rate -b 9300 (mute soundtrack though)
to get around -q 3 Ok ... but old movies are quite grainy too...
E
> (-q 3 and the average still came
> out around 4100Kb/s).
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On Thursday 08 Sep 2005 18:24, Steven M. Schultz wrote:
> I maintain
>
> > I will then use DV files and Kino option External monitor.. Get my
> > parameters Ok, then go back to raw data directly to mpeg2enc
>
> That sounds like an excellent idea and should work well (definitely
> a big improvement over relying only on a computer monitor).
Actually I
Hello Steven / List
> Computer screen or TV screen? There's a big difference.
Well I do it on computer screen, but now I know what I'll get.
If it looks Ok on a computer screen it will be far too dark on a TV.
> What does the final MPEG-2 burned to a DVD look like on a TV set?
U
Hi there
I am trying to improve the quality of my movie transfers.
Acquisition at 1392x 1138 gives me quite a good result on my screen. Once
reduced to the PAL standard the all lot is getting darker ... much darker...
Not only that but it seems as well that there is no or very little transition
> Steve Schultz and I have been discussing your problem (it helps when he
> sits three cubicles away at work).
I see
> One approach would be to recognize
> that the movement is not always smooth and continuous, and to treat
> exceptionally large motions (above a threshold) as outliers that must
> If you could get me 20 or 30 seconds of y4m data to test with, I think
> I could drum up some free time over the next week or two to get you
> something that might solve this problem.
already Xmas ??? :-)
Will do thanks ... but take your time I am off for all of July to France.
Thanks heaps
E
> y4mstabilizer works best with 444 progressive material.
I am working in 422 progressive. At least its closer than 420 interlaced
> Life is short and I am very busy. Sorry.)
You already take the time to reply which is great, thanks.
> Hmmm... You have given the jitter *amplitude* (12 pixe
Hi all
Question about y4mstabilizer.
I have a reel here that is REALLY old.
once reshot it does show some jittering (worned out brearing in the movie
camera itself ??).
I have calculated about a dozen pixels for this up/down frequency.
I want to compensate this but not the pannings that the camer
>
> I think it is safe to say that Y, U, and V are not valid options ;)
They were for spatial filter no ?? Was it redudant with y4mspatialfilter ?
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> changes - the "-Y", "-U" and "-V" options no longer exist.
Already I thought the -Y -U -V was explicit and easy to use.
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Thanks Steven ...
That may save me some time actually to put it at the end.. Instead of
conforming the big frames at the beginning.
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Was wondering in yuvdenoise :
-Y 2 -U 5 -V 1 -y 2 -u 5 -v 1
Is it considered as agressive filtering ?
and if yuvcorrect -Y CONFORM should be placed before or after ?
Can't make my mind, results seems really close and the more opinion the better
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For those who are not aware, my favourite hobby is to crash my linux box and therefore to compile mjpeg tools every so often...
today it is not mjpeg tools it is libquicktime :
make gives me :
libtool: link: cannot find the library `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.la'
what should provide this fil
> First - the work is being done in RGB so there's the (lossy) conversion
> from Y'CbCr to RGB. Then the data has to be converted back and while
> that's not lossy there is the problem of accumulated (roundoff) error
> creeping in.
I think the guy wants to write a YUV ver
Worth a look ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=93571
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> Good to hear that you are back in action after the system/disk crash
> of not too long ago.
Wait there is more I will upgrade another one soon :-)
> http://www.mir.com/DMG/ycbcr.html
RTFM Edouard, RTFM
> What is commonly called "YUV" is really Y'CbCr where Cb
Hi all
Still on my way to ge tthe best picts possible from my movies.
Now that I know that one can denoise the chroma and not the luma, I was
wondering what "layer" (U or V) preferentially decribes the blue tones ?
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Nicolas
Drop the deinterlace your computer will do it for you ...
For the black border if you are really missing it :
y4mshift -b 12,12,696,552 (for PAL)
Mind -q 2 for -b 7500, it may be too much q asking for the b value
Add -g 6 -G 9 to maintain fair values of q on P frame, use -R 0 to get rid
Niclaos
You are deinterlacing with yuvdenoise where you probably should not ...
see my previous email, was incomplete
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Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 18:34, Nicolas a écrit :
> yuvdenoise -F |
Ca existe encore dans le CVS ?
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> However I still get that one:
> aclocal: configure.ac: 83: macro `AM_PROG_AS' not found in library
On Mandrake ? Check out for automake, I had 1.4 and 1.7 installed
Get rif of the oldest one
rpm -qa | grep -i automake
# rpm -e oldest-automake
--> my email 2 weeks ago
"After "rpm -qa
> That information should be written in the README.real file... :?
No, it's not up to the developper to clean users systems, e.g. it works
perfectly when you have a properly installed linux box...
But that is only my point of view and may not reflect the maintainer point of
view etc ... usual di
Nicolas à écrit :
> To encode that file:
> nice -19 lav2yuv record_01.avi | y4mshift -n -2 | yuvscaler -I \
> USE_744x560+12+8 -O DVD -M BICUBIC|yuvdenoise -F |yuvmedianfilter -t 0 \
> mpeg2enc -f 8 -c -D 10 -E -10 -q 2 -K tmpgenc -o record_01.m2v
your m2v file is 7.5 Mb/s (-f 8) and you are mult
Hi all
Last point (for today) of my quest.
Once my progressive frames are converted in DV (which hopefully will not last
long), then they are considered interlaced, but are they really ? They may
well be but the fiels are not like a video, therefore I am not sure of what
is happening using a d
Hello Steve
> Which means the 'prediction' (P) frames are decaying and it's time to,
> as you noticed, start a new GOP. A size of 10 is quite reasonable for
> video with a lot of motion.
I don't know if it's an education thing but people were running with their
camera those
Following last week mails due to my poor results
Here is what I am aiming at for the telecine, from various inputs, mostly
Steven Schultz and Steven Boswell, thanks for their time and patience (they
should get an annual award of some sort)
I am using the default values (e.g nothing behind it).
Hi all
Ok went to upgrade to the new CVS after a major crash ...
I have resolved most of the macro troubles with SDL and other stuff (or I
think so)
I still have troubles with AM_PROG_AS. I found a couple of archives about
such as :
mpeg2enc/Makefile.am: The usual way to define `CCAS' is to
>
> Ok. I wonder - is ppm2raw creating 4:1:1 or 420paldv?
Should be PAL, as a -n option is required for NTSC
> That's why there's a choice of scaling kernels - pick the right one
> for the task.
Thanks to Matt, the further it goes the more I appreciate the work put into
this
Hello Steven, thanks for the mail
> y4mscaler will of course convert to "420paldv" but I'm not sure that
> the rest of the tool chain knows about '420paldv'. Feeding 420paldv
> into mpeg2enc is probably not the right thing to do - I think mpeg2enc
> wants 420mpeg2.
Well I
Hi all,
I got rid of my last issues with the telecine acquisition here. Got pnm
frames, scaled down etc.. filtered, all good. Dv files created, look nice.
And once encoded ... it's terrible.
I am using a straight forward command :
yuvdenoise -F -f | mpeg2enc -f 8 -4 2 -2 1 -r 16 -H -g 6 -G
> How does the GIMP version compare to Transcode's unsharp, xsharpen and
> msharpen filters? Does it amplify noise? Or reduce it?
Not sure, but anything I tried with transcode was neither good nor efficient.
I am not checking for any pixels on each frame, I am relying on a general
feeling (I lik
For using the y4munsharp : it is VERY efficient ! Get a frame, play with it
under gimp, get the right parameters and off you go in the pipe
Nothing to do with the one I found in Transcode ! Have not tried Mencoder,
not being fluent in martian yet !
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Yes ... Ok got the (sharp) picture now, thanks a lot
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> It's just informative, it is NOT deinterlacing.
Ok thanks a lot !!
I just put a new mpeg file from a recent Super 8
http://calenduro.free.fr/DEMO
Anything that has "plane" in its name
Now another thing, at the risk of appearing completely dumb, what is the
purpose of y4mspatialfilter
Matt,
A month ago or so I sent a mail to this list sinceI had troubles to scale
down from 1280*960 +/- epsilon to 720*576.
Fixed by telling y4mscaler to use sar=1:1 rather than sar=PAL,
My 2 cts
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pnmtoy4m is detecting frames from my progressive cam as interleaved and
output is progressive..
Is it just informative or is it deinterlacing where it should not ?
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> You can reconstruct _a_ blue from the U and V planes but it won't
> be the _original_ blue.
That is what I was suspecting ...
Ok no other way than working on the RGB before YUV
> Good Luck!
euphemism :-)
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Gday
I think I am gonna be a pain again. Following the setup of my telecine machine
and further readings (yes, I did RTFM on this one), it appears that a movie
media made of several layers does not have the same granularity (which does
obably apply on classic still cameras as well). The blue la
Gday Roine
Well ... If I follow, it sounds to be better off with a couple of nice 32 bits
in cluster mode than a 64 ??
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> Therefore, applications that do not use the larger addressing space
> won't be any faster on a "64 bit operating system". If anything, it
> just means 2x t
>
> Since you are essentially converting PPM->Y4M->PPM, use 4:4:4 sampling
> the whole way. E.g. 'ppmtoy4m -S 444' and leave off the '-O chromass=...'
> for y4mscaler.
Ok got that
and have not tried pnm yet
Thanks for your other mails, just leaving so will RTFM and apply tomorrow
Cheer
> I thought the images you had were 1388x1024 or something like that
> rather than 1280x960?
One step at a time :-) This was a 8 mm has not the same size as Super8 no
need to sample black borders
> What happens if you do not use the 'tl' and let y4mscaler default
same stuff, t
It works fine with yuvscaler and the requested size ...
?
Puzzled me
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Hello Steven
Ok here we go ..
As soon as I get rid of -I active, the thing is going very well :-( ??
Am I using bad values ???
INFO: [y4mscaler] <<< sample aspect ratio: 1:1
INFO: [y4mscaler] Source matte region defaulting to full source frame.
INFO: [y4mscaler] Target interla
Hi
I have troubles using the "active" option from y4mscaler,
When I specify a region : the output is nill, getting rid of the -I active
and I have something
here is my comand line :
(find . -name \*.ppm | xargs cat) | ppmtoy4m -F 25:1 -L -S 420mpeg2 | \
yuvdenoise -F -r 16 -t 2 | y4mscaler -v
So far I am using the following :
( find . -name \*.ppm | xargs cat ) | ppm2raw -a > reelB.dv
and it works fine
Thanks again to all for the advice you gave ...
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> You'd get better speed with something like:
> find -name \*.ppm | xargs -n200 cat | ppmtoy4m
> cat can't take 28800 files on the comm
> Super 8 is an old home movie film format. Based on the info provided, there
> are 6 frames per inch. Not sure about the frame-rate, but I imagine it's
> somewhere around 20 - 30 per second.
18 fps... or ideally 24 fps. Most people were using it at 18 fps, processing
was expensive.
> most like
> ps: If it *is* black&white... try PGM images and the new "pnmtoy4m"!
Thanks Matt, will give a go to it as Steven Shultz already did recommand it
to me...
yes some are B&W
I was wondering if it would be possible to colour them though just for
the technical challenge :-)
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RTFM and behaving myself...
Anyway I have another small thing here.
A 400 ft reel of Super 8 comes to 28800 individual frames, which is obviously
too much to handle for bash/cat
I know that
find . -name \*.tga | xar
> I was curious how the Super8 conversion was going - good to hear it's
> progressed to the stage of encoding the data.
almost there..
> The duplicated frames will compress very well but I agree that the
> motion will not be as smooth.
Well, can not have everything...
Gday
I was wondering what could be the most efficient method to slow down a movie.
I have here some Super 8mm material that I reshoot frame by frame in ppm
files.
The original are playing at a nominal rate of 18 fps.
Once encoded in mpeg2, grany is almost running through the TV screen.
I thou
> Might be a interresting idea to be able to tell yuvfps you own
> resampling style.
Doesn't it exist in Kino ?
That could be another option for me, to convert the all lot in DV then use
the Fx slow down to get a proper speed. Results prove a bit choppy but not
sure that I have a choice right n
Hello Bernhard
Thanks for the mail
> Sorry no idea how to generate DV files.
cat *.ppm | ppm2raw -a | rawmultiply -A file.wav > file.dv
from Smilutils
> Your guess with the FineManual was right, the section "Creating videos
> from images" might be interresting for you.
I will then, thanks :-)
Gday
maybe RTFM again, still, I use Coriander to grab the frames in YUV422. I have
several options as the format I want / need to save each frame.
Either convert an image with Imlib -> I grab in ppm for about 3.5 Mb per
frame ouch !
Or I can dump raw data, or a video sequence
$ file
> aclocal: configure.ac: 313: macro `AM_PATH_SDL' not found in library
> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
He he .. just wen through that.
Figure out where your m4 libraries are with locate
locate *.m4
Then with a bit of luck you'll find (at least) 2 directories, make a link
be
Hi all
A bit of feedback on some of the tools found in the CVS :
* y4munsharp : a must have I am using it on some old S8 mm movies, that
will now be part of the filters as yuvdenoise or y4mdenoise can be
* y4mstabilizer : same thing, for the people that were keen on using long
focals
Hello
thanks for the mail (Steve as well...)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mjpeg_play]$ make
> [...]
> > ../../libtool: ../../libtool: No such file or directory
> Which version auf autoconf, automake, libtool do you have ?
Several of them. Basically ./autogen fails for it can not find SDL because old
Hello
thanks for the mail (Steve as well...)
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mjpeg_play]$ make
> [...]
> > ../../libtool: ../../libtool: No such file or directory
> Which version auf autoconf, automake, libtool do you have ?
Several of them. Basically ./autogen fails for it can not find SDL because old
>Maybe someone else will have some suggestions other >than "install a newer
>system" ;)
Not me. It is eventually quicker and better to move to a recent distribution.
Just done it for exactly the same reasons Just upgrade, intalls are easy
enough (mind initio and SCSI and MDK 10.0 though.
Ma
Thanks Steven
Actually not all binaries are present under mjpeg_play directories.
The usual is here but not the last ones (y4munsharp), so before the last
install stage and ldconfig I just want to make sure that everything is Ok.
My guess is that I have to resolve a lot of confilcts using cervisi
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