Re: CPAN and META.yml: no_index dir vs directory

2006-07-06 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andreas J. Koenig wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:39:06 -0500, Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Jul 5, 2006, at 7:47 PM, David Golden wrote: >> Some potential options: >> >> (a) Add "directory" as a synonym to the spec and add "dir" as >> something that CPAN sites recognize. >

CPAN6 (was: A Semi-Public Version Control Repository for Your CPAN Modules)

2006-06-25 Thread Randy W. Sims
Sam Vilain wrote: If you are in Europe in August, you might like to come to YAPC and see the announcement of cpan6, this concern is included in the design requirements and making small changes to other's code will be natural and safe. http://www.birmingham2006.com/cgi-bin/yapc.pl?act=talk-item&t

Re: Testing an FTP module

2006-04-02 Thread Randy W. Sims
Scott W Gifford wrote: I just uploaded to CPAN some FTP-related modules (Net::FTP::AutoReconnect and Net::FTP::RetrHandle). In one of the unit tests, I connect to ftp.cpan.org and retreive MIRRORED.BY to make sure everything works OK. Just in the last little bit, though, I've noticed that a con

Re: Games::RoundRobin::Schedule or Games::Schedule::RoundRobin

2006-01-30 Thread Randy W. Sims
Dr Bean wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2006, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Dr Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-30 13:30]: Scoring, however, is perhaps another area that could have its own module. However, I think it’s not unnatural in the least to have a Games::RoundRobin for scheduling and Games::RoundRob

Re: Looking for a name for a module

2005-11-12 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Golden wrote: José Castro wrote: - you give it a set of texts (usually two, but can be more) - without knowing the language of each text, the module tells you how likely it is that those texts are translations of each other It would probably be something in the "Text" of "Lingua" na

Re: Module::Build Question: Installing Templates in a user-specifiable directory

2005-09-21 Thread Randy W. Sims
Shlomi Fish wrote: Hi all! Hi Shlomi, Sorry for the delayed response. I've written a module using Module::Build and CGI::Application. I'm using several Template Toolkit templates all placed in one directory. (placed inside the module tree under "./templates/"). I'm setting this template di

Re: Checking for boilerplate

2005-08-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
Wasn't paying attention when I copied prereqs from Makefile.PL Randy W. Sims wrote: 4) Since M::S can generate distros with a Build.PL it might be nice if it also included one. ;) # vi:et:sw=4 ts=4 use strict; use warnings; use 5.6.1; use Module::Build; my $build = Module::Build

Re: Checking for boilerplate

2005-08-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ricardo SIGNES wrote: * Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-22T15:07:47] RJBS and I are going to put some tests into Module::Starter to check for boilerplate. Watch for it tomorrow, maybe tonight. Just a little while ago I uploaded 1.41_01, which adds: * t/boilerplate.t * some bug

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ovid wrote: > --- Ken Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>On Jul 28, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: > > >>That's true. All the smarts could be centralized in the indexer. >> >>But then there's the problem of making sure when someon

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ken Williams wrote: On Jul 28, 2005, at 6:26 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: As far as distinguishing, there a lot of talk in the past in the context of Apache2 about adding a field ("generation") which serves basically the same purpose - It distinguishes between multiple code bases in

Re: Perl6 goes where?

2005-07-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ovid wrote: --- Smylers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Smartening the CPAN and CPANPLUS modules doesn't help the people who've already got them installed are happy using them and haven't encountered a reason to upgrade. Reluctantly agreed. Is there going to be a CPAN BOF at OSCON to discuss th

Re: why not SourceForge?

2005-07-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Mark Stosberg wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 09:50:17AM -0400, Buddy Burden wrote: Brian, Sourceforget sucks. Don't start using it just because I did. :) I'd be really curious to hear your opinions on Sourceforge (there may be a push to force us to start using it here at work). If you don

Re: Request for Comments - Tree::Node module?

2005-07-03 Thread Randy W. Sims
Flavio S. Glock wrote: Randy W. Sims wrote: Note: you must compile Perl and all modules with the same compiler (or C runtime library). I compiled the DateTime module with MingW and CPAN Perl 5.8.7, and the DLL worked with Activestate 5.8.3 (I just copied it to the "auto" subdir

Re: CPAN testers emails

2005-06-29 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ken Williams wrote: Am I supposed to be getting emails from cpan-testers every once in a while? I think I used to get Cc'd on them, but it occurred to me I haven't actually gotten one in like a bajillion (about 2) years. I upload new modules to CPAN about once or twice a week or something.

Re: Request for Comments - Tree::Node module?

2005-06-29 Thread Randy W. Sims
imacat wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:42:32 -0500 (CDT) Randy Kobes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: requests for making up ppm packages. Alternatively, there are free C compilers for Windows, including Visual C++ 7, for people willing to build their own perl. Could you tell me where to obtain

Re: Failing Reports due to 3rd Party Software...

2005-06-19 Thread Randy W. Sims
Barbie wrote: From: "Jos I. Boumans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Why the need for such an immensive framework? to be able to probe for any type of file/function on any type of OS is not going to be trivial. To look for every possibility yes that would be emmense. However, I wasn't expecting to go th

Re: Getopt::Long wishes

2005-06-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-17 17:20]: I can make this information available, if users would be interested. Access to structured data is always nicer than implementing and re-implemeting a parser for its serialized form. So if it doesn’t take too much ef

Re: RFC - a module to generate README from POD

2005-04-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Robert Rothenberg wrote: I'm rather tired of manually editing README files before each release, and do not like using a straight pod2text either, since it contains a lot of superfluous information. > So I'm thinking about writing a module which parses the POD, automatically includes the non-core

Re: Probing requirements

2005-04-08 Thread Randy W. Sims
_brian_d_foy wrote: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Randy W. Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Probe::OS - Gather info on the operating system Probe::Libs Probe::Progs Probe::FileSys - maybe incorporate ideas Schwern posted on p5p recently, Perhaps we can put this under a namespace

Probing requirements (was: Re: Some ideas)

2005-04-08 Thread Randy W. Sims
Robert Rothenberg wrote: I'm all for something like this, though I prefer "requires_libraries" instead. (Listing libraries distinct from applications is a grey area, so best to put them under one term.) Come to think of it, why not "recommends_libraries" too? What is needed is some standard set

Re: RFC: some thoughts about daemons and related modules

2005-03-09 Thread Randy W. Sims
Baltasar Cevc wrote: One possibility would certainly be to "generalize" Net::Daemon to something like a App::Daemon or Proc::Daemon (the latter exists, but has only a limited functionality, concentrates just on the "real daemonizing" and does not take care about PID etc.) or something in that direc

Re: better SEE ALSO sections

2005-02-28 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andrew Savige wrote: Shamless plug: since you are a relative newbie, you might find this article: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=418891 an interesting read, especially the section "Testability and Test Suite". Also check out the perl-qa mailing list for all kinds of testing & quality issues. <

Re: Name for GStreamer bindings

2005-02-26 Thread Randy W. Sims
Torsten Schoenfeld wrote: On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 09:43 +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: use constant Gst=>'Multimedia::Gstreamer'; Gst->new(); I just realized that this won't work. I don't just need Gst to be an alias for Media::GStreamer, I need Gst::* to be an alias for Media::GStreamer::*. Tha

Re: Name for GStreamer bindings

2005-02-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
Torsten Schoenfeld wrote: Aloha, GStreamer is a powerful and pretty popular media framework. GNOME already uses it extensively, and KDE just started to. It's based on GLib and uses its object oriented C API style. The objects have names like GstQueue or GstElement. For similar objects like GtkWi

Re: URLs to Modules

2005-02-07 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andrew Savige wrote: --- Ovid wrote: Perhaps this is a silly question that I should know the answer to, but is there a "canonical" url I can list for a module and always have that point to the latest version? Right now, my choices seem to be: http://search.cpan.org/~$AUTHOR/$MODULE-$VERSION/ Or

search.cpan.org slowdown

2005-01-20 Thread Randy W. Sims
Why is search.cpan.org so slow the last few weeks? The search interface and urls like take forever to load. I feel like I'm connected with an old 600 baud modem. www.cpan.org, etc seem fine. Randy.

Re: When Did a Module Become Core?

2005-01-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
James Keenan wrote: What is the simplest way to determine for a given CPAN module (a) whether it is part of the Perl core; (b) when it became part of the core (i.e., which version of Perl); and (c) which version is considered core?

Re: Subclassing a mailer

2005-01-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
Scott R. Godin wrote: For a project I'm on, I'm pondering whether or not to subclass one of the various Mail::* implementations out there, with an eye for Mail::Mailer. Does anyone have any recommendations in this regard? gotchas & things I should watch out for ? pointers? examples? :) I don't

Re: MakeMaker META.yml and license

2005-01-09 Thread Randy W. Sims
Gabor Szabo wrote: Hi, does anyone know how to add the license field to the META.yml file when using Makefile.PL ? I know how to do it from Build.PL and as far as I know MakeMake does not yet support it out of the box. Is there a workaround ? Workarounds are discussed in the thread beginning at

Re: Module naming advice

2005-01-04 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Wheeler wrote: On Jan 4, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Bruce J Keeler wrote: I've always felt that this one should have a lowercase name, since it's rather pragma-ish. Are pragmas allowed outside of the core Perl distribution? Maybe it should be submitted as a core pragma, actually. It's a really light

Re: CPAN Testers and PREREQ_PM doesn't work very well!!!!!!

2004-12-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni wrote: cpansmoke is being re-added for 0.050_04. What is missing now is people using/testing CPANPLUS 0.50_xx to help Jos find and crush bugs. Yeah, a more productive place to discuss this might be the cpanplus-devel list:

New Module Idea: Starbuck's Async Message Protocol

2004-12-12 Thread Randy W. Sims
I've just been inspired: Starbuck's is finally getting the recognition they deserve as a great impetus and source of stimulation for the software engineer. I'll have a venti Chai Latte with a squirt of peppermint, and a script to c

Re: [rfc] File::Corruption

2004-10-18 Thread Randy W. Sims
Joshua Hoblitt wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Christopher Hicks wrote: On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Joshua Hoblitt wrote: is the namespace appropriate? I'd rather see it called something like "File::DetectCorruption" or something that makes it clear that your module isn't here to corrupt files. That seems

Re: cpan-testers rant

2004-09-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Coppit wrote: Can someone please tell me how to convince cpan-tester's automated testing to: - Not test unless required modules are installed. (Of *course* it fails if you don't have a required module installed.) - Send me the output of "make test TEST_VERBOSE=1" instead of the useless ge

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-25 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 8/24/2004 9:28 AM, Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy W. Sims) writes: hmm, are you going to generate multiple indexes? It might be interesting if we could search over the various fields provided by META.yml[1] I am only going to generate one index, but this is because Plucene

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
Simon Cozens wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy W. Sims) writes: I still think sourceforge-like hierchical catagories (Topics) in META.yml would make for good light-weight search and improved by-catagory browsing I disagree quite violently with this, but I'm not going to implement searchin

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
Johan Vromans wrote: Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I've already pulled the minicpan (a la Randal's mini mirror) Can't we make this an official tool? It is very handy! (If Randal is okay, I'll volunteer to toolize/cpanize it). Very usefull. I've made great use of it for gathering stats a

Re: Namespace for EUI related modules

2004-08-23 Thread Randy W. Sims
Suresh Govindachar wrote: By the way, if you know of a script to fill out https://pause.perl.org/pause/authenquery?ACTION=apply_mod please point me to it. If there is no such script, I will be attempting to write one (using WWW::Mechanize?) -- I trust there is no danger of me messing things up on

Re: Which namespace for a build system?

2004-08-23 Thread Randy W. Sims
[ Actually, I'm going ahead and CC'ing the list because I'm going to suggest something that others will probably disagree with ;-) ] Nadim Khemir wrote: -Original Message- Is this a build system for perl modules or a generic build system? Is it an application or a library? Is the docum

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-23 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andy Lester wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2004 at 10:43:38PM +0100, Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: There is nothing stopping anyone on this list prototyping their own improved substitute for search.cpan.org. (although it helps if you have a public facing webserver if you want to show it to othe

Re: name for singlethreaded web server framework module

2004-08-21 Thread Randy W. Sims
david nicol wrote: I am writing a module that provides HTTP interface using select, for simple web applications without a web-server, and without POE or other modules. Configuration will be by mapping paths to coderefs. Planning to call this cute beastie HTTP::Server::Selecting. Comments? I'm not s

Re: Which namespace for a build system?

2004-08-21 Thread Randy W. Sims
khemir nadim wrote: I'm going to polute witha new top level namespace! PBS:: Don't anyone have any idea of where we should put this type of modules? Is this a build system for perl modules or a generic build system? Is it an application or a library? Is the documentation available; I'd like to le

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-20 Thread Randy W. Sims
Christopher Hicks wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2004, Hugh S. Myers wrote: 2. Push hard on the notion of adding a keywords item to the 'standard' for pod documentation. What should those keywords be? Who decides? I'm personally much more interested in seeing a dmoz-ish hierarchy so related modules can

Re: Let's eliminate the Module List

2004-08-18 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 8/18/2004 5:54 PM, Andy Lester wrote: I propose eliminating the Long Module List. This proposal has come up several times on module-authors. IIRC, all the regulars are in agreement with the proposal; I don't think anyone dissented. The one bit of value that I see in this process is where Graha

Re: Where do people learn how to document a module?

2004-08-16 Thread Randy W. Sims
Hugh S. Myers wrote: Good suggestions all. OTOH---I can't help but think that it wouldn't hurt to have a few more documentation tools, for both old and new authors. I'm working on a script using B::Deparse that will when done at least generate a skeleton document framework for subs and globals. Pod

Re: Namespace for Z-machine parse/translate module

2004-08-13 Thread Randy W. Sims
Amir Karger wrote: --- "Randy W. Sims" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Amir Karger wrote: * Games::Zmachine - well, Z-machine isn't technically just for games. I say "technically" because the most "useful" Z-machine program I've seen is a Befunge inte

Re: Mail::Vacation abondoned?

2004-08-13 Thread Randy W. Sims
Adam Monsen wrote: (this was originally posted in comp.lang.perl.modules, but received no response) I need a vacation autoresponder that can (at least) be used within ~/.procmailrc. I'll write one unless someone knows of a useful one. Features I need: * doesn't respond to mailing lists * doesn't se

Re: Namespace for Z-machine parse/translate module

2004-08-09 Thread Randy W. Sims
Amir Karger wrote: [Warnocked on cpl.modules] I've written a module that parses Z-machine files[1] and translates them into executable Perl scripts. In the future, it'll be translating to other languages: first on the list is PIR. I'd like to CPAN-ify it, and wanted to ask about namespace. That's

Re: modularization module

2004-08-01 Thread Randy W. Sims
Baltasar Cevc wrote: Hi, everybody! I've started to write a modular user administration tool sometime ago. During this process, I've also started two modules facilitating the creation of such a modular program. The program modules are realized as Perl classes, each of them being a child of one of t

Re: module name for Wily (a text editor) interface client?

2004-08-01 Thread Randy W. Sims
Sam Holden wrote: I asked this in comp.lang.perl.modules and was pointed here, so here I am. Firstly, wily[1] is a (mostly) workalike of Acme[2] an editor under plan9. Wily provides only basic functionality with a very different but very small interface (with lots of mousing, meaning many people wi

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-08-01 Thread Randy W. Sims
Sorry for the delay. I haven't abandoned this; it's just been a long week, and there are some issues here that I've thought of that I'm unresolved on, but I'll bring that back up another time... Eric Wilhelm wrote: # The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. S

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
[Did I not reply to list in my previous message?] Eric Wilhelm wrote: # The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 10:45 pm: - Module Version: 3.05 + Module Version: 3.05 Source The ratings are one click away on the dist page. Yes, but as I said on

Re: Reviewing reviewers

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/22/2004 11:41 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # The following was supposedly scribed by # Randy W. Sims # on Thursday 22 July 2004 07:56 pm: A) Abuse Authors abusing the system for political statements, to sabatoge authors of similars modules, etc. 1) The usuall solution is a Karma

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/22/2004 5:50 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: We just need to organize and do it. 1st crack at organizing ideas/suggestions made in this thread and in Ask's TODO list. Comments/Omissions? Also available at <http://www.thepierianspring.org/perl/cpan-ratings.notes> -- I) CPAN Ratings

Re: Ratings and Reviews ne Modules

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
[BCC] On 7/22/2004 4:05 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: # The following was supposedly scribed by # Ken Williams # on Thursday 22 July 2004 01:50 pm: I was sort of hoping this idea would just die on its own, but now it looks like people are actually getting ready to do it. I'm going to jump on the band

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-22 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Wheeler wrote: Even less parsing: > ... db_driver => [qw(mysql pg)], Yeah, I thought about that when I saw one of your previous posts. My hesitation to adopt it is that the only way to infer the OR relationship is by the value being of type ARRAY, which means that future additions to t

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-19 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Wheeler wrote: Even less parsing: > ... db_driver => [qw(mysql pg)], Yeah, I thought about that when I saw one of your previous posts. My hesitation to adopt it is that the only way to infer the OR relationship is by the value being of type ARRAY, which means that future additions to t

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-19 Thread Randy W. Sims
Ken Williams wrote: On Jul 18, 2004, at 10:08 AM, David Wheeler wrote: On Jul 17, 2004, at 8:57 PM, David Wheeler wrote: Agreed. I'm racking my brains (and the brains of those around me), but I'm not coming up with anything. I like finding the right language for things, though, so I'll have to th

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
A. Pagaltzis wrote: I am getting the feeling you haven't understood what I am talking about, and you are also proposing something as "virtual packages" that is completely different from how "virtual packages" actually work, at least in Debian. The key points are: 1. Virtual packages exist in the re

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Wheeler wrote: On Jul 17, 2004, at 10:12 AM, Randy W. Sims wrote: Also, if there were a single module that all tools used to check requirements, it could include builtin macros for common "virtual" packages: DBD, DBM, Archiver, Encryption, ... Hrmm, yes, that would be nice, to

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/17/2004 12:25 PM, David Wheeler wrote: On Jul 16, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: It looks like maybe we could use 'virtual' packages like I mentioned below to solve this: Erm, that should have been: YAML: requires: db_driver: [postgresql] || [mysql] [postgresql]:

Re: Cpan Ratings

2004-07-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/17/2004 11:36 AM, James Keenan wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but ... What is the 'default phone-home behavior' in the Makefile.PL's about which Randal was complaining? Is it the author's 'Perlish' coding style, in which he places statement-ending semicolons at the start of the line? Or somet

Re: META.yml keywords

2004-07-16 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/16/2004 8:54 AM, Ken Williams wrote: On Jul 14, 2004, at 2:11 PM, Randy W. Sims wrote: The spec doesn't currently provide for keywords. I do think it would be a good idea, BUT I think it needs to be done in a way to avoid abuse. I think maybe it would be better to put keywords right i

Re: META.yml keywords

2004-07-16 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/14/2004 3:44 PM, Mark Stosberg wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 03:11:11PM -0400, Randy W. Sims wrote: Fergal Daly wrote: Does META.yaml have a place for keyowrds? The spec doesn't currently provide for keywords. I do think it would be a good idea, BUT I think it needs to be done in a w

Re: [Module::Build] requires_one_of

2004-07-16 Thread Randy W. Sims
David Wheeler wrote: Moving the conversation over to module-authors... On Jul 16, 2004, at 11:52 AM, Randy W. Sims wrote: David Wheeler wrote: On Jul 9, 2004, at 3:00 PM, David Wheeler wrote: Yes, but what about applications that require one among a list of modules? I'm thinking of things

Re: Module name? CPAN::Distribution::Depends

2004-07-16 Thread Randy W. Sims
Robert Rothenberg wrote: I am working on a module that when given a CPAN distribution, it will determine what modules that distribution depends on by scanning the META.yml file or if that one is not present, the Makefile.PL file. A while back I started on a module to read, write, & validate the

META.yml keywords (was: Re: Finding prior art Perl modules)

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
Fergal Daly wrote: Does META.yaml have a place for keyowrds? The spec doesn't currently provide for keywords. I do think it would be a good idea, BUT I think it needs to be done in a way to avoid abuse. I'd hate to see META.yml files grow by the kb as authors add every conceivable keyword they c

Re: Future of the "Module List"

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/14/2004 5:51 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2004 at 12:40:03PM -0500, Dave Rolsky wrote: On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-07-14 19:26]: Some of them _are_ registered, but that document you're referring to hasn't been regenerated since 2002

Re: New module: Regexp::Trie

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/14/2004 5:29 PM, David Landgren wrote: Hello, I gave a talk at the French Perl Workshop in June about some work I was doing to produce really large (i.e. length($re) > 5) regular expressions for Postfix access maps. (Postfix can be compiled with the PCRE library). A number of people exp

Re: META.yml keywords

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
darren chamberlain wrote: Is anyone generating META.yaml files by hand? I thought they were all generated (and regenerated) by Module::Build/MakeMaker? How would that work in the case of keywords? I haven't updated it in a while*, but shows in the "ME

Re: META.yml keywords

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
Matthew Sachs wrote: On Jul 14, 2004, at 12:11, Randy W. Sims wrote: Fergal Daly wrote: Does META.yaml have a place for keyowrds? As limiting and as clumsy as it seems, I think that if keywords are added then it should be from a limited set of keywords, i.e. more of a classification scheme

META.yml keywords (was: Re: Finding prior art Perl modules)

2004-07-14 Thread Randy W. Sims
Fergal Daly wrote: Does META.yaml have a place for keyowrds? The spec doesn't currently provide for keywords. I do think it would be a good idea, BUT I think it needs to be done in a way to avoid abuse. I'd hate to see META.yml files grow by the kb as authors add every conceivable keyword they c

Re: new module: Time::Seconds::GroupedBy

2004-07-13 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 7/13/2004 8:01 PM, Bruno Negrão wrote: Oh, what a sadness. Indeed i never saw the DateTime project before. But still my module is far easier to use than DateTime::Format::Duration. Do you believe it is worth to publish it in Time::Seconds::GroupBy? Not sadness, experience. Actually this was an e

Re: ANNOUNCE: WWW::Map 0.01

2004-07-10 Thread Randy W. Sims
Dave Rolsky wrote: On Fri, 10 Jul 2004, Scott W Gifford wrote: Right now I'm leaning towards either keeping WWW::Map or going with WWW::MapService. I think the former is actually reasonably clear given the WWW namespace, which is all about interacting with web stuff, not generating HTML or anythi

Re: Perl's Sacrifice Stone

2004-07-10 Thread Randy W. Sims
khemir nadim wrote: Hi, I started a vonlontary review on Perl Monks. I don't know if it's the best place but since they have reviews I thought it would be a good place to start with (and I couldn't think of a better place). It hasn't given any result so far :-) . If some of you would be nice enough

Re: not-so-plain documentation

2004-06-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 6/24/2004 11:11 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Hi everybody! I'm going to be documenting a system of (30+) programs with is mostly scripts, rather than modules. I know you can just put pod text in your scripts, but I'd like to also integrate the usage messages into the pods (or get them from the po

Re: New module: CGI::Tooltip

2004-06-18 Thread Randy W. Sims
Becky Alcorn wrote: The javascript library that we're using only works in browsers as far as we know, and as far as our development goes we think of this kind of functionality as a natural extension of what the CGI module does for us. It seems that there is some overlap between the Javascript, HTML

Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-30 Thread Randy W. Sims
A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Randy W. Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-05-14 01:40]: It would be much nicer if it was readable as a nntp or at least a mailing list; I've always found http-based discussion boardss awkward to navigate and difficult to figure out what I have and haven't read.

Re: Duplicated modules

2004-05-13 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 5/13/2004 7:19 PM, IvorW wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jose Alves de Castro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "IvorW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 13 May 2004 11:23 Subject: Re: Duplicated modules Having said that, are we just reinventing Perlmonks? That, I do not k

Re: Font::FNT

2004-04-06 Thread Randy W. Sims
Steffen Goeldner wrote: Hi, I'm about to release the module Font::FNT to load, manipulate and save Windows raster fonts (.FNT files). Is this namespace ok? Looks right to me.

Re: Module::Starter released

2004-04-06 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andy Lester wrote: I've just released Module::Starter 0.02, meant as a replacement for h2xs. I just reinstalled Debian on my laptop with the default perl (5.6.1). The following are the modules required and "requested" for Module::Starter and its dependents. Not complaining or making any judgemen

Re: Module::Starter released

2004-04-05 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andy Lester wrote: I've just released Module::Starter 0.02, meant as a replacement for h2xs. I think h2xs is very out of date as far as current best practices for modules. It's also very intimidating for people who just want to create a module, and have no need for all the compiler hoohah that h2

Re: Module::Starter released

2004-04-05 Thread Randy W. Sims
Andy Lester wrote: I've just released Module::Starter 0.02, meant as a replacement for h2xs. I just reinstalled Debian on my laptop with the default perl (5.6.1). The following are the modules required and "requested" for Module::Starter and its dependents. Not complaining or making any judgemen

Re: NAME field

2004-04-02 Thread Randy W. Sims
Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema wrote: Good point. Any suggestions? With this module it's possible to have 1 Conf frontend using one of the provided backends: String, File, SQL, INI for now, but later probably Win32::Registry, maybe Wx::Config. I wasn't really concerned about namespaces when I wrote this.

Re: NAME field

2004-04-01 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 4/1/2004 5:25 AM, Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema wrote: Dear All, I'm just wondering. I've uploaded a few modules last days, of which: Conf-0.06 Conf-SQL-0.05 Conf-INI-0.03 Why? There are already several namespaces where configuration type modules are located, primarily Config::*. Why do yo

Re: Reshaping the modules list: a starting point, help remove the bias.

2004-02-24 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 02/24/04 13:51, Smylers wrote: Sam Vilain writes: I've performed an initial re-work of the modules list. Please look over the sections of the list that you are most in touch with and provide feedback. After this stage, I'll try and fit the modules from the existing lists and the Phalanx proje

Re: pageranking perl modules

2004-02-20 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 02/20/04 01:22, David Manura wrote: Since there has been some discussion recently on improving search.cpan.org search results, here's an initial attempt to apply the Google-inspired PageRank algorithm on Perl modules when interpreting module dependencies as links: http://www.math2.org/davi

Re: Event::IO::Listener/Linear modules proposal

2004-01-04 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 1/3/2004 11:22 PM, David Robins wrote: I have two modules that make use of the Event.pm module that would be more generally useful that I'd like to contribute to CPAN: Event::IO::Linear - aggregates received data into 'lines'; handles timeouts; buffers writes. Works with either Unix or Inter

Re: Licenses for Perl Distributions As Displayed on search.cpan.org

2003-12-23 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/23/2003 8:21 PM, James E Keenan wrote: I recently used the "Feedback" section on search.cpan.org to ask the following question: I've noticed that the CPAN interface for modules now includes a space for the module's "License" -- but that few modules have any entry here (e.g., http://search

Re: Simple multi-level tie

2003-12-17 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/18/2003 12:25 AM, Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp wrote: "Wrapping hashes with arbitrary inflate/deflate methods." This is a tool that adds syntactic sugar to hashes. I developed it for the purpose of making complicated storage in hashes tied to DBM files nicer. It doesn't matter if you use CGI::

Re: BTRIEVE::*

2003-12-06 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/5/2003 1:05 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: Are you volunteering? Since I opened my big mouth, I guess I am. <:o Now what exactly was I volunteering for again? Tim. On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 07:39:04PM -0500, Randy W. Sims wrote: On 12/4/2003 3:50 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11

Re: BTRIEVE::*

2003-12-04 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/4/2003 3:50 PM, Tim Bunce wrote: On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:42:07AM +0100, Steffen Goeldner wrote: Randy W. Sims wrote: Maybe DBMS::BTrieve::??? That looks good! But that's a new namespace. The horse has well and truly bolted on the db module namespace issue. They're al

Re: Fwd: How to put a path into a module during build time?

2003-12-04 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/4/2003 12:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Savige replied to me offlist with a good solution. Taking a hint from lib/Net/Config.pm my $file = __FILE__; my $ref; $file =~ s/Config.pm/libnet.cfg/; That is definately a more elegant solution. I only have two problems with it: 1) I did no

Fwd: How to put a path into a module during build time?

2003-12-03 Thread Randy W. Sims
Forwarding to the MakeMaker ML because that seems a better place to get an answer. This suggests a more general question that might belong in the MakeMaker FAQ: What make variables are usefull to authors in Makefile.PL? On 12/3/2003 11:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked through my O'R

Re: when an object gets possessed by an evil spirit

2003-12-03 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/3/2003 8:27 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: Randy W. Sims wrote: I'm a C++ guy, so this kinda makes me think of auto_ptr<>'s and their reset method except that doesn't actually copy... actually this sounds more like a copy constructor; what about copy_construct() ??? Than

Re: BTRIEVE::*

2003-12-03 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/3/2003 11:12 AM, Steffen Goeldner wrote: Hi, I'm about to release two modules: BTRIEVE::XS BTRIEVE::API The first, BTRIEVE::XS, is a simple XS wrapper module for Btrieve's single function API. I.e., you can call Btrieve's C function BTRCALL() in perl as BTRIEVE::XS::Call(). The second,

Re: when an object gets possessed by an evil spirit

2003-12-03 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 12/3/2003 3:06 PM, Stas Bekman wrote: Obviously there is a solution to this problem. Enter the magic CLONE function called when a new thread is spawned (perl_clone is called). If a package defines this function, perl will call it. When CLONE is called Perl has already cloned $y. So what you n

Re: ExtUtils::MakeMaker or Module::Build

2003-11-20 Thread Randy W. Sims
Orton, Yves wrote: But as we start to put this together we run across Module::Build. In the past I have always used ExtUtils::MakaMaker. Is there a preference (if one were starting from scratch), to using one over the other? Personally my feeling is that Module::Build isn't mature enough fo

Re: ExtUtils::MakeMaker or Module::Build

2003-11-19 Thread Randy W. Sims
On 11/19/2003 11:34 PM, Lincoln A. Baxter wrote: Hi, I and several others are starting to put together a collection of modules. The will be an architecture for implementing a data/application integration server. More on that later when we have a more complete description we can post. But as we

Re: [Module::Build] (RFC) META.yml Specification Update

2003-11-15 Thread Randy W. Sims
And here it is in pod format. =head1 NAME Module::Build::META-spec - Specification for F =head1 SYNOPSIS --- #YAML:1.0 name: Module-Build version: 0.20 license: perl distribution_type: module requires: Config: 0 Cwd: 0 Data::Dumper: 0 ExtUtils::Install: 0 File::Basename: 0

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