Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Hi Bonita, Debbie and others, I have a different perspective on what you describe below. I'm curious as to what others think about this. I have an expectation in my class that during independent reading time the children may read with one other person but no more. I tell my kids that the

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
Joy, Please don't take this the wrong way but I just had to comment on what you say below. I think that teachers are way too nice. We try so hard not to hurt people's feelings or step on people's toes and then we get barrelled over. I truly believe that is part of what's happening with NCLB,

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-27 Thread Debbie Goodis
Elisa, Well, I guess what we are talking about is the way we would REDIRECT the students, knowing that they are showing me they have a need to do something social and figure out what other activity could satisfy that need. See, I think of it as the kids are showing me that they need to do this

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-24 Thread Joy
I think the suggestions about training will help. One of our staff development days is going to be about reading strategies, so maybe that will help. I don't think she knows anything different, and doesn't understand the full implications. I don't think she is being insubordinate at all,

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-23 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
Debbie Goodis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we really put this in perspective when we consider the alternative. What teacher is going to discourage the child from reading out loud in or to a group of peers. We wouldn't do that, right? So, this tells me to let it happen. It's such

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-23 Thread Lisa Szyska
She works for you, after all, yes? Do you leave explicit instructions that she doesn't follow, or do you leave her general instructions that leave her room to do what she wants to do? ** This is my question as well. None of my TA's (good, bad or goofy) have been allowed to make

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading/Janelle

2007-07-22 Thread Joy
Thanks for the suggestion. You're right, it might be that she doesn't know any other way. Maybe this, plus the other suggestions about modeling other techniques will help. It may also help for her to be in my class at the beginning of the year. She joined my team last May, right before the end

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Bonita DeAmicis
Question for the passionate round robin folks. What about when students are in literacy groups and they CHOOSE to read together round-robin style? Thoughts on this? :)Bonita ___ Mosaic mailing list Mosaic@literacyworkshop.org To unsubscribe or

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread ljackson
I just think it is a variation on buddy reading and that it is a very different matter when it is child initiated. :Lori On 7/22/07 6:48 PM, Patricia Kimathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder about this. I have 2nd graders, they didn't learn it from the first grade teacher, she is next

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Renee
On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Patricia Kimathi wrote: I wonder about this. I have 2nd graders, they didn't learn it from the first grade teacher, she is next door. where do they get it from? Pat K On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:04 PM, ljackson wrote: What about when students are in literacy

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-22 Thread Beverlee Paul
I think I agree, and one of the reasons is that sometimes when adult groups get together, they choose to do the very same thing. Sometimes it's part where the language is lifting, sometimes it's to clarify, sometimes it's to review for the group with some punch, sometimes they just like to

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread j browne
Joy, I am sure you have considered this, but how about setting up a schedule for partner reading. That way, when your TA is filling in, the kids will already be assigned a partner and will know what is expected of them during their reading time. The TA will be able to observe, assist, and

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread CNJPALMER
Joy What I tell my students and colleagues is this...when you round robin read, many kids don't read all the text or even follow along. They look for what they will be reading and prepare for that. I ask kids to read the whole text silently because they read the whole text, not just the

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread SooZQ55164
I usually tell my student teachers and colleagues that usually if they were to use Round Robin Reading that if one child is reading most times there are 21 who aren't. It's not an efficient strategy. I remember counting paragraphs until it was my turn and then daydreaming until it was my

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread ljackson
Give her some alternatives to round robin and stand your ground. Perhaps give her No More Round Robin Reading. Lori On 7/21/07 11:47 AM, Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Michelle TeGrootenhuis
On 7/21/07 11:47 AM, Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't do round robin reading in my class. Never have. However, my new TA, who is wonderful in every other way, is disturbed by this. She feels so strongly about it that whenever she has had to fill in for me (IEP meetings and the like) she

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Beverlee Paul
Good-bye Round Robin: 25 Effective Oral Reading Strategies by Michael F. Opitz and Timothy Rasinski (Paperback - Nov 3, 1998) Buy new: $15.0053 Used new from $8.40 _ http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=hmtextlinkjuly07

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Renee
I have not done round robin reading for about a million years and I can't imagine doing it as a general practice. However, I am going to go off on a different tangent here than everyone else did. My first question is, How often does your TA need to take your place? Once a week? Once a

Re: [MOSAIC] Round Robin Reading

2007-07-21 Thread Janelle
Have you tried simply asking her why she does round robin reading? Sometimes people, at least I think, do things because that is what they've seen others do, not because they have a good reason. This may open up a line of communication for you to enter a conversation with her. Good luck!

Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-17 Thread Renee
@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading Hi, all, I'm turning to all you expert first grade teachers. I had primary discussions yesterday with first grade teachers regarding round robin reading. Our state guidelines say, oral reading, but not round

Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-16 Thread H Weise
I recommend the Heinmann book - Good-bye Round Robin -25 Effective Oral Reading Strategies -by Michael Optiz and Timothy Rasinski. It is short and useful as a reference. I dip into it as a reminder/refresher. - Holly W. -Original Message- Mosaic mailing list

Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Carlevarom
Hi, I think listening to children read is crucial at all elementary levels. If more teachers listened to their children, checked fluency and saw if they were using fix-up skills, then we would have less students who need remediation. I always thought that teachers should be listening to

Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Joy
I'd like to add that you should also schedule times for an individual reading conference, where you do running records. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think listening to children read is crucial at all elementary levels. If more teachers listened to their children, checked fluency and saw if

Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading

2006-12-15 Thread Liz Hill
Listserv mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Round robin reading Hi, all, I'm turning to all you expert first grade teachers. I had primary discussions yesterday with first grade teachers regarding round robin reading. Our state guidelines say