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From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
> Debbie,
> And, whose idea is this learning "to teach the right way" that these
DI scripts spouse?
s fair to say that they will ensure the best literacy
> education possible for every student. The person most responsible for that
> has to be the classroom teacher.
>
> Lori Jackson
>
>
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> From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
> To: Mosaic: A Read
st literacy education possible for every student. The person
most responsible for that has to be the classroom teacher.
Lori Jackson
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From: Waingort Jimenez, Elisa
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:46 AM
Su
prehension Strategies Email Group
Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
> Debbie,
> And, whose idea is this learning "to teach the right way" that these DI
> scripts spouse? There is no right way to teach. There are philosophies
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Debbie,
And, whose idea is this learning "to teach the right way" that these DI scripts
spouse? There is no right way to teach. There are philosophies which then
guide our teaching practices. The teaching practices in DI programs are
clearly scripted so that there is minimal out of the box th
What is the Learning Pad site? Our school just started Writing Workshop
(Lucy Calkins). So have seen significant results in the 4th grade. We had
69.2 % score 7 - 12 points in the writing. Usually the students score no
more that 5 - 6 points. That's great for our school. Have not achieved
tha
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From: ljackson
Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
To: "Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group"
> And those folks that equate doing their own things with flying
> by the seat
> of
My instructional facilitator always says a good quality curriculum is the
floor...not the ceiling. Think about Ellin's What's Essential list. If everyone
works from that, every teacher our students have from K-12 will have a focus
that will benefit literacy development. That's the floor...wh
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
Thoughts...generally, I agree but I believe that districts must strive to
set meaningful parameters for teachers to work within. The notion of 'dong
your own thing' is so singly teacher dependent that when you cannot
guarantee the inte
gt;>> get compliments on how well the students are engaged and thinking. No
>>>> one has ever corrected the words I used during a lesson. We use a
>>>> scripted program, but like all of you, I learned more from Lucy
>>>> Calkins and Debbie Miller. I mostly use
th all that
said, I know there are principals who wouldn't like anything other
than the script being used during a lesson. That is unfortunate, and
it tells me that those individuals are NOT thinking either! Hope that
helps..
____
From: "teach2h...@aol.com"
I would say that a wrong way to teach would be to not pay attention to
children's needs, in favor of following a set curriculum/scope and
sequence/pacing guide. :-)
Yes there are teachers out there teaching in "wrong ways" and,
I fear, their numbers will increase rather than decrese w
cy
>> Calkins and Debbie Miller. I mostly use the "scripts" from those
>> experts and like I said, I've never been corrected. With all that
>> said, I know there are principals who wouldn't like anything other
>> than the script being used during a lesson.
BUT, Renee, I think there are most definitely WRONG WAYS to teach. And some
teachers really do not know the right ways. It isn't usually their fault...but
we ALL know they are out there.
I am thinking that it is our responsibility as professionals to build up,
not only our own knowledge
..
From: "teach2h...@aol.com"
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:59:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
In a message dated 2/20/2009 12:23:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mosaic-requ...@literacyworkshop.org
wouldn't like anything
other than the script being used during a lesson. That is unfortunate, and it
tells me that those individuals are NOT thinking either! Hope that helps..
From: "teach2h...@aol.com"
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Frid
Felicia,
I think you've already started on a path to teaching reading differently. I
bet you are already doing some of the things you've read about on this list and
that you got from your Ellin Keene/Debbie Miller session. It's hard not to
since it all makes so much sense, no pun intended. Ev
ike you.
Felicia
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From: mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org
[mailto:mosaic-boun...@literacyworkshop.org] On Behalf Of cnjpal...@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:58 PM
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] scripts and thinking
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Elisa
Thank you. You are right.
I know you are reflecting the views of many since my mailbox is filling with
off-list pleas to bring the list back to a discussion of comprehension.
I know the discussion we've been having is important and I don't want to
"censor" anyone...but I would like
I think we need to clarify scripts. To me, scripts are word for word texts for
lessons that we need to say, with fidelity, or else (according to the creators
of the program) we won't get the amazing results they claim. I think the
reason DI programs are so attractive is that they mold automato
In a message dated 2/20/2009 12:23:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mosaic-requ...@literacyworkshop.org writes:
think scripts have a place for some teachers especially if
Just food for thought:) Did any of us in our journey through learning how to
teach comprehension strategies and transforming
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