Re: DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-05 Thread Simon P. Lucy
On 04/12/2001 at 18:44 Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: delenda est Everyone was using a utility called something like Drive Space or Double Space that would let you hold 40megs of info on a 20 meg hard drive. Using this utility though at the time, the hard drives tended to fail in a short

Re: DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-04 Thread David Gerard
On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:42:12 -0700, Chuck Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :DeMoN LaG wrote: : Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in : [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03 Dec 2001: : I retired the summer after the first version of W-95 came out. We : mostly used

Re: DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-04 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03 Dec 2001: I retired the summer after the first version of W-95 came out. We mostly used Windows 3.1.1. at the four high schools were the only ones allowed to try

DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-03 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Simon P. Lucy wrote: On 02/12/2001 at 21:38 Christian Biesinger wrote: DeMoN LaG wrote: You can technically format a drive to about 80% and then cancel it and not have a problem, as the drive's FAT is not written until the end, at which point data is unrecoverable. Data is not

DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-03 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Simon P. Lucy wrote: On 02/12/2001 at 21:38 Christian Biesinger wrote: DeMoN LaG wrote: You can technically format a drive to about 80% and then cancel it and not have a problem, as the drive's FAT is not written until the end, at which point data is unrecoverable. Data is not

Re: DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-03 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03 Dec 2001: I retired the summer after the first version of W-95 came out. We mostly used Windows 3.1.1. at the four high schools were the only ones allowed to try W-95. Am I remembering wrong

Re: DOS was Re: Worth it?

2001-12-03 Thread Chuck Simmons
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03 Dec 2001: I retired the summer after the first version of W-95 came out. We mostly used Windows 3.1.1. at the four high schools were the only ones allowed to try W-95.

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread RV
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Phillip: The problem is that you are constantly making comments, responding to others posts and critisizing using completely erroneous information. That doesn't add any credibility to you, on the contrary. Sometimes you respond to people with answers that

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Henri Sivonen wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. replay Installing them on the same

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Dec 2001: Yeah... Sure. You seem to imply that the Mac going bye bye would affect Unix somehow? The Mac does not compete in the same market as Unix. The Mac has no

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
RV wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Phillip: The problem is that you are constantly making comments, responding to others posts and critisizing using completely erroneous information. That doesn't add any credibility to you, on the contrary. Sometimes you respond to people

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disk Images? You mean save the Netscape 6 entire install as a SMI format? Yes. (But the disk image does not need to need a self-mounting image [smi] a regular image will do.) Move the entire Netscape 6 folder on a disk image. Then

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02 Dec 2001: 1. I remember you once stating that you have limited experience in programing and as an example you mentioned that years ago you used to edit autoexec.bat files for MS DOS. That was

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Christian Biesinger
DeMoN LaG wrote: You can technically format a drive to about 80% and then cancel it and not have a problem, as the drive's FAT is not written until the end, at which point data is unrecoverable. Data is not necessarily unrecoverable. Firstly, only the FAT is overwritten, so the actual

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: --snip-- The Mac needs more than fax software to give Windows and the PC platform a run for it's money -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m I agree, they need more support from software vendors, and Distributors, and Developers.

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02 Dec 2001: 1. I remember you once stating that you have limited experience in programing and as an example you mentioned that years ago you used to edit autoexec.bat

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-02 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you use DiskCopy. to make image. Yes. -- Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hut.fi/u/hsivonen/

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do conflict with each other. Please stop stating that is if it was the case

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip The reason why the the browser works but not necessarily mail and news. Is because all emphasis is being placed in the Browser. The Mail and news is considered an after thought. What gives you any authority to make

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Asa Dotzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 30 Nov 2001: What gives you any authority to make statements like that? Are you involved in any way in the planning that goes into this project. Are you being intentionally insulting

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Dec 2001: Are you being intentionally insulting to the people that work long hours trying to make _all_ of the product better? Are you just bitter or mean? No I am not biter or mean but I am

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Chuck Simmons
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do conflict with each other.

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Chuck Simmons wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Henri Sivonen
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. replay Installing them on the same disk might mix up icons and the

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: -snip- You have been this way as long as I can remember. Actually, when i first started on these groups I wasn't. But the more i saw things deteriate (inthe program) and the more I asked what was going on or reported bugs, or voted on bugs, or offerred comments then was

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Dec 2001: Yeah... Sure. You seem to imply that the Mac going bye bye would affect Unix somehow? The Mac does not compete in the same market as Unix. The Mac has no bearing on Unix at

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Chuck Simmons
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Okay please explain for admonition by the Champs Not to place Communicator and netscape 6 on the same partion on your hard Drive. I realize that Mozilla and netscape 6 can actaully use one anothers preferences because the path to preferences is Name (name

Re: Worth it?

2001-12-01 Thread Jay Garcia
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. Where did you come up with this bit of info ??? The Champions Program has never made this

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-30 Thread DeMoN LaG
Asa Dotzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 30 Nov 2001: What gives you any authority to make statements like that? Are you involved in any way in the planning that goes into this project. Are you being intentionally insulting to the people that work

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-04 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Pratik wrote: > Appears to look right for me on Communicator 4.7.8. The opening page > appears to show description of various html code marked in green in places. But see, that is not what its supposed to look like. Take a look at it in Mozilla or IE. Thats how its suppossed to look like

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-04 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 04 Nov 2001: Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en html nbsp; pPratik wrote: div

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-03 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Pratik wrote: On 11/02/01 03:49 PM, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: > I've never run into CSS problems with Communicator using any version 4.5 > or later. Take a look at http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki The site uses CSS and doesn't render correctly on NS 4.72 on Linux. I got the css and

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-03 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
. and some instability basically works pretty nicely. Is it worth it to check out Netscape 6.2, or is it still betaware/bugware? Be honest, too, please. I am not an MS troll; I am just looking for some honest answers and do not want to hear shills. TIA! -- Never meddle

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-03 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Lucas MacBride wrote: Chris Hoess wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Garcia wrote: 4.78 does in fact support CSS and quite well unless it runs into proprietary non-standard CSS. Huh? I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a web developer who agrees with that. IIRC,

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-03 Thread Pratik
Appears to look right for me on Communicator 4.7.8. The opening page appears to show description of various html code marked in green in places. But see, that is not what its supposed to look like. Take a look at it in Mozilla or IE. Thats how its suppossed to look like (unless both Mozill

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-03 Thread Richter
other than no support of CSS, etc. and some instability basically works pretty nicely. Is it worth it to check out Netscape 6.2, or is it still betaware/bugware? Be honest, too, please. I am not an MS troll; I am just looking for some honest answers and do not want to hear

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Richter wrote: Joe Camel wrote: X-No-archive:yes I was just over in the Netscape 6 group and frankly, 6.2 still looks a little buggy for my tastes. I am now on 4.78, which other than no support of CSS, etc. and some instability basically works pretty nicely. Is it worth

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
of CSS, etc. and some instability basically works pretty nicely. Is it worth it to check out Netscape 6.2, or is it still betaware/bugware? Be honest, too, please. I am not an MS troll; I am just looking for some honest answers and do not want to hear shills. TIA! 4.78 does in fact

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X-No-archive:yes I was just over in the Netscape 6 group and frankly, 6.2 still looks a little buggy for my tastes. I am now on 4.78, which other than no support of CSS, etc. and some instability basically works pretty nicely. Is it worth it to check out

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Pratik
On 11/02/01 03:49 PM, Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: I've never run into CSS problems with Communicator using any version 4.5 or later. Take a look at http://www.geocities.com/pratiksolanki The site uses CSS and doesn't render correctly on NS 4.72 on Linux. I got the css and html

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Duane Clark
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: The reason why the the browser works but not necessarily mail and news. Is because all emphasis is being placed in the Browser. The Mail and news is considered an after thought. Though to be fair, the recent couple of versions (Moz 0.93 and later) have

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Richter
works pretty nicely. Is it worth it to check out Netscape 6.2, or is it still betaware/bugware? Be honest, too, please. I am not an MS troll; I am just looking for some honest answers and do not want to hear shills. TIA! -- Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Lucas MacBride
Chris Hoess wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jay Garcia wrote: 4.78 does in fact support CSS and quite well unless it runs into proprietary non-standard CSS. Huh? I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a web developer who agrees with that. IIRC, 4.x's CSS support is a hack that

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread lal_truckee
Duane Clark wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote NS6.2/Moz9.5 Other reasons for upgrading: Another preference allows me to set a minimum font size. Very handy for us old guys with weak eyes. How? I don't see that in Preferences/Appearances/Fonts, and as you mention, it sure would be

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread Duane Clark
lal_truckee wrote: Duane Clark wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote NS6.2/Moz9.5 Other reasons for upgrading: Another preference allows me to set a minimum font size. Very handy for us old guys with weak eyes. How? I don't see that in Preferences/Appearances/Fonts, and as you

Re: Worth it?

2001-11-02 Thread R.K.Aa.
Duane Clark wrote: lal_truckee wrote: Duane Clark wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote NS6.2/Moz9.5 Other reasons for upgrading: Another preference allows me to set a minimum font size. Very handy for us old guys with weak eyes. How? I don't see that in

Re: Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-23 Thread Ecmel ERCAN
version. Is it worth to upgrade ? Pete

Re: Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-23 Thread Peter Moscatt
PROTECTED], Peter Moscatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently using Mozilla 0.8 and now see there is a newer version. Is it worth to upgrade ? Pete

Re: Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-22 Thread hihihi
Peter Moscatt wrote: I am currently using Mozilla 0.8 and now see there is a newer version. Is it worth to upgrade ? The message filters did not work for me on 0.8.1 Just installed 0.9 and now it works.. :-)

Re: Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-21 Thread Asa Dotzler
Peter Moscatt wrote: I am currently using Mozilla 0.8 and now see there is a newer version. Is it worth to upgrade ? Pete 0.8.1 is a little more stable than 0.9 and 0.8 both but 0.9 has some major performance improvements in mail-news and PSM. see the release notes at http

Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-19 Thread Peter Moscatt
I am currently using Mozilla 0.8 and now see there is a newer version. Is it worth to upgrade ? Pete

Re: Mozilla 0.8 0.9 Is the Upgrade Worth It ??

2001-05-19 Thread Peter Moscatt
Thanks Bill. well yep, you have answered all questions :-) Thanks Bill. Pete Bill Lee wrote: Peter Moscatt wrote: I am currently using Mozilla 0.8 and now see there is a newer version. Is it worth to upgrade ? Pete It doesn't crash any less if that's what you're asking