Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:28:41 +0200, derGraph wrote: Don Redman wrote: OK, whoever wants to implement this, should issue a RFV and get going. It's not like I could implement this, but ... however ... He who is in doubt that parody should be an attribute of the cover AR shall veto now

Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Don Redman wrote: On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:28:41 +0200, derGraph wrote: And now, wait 48 hours? I bet that's enough time for me to forget about this thread. ;-) That's a serious problem. Anyone has an idea how this could be avoided? And it's a general problem of MB. Problems are either

Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Bransden
On 25/04/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the style issues section on trac and either sets the owner to her-/himself or to CC. off topic, but how exactly does the CC stuff in trac work? I've never been sent an email when my tickets are

Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Bransden
thanks shepard, that worked! well, maybe i didn't put my email in first time round somehow :) in any case i think i'm sorted, thanks. On 25/04/06, Chris Bransden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 25/04/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the

Re: [mb-style] very early composers

2006-04-25 Thread Nathan Noble
I don't think you should put in a lifespan for artist [anon.]. Does Seikilos have any known compositions? If not then there isn't much need to make him an artist. I think both a name and composition would be needed for a performance under that artist to exist. -Nate --- Adam Golding [EMAIL

Re: [mb-style] very early composers

2006-04-25 Thread Nathan Noble
Will submit there. Ty, -Nate --- LukᚠLalinský [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nathan Noble wrote: If this is the wrong place for this, feel free to kick me in the right direction... I think is more a technical server issue, so http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/newticket

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Nikki
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 10:49:39PM +0200, derGraph wrote: I wonder where to draw the line. We should definitely not include all subnational states, but only for larger states. But should it be limited to USA and Canada? What about e.g. Russia and China? There is no line and I'm not drawing

Re: Satire vs. Parody ... Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread Joe
On Tuesday 25 April 2006 15:55, Don Redman wrote: On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:55:57 +0200, derGraph wrote: I guess we're back on the RFC phase, then? I have not followed the whole thread, but I guess not. Noone has issued a veto and that is what counts. This is the whole point of the RFV

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Nikki
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 04:31:57PM -0500, Orion wrote: In large part it's from the bootlegs being of English artists performing in countries that aren't predominantly English. Agreed there. Sapporo, Hokkaido, Japan feels odd for some reason It sounds fine to me in English, but I don't know

Re: [mb-style] Changing OtherVersionRelationshipType to OtherRecordingRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Adam Golding wrote: i was discussing this in one of the classical threads--i repaste my suggestion here: I must say, I'm a bit confused by your proposal and don't understand all of it, probably because it's very classical-related. Again I'm pointing to the plans for the NextGenerationSchema

[mb-style] obnoxiously misspelled TEST post

2006-04-25 Thread ZaphodBeeblebrox formerly known as mo
testy testy test! ~ mo the tester ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] Changing OtherVersionRelationshipType to OtherRecordingRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Hey, so to sum it up: Bogdan said {live} and {acoustic} make not much sense in the relationship since they should be track attributes and I agree. Then I just found an album-album AR type live performance by chance (created because of http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/980) which is not yet

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
Simon Reinhardt wrote: We need more secretaries who are willing to do some work. When a new problem arises on the style mailing list, one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the style issues section on trac and either sets the owner to her-/himself or to CC. Then they are responsible

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
dj empirical wrote: i think that with bootlegs, what the artist does often has no bearing on anything! :) Eh ... of course not! But that's not the point! However, an artist performing in Italian exclusively will most likely have most fans in Italy, and almost all fans would rather like to

Re: Satire vs. Parody ... Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
It seems like my post got lost somewhere, so I send it again. Please excuse if it arrives twice. Original Message Subject: Re: Satire vs. Parody ... Re: [mb-style] new relationship type parody Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:28:34 +0200 From: derGraph [EMAIL

Re: [mb-style] Co-ProducerRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
Chris Bransden wrote: good point. i would say make co an attribute, and executive a sub-type, as producers/co-producers is a similar hands-on role, but executive producers can mean a more external influence. But isn't executive pretty much like the guest attribute on performed-ARs? derGraph

Re: [mb-style] very early composers

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Golding
seikilos isn't the composer--he's just the dude whose tombstone the song was carved intoand it was a bad example though--i'm thinking that there might be anonymous composers before 800 who have multiple works.. On 4/25/06, Nathan Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think you should put in a

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Bransden
On 25/04/06, Nikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would definitely prefer the local name, not only because this is the official name, and we prefer official data almost everywhere. We might still add the English name in an annotation. Yet we use the English name of the country. I think we

Re: [mb-style] Co-ProducerRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread derGraph
Chris Bransden wrote: nope, see http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ProducerRelationshipType producers aren't ever credited as guests, I was talking about how influential the position is ... derGraph ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list

Re: [mb-style] Co-ProducerRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Bransden
what are you talking about then? :P On 25/04/06, derGraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Bransden wrote: nope, see http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ProducerRelationshipType producers aren't ever credited as guests, I was talking about how influential the position is ... derGraph

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Nikki
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:46:23PM +0100, Chris Bransden wrote: IMO it should be at the moderators discretion. it's what's useful to the users that is most important. since it's a free-text field (album/track title), there's no reason to unify the data. If a french user adds french language

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Bransden
On 25/04/06, Nikki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 10:46:23PM +0100, Chris Bransden wrote: IMO it should be at the moderators discretion. it's what's useful to the users that is most important. since it's a free-text field (album/track title), there's no reason to unify the

Re: [mb-style] Changing OtherVersionRelationshipType to OtherRecordingRelationshipType

2006-04-25 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Bogdan Butnaru wrote: On 4/25/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - change Release is a live performance of Release, Release was performed live as Release to Release has later recording(s) Release, Release is a later recording of Release and update the one case using the live stuff

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Don Redman
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 23:16:55 +0200, derGraph wrote: Simon Reinhardt wrote: We need more secretaries who are willing to do some work. When a new problem arises on the style mailing list, one of the secretaries goes to add a ticket to the style issues section on trac and either sets the

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Orion
Bogdan Butnaru wrote: That being said, I think we should insist on using a single language everywhere (English seems the best choice), because when we make the database smarter (and perhaps the location and date of bootlegs will be a field) it'll be much easier to make an automatic conversion.

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 4/26/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing we need is that someone *really* cares about a problem and controls discussions. And well, if noone like that is found for an issue then the style secretary can ask someone to do the work or try to do it themselves as a

Re: [mb-style] ideas on improving Style Council decissions

2006-04-25 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 4/26/06, Simon Reinhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some explanation for the image you attached? I do not understand it. :) I don't get it either. I think the width of the grey band indicates the number of emails per time unit sent on the subject. But images are usually only a way to enhance

Re: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Lars Aronsson
Adam Golding wrote: On 4/23/06, derGraph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikki wrote: Should UK countries be included? I wonder where to draw the line. We should definitely not include all subnational states, but only for larger states. But should it be limited to USA and Canada? What

RE: [mb-style] Bootleg locations

2006-04-25 Thread Cristov Russell
dj empirical wrote: i think that with bootlegs, what the artist does often has no bearing on anything! :) Eh ... of course not! But that's not the point! However, an artist performing in Italian exclusively will most likely have most fans in Italy, and almost all fans would