"Bernhard Döbler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: AW: InterBase vs. Mysql
The person booking CeBIT works in out Finnish office. And the Finnish
boot had a good deal.
So no special reasons.
/David
On Mon, 2003-03-24 at 09:18, Bernhard Döble
of money involved.
>
> /David
>
> > John
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Axmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:14 PM
> > To: Damir Dezeljin
> > Cc: MySQL List
> > Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
; John
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Axmark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:14 PM
> To: Damir Dezeljin
> Cc: MySQL List
> Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
>
>
> On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 08:14, Damir Dezeljin wrote:
> > First
Friday, March 21, 2003 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: AW: InterBase vs. Mysql
> On Hannover CeBit'2002 I talked to a guy from MySQL AB. It was the
> time the Firebird 1 release was delayed because of errors in the SQL
> engine. The guy told me he knew about the problem because MySQL
> f
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 21:26, John Griffin wrote:
> Gerald,
>
> One hundred MySQL licenses still works out to $90.00 USD. Even if it
> worked out to half that would still leave me with no margin and so no
> compensation for my time. I am trying to find a way of using MySQL in
> a very low cost mark
John,
> One hundred MySQL licenses still works out to $90.00 USD. Even if it
> worked out to half that would still leave me with no margin and so
> no compensation for my time. I am trying to find a way of
> using MySQL in a very low cost market and still have still have
> pocket change after each
John,
> Actually, I am trying to address the problem of having to buy a $200
> MySQL license for every $50 software product I sell. If you have a
> solution for this problem I would like to know what it is.
> This is a licensing issue that I haven't found a good solution for.
Try with the MySQL
ssage-
From: gerald_clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:49 PM
To: John Griffin
Cc: David Axmark; Damir Dezeljin; MySQL List
Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
Well, then I would buy a $50.00 product using MySQL, and then
your $5000.00 product. Oh, and subtract the $5
; Damir Dezeljin; MySQL List
Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
Buy a hundred at a time.
John Griffin wrote:
>Actually, I am trying to address the problem of having to buy a $200 MySQL license
>for every $50 software product I sell. If you have a solution for this problem I
>would like to
good solution for.
John
-Original Message-
From: gerald_clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 2:49 PM
To: John Griffin
Cc: David Axmark; Damir Dezeljin; MySQL List
Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
Well, then I would buy a $50.00 product using MySQL, and then
your $50
Well, then I would buy a $50.00 product using MySQL, and then
your $5000.00 product. Oh, and subtract the $500.00 license fee.
I already have a license.
I prefer to pay a flat fee for each license, not a fee based on the
price of your software.
John Griffin wrote:
Hello David,
Since you were k
At 05:27 AM 2/18/2003, you wrote:
Hi,
I am a MySQL admin. I like it very much. It is very quick,stable and
easy in configuration.
But I have a boss, who has been told about InterBase. He told me I should
interest in the InterBase, because it is programmed by russian, who made a
great project and
ards
> Bernhard
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ben Clewett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Rusch (ext) Reiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Inandjo Taurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Damir Dezeljin
Cc: MySQL List
Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 08:14, Damir Dezeljin wrote:
> Firstly excuse my poor english ;)))
>
> I read the entire mail thread. I'm useing MySQL for our own data storage
> (I use it to store our oceanographic data for intern
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 18:06, Ben Clewett wrote:
> This will be my last posting. I don't belive I am being constructive
> and have no wish to instantly be hated by the whole of MySQL.
>
> Michael T. Babcock wrote:
> > Ben Clewett wrote:
> >
> >> MySQL say that this is an extension of the applica
On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 08:14, Damir Dezeljin wrote:
> Firstly excuse my poor english ;)))
>
> I read the entire mail thread. I'm useing MySQL for our own data storage
> (I use it to store our oceanographic data for internal use) - I guess that
> I don't need a commercial license for this.
>
> I ha
://www.sqlmanager.net
Best regards,
Vadim Vinokur
EMS HiTech
http://www.ems-hitech.com
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From: "Maciej Bobrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: InterBase vs. Mysql
>
> Hi,
>
> I am a My
Firstly excuse my poor english ;)))
I read the entire mail thread. I'm useing MySQL for our own data storage
(I use it to store our oceanographic data for internal use) - I guess that
I don't need a commercial license for this.
I have another question ... if I will do a commercial program in futu
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 05:06:17PM +, Ben Clewett wrote:
> This will be my last posting. I don't belive I am being constructive
> and have no wish to instantly be hated by the whole of MySQL.
Probably wasn't wise to make a post about how you felt MySQL was
expensive (huh?) and their staff ru
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 17:06:17 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This will be my last posting. I don't belive I am being constructive
> and have no wish to instantly be hated by the whole of MySQL.
[...]
Oh, I do not have anything at all against you. I just tried to correct
what I saw as a miscon
You can require GPL components without having to distribute them. That way
you don't have to support them, either.
Curtis
Ben Clewett said:
> Okay...
>
> BTW, I have cleared purchacing licences with my own people, and we do
> not have a problem. Neither do I not like MySQL, I do.
>
> The lice
Ben Clewett wrote:
What you say is that the API is in my application. The API is part of
MySQL. Therefore my application is GPL or needs a licence.
Please don't confuse API and library. The libmysql or libmysqld
libraries are GPL'd. Anything linked against them is automatically also
GPL
Hi Ben,
>
> I feal I am digging my self a grave here, so this will be
> about my last
> ever posting... Either that or your mailing administrator will start
> bouncing my mail
I don't think so. You said nothing bad!
Just talking about things which perhaps could be better or discuss that
w
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 16:11:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
[...]
> There is also some middle ground here. Which is the overlap of the two.
No. Either the way you distribute your software is GPL-compliant or
not. If it is not, you need a commercial license, if it is
This will be my last posting. I don't belive I am being constructive
and have no wish to instantly be hated by the whole of MySQL.
Michael T. Babcock wrote:
Ben Clewett wrote:
MySQL say that this is an extension of the application, and therefore
breaks the GPL, and therefore a licence is need
Okay...
BTW, I have cleared purchacing licences with my own people, and we do
not have a problem. Neither do I not like MySQL, I do.
The licence model you have supports a model similar to that of Oricle.
Large, small quantity, expensive products. We are at the opposite end.
Small low cost p
Actually, I think you are not quite right in all respects. but feel free to correct me
if I am wrong
Somebody, or some entity still needs to hold the copyright of a product.
How that entity chooses to sell or distribute that product is up to them.
In this case MySQL AB is the copyright hold
Ben Clewett wrote:
MySQL say that this is an extension of the application, and therefore
breaks the GPL, and therefore a licence is needed. They are however,
the only big GPL user who thinks this way.
No they're not. The issue is not the use of the server (as previously
discussed a few w
Hi Ben,
I'm not sure what you really want to sell.
If you have to take a license from MySQL because of a commercial use, you
just have to take ONE license.
Correct me, if I'm wrong!
If you want to sell your programs etc. which uses MySQL then see it in
another way:
Firstly MySQL isn't very expensi
I'm not here to slag MySQL, but this point is extremely interesting.
Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
> Aehem. There seems to be some misconception here. Either your program
> is fine with MySQL being GPL or not.
>
> If it is (and your forking example would work for you) either by using
> MySQL in a way
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Hi
I am getting tired of this argument. This is the MySQL Users mail list, not a
list to slagg of MySQL, its features or staff.
Constructive comment is always welcome, but people on this list have chosen to
use MySQL because of what it is and will
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 12:57:04 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> Most benchmark published actually give credit to mysql when it comes to
> Mysql Vs Interbase, but as an end user, the best tests are the one i
> conduct myself in my premises.
> Therefor when i say that mysql Vs interbase defin
Benjamin Pflugmann wrote:
So the speak about university degrees is pointless (aside from that,
why do you think volunteers wouldn't have a degree...).
Any volunteer who actually manages to improve MySQL in some way is good
enough by my books; with or without the degree.
A Comp. Sci. degree
Hi.
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 11:48:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi Maciej,
>
> the only arguments you can get in favour of mysql is that it's free, and
> some of its SQL statement are faster than interbase.
Well, and outstanding support, IMHO.
> Interbase has the advantage of having views,
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Inandjo Taurel wrote:
hi Maciej,
the only arguments you can get in favour of mysql is that it's free, and
some of its SQL statement are faster than interbase.
Interbase has the advantage of having views, stored
procedures,triggers,and it's crazily
Ben Clewett wrote:
Here MySQL cannot compete. Your too expensive. Possibly only that
MS-MSDE is 50Mb to download that anybody thinks about MySQL at all.
Here there are very little competitive DBMS systems. But there are
some, and more each day. PostgreSQL, MSDE, SapDB, OpenInterbase (or
w
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 12:02:59 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> This is the main reason why I am looking at PostgreSQL at the moment,
> although I've not looked much at Interbase, any good?
>
> Either that, or fork MySQL into FreeMySQL, as we can do under the GPL,
> and not charge our selv
Hi.
Just a little correction.
On Tue 2003-02-18 at 12:44:39 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi Maciej,
>
> I don't know much about Interbase, but MySQL is for some cases a very good
> choice!
> Some database engineers would say MySQL isn't a database because it has no
> transactions by know (i
hi heikki,
thanks for correcting me on the salary aspect.
Most benchmark published actually give credit to mysql when it comes to
Mysql Vs Interbase, but as an end user, the best tests are the one i conduct
myself in my premises.
Therefor when i say that mysql Vs interbase definitely goes to inte
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Inandjo Taurel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: AW: InterBase vs. Mysql
> Here there are very little competitive DBMS systems. But there are
> some, a
Rusch (ext) Reiner wrote:
you're right! It's NOT free. Just for personal use
> there're no costs.
It's a little more liberal than that. For example, you can
run a web site with it for free if you want. The restriction
is the standard GPL licensing restriction that says you can't
use it for fr
Rusch (ext) Reiner wrote:
Hi Ben,
>
you're right! It's NOT free. Just for personal use there're no costs.
Ok, if you're not making money on what you're working, then you're right!
But: Is it the fault of MySQL AB that you sell your work for nothing?
I don't understand, why everybody wants anyth
MySQL Licence will cost us more than our product price.
Wow, what a company!! how much do you sell your products ??
MySQL sails staff are rude and unfriendly.
Can't tell, anytime i needed help, i used this forum, and i rather met some
real interesting guyz and dedicated guyz (widenius, egorov,
Inandjo,
> Subject: Re: InterBase vs. Mysql
> From: Inandjo Taurel
> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 11:48:53 +
>
...
> Don't forget that interbase is also written by professionnal on borland
> campus, guyz who completed a university degree and were assessed and were
> judge
Hi Ben,
> > Some database engineers would say MySQL isn't a database
> because it has no
> > transactions by know (in a stable version).
>
> > But think about, if you really need this!!!
>
> Very much so!
>
> With dependent foreign key constraints that are being developed by
> MySQL, you have
Hi Ben,
> > hi Maciej,
> >
> > the only arguments you can get in favour of mysql is that
> it's free,
>
> Free??? Bollocks.
>
you're right! It's NOT free. Just for personal use there're no costs.
> I program for a small company producing commercial programs.
> We have found:
>
> MySQL L
Just a small comment:
Rusch (ext) Reiner wrote:
Hi Maciej,
I don't know much about Interbase, but MySQL is for some cases a very good
choice!
Some database engineers would say MySQL isn't a database because it has no
transactions by know (in a stable version).
But think about, if you really n
Inandjo Taurel wrote:
hi Maciej,
the only arguments you can get in favour of mysql is that it's free,
Free??? Bollocks.
I program for a small company producing commercial programs. We have found:
MySQL Licence will cost us more than our product price.
MySQL sails staff are rude and unfrie
hi Maciej,
the only arguments you can get in favour of mysql is that it's free, and
some of its SQL statement are faster than interbase.
Interbase has the advantage of having views, stored procedures,triggers,and
it's crazily fast.
Don't forget that interbase is also written by professionnal on
Hi Maciej,
I don't know much about Interbase, but MySQL is for some cases a very good
choice!
Some database engineers would say MySQL isn't a database because it has no
transactions by know (in a stable version).
But think about, if you really need this!!!
In versions 4.x (coming soon in a stable
Hi,
I am a MySQL admin. I like it very much. It is very quick,stable and
easy in configuration.
But I have a boss, who has been told about InterBase. He told me I should
interest in the InterBase, because it is programmed by russian, who made a
great project and told him mysql is totaly worse in
At 05:28 AM 6/3/2002, you wrote:
>Hi all.
>
>I'm looking for a comparison between Interbase and MySQL.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Iago.
lago
See
http://lists.mysql.com/php/search.php?ps=10&q=interbase&ps=20&m=and.
Mike
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Hi all.
I'm looking for a comparison between Interbase and MySQL.
Thanks in advance.
Iago.
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Hi,
I am considering developing a project on mySQL or InterBase. I tried to
find comparisons, benchmarks, etc, but found nothing...
Could anyone point me to such documents?
If anyone cares, I wrote a small PHP script to benchmark both DB.. it's
really simple, but shows mySQL is faster all
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