Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-11 Thread Mike OK
"James Ots" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:53 AM Subject: Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h And in europe we cannot watch all the american TV Series online :( 2012/4/11 Paul Vallee If you own the code, you can license it under multiple licenses. Kind of like if you own

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-11 Thread Claudio Nanni
And in europe we cannot watch all the american TV Series online :( 2012/4/11 Paul Vallee > If you own the code, you can license it under multiple licenses. > > Kind of like if you own a TV Show, you can license it in the US under one > contract, and in other geographies under other more or less

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Vallee
If you own the code, you can license it under multiple licenses. Kind of like if you own a TV Show, you can license it in the US under one contract, and in other geographies under other more or less restrictive contracts. This is a painful reality to those of us in Canada, as we can't watch South

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-09 Thread Andrew Moore
So what's the deal with Twitter's mysql code...how can it be BSD licensed? I'm a bit unsure about the intricacies of licensing. A On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:19 AM, Michael Dykman wrote: > Your code might not qualify for the linking excepetion, but users of > your code can use the inking exceptio

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Dykman
Your code might not qualify for the linking excepetion, but users of your code can use the inking exception to licence their product however they choose. - michael dykman On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 2:43 PM, James Ots wrote: > I don't think I can use a linking exception when I license my code, as >

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-09 Thread James Ots
I don't think I can use a linking exception when I license my code, as the GPL says I must license my code with the same licence that the original code used. James Ots On 8 April 2012 00:52, Michael Dykman wrote: > Not quite true.  Your driver would likely have to be published under > GPL but th

Re: Licensing question about mysql_com.h

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Dykman
Not quite true. Your driver would likely have to be published under GPL but that allows the linking exception which allows users of your driver to avoid having to open-source their own works which utilize the driver.Should someone decide to code bug fixes or extensions for your driver, those w

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-23 Thread mos
Jim, At 01:58 AM 2/23/2007, Jim Winstead wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:33:47PM -0600, mos wrote: > That's just one guy's opinion. :) And quite misinformed, unfortunately. The pricing is what I am getting off of your web site. So if I am misinformed, then it is MySQL AB that is misinformi

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-23 Thread Raul Andres Duque
t; To: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:58 AM Subject: Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba. On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:33:47PM -0600, mos wrote: That's just one guy's opinion. :) And quite misinformed, unfortunately. $

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-23 Thread Jim Winstead
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 11:33:47PM -0600, mos wrote: > That's just one guy's opinion. :) And quite misinformed, unfortunately. $595 is the per-server price for MySQL Enterprise, which includes support, the network monitoring and advisory service, and more. It is not the OEM pricing. You may notic

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
In all seriousness... If the developer is really worried about paying the fee, he can develop his own mysql client. As far as the pointed out documentation links from earlier, the information is there. You do not have to GPL your application if you read the docs. The license of those docs only co

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread mos
At 04:33 PM 2/22/2007, Barry Newton wrote: At 05:00 PM 2/22/2007, mos wrote: On the other hand, if you developed a web application that ran on MySQL (an accounting package say) and you want to distribute it to 1000 MySQL users without giving them your source code, then you will need a My

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Jay Pipes
software advocate wrote: On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do see your point about the sockets layer/client protocol and that language is being removed/has been removed from our website because it has been, as you point out, a source of confusion; I will agree with you there.

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I do see your point about the sockets layer/client protocol and that language is being removed/has been removed from our website because it has been, as you point out, a source of confusion; I will agree with you there. There is one more piece

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
But, on a general note, I *don't* think that MySQL licensing is confusing, and any confusion thereof stems from confusion about what the GPL itself states. I hear tons of times how developers claim that they fall under the mere aggregation clause when in fact they do not -- it's just an attempt

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Jay Pipes
software advocate wrote: On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have no idea what this means. :( First, you were complaining about PHP and Jim noted that we have a PHP native driver in the works. Then, you move on to Python and Java... sounds like you're just flame-baiting. I d

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, Jay Pipes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have no idea what this means. :( First, you were complaining about PHP and Jim noted that we have a PHP native driver in the works. Then, you move on to Python and Java... sounds like you're just flame-baiting. I don't mean to sound like I'

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Jay Pipes
software advocate wrote: Wow, well that is just neat. It's too bad I left PHP for TurboGears. The second problem is the buzz of frameworks (TurboGears, JBoss, etc) which use/want to use MySQL as a backend. This is really the only issue I have with MySQL. They do support other databases, and its

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
Wow, well that is just neat. It's too bad I left PHP for TurboGears. The second problem is the buzz of frameworks (TurboGears, JBoss, etc) which use/want to use MySQL as a backend. This is really the only issue I have with MySQL. They do support other databases, and its not like anyone is twistin

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Jim Winstead
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 01:39:49PM -0900, software advocate wrote: > This is exactly why someone needs to develop a non-gpl mysql drop in client > for PHP. This would get around license costs, despite what MySQL AB has to > say, this would be completely legal. Ask your local rep from the FSF. One >

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
I've personally emailed them in the past. Their response was for me to by a license. When I asked them about creating my own client without reading their docs or source code, they still insisted I buy a license. Anyone who knows the GPL well, knows the communication layer is NOT covered by GPL. S

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
On 2/22/07, mos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: >Let me present what I've read from the MySQL site so far. > >The MySQL protocol notice > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html > >Okay, really confusing. What if someone creates a my

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread software advocate
riginal Message - From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:32 PM >Subject: Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba. > > >>At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: >>>Let me present what I'v

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Barry Newton
At 05:00 PM 2/22/2007, mos wrote: On the other hand, if you developed a web application that ran on MySQL (an accounting package say) and you want to distribute it to 1000 MySQL users without giving them your source code, then you will need a MySQL AB license for each copy ($595,000 in to

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread mos
d? Answer: Not enough sand. :-) - Original Message - From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba. At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: Let me present what I

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread Raul Andres Duque
What do the license say about using MySQL on web aplications (with PHP)?? Regards, RAUL DUQUE Bogotá, Colombia - Original Message - From: "mos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba

Re: [LICENSING] why so hazy? Comparing to Samba.

2007-02-22 Thread mos
At 12:51 PM 2/22/2007, software advocate wrote: Let me present what I've read from the MySQL site so far. The MySQL protocol notice http://dev.mysql.com/doc/internals/en/licensing-notice.html Okay, really confusing. What if someone creates a mysql client without looking at docs or source code o

Re: Licensing issues

2004-08-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:23:01 -0400, Scott Hamm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since I'm trying to implement a new database replacing Access > Database for intranet environment at my work, do I still need a license > since I am not exporting my works out of my company. If you don't redistr

Re: Licensing--web site is schizophrenic

2002-07-08 Thread Victoria Reznichenko
Paul, Sunday, July 07, 2002, 11:05:18 PM, you wrote: PS> At one place on the MySQL site I see: PS> http://www.mysql.com/support/arrangements.html PS> which says the client library is under the LGPL. PS> At another place I see: PS> http://www.mysql.com/doc/C/o/Copyright.html PS> which say

Re: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread Johan Wahlström
give any commercial gain worth the money. (ie earning more than $200 in using this new app..) Regards Johan - Original Message - From: "Sinisa Milivojevic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:54

Re: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread Sinisa Milivojevic
Pål Sollie writes: > > Monday, January 14, 2002, 3:11:00 PM, you wrote: > > require a licence. Otherwise, you do ... > > Even if he uses an unmodified version of MySQL? > > -- > Pål Sollie - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Yes. -- Regards, __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr

RE: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread TOMASSONI Dominique
I agree with Sean. -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : Monday 14 January 2002 2:25 PM À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: Licensing i was under the impression that unless the application will 'only' run under mysql (ie uses a

RE: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread sean . odonnell
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licensing Monday, January 14, 2002, 3:11:00 PM, you wrote: > Frans Englich writes: >> I'm writing an adminstrative program for a hotel located in Sweden. This program uses an mysql database as backend(the implementation is not in use yet, but my i

Re: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread Pål Sollie
Monday, January 14, 2002, 3:11:00 PM, you wrote: > Frans Englich writes: >> I'm writing an adminstrative program for a hotel located in Sweden. This program >uses an mysql database as backend(the implementation is not in use yet, but my >intention is to use mysql). >> >> To be really sure ab

Re: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread Sinisa Milivojevic
Frans Englich writes: > I'm writing an adminstrative program for a hotel located in Sweden. This program >uses an mysql database as backend(the implementation is not in use yet, but my >intention is to use mysql). > > To be really sure about this: > Do the hotel _have_ to get an MySql databas

Re: Licensing

2002-01-14 Thread DL Neil
> > I'm writing an adminstrative program for a hotel located in > > Sweden. This program uses an mysql database as backend(the > > implementation is not in use yet, but my intention is to use mysql). > > > > To be really sure about this: Do the hotel _have_ to get an MySql > > database License or

Re: Licensing

2002-01-13 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 09:15:37PM +0100, Frans Englich wrote: > I'm writing an adminstrative program for a hotel located in > Sweden. This program uses an mysql database as backend(the > implementation is not in use yet, but my intention is to use mysql). > > To be really sure about this: Do th

Re: Licensing

2002-01-13 Thread Gerald R. Jensen
Frans: Legalities aside, why not let fairness and common decency prevail? The MySQL team has a created a powerful, functional DB server. If you use their product(s) in a commercial application for which you are being paid, why would you NOT want to purchase a license? If the US$200 price is too

Re: Licensing question

2001-11-09 Thread Arjen G. Lentz
Hi Shankar, - Original Message - From: "Shankar Unni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > What are the rules about "bundling" now? If we distribute a (standalone) > copy of MySQL with our product, does that expose our product to the GPL? Or > is it just like distributing a copy of Emacs with your OS?

Re: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-31 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, Aug 30, 2001 at 12:01:09PM -0400, Jay Fesco wrote: > > Is anyone else getting a strange flag associated with Jeremy's > email, or is it just me? Every one of his posts comes in flagged > in Outlook, and the headers have a line which reads: > > X-message-flag: Mailbox corrupt. Pleas

Re: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-30 Thread Sasha Pachev
On Thursday 30 August 2001 11:43, you wrote: > Mike, John; > > What mike is saying below seems quite true: > > > "For normal internal use, MySQL costs nothing. You do not have to pay us > > (them) if you do not want to." > > That being said, Caldera PS has fielded clients who specifically ask f

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site (way beyond OT)

2001-08-30 Thread Jay Fesco
> i think this is jeremy's not-so-subtle way of bashing your choice of email > client. > check this link: > http://www.rodos.net/outlook/#messageflag > > -ravi. > Yeah, yeah - I got it. Only problem is that I DON'T have a choice (company policy et al)... \:^{ Jay Fesco Magical Myst

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-30 Thread Robert Alexander
Hi Jay, I'd definitely suspect Outlook (or LOOKOUT! as a few of my network support buddies call it) as the source of the problem, rather than anything to do with Jeremy's emails. I'm having no problems here -- but then again, I don't use any Microsoft products. :> Good luck, /Rob As Rob Gla

Re: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-30 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Jay Fesco« am 2001-08-30 um 12:01:09 -0400 : > X-message-flag: Mailbox corrupt. Please upgrade your mail software. It's a "feature" of Outlook, which will interpret this header line and display the note which is in it. > database,sql,query,table Alexander Skwar -- How to quote: h

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-30 Thread Jay Fesco
> > -- > > Jeremy D. Zawodny, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance > > Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408) 685-5936 > > > Is anyone else getting a strange flag associated with Jeremy's email, or is it just me? Every one of his posts comes in flagged

Re: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-29 Thread Robert Cross
>If I'm using MySQL for an intranet site within my corporation, is there any >licensing required? John, we're in the same kind of situation here, (I'm using MySQL as part of something that I'm delivering to another part of the business for their internal use). AFAIK the position is that if you

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-29 Thread Mike Tiffee
gust 29, 2001 5:53 PM To: Mike Tiffee; 'John Meyer'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site Mike, John; What mike is saying below seems quite true: > "For normal internal use, MySQL costs nothing. You do not have to pay us > (them) if you do not

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-29 Thread Allan Clark
Mike, John; What mike is saying below seems quite true: > "For normal internal use, MySQL costs nothing. You do not have to pay us > (them) if you do not want to." That being said, Caldera PS has fielded clients who specifically ask for MySQL; we also use a MySQL database on UnixWare as a repos

RE: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-29 Thread Mike Tiffee
"For normal internal use, MySQL costs nothing. You do not have to pay us (them) if you do not want to." -Original Message- From: John Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Licensing terms for an Intranet site If I'm usin

Re: Licensing terms for an Intranet site

2001-08-29 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 02:17:56PM -0700, John Meyer wrote: > If I'm using MySQL for an intranet site within my corporation, is > there any licensing required? Nope. -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408

Re: Licensing doubt

2001-05-10 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:52:02PM -0300, Trelio wrote: > > What are the license requirements in windows platform ? Everything > that regards mysql on linux applies to mysql on windows ? MySQL is licensed under the GPL. You may use it freely. The manual describes the available support arrangemen

Re: Licensing Question

2001-04-27 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Apr 27, 2001 at 07:15:59PM -0500, Alec Solway wrote: > > I'm a bit confused about whether I need to purchase a license in the > following situation. Different sources (MySQL by Paul DuBois and the > MySQL doc) differ in certain aspects, I assume the doc is more > accurate, but even still,