RE: MyISAM index missing rows

2013-08-12 Thread Rick James
certain rows can no longer be found -- Do CHECK TABLE. (It will take a lng time.) It may tell you to REPAIR TABLE, which will also take a lng time; but it will be necessary. (This is a strong reason for going to InnoDB. But it will be 2x-3x bigger on disk.) -Original

Re: MyISAM table size vs actual data, and performance

2013-02-22 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message - From: Rick James rja...@yahoo-inc.com Hey Rick, Thanks for your thoughts. * Smells like some huge LONGTEXTs were INSERTed, then DELETEd. Perhaps just a single one of nearly 500M. I considered that, too; but I can see the on-disk size grow over a period of a

RE: MyISAM table size vs actual data, and performance

2013-02-21 Thread Rick James
* Smells like some huge LONGTEXTs were INSERTed, then DELETEd. Perhaps just a single one of nearly 500M. * Yes, there is an impact on full table scans -- it has to step over the empty spots. Or maybe not -- one big cow chip of 500MB would be easy to leap over. * OPTIMIZE TABLE is the

Re: Myisam won't support replication in an MySQL Cluster environment

2012-05-07 Thread Johan De Meersman
- Original Message - From: Charles Brown cbr...@bmi.com Interestingly, over the years, I've been reading your postings and threads - without a doubt you're a major contributor. You've been very resourceful and helpful to your peers. We may never know what caused you to violently

Re: Myisam won't support replication in an MySQL Cluster environment

2012-05-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.05.2012 06:45, schrieb Brown: Does anyone have idea or experienced in MySQL Cluster configured for bi-directional replication. Please advise me if you have to use NDBcluster engine in order to get replication between the data nodes. I'm using MYISAM on several tables that will not

RE: Myisam won't support replication in an MySQL Cluster environment

2012-05-04 Thread Brown, Charles
that an intelligent individual like you would bring himself this low flies in the face of all rational behavior. Best regards, -Original Message- From: Reindl Harald [mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 3:23 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Myisam won't

Re: Myisam won't support replication in an MySQL Cluster environment

2012-05-04 Thread Reindl Harald
[mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net] Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 3:23 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Myisam won't support replication in an MySQL Cluster environment Am 04.05.2012 06:45, schrieb Brown: Does anyone have idea or experienced in MySQL Cluster configured for bi-directional

Re: Myisam won't support replication

2012-05-03 Thread Andrew Moore
Charles, How do you know your replication isn't working? On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Brown, Charles cbr...@bmi.com wrote: I noticed that my replication stopped working after migrating to MySQL cluster. My current engine is myisam. Does anyone have an idea why repl won't work. Do I have

RE: Myisam won't support replication

2012-05-03 Thread Rick James
If I am not mistaken, NDB Cluster replication is separate from InnoDB/MyISAM. Perhaps you set one up, but not the other? -Original Message- From: Andrew Moore [mailto:eroomy...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 2:35 PM To: Brown, Charles Cc: MySQL; DC Subject: Re: Myisam

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Suresh Kuna
use repair table table_name use_frm ; and try it out. It needs to be run inside mysql. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am trying to repair the table and i got this error I tried with myisamchk --rq --tmpdir= /var/lib/mysql/tablog/TabEvents.MYI

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Ramesh
mysql repair table SystemEvents.frm; +--++--++ | Table| Op | Msg_type | Msg_text | +--++--++ | SysEvents.frm

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Suresh Kuna
Run this - repair table SystemEvents use_frm ; On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: mysql repair table SystemEvents.frm; +--++--++ | Table| Op | Msg_type | Msg_text

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Ramesh
Lost all the records once i done the repair table with use_frm. On 19 May 2011 10:30, Suresh Kuna sureshkumar...@gmail.com wrote: Run this - repair table SystemEvents use_frm ; On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: mysql repair table SystemEvents.frm;

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Suresh Kuna
Can you paste the table files in the datadir and the execution part of the below query. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: Lost all the records once i done the repair table with use_frm. On 19 May 2011 10:30, Suresh Kuna sureshkumar...@gmail.com wrote: Run

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Ramesh
Is that index and all will be fine in that table, or have to create again? On 19 May 2011 11:11, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: Lost all the records once i done the repair table with use_frm. On 19 May 2011 10:30, Suresh Kuna sureshkumar...@gmail.com wrote: Run this - repair table

Re: MyISAM Repair table problem

2011-05-18 Thread Suresh Kuna
The index file will rebuild by using the above command. On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: Is that index and all will be fine in that table, or have to create again? On 19 May 2011 11:11, Ramesh rames...@gmail.com wrote: Lost all the records once i done the

Re: MyISAM key length

2011-05-03 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Sha, I think you need to explain yourself better to have a proper answer. Are you talking about MySQL source code? Claudio 2011/5/3 shahryar ghazi shahryar.gh...@gmail.com Hi, I have a question regarding MyISAM key length in MySQL 5.5.x. Can someone tell me the files (and lines) to

Re: MyISAM key length

2011-05-03 Thread shahryar ghazi
Yes, I was talking about modifying MySQL source code. Thanks. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Claudio Nanni claudio.na...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Sha, I think you need to explain yourself better to have a proper answer. Are you talking about MySQL source code? Claudio 2011/5/3 shahryar

Re: Myisam advantages

2010-07-19 Thread Keith Murphy
Since everyone keeps bringing up Innodb's shared tablespace, I will point out that Innodb has a file-per-table option where each table has it own tablespace. This helps with management issues. While there is still a central datafile it doesn't contain table data and is much smaller than if you

RE: Myisam advantages

2010-07-19 Thread Gavin Towey
@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Myisam advantages Since everyone keeps bringing up Innodb's shared tablespace, I will point out that Innodb has a file-per-table option where each table has it own tablespace. This helps with management issues. While there is still a central datafile it doesn't contain table

Re: Myisam advantages

2010-07-19 Thread Rob Wultsch
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM, P.R.Karthik prk...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi,  I am newbie to mysql can i know the advantages of myisam storage engine and some of its special features. -- Regards Karthik.P.R kart...@mafiree.com Special features: 1. Not atomic. 2. No consistency. 3. Horrible

Re: Myisam advantages

2010-07-17 Thread Jan Steinman
From: P.R.Karthik prk...@gmail.com I am newbie to mysql can i know the advantages of myisam storage engine and some of its special features. Works better with file-based incremental backup systems. With InnoDB, you end up backing up a humongous file of all your InnoDB tables, even if

Re: Myisam advantages

2010-07-16 Thread Prabhat Kumar
Hi, Much more conservative approach to disk space management - each MyISAM table is stored in a separate file, which could be compressed then with myisamchk if needed. With InnoDB the tables are stored in tablespace, and not much further optimization is possible. All data except for TEXT and BLOB

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-09 Thread mos
Kyong, Thanks for the feedback on InnoDb. I will tinker with it when I have more time. I wonder if MySQL will ever release an alternative to Innodb like Falcon or whether Falcon is dead as a dodo? :-) Mike At 11:07 PM 4/8/2010, Kyong Kim wrote: We've seen good results throwing more

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-09 Thread Lucky Wijaya
is reliable enough ? Regards, Lucky. From: mos mo...@fastmail.fm To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 10:03:26 PM Subject: Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files? Kyong, Thanks for the feedback on InnoDb. I will tinker with it when I have

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-08 Thread mos
At 09:10 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: Also depends on your data access pattern as well. If you can take advantage of clustering my primary key for your selects, then InnoDB could do it for you. My suggestion would be to write some queries based on projected workload, build 2 tables with lots and lots

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-08 Thread Kyong Kim
We've seen good results throwing more RAM to the buffer pool. It is true that InnoDB data never gets accessed directly on disk. The only downside I know of with a larger buffer pool is slower restarts. The load speed depends on the order of the inserts. Random inserts or updates to primary key

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-07 Thread Kyong Kim
Also depends on your data access pattern as well. If you can take advantage of clustering my primary key for your selects, then InnoDB could do it for you. My suggestion would be to write some queries based on projected workload, build 2 tables with lots and lots of data, and do some isolated

RE: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-05 Thread Jan Steinman
From: Gavin Towey gto...@ffn.com InnoDB should be your default for all tables, unless you have specific requirements that need myisam. One specific example of an appropriate task for myisam is where you need very high insert throughput, and you're not doing any updates/deletes

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-05 Thread Kyong Kim
Also depends on your data access pattern as well. If you can take advantage of clustering my primary key for your selects, then InnoDB could do it for you. My suggestion would be to write some queries based on projected workload, build 2 tables with lots and lots of data, and do some isolated

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Carsten Pedersen
InnoDB won't give you much in terms of disk crash recovery. That's what backups are for. Where InnoDB does excel is if your database server dies while updating rows. If that happens, your database will come back up with sane data. For both table types, once the data has been flushed to disk,

RE: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Gavin Towey
grows, the improvement in performance from using innodb over myisam becomes more pronounced. Regards, Gavin Towey -Original Message- From: Carsten Pedersen [mailto:cars...@bitbybit.dk] Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 12:58 PM To: Mitchell Maltenfort Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 02), Gavin Towey said: I disagree. There's nothing about his requirements that sounds like MyIsam is a better solution. InnoDB should be your default for all tables, unless you have specific requirements that need myisam. One specific example of an appropriate task

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
You want the crash safety and data integrity that comes with InnoDB.  Even more so as your dataset grows.  It's performance is far better than myisam tables for most OLTP users, and as your number of concurrent readers and writers grows, the improvement in performance from using innodb over

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Walter Heck - OlinData.com
Ah, if you are single-user and updating really is a special occasion that is completely in your control, you could even use compressed MyISAM. That makes the table read-only though, but it does give performance benefits: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/myisampack.html good luck! Walter

Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files?

2010-04-02 Thread Mitchell Maltenfort
Didn't even know that one existed. It has an attraction, esp. in terms of backing up the data. But the link refers to the performance benefit in accessing one line at a time. Supposing I was doing a search for all records where a particular string is present -- what would the overhead be in the

Re: MyISAM to InnoDB

2010-02-10 Thread Martijn Tonies
What is the basic functionality of the MyISAM, InnoDB etc ? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/storage-engines.html With regards, Martijn Tonies Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com Download Database Workbench for Oracle, MS SQL Server, Sybase SQL Anywhere, MySQL, InterBase,

Re: MyISAM no table lock

2010-02-08 Thread Johan De Meersman
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote: Hi there. I was reading last week (and of course, i can't find it now) something about 'nicifying' a query, so taht it doesn't lock the table... How is this done? I've read so much stuff lately, that i can't find it

RE: MyISAM no table lock

2010-02-08 Thread Steve Staples
[mailto:vegiv...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Johan De Meersman Sent: February 8, 2010 10:01 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM no table lock On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Steve Staples sstap...@mnsi.net wrote: Hi there. I was reading last week (and of course, i can't find it now) something

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-03-01 Thread Baron Schwartz
Claudio, http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2007/10/29/hacking-to-make-alter-table-online-for-certain-changes/ Your mileage may vary, use at your own risk, etc. Basically: convince MySQL that the indexes have already been built but need to be repaired, then run REPAIR TABLE. As long as the

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-03-01 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Baron, I need to try some trick like that, a sort of offline index building. Luckily I have a slave on that is basically a backup server. Tomorrow I am going to play more with the dude. Do you think that there would be any improvement in converting the table to InnoDB forcing to use multiple

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-03-01 Thread Brent Baisley
Be careful with using InnoDB with large tables. Performance drops quickly and quite a bit once the size exceeds your RAM capabilities. On Mar 1, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Claudio Nanni wrote: Hi Baron, I need to try some trick like that, a sort of offline index building. Luckily I have a slave on

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-02-28 Thread Claudio Nanni
Hi Rolando, I am going to give it a try, but the thing is that the creation of index with MyISAM table causes a re-copy of the table (using temporary table) and so it is the same thing, and seens to take a lot of time. I stopped it after 10 hours or so. I think is the way mysql manages the

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-02-28 Thread Claudio Nanni
Yes I killed several times the query but now way, the server was continuing to hog disk space and not even shutdown worked! Thanks! Claudio 2009/2/27 Brent Baisley brentt...@gmail.com MySQL can handle large tables no problem, it's large queries that it has issues with. You couldn't just kill

Re: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-02-27 Thread Claudio Nanni
Great Brent, helps a lot! it is very good to know your experience. I will speak to developers and try to see if there is the opportunity to apply the 'Divide et Impera' principle! I am sorry to say MySQL it is a little out of control when dealing with huge tables, it is the first time I had to

RE: MyISAM large tables and indexes managing problems

2009-02-27 Thread Rolando Edwards
Have you tried disabling indexes while loading? Here is what I mean... CREATE TABLE tb1 (A INT NOT NULL AUTO INCREMENT PRIMARY KEY,B VARCHAR(20),C VARCHAR(10)); Load tb1 with data Create a new table, tb2, with new structure (indexing B and C columns) CREATE TABLE tb2 LIKE tb1; ALTER TABLE tb2

Re: MyISAM optimize

2008-10-15 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
Hello Olaf, 1) OPTIMIZE TABLE is the same as mysqlcheck with --optimize flag. 2) Both take care of large chunks of deleted data. 3) As mysqlcheck is just a frontend for OPTIMIZE TABLE command, it should be replicated in either case. 2008/10/15, Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All, Just

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Jose Estuardo Avila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been trying to find information on how myisam handles locks. I though myisam had locking only on writes and not on reads. No, readers block writers. This true of any system that only has read and write locks

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Jose Estuardo Avila
I understand that reads are locked by writes but nowhere does of mention that reads also block reads. Boy queries y posted to the list are selects. Jose E. Avila(tachu) Yuku/Kickapps Sent from mobile device. On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 28), Jose Estuardo Avila said: On Aug 28, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Perrin Harkins wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Jose Estuardo Avila wrote: Hi, I've been trying to find information on how myisam handles locks. I though myisam had locking only on writes and not on

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jose Estuardo Avila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that reads are locked by writes but nowhere does of mention that reads also block reads. How could they not? You can't simultaneously read and write the same data -- the read would get half-written

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Jose Estuardo Avila
My point is that on my process lists there are no writes being done at that time only reads and actually only one read all other reads are locked as well as writes. I've gone through every single one of the queries in my processlist at any given time when more than 500 process pile up and

Re: MyIsam Locking Questions

2008-08-28 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Jose Estuardo Avila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My point is that on my process lists there are no writes being done at that time only reads and actually only one read all other reads are locked as well as writes. Sure, that's because the reads are in line behind

Re: myisam

2008-04-21 Thread Ananda Kumar
Hi, Keep your key_buffer_size to 25% of your physical RAM. This should be good. regards anandkl On 4/21/08, Krishna Chandra Prajapati [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am using myisam engine and there is 25 GB of data. The data is keep on growing. How should i know that when to increase

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-26 Thread Sebastian Mendel
; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM To: Edoardo Serra Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference just want to take a note on 4Gbytes What

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-26 Thread Edoardo Serra
Tnx for your interest # uname -a Linux corona 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu May 31 23:51:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux 64 bit shouldn't have problems in using 4gb of ram .. right ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: just want to take a note on 4Gbytes What kernel u use? 4Gbytes or bigger means

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-26 Thread Edoardo Serra
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM To: Edoardo Serra Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference just want to take a note on 4Gbytes What kernel u use? 4Gbytes or bigger means nothing

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-26 Thread Edoardo Serra
-30 23:59:59' ) GROUP BY day, disposition; -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM To: Edoardo Serra Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference just want

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-25 Thread ady . wicaksono
just want to take a note on 4Gbytes What kernel u use? 4Gbytes or bigger means nothing on your MySQL, because if your kernel is not compiled using correct patch or simply use CentOS/RHEL, then your MySQl will limited to use up to 2Gbytes only, so 4Gbytes -- 2Gbytes is useless On 11/25/07,

RE: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance difference

2007-11-25 Thread joe
U might want to try seting you index to calldate, disposition -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 10:03 PM To: Edoardo Serra Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB - Index choice and Huge performance

Re: myISAM Max File Size?

2007-02-08 Thread John Meyer
Phil Butterworth wrote: Can anyone please tell me what the Max size a myISAM file can grow too? Thanks Best Regards Phil Butterworth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/204119 Funny what google can do for you, wot say? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list

Re: MyISAM issues for UTF-8?

2007-01-16 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 15/01/07, Gabriel PREDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Read here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/charset-connection.html have fun ! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Gabriel PREDA Senior Web Developer Thanks. Been quite a while since I've deserved a good RTFM! :) Dotan Cohen

Re: MyISAM issues for UTF-8?

2007-01-15 Thread Gabriel PREDA
Why is MyISAM problematic... MyISAM is a storage engine with some features... InnoDB is another storage engine with other features... and so on... As far as I know MyISAM is default storage engine... unless you specify by hand another storage engine: CREATE TABLE xyz (colX INT NULL)

Re: MyISAM issues for UTF-8?

2007-01-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 15/01/07, Gabriel PREDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is MyISAM problematic... MyISAM is a storage engine with some features... InnoDB is another storage engine with other features... and so on... As far as I know MyISAM is default storage engine... unless you specify by hand another storage

Re: MyISAM issues for UTF-8?

2007-01-15 Thread Gabriel PREDA
Read here: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/charset-connection.html have fun ! -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Gabriel PREDA Senior Web Developer -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-07 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 11/6/06, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:22:18 -0800, Jochem van Dieten escreveu: PostgreSQL supports 2 phase commit. IIRC except for transaction interleaving, join and suspend/resume it supports XA. I think that puts it about on par with Ingres and

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-07 Thread Lars Heidieker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7 Nov 2006, at 12:35, Jochem van Dieten wrote: On 11/6/06, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:22:18 -0800, Jochem van Dieten escreveu: PostgreSQL supports 2 phase commit. IIRC except for transaction

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Fri, 03 Nov 2006 09:18:21 +0100, Martijn Tonies escreveu: On two-phase commits? I guess it's the IB 6 docs where you have to read that, or get a copy of Helen Borries Firebird book. Get a copy of the IBPhoenix CD that includes docs. The Firebird project itself has no full documentation

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-06 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 10:22:18 -0800, Jochem van Dieten escreveu: PostgreSQL supports 2 phase commit. IIRC except for transaction interleaving, join and suspend/resume it supports XA. I think that puts it about on par with Ingres and Firebird. I would have to analyze better, but I think

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-06 Thread Martijn Tonies
On two-phase commits? I guess it's the IB 6 docs where you have to read that, or get a copy of Helen Borries Firebird book. Get a copy of the IBPhoenix CD that includes docs. The Firebird project itself has no full documentation yet - it's being worked on. Hm, do you mean 2PC are

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-03 Thread Martijn Tonies
InterBase had two-phase commits ages ago, Firebird inherited it. If there's anything specific you want to know, ask I *am* asking — where is the specific piece of documentation? On two-phase commits? I guess it's the IB 6 docs where you have to read that, or get a copy of Helen Borries

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:34:05 -0600, mos escreveu: At 05:56 AM 11/1/2006, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool);

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Martijn Tonies
Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool); BDB, which is deprecated until further notices; and SolidDB, which is still β. Ok, so your solution is to use

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread mos
At 08:32 AM 11/2/2006, you wrote: Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool); BDB, which is deprecated until further notices; and SolidDB, which is still β.

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Martijn Tonies
Is there a better open source database out there for that amount of data? Several. MySQLâ?Ts own MaxDB, PostgreSQL, Firebird if you are into Borland stuff, Ingres if you need XA distributed transactions. Firebird isn't Borland :-) I usually recommend PostgreSQL, or Ingres if

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 15:32:06 +0100, Martijn Tonies escreveu: Several. MySQL’s own MaxDB, PostgreSQL, Firebird if you are into Borland stuff, Ingres if you need XA distributed transactions. Firebird isn't Borland Granted. But it is (even more) attractive if you are already a

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Martijn Tonies
Several. MySQL’s own MaxDB, PostgreSQL, Firebird if you are into Borland stuff, Ingres if you need XA distributed transactions. Firebird isn't Borland Granted. But it is (even more) attractive if you are already a Borland shop. I usually recommend PostgreSQL, or Ingres if

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 11/2/06, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Em Wed, 01 Nov 2006 09:34:05 -0600, mos escreveu: Is there a better open source database out there for that amount of data? Several. MySQL's own MaxDB, PostgreSQL, Firebird if you are into Borland stuff, Ingres if you need XA

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:30:14 +0100, Martijn Tonies escreveu: Falcon has a transactional storage engine, including Foreign Keys (Jim wouldn't do a database without em) Obviouſly. MGA Ma ze? -- Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA +55 (11) 9406 7191 (cel) Administrador

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-02 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:40:44 +0100, Martijn Tonies escreveu: InterBase had two-phase commits ages ago, Firebird inherited it. If there's anything specific you want to know, ask I *am* asking — where is the specific piece of documentation? Because if you don’t read MySQL’s

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA
Em Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:24:44 -0500, Francis escreveu: MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool); BDB, which is deprecated

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Miles Thompson
At 07:56 AM 11/1/2006, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: snip .. further notices; and SolidDB, which is still β. Choose your evil. -- Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA +55 (11) 9406 7191 (cel) Administrador de (Bases de) Dados +55 (11) 2122 0302 (com)

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Jon Ribbens
Miles Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 07:56 AM 11/1/2006, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: snip .. further notices; and SolidDB, which is still β. Help this poor English-speaker - what's the symbol you use to describe SolidDB? I assume it is a beta character, since

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Paul McCullagh
On Nov 1, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Em Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:24:44 -0500, Francis escreveu: MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread mos
At 05:56 AM 11/1/2006, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA wrote: Em Tue, 31 Oct 2006 15:24:44 -0500, Francis escreveu: MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Martijn Tonies
MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool); BDB, which is deprecated until further notices; and SolidDB, which is still

Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help

2006-11-01 Thread Rolando Edwards
If you are do this in MySQL 5, try this: ALTER TABLE table-name ENGINE = InnoDB; That's all. Let MySQL worry about conversion. You may also want to tweek the innodb system variables (show variables like 'innodb%) for better InnoDB performance prior to trying this. - Original Message -

RE: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help

2006-11-01 Thread Mikhail Berman
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:05 AM To: Mikhail Berman Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help If you are do this in MySQL 5, try this: ALTER TABLE table-name ENGINE = InnoDB; That's all. Let MySQL worry about conversion. You may

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Edward Macnaghten
Francis wrote: Question about MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use, I have a large table contain around 10 millons of records. What is the best for me ? Use MyISAM or InnoDB ? Depends VERY much on your application. If any concurrency and/or durability is required then I would

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Edward Macnaghten
Francis wrote: Question about MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use, I have a large table contain around 10 millons of records. What is the best for me ? Use MyISAM or InnoDB ? Depends VERY much on your application. If any concurrency and/or durability is required then I would

Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help

2006-11-01 Thread Rolando Edwards
-0500 US/Eastern Subject: RE: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help Hi Rolando, Thank you for your help. I am on MySQL 5, and I have tried to do the conversion using ALTER TABLE command. With the same very slow result. Do you by any chance have specific suggestions how to tweak variables related

Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help

2006-11-01 Thread Rolando Edwards
Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mikhail Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 11:24:00 AM GMT-0500 US/Eastern Subject: Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help Check these variable bulk_insert_buffer_size (Default usually 8M) innodb_buffer_pool_size (Default

RE: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help

2006-11-01 Thread Mikhail Berman
Great, Thank you for your help Rolando, Mikhail Berman -Original Message- From: Rolando Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 11:41 AM Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com; Mikhail Berman Subject: Re: MyISAM to InnoDB conversion help I just noticed your

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread mos
At 09:35 AM 11/1/2006, Martijn Tonies wrote: MyISAM vs InnoDB ? What is the best to use Always use a DBMS, and MySQL is no (proper) DBMS without a transactional backend. There are InnoDB, which is not completely free (needs a proprietary backup tool); BDB, which is deprecated until

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 11/1/06, mos wrote: Sure, I've thought of those too. But has anyone gotten Firebird to store 700-800gb tables? Can you split Firebird's .gdb file across drives? The main problem with tables of that size is maintaining the index. My upper limit for MySQL is 100 million rows. After

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread mos
At 02:27 PM 11/1/2006, Jochem van Dieten wrote: On 11/1/06, mos wrote: Sure, I've thought of those too. But has anyone gotten Firebird to store 700-800gb tables? Can you split Firebird's .gdb file across drives? The main problem with tables of that size is maintaining the index. My

Re: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-11-01 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 11/1/06, mos wrote: At 02:27 PM 11/1/2006, Jochem van Dieten wrote: What is the big deal of a TB? Now, if you get past 20 TB you might want to team up with one of the commercial PostgreSQL supporters (Fujitsu, EnterpriseDB, Greenplum etc.), but Sun even sells appliances for 100 TB

RE: MyISAM vs InnoDB

2006-10-31 Thread Jimmy Guerrero
Hello, Although the number of records is a consideration to weigh in your decision, there are many other (perhaps more important) factors to consider. For example, do you need foreign keys? transactions? row-level locks?...then InnoDB is your choice. Perhaps with more details concerning the

Re: myisam primary key with innodb primary key..

2006-09-12 Thread Chris
Lakshmi wrote: Hi, I want to know is there any difference between myisam primary index vs innodb primary index... One's for a myisam table one's for an innodb table. They are treated exactly the same - both are unique, both have indexes. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives:

Re: myisam primary key with innodb primary key..

2006-09-12 Thread Praj
Hi Lakshmi , I guess both treated same . But physical structure of storage is different from Myisam and Innodb . Correct me if iam wrong . Lakshmi wrote: Hi, I want to know is there any difference between myisam primary index vs innodb primary index... -- MySQL General Mailing List

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