Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-23 Thread Bernd Jagla
Thanks to everybody for the nice discussion. Just to let you know about my (not necessary final) decisions: We will upgrade our SCSI -II controller to an Ultra SCSI 160 controller (always a good idea). Next we are looking into buying a RAID-5 system from RAIDking. While we do this we hope for

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Alec . Cawley
RE: SCSI needed for best performance - While this is true in some cases, if you are using striping or any RAID level (RAID 5 for example) that splits reads and writes across drives, then there will be several IDE channels feeding data to the RAID card at a time. Two ATA100 IDE channels

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Steven Roussey
After testing a lot of different configurations (which was quite a headache), I came up with the following. First of all, for both speed and reliability, you will want SCSI. The list of reasons are quite long for SCSI, and as you are doing research on the subject, it is an obvious choice and I

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Steven Roussey
What sort of throughput are you seeing in that setup? God, I can't remember anymore. I can run a test again though. If you have one you want me to run, just send it. We don't have other people's money to spend, so all our disks are U160 18GB 15K IBM. They were less than $100 each when we got

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
---Original Message- --From: Adam Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:56 AM --To: 'Bernd Jagla'; 'mysql' --Subject: RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience -- --We recently bought a kick $%#%% machine for ~10k -- --HP DL380 --2x2.8GHz Xeon --1GB RAM --5

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Adam Nelson
'; 'mysql' Subject: RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience ---Original Message- --From: Adam Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 11:56 AM --To: 'Bernd Jagla'; 'mysql' --Subject: RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience -- --We recently bought a kick

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Steven Roussey
2 x 2.8 GHZ Xeon 4 GB of RAM 5 15K SCSI Drives ICP SCSCI RAID control card with 1 Gb of ram on it. I just bought 30 of these boxes to build out my mysql farm for close to 400-600 queries a second with 60 connections a second of mix read / writes. What kind of queries are you doing? Our

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
hardware suggestions/experience -- -- --2 x 2.8 GHZ Xeon --4 GB of RAM --5 15K SCSI Drives --ICP SCSCI RAID control card with 1 Gb of ram on it. --I just bought 30 of these boxes to build out my mysql farm for close to --400-600 queries a second with 60 connections a second of mix read / --writes

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Tomasz Korycki
At 13:14 2003-06-17, Bernd Jagla wrote: Sorry I forgot to mention: We are using IRIS on an Origion2000, 7GB memory, 8 CPUs. I was thinking of spending up to $10K. I also wanted the redundant data for speeding up the seeks, I also need to speed up the writes. Bernd I assume You mean IRIX on O2k.

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Steven Roussey
A lot of table scans do to bitmasked column values. Such that the above query will not utilize a key. That statement gave me a cold shiver up my spine. You could try an inverted index or match-cache technique, or denormalization. These type of techniques are very app specific, but can reduce

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-18 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 03:20:17PM -0400, Adam Nelson wrote: Where'd you get it. I've had bad experiences with generic machines but I'll take a peak if you send the link? There are a couple of things I didn't mention 2U Form Factor with tool-less rails Redundant Power Supply Redundant

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Patrick Shoaf
I am using 4 120G IDE Drives with an Adaptec IDE RAID Controller on RedHat Linux providing 240G of RAID 5 storage. While not quite as fast as SCSI, I have found this to work very well. You should be able to pickup a nice dual processor XENON 2.4Ghz system w/1G Ram and IDE RAID loaded with

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread David Griffiths
Subject: Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience I am using 4 120G IDE Drives with an Adaptec IDE RAID Controller on RedHat Linux providing 240G of RAID 5 storage. While not quite as fast as SCSI, I have found this to work very well. You should be able to pickup a nice dual processor XENON

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Kerry Colligan
Tried a Promise FastTrak 100 TX2 in a Dell; RH 7.3. Miserable. Bailed on it after one month. Kerry -Original Message- From: David Griffiths [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience Anyone had

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Christopher Knight
Im using a 3ware (which has great linux support) Escalade 7800 with 8 120GB/8MB cache ide drives in RAID 10 under Debian with 2.4.20 kernel. I guess what we need to know is what platform and how much $$ you wanna spend -Original Message- From: Bernd Jagla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Mike Hillyer
] Subject: Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience Anyone had any experience with 3Ware 7500-4 IDE RAID or the Promise SX-6000 IDE RAID cards? Specifically for Linux. Heard bad things about Promise, good about 3Ware. David - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoaf [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Quinlan, Grant
of Luck, Grant Q -Original Message- From: Gabriel Guzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 10:06 AM To: Bernd Jagla Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql Subject: Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience Bernd, here is a good resource on the different types

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread William R. Mussatto
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience Anyone had any experience with 3Ware 7500-4 IDE RAID or the Promise SX-6000 IDE RAID cards? Specifically for Linux. Heard bad things about Promise, good about 3Ware. David - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoaf

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Gabriel Guzman
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 09:58, David Griffiths wrote: Anyone had any experience with 3Ware 7500-4 IDE RAID or the Promise SX-6000 IDE RAID cards? Specifically for Linux. Heard bad things about Promise, good about 3Ware. If I had to choose between the two, I would go with the 3wares. They work

Re: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread David Griffiths
, 2003 10:41 AM Subject: RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience Optimally, Yes, you should replace with exact same brand/model etc... but you CAN replace with a different brand/ model drive of the same amount of disk space or more. It isn't recomended (because of different seek times, cache

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Christopher Knight
away with it w/o any adverse effects. -Original Message- From: William R. Mussatto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 12:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience I have heard good thing about 3Ware, but I would suggest looking

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Mike Hillyer
To me the question of reliability is that of the drive, not the interface. I cannot see SATA itself being any more or less reliable than ATA drives. I think certain controllers will accept a new drive that has similar characteristics as long as the replacement drive is larger than the lost drive.

RE: RAID hardware suggestions/experience

2003-06-17 Thread Adam Nelson
We recently bought a kick $%#%% machine for ~10k HP DL380 2x2.8GHz Xeon 1GB RAM 5 15k scsi drives (2 RAID 1 for OS and logs/3 RAID 5 for data) RedHat Linux Enterprise Edition 2.1 This machine easily handles 200 queries/sec and never gets a load average above 1.5. For your space requirements,