Re: IDL Generation and MediaWiki [Was Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements]

2011-07-05 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Clayton, > > I am separating into two sub-topics: > > (1) IDL Generation. > > Thanks for the link to what the Wiki uses to create a short hand for > various IDL links. This points out a very important topic that needs to be > co-ordinated. H

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Wolf Halton
I am going to do some research into *2odf in python. On Jul 5, 2011 11:57 PM, "Dave Fisher" wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: > >> As far as preparing literal books, it would help to know if the page content >> is stored as records in a database. That would make exporting

Re: Brazilian government and Apache OpenOffice.org / TDF's LibreOffice

2011-07-05 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Parabéns! ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Wolf Halton wrote: > As far as preparing literal books, it would help to know if the page content > is stored as records in a database. That would make exporting to the book > simpler, using sql to predesigned report templates. In my experience, almost > no web images

Re: svn commit: r1142819 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/people.mdtext

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Joe, I've made what I think is an appropriate edit to create an mdx_classtag.py. (1) Basically id was converted to classtag all over. (class is a reserved word.) (2) The appropriate # was changed to . in the regex (I hope) What would be my easiest strategy for testing it on my people.a.o acc

When Is a Committer a Committer for Real?

2011-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
For Initial Committers and Invited Committers, sending in your preferred Apache User Name does not make you a committer yet. That makes your ID Pending, but your committer status is not yet set up. An e-mail from r...@apache.org (sometimes a week later) will indicate when the Apache User Name

RE: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread Gavin McDonald
> -Original Message- > From: David McKay [mailto:dmc...@btconnect.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 6 July 2011 7:06 AM > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page > > OK, I'll sit tight. Thanks. As you are so eager to get going, I added yo

Re: Brazilian government and Apache OpenOffice.org / TDF's LibreOffice

2011-07-05 Thread Jomar Silva
Some numbers of the event on this year: - 6,914 participants, from 12 countries - 480 activities - 44 convoys - 161 people in the organizing committee, among ASL members, volunteers, hired consultancies and services. More can be found here - http://softwarelivre.org/fisl12/fisl12/noticias/clos

Re: Brazilian government and Apache OpenOffice.org / TDF's LibreOffice

2011-07-05 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jomar Silva wrote: > Hi all, > > Last week during the FISL (International Free Software Forum) in Porto > Alegre, the Brazilian Government's Free Software Implementation > Committee decided to contribute with developers to the projects Apache > OpenOffice.org and T

Brazilian government and Apache OpenOffice.org / TDF's LibreOffice

2011-07-05 Thread Jomar Silva
Hi all, Last week during the FISL (International Free Software Forum) in Porto Alegre, the Brazilian Government's Free Software Implementation Committee decided to contribute with developers to the projects Apache OpenOffice.org and TDF's LibreOffice. The official press release and the signed 'Le

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Wolf Halton
As far as preparing literal books, it would help to know if the page content is stored as records in a database. That would make exporting to the book simpler, using sql to predesigned report templates. In my experience, almost no web images are of high enough quality for inclusion in professionall

Updating Project Info web page?

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
This page here: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html Is this something that the Podling PMC should be updating? Or is this for the Mentors? Or is does anyone even look at this? There are some items that appear to be be done, but are not yet give dates. And the form sugges

Re: Undue Influence (was RE: Another introduction)

2011-07-05 Thread Wolf Halton
Thanks! I get it now. -W On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 00:31, Wolf Halton wrote: > > Dennis, > > > > I am a commiter but I still don't have my user/pass for svn or the GUI > > editing option, so I am one of the 13. I am apparently not aware of how >

Re: svn commit: r1142819 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/people.mdtext

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Dave Fisher > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Cc: ooo-comm...@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 4:57:36 PM > Subject: Re: svn commit: r1142819 - >/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/people.mdtext > > Hi Joe, > > Thanks for all th

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh

2011-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2011 10:48 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.07.2011 22:20, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 07/05/2011 09:33 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread David McKay
OK, I'll sit tight. Thanks. On 05/07/11 21:54, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:39 PM, David McKay wrote: And we're off to a flying start. Trying to use the online CMS to add my details to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html But when I check the Quick commit box an

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread David McKay
Yes, I'm a committer. I only just got my ID through, so perhaps I need to wait a little while for things to percolate throught he system. On 05/07/11 21:45, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 05.07.11 22:39, schrieb David McKay: And we're off to a flying start. Trying to use the online CMS to add my d

Re: svn commit: r1142819 - /incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/people.mdtext

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Joe, Thanks for all the CMS tips. I see from this commit that # {#foo} is inserted into the table header html as . Would # {.bar} add class="bar"? Also, thanks for pointing at the www.apache.org/dev and other examples. The view.pm we have in the project has a number of functions that are u

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:39 PM, David McKay wrote: > And we're off to a flying start. > > Trying to use the online CMS to add my details to > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html > > But when I check the Quick commit box and click submit I get the following > error: > > Commit f

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread Andy Brown
Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 22:39, schrieb David McKay: >> And we're off to a flying start. >> >> Trying to use the online CMS to add my details to >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html >> >> But when I check the Quick commit box and click submit I get the >> followin

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.07.2011 22:20, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/05/2011 09:33 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: >> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >>> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn >>> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a >>> look

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Mathias Bauer wrote: ... > > I doubt that this will complicate things too much. It > should be bearable. > > I'm interested to read the opinions of those who favored > the "get everything into svn at once" approach. > All the history is valuable to avoid redoing efforts. T

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 05.07.11 22:39, schrieb David McKay: And we're off to a flying start. Trying to use the online CMS to add my details to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html But when I check the Quick commit box and click submit I get the following error: Commit failed (details follow)::

Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread David McKay
And we're off to a flying start. Trying to use the online CMS to add my details to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html But when I check the Quick commit box and click submit I get the following error: Commit failed (details follow):: access to '/repos/asf/!svn/ver/1143076/

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2011 10:04 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a look into the

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh

2011-07-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/05/2011 09:33 PM, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a look into the conversion. In case anyone else is already at thi

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.07.2011 22:04, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> Moin, >> >> On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >>> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn >>> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and h

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Moin, > > On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: > >> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn >> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a >> look into the conversion. In case any

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
Moin, On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: > It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn > dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a > look into the conversion. In case anyone else is already at this, please > let me know. Having said

Re: Congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber)

2011-07-05 Thread Ian Lynch
On 5 July 2011 18:49, Rob Weir wrote: > We extend our congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber), who > was recently voted in as a Committer and PPMC-member for the project. > Jean was noted for her "diligence and participation" especially in the > area of user documentation. > > -The Apach

Re: IDL Generation and MediaWiki [Was Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements]

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Clayton, > > I am separating into two sub-topics: > > (1) IDL Generation. > > Thanks for the link to what the Wiki uses to create a short hand for various > IDL links. This points out a very important topic that needs to be > co-ordinated.

Re: Undue Influence (was RE: Another introduction)

2011-07-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 00:31, Wolf Halton wrote: > Dennis, > > I am a commiter but I still don't have my user/pass for svn or the GUI > editing option, so I am one of the 13.  I am apparently not aware of how to > signal my interest in being on the PPMC.  What is a TLA?  Why is it bad to > have it

IDL Generation and MediaWiki [Was Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements]

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Clayton, I am separating into two sub-topics: (1) IDL Generation. Thanks for the link to what the Wiki uses to create a short hand for various IDL links. This points out a very important topic that needs to be co-ordinated. How do those the IDL Pages get generated. This needs to be co-ordi

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 19:37, schrieb Dave Fisher: >> >> Mark Thomas is the person on the Apache Infrastructure group who stepped >> up as the contact when I asked infrastructure if they had an opinion in our >> first few days. >> >> Would someone remi

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 19:12, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher  wrote: >>> >>> Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: I'd like to help move this discussion forward.  I'm not perceiving any *strong* op

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: >> On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: >> >> Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 05.07.11 19:37, schrieb Dave Fisher: Mark Thomas is the person on the Apache Infrastructure group who stepped up as the contact when I asked infrastructure if they had an opinion in our first few days. Would someone remind us of the contacts on the current OOo bugzilla infrastructure. Are

Congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber)

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
We extend our congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber), who was recently voted in as a Committer and PPMC-member for the project. Jean was noted for her "diligence and participation" especially in the area of user documentation. -The Apache OpenOffice PPMC

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 05.07.11 19:12, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: I'd like to help move this discussion forward. I'm not perceiving any *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question. But I am hearing several suggest that

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Dave Fisher
Mark Thomas is the person on the Apache Infrastructure group who stepped up as the contact when I asked infrastructure if they had an opinion in our first few days. Would someone remind us of the contacts on the current OOo bugzilla infrastructure. Are these the same contacts to for the MediaWi

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > >> > >> > Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously >> > pruned.  For instance all the old Marketing materi

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: [..] And from the project perspective, I assume we want to migrate all issues, old, new, open closed, everything? And we must preserve IDs. Any other constraints? "Everything" must include the attachments. The attachments do not only contain a lot of documents and

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> I'd like to help move this discussion forward.  I'm not perceiving any >> *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question.  But I am >> hearing several suggest that JIRA is a better tracker (

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Rob Weir wrote: > ... > >> >> I'd like to explore the technical feasibility of migrating >> to JIRA. >> > > +1 > >> I see this page here describing the migration from JIRA's >> perspective: >> >> http://www.atlassian

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Raphael Bircher
Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: I'd like to help move this discussion forward. I'm not perceiving any *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question. But I am hearing several suggest that JIRA is a better tracker (custom dashboards in particular were called out). Bugzilla got some

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 7/5/11, Rob Weir wrote: ... > > I'd like to explore the technical feasibility of migrating > to JIRA. > +1 > I see this page here describing the migration from JIRA's > perspective: > > http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/tour/bugzilla-importer.jsp > > This appears to requir

Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
I'd like to help move this discussion forward. I'm not perceiving any *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question. But I am hearing several suggest that JIRA is a better tracker (custom dashboards in particular were called out). Bugzilla got some nods for the ease of migration and the

RE: Undue Influence (was RE: Another introduction)

2011-07-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My point, of course, was that having around 5% of the committers being TLAers would not constitute a controlling block lest we were the parliament of a seriously-fragmented democracy. I didn't consider mentors and our glorious champion in my calculus. Perhaps a more important point is that

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a look into the conversion. In case anyone else is already at this, please let me know. Regards, Mathias On 05.07.2011 17:58, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Apache

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread C
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 21:16, Dave Fisher wrote: > On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:16 AM, C wrote: >> - PDF and ODT export.  Confluence can do PDF, but cannot do ODT.. >> only MS Word DOC format (a significant issue in my view for an OOo >> Wiki... a bit sad and embarassing that we'd only be able to export

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
Apache is all about empowerment of volunteers. If people step up, progress will happen. If people don't, it won't. Part of Apache style leadership is the ability to induce people to volunteer, as well as to create discussion that leads to consensus. Both types of activities are vital at this p

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
I agree with Mathias .. We are not advancing simply because it's not clear who does what. - Greg made a script to import the Hg stuff ... who will run it? - Matthias made a list, is this what Oracle should relicense, or perhaps we should wait until we merge the resulting SVN branches. - Who takes

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-05 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello ... --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Drini Nosi wrote: ... > As I read this thread, it makes me a > bit sad to see that the community of the OpenSourceOffice is > actually splitting in two, and I don't understand why. > Corporate interests. Some linux distributions and developers were not happy with th

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Joe Schaefer
- Original Message > From: Mathias Bauer > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 10:55:25 AM > Subject: Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository) > > On 01.07.2011 23:18, Greg Stein wrote: > > > Right. I think we just bring it all over, and then

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 01.07.2011 23:18, Greg Stein wrote: > Right. I think we just bring it all over, and then sort it out in our > repository. May I ask who will be the one that "brings it all over"? I don't find the reference, but from past reading I understood that this is nothing that one of us "regular committe

Re: Undue Influence (was RE: Another introduction)

2011-07-05 Thread Shane Curcuru
In terms of the question raised about "corporate decisions that can affect the project", then I urge people to read the Apache Incubator guidelines on podling graduation: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community A major purpose of the Incubation process is to ensure that

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Graham Lauder
On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: > On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > > > Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously > > pruned. For instance all the old Marketing material that is V2.0 and > > earlier could be deleted. > > What w

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-05 Thread Raphael Bircher
Hi Drini Am 05.07.11 10:54, schrieb Drini Nosi: As I read this thread, it makes me a bit sad to see that the community of the OpenSourceOffice is actually splitting in two, and I don't understand why. The history of the split is realy complicate, and you will have two different storries as min

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 04.07.2011 17:27, Michael Stahl wrote: > On 04.07.2011 16:21, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> On 01.07.2011 22:58, Michael Stahl wrote: >> >>> i think i wrote that all CWSes as HG repos take ~100 GB, but actually i >>> now think i remembered wrong and the number was more like ~150 GB. >>> (i did this o

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 05.07.2011, Rob Weir wrote: Is the Hg ==> Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN? Yes. Having the CWSs in SVN would only increase the size of the repository considerably without providing benefits after they get merged. Speaking of merges in SVN we regularly had the prob

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-05 Thread Drini Nosi
As I read this thread, it makes me a bit sad to see that the community of the OpenSourceOffice is actually splitting in two, and I don't understand why. I am not a developer, just a user, so I don't understand the technicalities. I can understand the differences between the licenses and their me

Re: My introduction

2011-07-05 Thread Jian Fang Zhang
Ingrid, Glad to see you here, and many thanks for your help in the past time. Regards, Zhang Jianfang (张建芳) IBM China Software Development Laboratory, Beijing Tel: +86-10-82452789 ITN:69152789 Fax:+86-10-82451161, E-Mail:zhan...@cn.ibm.com