- Original Message -
From: Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
Hi Hagar,
[...]
I don't have the time to learn another system again (as some have
correctly
tricks.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:58
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
[ ... ]
You write documentation largely as a means of self-defense so people
will read
to go where there is still limitless mileage
in
the old tricks.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 10:58
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
[ ... ]
You
orcnote comment=below /
-Original Message-
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00
To: dennis.hamil...@acm.org; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
The thing is Dennis, it is self-defeating for the org
...@yahoo.com; ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Java download link on AOO site
orcnote comment=below /
-Original Message-
From: Joe Schaefer [mailto:joe_schae...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 12:00
To: dennis.hamil
@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
There is an interesting dialectic here between acting with enlightened
self-interest and being entirely selfish. All I have suggested throughout
this episode is that the project be egalitarian towards its website
]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 13:18
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
There is an interesting dialectic here between acting with enlightened
self-interest and being entirely selfish. All I have suggested throughout
in much of this though.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: Java download link on AOO site
I think the situation would
. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; 'Joe Schaefer' joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: Java download link on AOO site
I think the situation would have been different if the web site were
being
created from scratch
On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
wrote:
It has been noticed by a forum user
Le sam. 14 juil. 2012 01:25:55 CEST, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net a
écrit :
BTW - Kay has picked up what the real topic you brought here was, and this is
something that is much more for discussion than it is something to simply
change.
Yes, thanks, I had seen it but completely forgot to
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:13 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM,
On 2012-07-14 5:48 PM Kay Schenk wrote:
I think the above bug you cited is not a java 1.6 vs 1.7 issue, It's a
can't find java issue. I will do some more research tomorrow to see if
there is a really a java 1.6 vs java 1.7 issue. I do remember seeing
complaints about not being able to find
On 7/12/12 9:44 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 00:39:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a
écrit :
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out? Isn't
Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points
to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE):
http://java.com/en/download/**manual.jsphttp://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp).
We should
On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.netwrote:
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java points
to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE):
Hi Kay,
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:45:18AM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
ummm...two things on this...
-- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan.
and ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java
7 stating that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues
Am 13.07.2012 19:45, Kay Schenk wrote:
ummm...two things on this...
-- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and
ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating
that using java 7 didn't seem to cause issues
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.de wrote:
Java7 does not work at all with AOO under 64 bit Windows.
There are reports about popular extensions being incompatible with Java7.
What *version* of Java7?... that is the key remember when Java7
shipped there was a
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Andreas Säger ville...@t-online.dewrote:
Am 13.07.2012 19:45, Kay Schenk wrote:
ummm...two things on this...
-- there was quite a long discussion on Java 7 that started in Jan. and
ultimately resulted in this post on June 19 from Ariel re Java 7 stating
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
On Jul 13, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
wrote:
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java
points
to the
Le ven. 13 juil. 2012 07:01:58 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a
écrit :
The biggest problem with this project is the prevalence of people who
are unskilled in the codebase occupying all the oxygen on the dev list.
This list, unlike the forums, is about project development, and
Hi Hagar,
BTW - Kay has picked up what the real topic you brought here was, and this is
something that is much more for discussion than it is something to simply
change.
On Jul 13, 2012, at 3:54 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le ven. 13 juil. 2012 07:01:58 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 00:39:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a
écrit :
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out? Isn't
Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page
himself with the CMS?
JFDI Hagar. This does not need discussion unless you require
more
On 2012-07-12 1:06 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 00:39:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out?
apparently he also needs someone to lecture him!.
Wow, this is scary. I will never be a commiter if this includes
someone else bossing you around publicly on mailing
- Original Message -
From: Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
On 2012-07-12 1:06 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Hagar Delest
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Thanks for your findings. This should be indeed changed as long the Office
cannot handle the lastest and greatest JRE version.
I' m curious about this bug. I have OpenJDK 7 installed on my system
and I didn' t notice a
On 07/12/2012 09:18 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out?
apparently he also needs someone to lecture him!.
Wow, this is scary. I will never be a commiter if this includes
Am 12.07.2012 21:22, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Thanks for your findings. This should be indeed changed as long the Office
cannot handle the lastest and greatest JRE version.
I' m curious about this bug. I have OpenJDK 7
On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:04 PM, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 00:39:17 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a
écrit :
Why does Hagar need an agent to carry this out? Isn't
Hagar a committer and therefore can't he edit the page
himself with the CMS?
JFDI Hagar. This
, of course also a way to get it changed. Why not. ;-)
Marcus
- Original Message -
From: Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
Am 07/11/2012 11:22 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
Let's not consider his short messages encouraging people to be anything
negative. It is more like encouraging someone to dive into the pool for the
first time.
Sometimes, the tone makes all the difference. A ' please
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 21:19:50 CEST, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com a
écrit :
On 2012-07-12 1:06 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
1) No it's not a requirement that you be a committer to be on the PPMC.
Then it was for the Roller blog account I guess.
2) What sort of example do you hope to
Hagar Delest wrote:
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 21:19:50 CEST, Joe Schaefer
a écrit :
Hagar is a committer, that comes both with certain rights and certain
responsibilities, the latter of which is to not bother others with work
he can carry out effectively himself.
Don't tell me that since I'm a
, despite his attitude
towards it.
- Original Message -
From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
Hagar Delest wrote:
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 21:19:50 CEST, Joe
On 2012-07-12 3:48 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
Hello? Is this thing on? This project has a whopping
9GB website that all of maybe 5 people on the planet
know how to takecare of, and it is rife with stale
information inherited from a different past. The website
is a*community* resource and that
- this IS the apache way. We are not alone on a
project and yes, you can ask other people to help you.
Cheers,
- Original Message -
From: Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Christian Grobmeier
grobme...@gmail.com wrote:
Joe, your tone is extremely rude and insulting. You want people to
learn/change something? Nobody wants to hear it that way. You wrote it
is Anti-Apache to not use the CMS. I consider it Anti-Apache the way
you
- Original Message -
From: Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Hello
On 2012-07-12 11:01 PM Joe Schaefer wrote:
This list, unlike the forums, is about project development, and teaching
others to behave in productive ways by*demonstrating* the behavior
you want to see from others here.
Why don't you look in the bloody mirror. You are demonstrating how to be an
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
Joe, your tone is extremely rude and insulting. You want people to
learn/change something? Nobody wants to hear it that way. You wrote it
is Anti-Apache to not use the CMS. I consider it Anti-Apache the way
you write
Am 07/11/2012 11:22 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest:
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java
points to the 1.7 version (Get the most recent Java (JRE):
http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp ).
We should point to a 1.6 version to avoid problems with Java 1.7 and
AOO:
) marcus.m...@wtnet.de
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: Java download link on AOO site
Am 07/11/2012 11:22 PM, schrieb Hagar Delest:
It has been noticed by a forum user that the download link to Java
points to the 1.7 version (Get the most
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