On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:55:36PM -0700, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
Sven Luther:
That said, i was told there is not much userland CDDLed stuff to consider,
and
that basically we have only the OpenSolaris kernel, with a GNU userland to
consider, and this scenario doesn't include any problem
Shanon Loveridge wrote:
On 9/8/05, *Jim Grisanzio* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In general, as traffic increases on discuss -- no matter what the issue
happens to be -- people comment to me that they can't keep up, they
want to unsubscribe, and that the list
On 9/8/05, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm fine with leaving discuss as discuss because it has grown into a general conversation list. We can certainly change the name if that's
the issue to make it more clear, though. I'm also happy to be more assertive in pushing conversations to
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words: if you like milk, don't kill the cow
Unless the cow is sick and produce unusable sour milk or whatever, and there
is plenty of other sane ones :)
The more I read from you on this topic, the more I get the impression that
you don't
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sorry but it seems that you did not understand the problem at all.
Well, you could use wording which are quite agressive, as was already the case
in the GPL vs bSD discussion or in the Linux vs OpenSolaris post. I think you
are too deeply
Again moving to gnu-sol, please follow-up there.
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:19:06AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words: if you like milk, don't kill the cow
Unless the cow is sick and produce unusable sour milk or whatever, and there
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words: if you like milk, don't kill the cow
Unless the cow is sick and produce unusable sour milk or whatever, and
there
is plenty of other sane ones :)
The more I read from you on this topic, the more I get the impression
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 09:54:45AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words: if you like milk, don't kill the cow
Unless the cow is sick and produce unusable sour milk or whatever, and
there
is plenty of other sane ones :)
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My impression is that you are discrediting the Debian project by
repeating unproven claims of a single person that once did come up with
anti-social demands on Debian legal.
See my other email. And if you are curious, i think the latest thread
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg, we are sad to see you react in this way to this discussion -
after all that is what it is.
I am sorry, but this thread turned into a useless discussion that I am
trying to avoid.
We actually think Sven is making some very
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:21:14AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My impression is that you are discrediting the Debian project by
repeating unproven claims of a single person that once did come up with
anti-social demands on Debian legal.
See my
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You just proved that it's you who is uninformed
You constantly repeat this single text from Debian Legal, but you avoid
to do some research on the background.
This single text ? I gave you a link to a 100+ email thread with many
participants,
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, well, i propose we stop the hostilities, i investigate the issue, and see
what the debian ftp-masters have to say about it, and then will post my
conclusions. I hope then you will take them with an open mind :)
I hope you used the word hostilities by
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg, we are sad to see you react in this way to this discussion -
after all that is what it is.
We actually think Sven is making some very important points about how
developers feel about their contributions being used for different
He has two basic approaches:
- Telling people that you are not allowed to run GPLd software
on top of non-GPL operating systems or to ship both together
on a single medium.
If this was true, most operating systems (including all Linux
distributions I am aware
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:07:37PM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joerg, we are sad to see you react in this way to this discussion -
after all that is what it is.
We actually think Sven is making some very important points about
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:20:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He has two basic approaches:
-Telling people that you are not allowed to run GPLd software
on top of non-GPL operating systems or to ship both together
on a single medium.
If this was true, most
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me add another statement
You cannot leave it, can you ?
Aha you are again being personal?
He has two basic approaches:
- Telling people that you are not allowed to run GPLd software
on top of non-GPL operating systems or to ship
You cannot link GPLed software with GPL-incompatible system libraries, if you
distribute said software together with the system libraries. This has been
known for age, and Sun used to distribute gcc on a separate CD back then.
The exact quote from the GPL is (End of clause QPL 3) :
However,
Believe me, the GPL has been written many year ago, and a huge amount of
people have been involved with it since then and scrutinized it in every neat
details, and there are little doubt left about those issues.
Yet you seem to be very confused:
To direct you to the GPL FAQ for more detail :
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:20:44PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He has two basic approaches:
-Telling people that you are not allowed to run GPLd software
on top of non-GPL operating systems or to ship both together
on a single medium.
If this was true, most
On 9/7/05, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
Me three, from as far away as the exotic locale of Maryland!
What he said. Except my exotic locale is Kelowna!
I have the original OpenSolaris pilot program shirt ( the opensource
one ) and
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:56:13PM +0200, Felix Schulte wrote:
On 07 Sep 2005 14:45:49 +0200, Stefan Jankowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And then there's this gem:
http://unix.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.unix.solaris/2004-08/0828.html
That gem is old and was one of the arguments of
Sven Luther wrote:
Exactly because America is such a crazy place, i don't think an exeption is
possible, since nobody either from debian or the companies which provide us
bandwidth, hosting or hardware (and sun was among them, not sure if it still
is), or even individual users are ready to take
How quickly we forget...
Many parts of what we call the Berkeley Software Distribution was written
or maintained by people who were or became Sun employees, and much of what
was delivered in SunOS 3.x (and somewhat in 4.x) was contributed directly
back into the BSD4.1/4.2 sources. At that point
How quickly we forget...
Many parts of what we call the Berkeley Software Distribution was written
or maintained by people who were or became Sun employees, and much of what
was delivered in SunOS 3.x (and somewhat in 4.x) was contributed directly
back into the BSD4.1/4.2 sources. At that point
Ivan Wang wrote:
BTW, during my recent trip to Taiwan, I have heard
talks about Sun's new Galaxy (?) system. I
understand this is based on the Opteron chips. It
seems that Galaxy should attract a new wave of
interests in OpenSolaris/Solaris.
Yes, they are. Here's a link:
Note that the license of glibc is not the GPL. It is the LGPL.
Yep, indeed. But i guess the CDDL is also LGPL incompatible ?
I don't think so. The LGPL is compatible with almost all kinds
of provisions; that's what it was designed for.
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I wonder though what the FSF position is about those choice-of-venue
clauses,
which seem so controversial for debian.
We do not object to them.
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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Dennis Clarke wrote:
On 9/7/05, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
Me three, from as far away as the exotic locale of Maryland!
What he said. Except my exotic locale is Kelowna!
I have the original OpenSolaris pilot
Jim This is a common story but it can be used to argue two ways -- (1)
Jim that we should distribute the conversation more to better follow
Jim the technical issues, and (2) that the community is naturally
Jim migrating to discuss (probably for simplicity) and in the process
Jim is making the
That's great news, Sara. Thanks for all your
persistent work with the
fulfillment company to make those shirts *finally*
fly the coop!
I hope that everyone wears them in good health. :-)
Claire
For the two shirts I got, I think I have to thank Sara twice ;)
tj
This message posted
That's great news, Sara. Thanks for all your persistent
work with the
fulfillment company to make those shirts *finally* fly the coop!
I hope that everyone wears them in good health. :-)
Claire
For the two shirts I got, I think I have to thank Sara twice ;)
Just curious -
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I agree completely. A wiki is the next logical
step. I would be happy to help create and edit
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How about this one
On 9/7/05, Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, indeed. But i guess the CDDL is also LGPL incompatible ?
I don't see how, given that the LGPL is compatible to proprietary
non-(open source/free)-software. From what I see the LGPL is
compatible with just abou any license...
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Shawn Walker,
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