[osol-discuss] Re: sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Joe Little
I am responsible for asking Nexenta about the apparent lack of sgen. I was surprised that such a standard component wasn't included at this stage. At issue is that any tape changer management requires this driver. Either we need to have that a part of ON, or if not, make sure its allowable to

Re: [osol-discuss] sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't have sgen even in closed bins. Without it we can not manage SCSI tapes/changers. Any plans to include it in ON soon? I don't understand. Does this mean that the tape changer SW uses sgen instead of scg? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home)

Re: [osol-discuss] sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Joerg Schilling
James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A quick check of the copyright info on usr/closed/uts/common/io/scsi/targets/sgen.c reveals that another company developed the code. I don't know what the status of any negotiations are that may or may not have occurred about opening this file.

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Google Earth

2006-06-19 Thread UNIX admin
no, it's still the java programmers fault Truth be told, I don't care whose fault it is, all I know is that it's SLOW and that the language is complicated even for the simplest of things. Java is that great idea, implemented in the worst possible way. Why, I'd have a thing or two to say to

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: IPsec Tunnel Reform

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Thanks, Dan. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to get you set up. Eric On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Dan McDonald wrote: Hello OpenSolaris folks! I would like to open an OpenSolaris project - IPsec Tunnel Reform. Please read on if you'd like to learn more about the project. The IPsec

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: How many lines of code?

2006-06-19 Thread Ghee . Teo
It seems the GNOME community is a bit insane or have special lover of Python, we pulled in over 1.5 million LOC just for that little Deskbar applet [1]. This is MAD. (Okay, go on beat me up :) on this) Now, we have to support C, C++, Python, (and a bit of Java), of course that will change when

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: How many lines of code?

2006-06-19 Thread Laszlo (Laca) Peter
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 16:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems the GNOME community is a bit insane or have special lover of Python, we pulled in over 1.5 million LOC just for that little Deskbar applet [1]. We had Python in JDS before the deskbar applet, it's used by various build

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is the “community” in Solaris Express Community Release?

2006-06-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
James Dickens wrote: Firefox Firefox is already in there starting in last week's release of build 41, which due to the JDS refresh now has GNOME 2.14, Firefox 1.5, Thunderbird 1.5, and a whole bunch of other new stuff. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Harpster
Hop over to the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/install/;Installation and Packaging Community/a. Bart Smaalders and company are working on this. I'm sure they would value your input. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Google Earth

2006-06-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 05:44:18AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: no, it's still the java programmers fault Truth be told, I don't care whose fault it is, all I know is that it's SLOW and that the language is complicated even for the simplest of things. It's not a scripting language. Compared to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 09:47:21PM -0700, Hugh McIntyre wrote: Philip Brown wrote: While blastwave does it, I can't use blastwave as a part of some other solution. And that's the problem with all the package management systems - they're fine, as long as you use them in complete isolation.

Re: [osol-discuss] sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Bonnie Corwin
James C. McPherson wrote: Erast Benson wrote: We don't have sgen even in closed bins. Without it we can not manage SCSI tapes/changers. Any plans to include it in ON soon? Any roadmap on those bits? What was the reason for not including them in closed bins again? (sorry if this question were

[osol-discuss] Proposal to create the “Commun ity In Project”

2006-06-19 Thread James Dickens
This project started out because of this thread, http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=10137tstart=0 I was trying to add some community software to the Solaris Express Community release. Since the consensus was that it would be better if we added them to Nevada aka Solaris express

[osol-discuss] Re: sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Joe Little
To my knowledge, mtx and amanda (chg-zd-mtx changer facility, as well as chg-scsi) use sgen on solaris. http://www.amanda.org/docs/tapechangers.html This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Harpster
What you're proposing is the Companion CD. Check out the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/companion/;Companion Project/a. You can add the stuff you want there where it will automatically show up in Solaris Express. This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] sgen and other no_source stuff

2006-06-19 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 11:14 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: Erast Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't have sgen even in closed bins. Without it we can not manage SCSI tapes/changers. Any plans to include it in ON soon? I don't understand. Does this mean that the tape changer SW uses

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the “Commun ity In Project”

2006-06-19 Thread Mike Sullivan
Stephen Harpster wrote: What you're proposing is the Companion CD. Check out the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/companion/;Companion Project/a. You can add the stuff you want there where it will automatically show up in Solaris Express. The companion CD isn't part of Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the “Commun ity In Project”

2006-06-19 Thread James Dickens
On 6/19/06, Stephen Harpster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you're proposing is the Companion CD. Check out the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/companion/;Companion Project/a. You can add the stuff you want there where it will automatically show up in Solaris Express. not

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the “Commun ity In Project”

2006-06-19 Thread Stephen Lau
James Dickens wrote: On 6/19/06, Stephen Harpster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you're proposing is the Companion CD. Check out the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/companion/;Companion Project/a. You can add the stuff you want there where it will automatically show up in Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the “Community In Project”

2006-06-19 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 6/19/06, James Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/19/06, Stephen Harpster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you're proposing is the Companion CD. Check out the a href=http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/companion/;Companion Project/a. You can add the stuff you want there where it will

Re: [osol-discuss] Commets on build 41

2006-06-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Friday 16 June 2006 11:09 pm, Ian Collins wrote: I guess I should follow the install list to see where we are with live upgrade and ZFS and Zones. Ian, I see quite a few folks provided you the info that this is a bug. Nobody mentioned the workaround. before you lucreate, issue this: #

Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 17 June 2006 05:12 am, Dick Davies wrote: On 17/06/06, Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Postgres has been added into Solaris/OpenSolaris, which some folks are not aware of yet. It is now included in both Solaris and OpenSolaris. You can download the latest Solaris Express

Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-19 Thread Dick Davies
On 19/06/06, Josh Berkus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, Dick, Josh, can you give a status on SMF manifests and/or if they're not in now, when they'll be going in? We're still working out some technical issues with the SMF manifests. It's possible that you'll need to download them as an

Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-19 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 19 June 2006 01:34 pm, Josh Berkus wrote: Alan, Dick, Josh, can you give a status on SMF manifests and/or if they're not in now, when they'll be going in? We're still working out some technical issues with the SMF manifests. It's possible that you'll need to download them as an

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the ~SCommun ity In Project~T

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Stephen Lau wrote: ... The companion CD certainly doesn't *NEED* to be political... Can we put this in a flashing banner on the top of Companion CD homepage? ;-) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the ~SCommun ity In Project~T

2006-06-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Eric Boutilier wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Stephen Lau wrote: ... The companion CD certainly doesn't *NEED* to be political... Can we put this in a flashing banner on the top of Companion CD homepage? ;-) Well now that there's a homepage people can see for it... (I didn't actually realize

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to create the ~SCommun ity In Project~T

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Stephen Lau wrote: ... The companion CD certainly doesn't *NEED* to be political... Can we put this in a flashing banner on the top of Companion CD homepage? ;-) Well now that there's a homepage people

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Peter Tribble
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 22:55, David J. Orman wrote: Exampe, Ubuntu (as noted in my comment): apt-get install apache2 OK, I've not used apt-get so I'll ask a few questions: - can I request a specific version? - can I control the installed location? - can I install multiple copies of the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 23:46 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 22:55, David J. Orman wrote: Exampe, Ubuntu (as noted in my comment): apt-get install apache2 OK, I've not used apt-get so I'll ask a few questions: - can I request a specific version? yes - can I

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris: How many lines of code?

2006-06-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Jim Grisanzio wrote: When we released OpenSolaris last year it represented about 10 million lines of code. But since then, we've released code sixteen times (save the binary releases). Does anyone know what these releases represent in terms of lines of code? * X Window System Consolidation:

[osol-discuss] rant-on

2006-06-19 Thread Eric Boutilier
Here's something to try for fun: After a long thread on opensolaris-discuss finally peters out, sort it by sender and count how many people from the project in question participated. Usually very few -- even none. So what the heck is this mysterious allure of starting threads on

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread William D. Hathaway
One thing I'd like to see in Blastwave standards is the separation of bin/lib from config/data. While I was a massive fan of CSW on Solaris 9, when trying to build S10+ machines with large numbers of zones, it seemed I like I either needed to make /opt/csw local on each zone, or do lots of

Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-19 Thread Josh Berkus
Alan, Dick, Josh, can you give a status on SMF manifests and/or if they're not in now, when they'll be going in? We're still working out some technical issues with the SMF manifests. It's possible that you'll need to download them as an update from the sun website -- hopefully by next week.

Re: [osol-discuss] SVOSUG - Postgres Solaris/OpenSolaris - Thurs. June 22nd 7:30pm SCA03

2006-06-19 Thread Josh Berkus
Folks, BTW, the South Bay PostgreSQL Users' Group is going to show up for this meeting. So I hope you don't mind seeing a dozen or so PostgreSQL folks. -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Lead Sun Microsystems San Francisco 01-415-752-2500 ___

Re: [osol-discuss] rant-on

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
Here's something to try for fun: After a long thread on opensolaris-discuss finally peters out, sort it by sender and count how many people from the project in question participated. Usually very few -- even none. So what the heck is this mysterious allure of starting threads on

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Philip Brown
On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 04:47:20PM -0700, William D. Hathaway wrote: One thing I'd like to see in Blastwave standards is the separation of bin/lib from config/data. While I was a massive fan of CSW on Solaris 9, when trying to build S10+ machines with large numbers of zones, it seemed I like

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: revisiting software issues

2006-06-19 Thread Erast Benson
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 17:45 -0700, Philip Brown wrote: On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 04:00:28PM -0700, Erast Benson wrote: On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 23:46 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote: - can I request a specific version? yes Thats not exactly true. Only if the archive happens to keep old

[osol-discuss] four time loser trying to build ON

2006-06-19 Thread Dennis Clarke
Its a sad story and I am really starting to yank some hair out. Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.11 snv_38 October 2007 You have new mail. $ $ mail -h 4 letters found in /var/mail//dclarke, 0 scheduled for deletion, 0 newly arrived 4 647069 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 16 22:32:45

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun ce port GLDV3 Drivers

2006-06-19 Thread Cathy Zhou
Steven Sim wrote: Hello; I have pushed for the usage of dladm for link aggregation (trunking) at my customer's site only to have egg on my face when I discovered the only network port with GLDV3 interface (necessary for link aggregation) is bge. The ce port is extensively used. May I know

Re: [osol-discuss] VMware's rock around the clock...

2006-06-19 Thread Roland Mainz
Roland Mainz wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: On 3/7/06, Andy Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/6/06, Roland Mainz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm hitting some problems with Solaris guest installations in VMware (e.g. Solaris being the guest in a VMware VM): Sometimes the clock is

[osol-discuss] Gaim busted?

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Teer
OK, here's a weird one. For the longest time, gaim on Nevada worked fine for me. Then, sometime around build 28, it stopped working, and it couldn't find any plugins (so the Protocol field on the account dialogue was blank)--I think this concided with the switch from version 0.9x to 1.x. I

[osol-discuss] Re: Commets on build 41

2006-06-19 Thread Justin Conover
Example of what i do with zfs/lu mount -p | fgrep zfs | cut -f3 -d' ' /tmp/excludeList lucreate -m /:/dev/dsk/c0d0s0:ufs -n snv_38 -c snv_36 -f /tmp/excludeList Few people in the zfs list showed me that. This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] onv_41 SPARC vs x86

2006-06-19 Thread Rich Teer
Interesting difference between SPARC and x86 with build 41: x86 has the Realplayer plgin installed into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins but SPARC doesn't. Conversely, the required files are installed in /usr/sfw/lib/mozilla/plugins on SPARC, but not on x86. Finger trouble when creating the pkginfo