Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] SchilliX-0.7.0 ready for testing

2010-07-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/7/24 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Joerg Schilling wrote: C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org wrote: Did you pull the libc work from Garrett and drop that on there? No, I just created a halfway clean base for starting with the emancipation work. Which compiler did you use to

Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

2010-05-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430tstart=15 As Dennis said, We are in a situation after some five years of the OpenSolaris community where one can not simply download sources and build

Re: [osol-discuss] An effort to rally around - building a real, community driven distro...

2010-05-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: Re: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=129430tstart=15 As Dennis said, We are in a situation after some five years

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun's libm availability

2010-05-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Stathis Kamperis ekamp...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings everyone, I've tried to spot the libm code in onnv-gate, but I failed. Does the Sun's libm fall into the binary/closed bits ? (Yes, I'm aware of the fdlibm but that is outdated and I have reasons to believe

[osol-discuss] Apologies to all: I fell in Mr. Dave Johnson's trap twice __/__ Re: Slap the troll... / was: Re: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
*** Apologies to all *** ... that I fell in Mr. Dave Johnson's traps twice. Recently I didn't have much time for OpenSolaris. I did not back-check Dave Johnson's claims sufficiently enough. Sorry! %martin bochnig On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Roland Mainz roland.ma...@nrubsig.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Apologies to all: I fell in Mr. Dave Johnson's trap twice __/__ Re: Slap the troll... / was: Re: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:02 PM, Roland Mainz roland.ma...@nrubsig.org wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Dave Johnson dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] Bye, Roland P.S.: Wearing my hat as ksh93-integration project lead: No, neither the ksh93-integration project nor

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: John Sonnenschein wrote: You are forging emails for your own political gains and I'm going to have to ask you to stop slandering me and my work *immediately*. It is completely unacceptable behaviour. Given

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
No need to wait that long. If there is a call for a vote on the matter you have my public input for a formal ban under the terms of the TOU now. If there are some procedural details we can sort that out as required. Quick question -- will a ban do any good?  Is there anyway to verify that

Re: [osol-discuss] Garrett D'Amore joins Nexenta. if needed, can nexenta become the fork?

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: I was wondering with  D'Amore jumping over to Nexenta. if the time comes  to take  drastic measures,  if they are willing and have the resources, can something  be organized with nexenta to become the fork? Troll.

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM, John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Dave Johnson dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com wrote: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene? While I have not been following this soap opera in

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB intervene?

2010-05-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: On 05-10-10, John Plocher john.ploc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Dave Johnson dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com wrote: This is how Oracle treats open communities and projects. Will OGB

Re: [osol-discuss] Someone please tell me I'm wrong

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: Can I have whatever you're having? =] Yeah, what he's saying sounds a lot like an article I read years ago: http://books.google.com/books?id=ASoDMBAJpg=PA60#v=onepageqf=false Maybe that article kept me from

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] Oracle forces Opera.com out of Solaris (was: Opera drops browser support for Solaris)

2010-04-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Dave Johnson dave.johnson.inqu...@googlemail.com wrote: Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: Since Opera is fast and leaks memory less than Firefox, this stinks. Has anyone ported Chromium (the open source of Chrome) to Solaris? That wouldn't do all

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris build 134a has closed

2010-04-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote: Those of us feeling left in the dark might be pleased to know that build 134a, the first candidate for the next stable release of OpenSolaris, has been tagged in Oracle's release branch (in project jargon: snv_134a, the

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] URGENT: Kernel lets 32bit process consume 4G memory?

2010-04-24 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Yves Huang yves.huang.proje...@googlemail.com pmap: cannot examine 5608: address space is changing and get a closer look, try stopping the process first: pstop 5608 and then running pmap or whatever to inspect it, and finally running prun 5608 to let it

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle charging for ODF plugin

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:04 AM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: On 22/04/2010 11:11, Svein Skogen wrote: On 22.04.2010 02:27, Alan Hargreaves wrote: You miss the point. This is a discussion list about OpenSolaris. Not about a Microsoft Office Plugins. Not about Solaris. Not

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Paul Armstrong opensola...@otoh.org wrote: You're right. My memory was that he'd resigned and I only found news articles saying as much (and until I corrected it, the Wikipedia article also stated he'd resigned; unfortunately I can't fix the news articles

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/21 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: You (Martin Bochnig) wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected news sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Alexander Eremin ere...@milax.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 09:44 +0200, Matthias Pfützner wrote: You (Stephen Bunn) wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com wrote: So, folks, again, GET USED TO the new communication, and DO NEVER EVER draw WRONG conclusions! It's so easy! Normally I would agree, but I know for a fact that this lack of communication about a way forward with Sun

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Alexander Eremin ere...@milax.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 15:28 +0300, Martin Bochnig wrote: Hello. What? You prefer the head_into_the_sand-approach??? If +1 in that manner, then the same as response: Do you get it or don´t you Oracle´s DB

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: Fully agree that many variables changed since Oracle got Sun. As I posted on solarisx86 yahoo mailing list we need to wait a bit longer for all these things to be cleared but as well Oracle should commit and dont

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: But this will take some time. FQ4' 2018 would be a good quarter for a first announcement and (maybe) meeting. What do you folks think

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-21 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Bayard Bell buffer.g.overf...@googlemail.com wrote: Martin, This is a fundamental misstatement of Oracle's position as a software vendor prior to acquiring Sun. Oracle faces considerable competition from sources such as MS SQL Server and DB2. It has nothing

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected news sites are  actually in a way  wishing  the demise of opensolaris.  almost every article written on opensolaris nowadays are about how  

Re: [osol-discuss] articles about opensolaris demise becoming annoying

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Stephen Bunn scb...@sbunn.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Edward Martinez mindbende...@live.com wrote: it appears  the  so called writers,reporters  from many well respected

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:25 AM, Paul Armstrong opensola...@otoh.org wrote: Except that Simon resigned. It was his decision not Oracle's. Who says that? Who or what are your sources?? If I recall correctly, he told the opposite:

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
contributions. So why shall I publish them? I only do so, if you guys intend to use my libpciaccess fixes plus SPARC gfx Xorg patches. Then alone and only. Therefore not. %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: For the benefit of everyone else who might want to use them? (Unless you believe they're less deserving than Sun, of course.) sure. But this is my position: If Sun doesnt want them (upstream into ON), Err

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-15 Thread Martin Bochnig
Answer: TOO high. %mab On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Peter Jones bloosk...@netscape.net wrote: I am interested in very clear terms what the pros and cons of a FORK is from a technical point of view? Support for a successful operating system is very roughly composed of the following

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
then keep all src for themselves and only release binaries, if they release their own updates at all in any form. -- %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] snv_137 bfu

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
this from you. And I have better things to do. Maybe the other readers think about my statements, and maybe they do or do not agree. But my duty as OpenSolaris enthusiast, lover, contributor and community member has been done at this point (regarding this discussion thread). Good day! %martin

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 04/13/10 05:39 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:  www.namecheap.com just takes a while, until it loads. But the statements relating to www.zoll.de are still valid. For over 3 weeks I tried to load that site several times per

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, George Koutras koutra...@yahoo.com wrote: I start shivering to the idea that oracle might drop opensolaris or keep developing only the Openstorage required portions of it, and adding to that the sudden silence in indiana-discuss from @oracle.com @sun.com

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls off the release branch that should

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
diffs. %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@oracle.com wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: So, when and who might be the first step/person to make this happen to protect what has been done so far? What would your fork do differently than the main project, besides have almost no

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [laptop-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Jennifer Pioch piochjenni...@googlemail.com: 2010/4/14 C. Bergström codest...@osunix.org: Jennifer Pioch wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Chad Welsh unixphr...@mac.com wrote: Well we have heard from one of the OGB members about forking this project to save it from the

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
withdrawal symptoms.  They need their Opensolaris. Sounds like you are experienced ;-) %martin bochnig Unfortunately, I don't know when new builds will be able to be published in the pkg repo again, but the sources continue to be made available if someone else wanted to build them

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 01:11 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote: How can it appear to be ^frozen^? Then maybe you are not subscribed to the right lists. Appears and actual are two different things.  What I mean by appears is nothing has

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Paul Gress pgr...@optonline.net wrote: On 04/14/10 01:34 PM, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: Sounds like you are experienced     ;-) Personal attacks rarely will help you make your point so please stop it. I didn't take is as a personal attack, I saw the smiley

[osol-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue or indicator, what Oracle plans for the future: Maybe the name 2009.06 stays the current release for a few more weeks. Whatever. It does not matter, because this

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: They need their Opensolaris. THEIR? Who owns that distribution? And: if it's their's, they should be building it themselfes... Really, it seems, you do know what a community is, and how open source works... Matthias You

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
for clarifying. %martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org An: matth...@pfuetzner.de Cc: pgr...@optonline.net, opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Gesendet: 14.4.'10,  20:30 2010/4/14 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: They need

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic...@oracle.com wrote: FYI - Oracle is no longer offering a free OpenSolaris CD shipping program at this time. As a result, we have removed all links and

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
more people, and not just their own pockets, then they are doomed to end, where Sun has. Bitter-cold world. On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
). Not based on any contributions. How can this have been sustainable? priveti, %martin Derek/Valerie: Is it feasible to set up a similar program for Opensolaris to reward those who significantly contributed to Opensolaris? Olga On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Martin Bochnig mar

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: On 14/04/2010 20:48, Andras Barna wrote: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ And, ironically: http://www.labnol.org/software/download/order-free-linux-dvd-kits-oracle-shipping-worldwide/3454/ Cheeri, Calum. Ohh

Re: [osol-discuss] [website-discuss] Free OpenSolaris CD no longer offered

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:41:19 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Derek Cicero derek.cic

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Fwd: [pkg-discuss] [REVIEW] backport-2009.06 fix for 11833

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Albert Lee tr...@opensolaris.org wrote: On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 21:13:32 +0300, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Hello, I decided to forward this message, as most people seem to ignore the coding related lists. Maybe the subject gives a first clue

Re: [osol-discuss] So when are we gonna fork this sucker?

2010-04-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 04/15/10 04:19 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Chad Welsh wrote: Well maybe this distro will communicate with its people besides the ones inside the company about the status of its latest release since you cut the balls

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
I can confirm, that there must be a bug in recent builds. It is not DNS related and the client (in your case browser) does not matter. Have the same timeouts with wget. Try to load www.zoll.de !! It works on all my Solaris SPARC boxes, but not at all on x86 OS2010.02_preview snv_131. This is

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: I can confirm, that there must be a bug in recent builds. It is not DNS related and the client (in your case browser) does not matter. Have the same timeouts with wget. Try to load www.zoll.de !! It works on all my

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:05 AM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote: SXCE build 130 which is the last build produced has all that I want as far as software like Bluefish.  I've tried to compile Bluefish on OpenSolaris b134 but received errors, so I thought of SXCE and installed. There is one

Re: [osol-discuss] Firefox 3.5.5 with SXCE can't load page

2010-04-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote: On 04/13/10 05:39 PM, Martin Bochnig wrote:  www.namecheap.com just takes a while, until it loads. But the statements relating to www.zoll.de are still valid. For over 3 weeks I tried to load that site several times per

Re: [osol-discuss] Gosling resigns from Oracle

2010-04-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
It is sad. A shock!!! Good night! :( mab On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Chris Pickett pkch...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Michael Lee mle...@gmail.com wrote: Gosling resigns from Oracle. http://www.taranfx.com/father-of-java-resigns. I would have

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand millions!!!). Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated markets - instead of selling something - they bought! Obviously the paid way overpriced

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
immediately. 2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand millions!!!). Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated markets

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: I agree with that summary of real events and facts. Hence I decided to post everything inline: http://www.michaeldolan.com/1102 Thursday, February 14th, 2008 “I told you so” in order? Roy Fielding resigns from OpenSolaris http

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand millions!!!). Every time the behaved like kids: At hopelessly overheated markets - instead

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 James Mansion ja...@mansionfamily.plus.com: Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) wrote: Solaris code for marketing purposes, rather than creating an independent, community-led, open source project with the ability to make real decisions. I think you're missing the point.  What

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: 2010/4/5 Мартин Бохниг   (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: James: For 3 pretty ROI-worthless aquisitions alone (Cobalt, STK and MySQL) Sun's top-management spent 10 Billion USD (ten thousand millions!!!). Every time the behaved

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Volker A. Brandt v...@bb-c.de wrote: Hello HeCSa! I (we) sent emails to the assigned Oracle employee to deal with the communities, but didn't receive an answer in more than a month, or maybe more time. Have you tried emailing Jimm Grisanzio, or someone from

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Simon Phipps webm...@opensolaris.org wrote: It's been an interesting does he take sugar experience watching the conversation about me; I thought I'd interject with a link to a story that has correct information:

Re: [osol-discuss] Any news about 2010.3?

2010-04-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
to back their (few) pro-OpenSolaris words with good action. Then we know more. %martin You (?? ??   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote: 2010/4/4 Matthias Pfützner matth...@pfuetzner.de: You (?? ??   (Martin Bochnig)) wrote: Did you notice? Their first move after the takeover

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-03 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Charles Hedrick hedr...@rutgers.edu wrote: I understand that this is largely FUD. But can someone confirm that there is a copy of all of the  open-source code someplace not under Oracle control? At this point the only precaution I'd take is to make sure that

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
, it is exactly as free like that WITHOUT A polemic branch-off ^actionism^ . Because until now the biggest sponsor and contributor of all times has been Sun. How do them intend to write as much code, as Sun/Oracle did and still does? There were a few glitches, agreed. But otherwise it is like it is. %martin

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Matthew Nawrocki matthew.nawro...@gmail.com wrote: Once again, the FUD machine caused someone to become crippled. Well these kinds of fellas are a dime a dozen anymore. Matt ??? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/4/1 Matthew Nawrocki matthew.nawro...@gmail.com: What I mean't by this statement is that person can't see the forest through the trees and is blinded by the FUD. Make sense? Matt Ok, now _yes_ . %martin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] Save OpenSolaris (according to Katonda)

2010-04-01 Thread Martin Bochnig
Forgive me all my spelling errors. Message written from Laptop. Need a break ... %mab ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-22 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:08 AM, casper@sun.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:34:15PM +0100, casper@sun.com wrote: Thanks for that explanation of why there is no failsafe boot option for OpenSolaris. I had wond ere d about that, since I'd seen it in Solaris Nevada/Express.

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-20 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Ron Mexico ronmex...@mailinator.com wrote: update-archive -R /mnt/foo I assume you mean: bootadm update-archive -R /mnt/foo ? I did that, and it said missing /boot/grub on root /mnt/rpool Bingo! And that is the reason why I had written: (Im not sure right

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Ron Mexico ronmex...@mailinator.com wrote: I have a storage server running on snv_129. When trying to reboot my server it was stuck in the perpetual loop of the happy face boot screen. After trying to boot in single-user mode, I got this error message:

Re: [osol-discuss] Cannot boot after power failure...

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Bochnig
2010/3/20 Мартин Бохниг (Martin Bochnig) mar...@martux.org: #2) update-archive -R /mnt/foo  rpool Errm, of course this cmd line without rpool ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Problem with tun driver

2010-03-11 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Antoine Benkemoun antoine.benkem...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your help. Recompiling the driver from source fixed the problem. Antoine Hello, next time you come into such trouble it should be enough, if you: # update_drv -v tun (then hopefully it

[osol-discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Moinak Ghosh for OGB 10/11 election (!!!OpenSolaris distro from SUN owes it’s origin to BeleniX.!!!)

2010-02-28 Thread Martin Bochnig
I dislike and hate injustice. Therefore I bring this into memory once again: -- Forwarded message -- From: Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org Date: Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:06 AM Subject: Nomination of Moinak Ghosh for OGB 10/11 election (!!!OpenSolaris distro from SUN owes it’s

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
to help and got burned for it (in 2007). -- Your Choice -- And worse for you: Customers also choose. %martin bochnig Old page was: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+conary-eval (most things seem to have been deleted after website migration) On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:17 PM

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM, casper@sun.com wrote: well the whole install took 2 hours for 1 pkg !! it seems that disk read/write here is the bottleneck (?). iostat -D 2 shows my hd busy at around 100% iosnoop reports a lot of access by pkg : How much memory?  It is possible that

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bruno Damour br...@ruomad.net wrote: Ok I have ONLY 1G mem, not much nowadays but anyway. This laptop has been tested on different systems, first of all it runs WinXP (at work) but I have also run gentoo (from stage 1 !, all self-compiled) and I never felt it

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Jürgen Keil jrgn.k...@googlemail.com wrote: I ran pkg install with truss, in the hope of discovering why it takes so long to complete, especially AFTER it has reported that every thing is installed. You are running a fresh install of b133, correct? Has pkg

Re: [osol-discuss] very long wait in the end of pkg install

2010-02-27 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Shawn Walker swal...@opensolaris.org wrote: On 02/27/10 05:54 AM, casper@sun.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:48 PM,casper@sun.com  wrote: well the whole install took 2 hours for 1 pkg !! it seems that disk read/write here is the bottleneck (?).

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris.org says Invalid account state: Inactive. ?

2010-02-10 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Dennis Clarke dcla...@blastwave.org wrote: I am wondering if there was a large change in the SSO/signon pages at OS.org given that my account seems to be marked inactive.  I think I have had an account since the first day of the pilot. Hi Dennis, I had the

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Uros Nedic ur...@live.com wrote:   Does Google have a focus? They are going pretty well.   If you are on the market you have to diversify your product portfolio to be able to minimize risk, and hope that one technology will bring revenues to cover all possible

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Edward Ned Harvey sola...@nedharvey.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn  *TRAITOR*. ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign from Sun. Go

Re: [osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-26 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Edward Ned Harvey sola...@nedharvey.com wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn  *TRAITOR*. ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign from Sun. Go

[osol-discuss] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/

2010-01-25 Thread Martin Bochnig
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/22/sun_schwartz_signoff/ I always knew (after 2006 at least) that JS is a God-damn *TRAITOR*. Many were blended by his fluff. But now you have it black on white, on Video, on Audio-tape. ¨Upon change in control, every employee needs to emotionally resign

Re: [osol-discuss] libpciaccess problem (sparc)

2009-12-31 Thread Martin Bochnig
)))_.:*~*:._.:*~*:. .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. Cheers, %martin On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:48 PM, jf simon j...@themis.com wrote: hi As already reported by Martin Bochnig a while back, i too am having problem with libpciaccess on Sparc. it seems that when the code

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b129: can't boot from SATA

2009-12-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
hi, is SUNWefc (or equivalent) installed? rgds. %mab On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jf simon j...@themis.com wrote: hi i have installed opensolaris sxce b129 on my system (ultraSparc T2). the install from DVD to sata disk went well. but upon reboot from the SATA disk,  i get the

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE b129: can't boot from SATA

2009-12-29 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: hi, is SUNWefc (or equivalent) installed? Or SUNWckr? One or both of those packages seem to be missing on your config. rgds. %mab On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, jf simon j...@themis.com wrote: hi i have

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Martin Bochnig wrote: If Alan tells me what he can open src (in his spare time, as soon as he might have some), I released the source to Xsun's /usr/openwin/server/lib/libserverdga.so.1 this week, it's just

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
all this. Best regards, %martin bochnig On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: ken mays wrote: We can easily use the newer XVR boards like the XVR-300 to replace many older PCI-E boards and the XVR-2500 board for others. The PCI boards can

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
Err, for the record: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Martin Bochnig mar...@martux.org wrote: Our old dream of a Xsun vs. Xorg ddx module bridge died the moment, when Alan once shared some information with us, back in fall 2007. Plus when he gave us sunInit.c (or how the file was called

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-13 Thread Martin Bochnig
, as part of the project proposed last week. -- %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, leg

2009-11-12 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:34 AM, ken mays maybird1...@yahoo.com wrote: As for the future, we have already spoke of running XSun legacy drivers in Xorg space. Also, porting working accelerated drivers to OpenSolaris. So, we don't need the full XSun, CDE, OpenWin consolidations on SPARC for

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
. = *XSun emancipation***Project = Name *XSun emancipation* alias: *xsun*-disc...@os.o Synopsis A project to emancipate the XSun sources and write wrappers to use XSun based drivers on Xorg. Sponsor ON CG Core Contributors Martin Bochnig Ken Mays Alan Coopersmith Description

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Coopersmith-           alan.coopersm...@sun.com         Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering Alan, whatever, doesn't matter to me. But please let us form this wonderful open-Xsun project))) -- %martin bochnig ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Mauro M. m...@ezplanet.net wrote: = *XSun emancipation***Project = Name *XSun emancipation* Thank you Mark for doing this. Only I would suggest Open Xsun for the project name. Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is about freeing

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Mauro M. m...@ezplanet.net wrote: Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is about freeing people from oppression and slavery, Xsun is a software component, not a person and it isn't really oppressed. Firstly, the term emancipation hits the nail on

Re: [osol-discuss] XSun emancipation project proposal (Was: Re: [xwin-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards)

2009-11-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Mark Martin storycraf...@gmail.com wrote: Mauro M. wrote: Emancipation sounds inappropriate as its meaning is about freeing people from oppression and slavery, Xsun is a software component, not a person and it isn't really oppressed. Firstly, the term

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun UltraSparc: XVR-500, Expert 3D, legacy graphic cards

2009-11-04 Thread Martin Bochnig
OBP *is* open src since 2007. And there have always been guides and books describing how to write fcode drivers. One I know costs 60$ and includes many sample fcode / forth sample drivers, including basic graphics. if you are that expert who will write us all this fancy stuff, then you can

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