Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread James Gardner
Joe: I'm in Panama City Beach, Florida. Probably nowhere near you. But if you know how to make the adapter work, I'll be your eyes and hands if you'll be the brain. I'm not a novice. I'm just thoroughly stumped. Regards, James -Original Message- From: Joe Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 22 December 2007 14:40, Joe Sloan wrote: James Gardner wrote: ... All I ask is that you really know what you are doing, and not just make blind stabs at it from reading internet forums. I have read them all and tried them all. So I need some expert help. Where are you

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
James Gardner wrote: I have a Toshiba p205d-s7454 laptop with a built in atheros wireless card. The chipset is 5006. I have tried SUSE, Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu, and no distribution configures the card. I have tried madwifi and ndiswrapper. Neither works for me. I need wireless, or the

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread James Knott
Aaron Kulkis wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: You need to look up the definition of idiot. Nobody can know everything True. We're using it in the colloquial sense, that being, People who know far less than what the can REASONABLY be expected to know. Most computer users' behavior is

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote: ... I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters who don't know how to use a

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:29:33 am Aaron Kulkis wrote: BTW, this discussion fits offtopic list, so I crossposted there and expect any answers there. Because they *REFUSE* to learn even basic principles of effective computer USE and self-protection (the equivalent of don't drive

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 22 December 2007 14:49, Randall R Schulz wrote: ... Where are you located? Atlanta. Joe And you're in LA. RRS -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

suse10.[23] beagle indexing automatically uses ionice if installed (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Linda Walsh
Aaron Kulkis wrote: ah... ionice seems to be a new invention. I'll give it a try when I build a new system this month. --- I just checked suse10.2 packages... If you have the ionice program (/usr/bin/ionice) installed under SuSE-10.3 OR -10.2, daily beagle indexing will

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread James Knott
Randall R Schulz wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote: ... I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll point them out here, in case anyone else is in the same

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread James Knott
Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:14:20 pm James Knott wrote: I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters who

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Steve Reilly
James Gardner wrote: I have a Toshiba p205d-s7454 laptop with a built in atheros wireless card. The chipset is 5006. I have tried SUSE, Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu, and no distribution configures the card. I have tried madwifi and ndiswrapper. Neither works for me. I need wireless, or

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:53, James Knott wrote: Randall R Schulz wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote: ... I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:14:20 pm James Knott wrote: I have to agree.  I have provided software support at IBM and have found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to use their computer properly.  You don't find many carpenters who don't know how to use a

Re: suse10.[23] beagle indexing automatically uses ionice if installed (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Patrick Shanahan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Linda Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-22-07 18:18]: I just checked suse10.2 packages... If you have the ionice program (/usr/bin/ionice) installed under SuSE-10.3 OR -10.2, daily beagle indexing will automatically use it to set the

Re: [opensuse] Why beagle?

2007-12-22 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:58, James Knott wrote: ... Well, I've been in the workforce for over 35 years. One thing I've found is those who take it on themselves to learn more tend to do better. Those who won't make the attempt, tend not to advance. All well and good, but tell me,

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Schneider
Jerry Houston pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll

Re: [opensuse] Software Update conflicts while introducing KDE4 applications

2007-12-22 Thread Philippe Landau
Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:20:28 am Philippe Landau wrote: Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 06:26:45 am Philippe Landau wrote: Without having switched to KDE4 i get conflicts while trying to update OpenSuse 10.3. Where does Suse store the list of repositories

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: Regarding my problems getting scheduled backups (defined using YaST) to run: I read another description of scheduling backups in yet another of my SuSE Linux books, and came across some very non-obvious requirements in the notes there. I'll point them out here, in case

Beagle performance: end-user problem? (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Linda Walsh
The Saturday 2007-12-22 at 16:06 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: The real solution here is to find and fix the bug that causes beagle to allocate so much memory. It doesn't happen on all systems. ---. Without question, this is the best solution. Anders Johansson wrote: I wouldn't

Capping memory (and, indirectly, swap) use of programs (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Linda Walsh
Aaron Kulkis wrote: I just checked the man page for ulimit, and did a search for the string swap and it came up empty... so it looks like ulimit might not help herealthough ulimit -v can set an upper limit on virtual memory, --- You want to cap virtual memory usage, since virtual

Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2007-12-22 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-22 at 18:09 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: Actually, it helps solve it, sometimes. The application crashes, probably I wouldn't say probably. It shouldn't be par for the course for an application to not check return values

Re: Beagle performance: end-user problem? (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Howard Huckabee
On Saturday 22 December 2007 07:29:04 pm Linda Walsh wrote: The Saturday 2007-12-22 at 16:06 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: The real solution here is to find and fix the bug that causes beagle to allocate so much memory. It doesn't happen on all systems. ---. Without question, this

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. Eh? I doubt that. I can't envision any possible scenario where such an action would require a linux reboot. Perhaps someone cut and pasted

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: Also, after scheduling the backup(s), one must restart the computer. Nowhere else did I see any indication of that requirement. Eh? I doubt that. I can't envision any possible scenario where such an action would require a linux reboot. Perhaps

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think what idiot wrote this but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is correct though, it wouldn't be the first time some well meaning

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: The exact quote on that page, following the section on setting up an automated backup, is: You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take effect. Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book say to schedule the task

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread James Knott
Jerry Houston wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think what idiot wrote this but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression is correct though, it wouldn't be the first

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Joe Sloan wrote: You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take effect. Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book say to schedule the task with cron? No. I think I mentioned earlier that I used the YaST System Backup module to set it

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: You'll need to reboot your system for the new scheduling to take effect. Yeah that just sounds completely insane. Can you tell me, did the book say to schedule the task with cron? No. I think I mentioned earlier that I used the YaST System

Re: Beagle performance: end-user problem? (was Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU)

2007-12-22 Thread Carlos E. R.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2007-12-22 at 16:29 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: .. This is why I made a comment about *not* using swap on a system -- if you are using swap on any regular basis (my threshhold is using swap, *anytime*, during 'normal'

Re: [opensuse] Opensuse and USB card reader?

2007-12-22 Thread Aaron Kulkis
James Knott wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: 3.5 inch floppies are going to become increasingly difficult to find, in the same way that 12-inch, 8-inch, and 5-1/4-inch floppies before them became rarer and rarer until becoming extinct. Where'd you see a 12 floppy? The original, from IBM in the

Re: [opensuse] Backup scheduling

2007-12-22 Thread Ken Schneider
James Knott pecked at the keyboard and wrote: Jerry Houston wrote: Joe Sloan wrote: My first reaction on seeing advice to reboot is to think what idiot wrote this but I will for the time being withhold judgement until I can find a copy of that and read the context. If my first impression

Re: [opensuse] Beagle under 10.3 is really eating up my CPU

2007-12-22 Thread kanenas
Beagle should be scrapped and started over from the ground up, starting with the design assumption that it is to behave as an unobtrusive background process, not the current one which can take over the whole system with a feed me attitude as if the whole purpose for a computer and its data

Re: [opensuse] Panel pop-ups

2007-12-22 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:20:14 Chris Arnold wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: Can you change any settings at all in CCSM? I wonder if perhaps you've started compiz fusion with the gconf configuration setting Well, i can uncheck windows preview and there isn't a windows preview with

Re: [opensuse] Software updates and repositories understanding

2007-12-22 Thread Rodney Baker
On Sunday 23 December 2007 02:50:13 Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: Hi, Version updates for released products are extremely rare. Essentially, they only happen when there is a serious bug or security problem, and a backport of the fix is too complicated So

Re: [opensuse] Software updates and repositories understanding

2007-12-22 Thread Bob S
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:20:13 am Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) wrote: Anders Johansson wrote: Hi, Version updates for released products are extremely rare. Essentially, they only happen when there is a serious bug or security problem, and a backport of the fix is too complicated

Re: [opensuse] Software Update conflicts while introducing KDE4 applications

2007-12-22 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 22 December 2007 06:07:21 pm Philippe Landau wrote: ... but repositories are not the place where I would start troubleshooting. I included the file dependency error list with my original email. That is where I was looking, but all I can see is old bug that I experienced trying to

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Rajko M.
On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:36:03 pm Steve Reilly wrote: ... you need to install both the kernel Do you mean kernel sources, and compile package? AND madwifi for it to work, it doesnt tell you that on the madwifi site..((i made the same mistake when first screwing with wireless)

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Jerry Houston
Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:36:03 pm Steve Reilly wrote: ... you need to install both the kernel Do you mean kernel sources, and compile package? The directions tell you to install (or update) madwifi, then figure out the flavor of your kernel, and install

Re: NFS sync vs. async mounts (was Re: [opensuse] OpenSuse 10.2 - Fortran compilation very slow through NFS network with a 64bit server and 32bit clients.)

2007-12-22 Thread primm
On Friday 21 December 2007 20:28:04 Randall R Schulz wrote: On Friday 21 December 2007 11:10, primm wrote: NFS is kind of ugly itself, don't you think? Ugly? Naah! It's s neat. With nis and nfs anyone can login anywhere and get their own files and start work right after they've got

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Joe Sloan
Jerry Houston wrote: The directions tell you to install (or update) madwifi, then figure out the flavor of your kernel, and install the module to match it. Mine's bigsmp, for example. It didn't work for me, at any rate. When I was done installing (and rebooting), LOL! rebooting, again?

Re: [opensuse] will pay for wireless help

2007-12-22 Thread Rajko M.
On Sunday 23 December 2007 01:06:05 am Jerry Houston wrote: Rajko M. wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:36:03 pm Steve Reilly wrote: ... you need to install both the kernel Do you mean kernel sources, and compile package? The directions tell you to install (or update) madwifi,

Re: [opensuse-packaging] Publishing to non-oss repository?

2007-12-22 Thread Adrian Schröter
On Saturday 22 December 2007 03:27:31 wrote Marcus Rueckert: On 2007-12-22 05:17:43 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:08:04 am Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-12-22 04:06:32 +0300, Jasem Mutlaq wrote: After the build service, what's the procedure to submit and

[opensuse-packaging] Packaging of efltk

2007-12-22 Thread Vincenzo Barranco
Hi, I've to do the rpms of ede for X11:windowmanagers and I'm building on my home project (home:barravince112) I'm doing some build tests. During the building the obs said in the window: Installing shared libraries... cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/local/lib/libefltk.so.2.0': Permission

Re: [opensuse-packaging] Packaging of efltk

2007-12-22 Thread Marcus Hüwe
Hi, On 2007-12-22 15:15:08 +0100, Vincenzo Barranco wrote: Hi, I've to do the rpms of ede for X11:windowmanagers and I'm building on my home project (home:barravince112) I'm doing some build tests. During the building the obs said in the window: Installing shared libraries... cp: cannot

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