On Monday 14 January 2008 05:52:13 Jerry Houston wrote:
> Basil Chupin wrote:
> >> bullshit. I have found the "dreaded dog" to be absolutely worthless.
> >> I don't have the eating cpu complaint, but a google desktop it aint...
> >
> > ROFL!
> >
> > BUT!...don't ever mention "google" in polite
On Thursday 17 January 2008 12:02, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
> (I wouldn't have required a full quote of the last post, either).
^^
s/I/It
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On Thursday 17 January 2008 06:46, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> I'm not putting that crap back on my system just
> to file a bug which they already know about.
I think you all made your respective points sufficiently clear now.
(I wouldn't have required a full quote of the last post, either).
Can we now
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 00:12 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:29 +, not disclosed wrote:
It is not a beagle issue - it is a SUSE packaging issue, we all know what beagle does
and how it performs - for a huge number of people it is a
Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2008 Kevin Dupuy:
> File
> A
> Bug.
Or chat with them on irc.gnome.org #dashboard. Helpful people really.
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On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 00:12 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:29 +, not disclosed wrote:
> >>> For the love of all that is good and holy about our mailing list... WILL
> >>> YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS INCESSANT BITCHING to the Beagle mailing list???
> >>> I'
On Tuesday 15 January 2008 11:48:29 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
...
> That's a highly selective sample you have there,
> totally ignoring the vast majority which complain
> about beagle..and ONLY beagle, being a resource hog.
>
> > 1) Ubuntu HORRIBLY SLOW...even after removing beagle!
> > http://www.li
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:29 +, not disclosed wrote:
For the love of all that is good and holy about our mailing list... WILL
YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS INCESSANT BITCHING to the Beagle mailing list???
I'm tired of a) this constant repetition of an old thread when not all
of us h
Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 14 January 2008 06:49:03 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
Perhaps all the main commenters here should subscribe to the Beagle
mailing list, and have this discussion there. Otherwise, I don;t see
what the point of having this discussion on the openSUSE list
On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 22:29 +, not disclosed wrote:
>
> > For the love of all that is good and holy about our mailing list... WILL
> > YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS INCESSANT BITCHING to the Beagle mailing list???
> > I'm tired of a) this constant repetition of an old thread when not all
> > of us have
> For the love of all that is good and holy about our mailing list... WILL
> YOU PLEASE TAKE THIS INCESSANT BITCHING to the Beagle mailing list???
> I'm tired of a) this constant repetition of an old thread when not all
> of us have a problem, yet it is taking up half the mailing list messages
>
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 19:49 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 16:03 +0100, Clayton wrote:
> > I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> > definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> > Beagle
On Monday 14 January 2008 06:49:03 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > Perhaps all the main commenters here should subscribe to the Beagle
> > mailing list, and have this discussion there. Otherwise, I don;t see
> > what the point of having this discussion on the openSUSE list is.
>
On Monday 14 January 2008 06:35:18 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> I'll admitt that I've had one -1- issue with it, when it made my box a
>
> > slow hog, and that was when someone sent me a borked .doc file, that
> > made beagle choke. Deleted the file, and no, none, whatsoever problems
> > since.
> >
>
On Monday 14 January 2008 11:40:08 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> I cannot believe that the devs are NOT aware of this
> >> it's been this way for several years, and they haven't
> >> done shit about it. Which indicates that they just
> >> aren't interested in fixing it.
> >
> > And WHAT exactly
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 12:35 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
Clayton wrote:
I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
Beagle.
I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 16:03 +0100, Clayton wrote:
I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
Beagle.
I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
or ask som
Bjørn Lie wrote:
man, 14.01.2008 kl. 16.03 +0100, skrev Clayton:
snip
Exactly. Other than a few on this mailing list, I have yet to meet
ANYONE who likes or uses Beagle. The issue is not whether or not
these people do or do not use a desktop search tool... it's because of
the major performance
On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 12:35 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Clayton wrote:
> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> Beagle.
> >> I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and ei
This thread definitely qualifies as a zombie 'cause it
just won't die. It's not pure enough to be a "born-again"
thread and it hasn't sucked any blood so it isn't an
"undead". Zombie it is.
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On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 16:03 +0100, Clayton wrote:
> > >> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> > >> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> > >> Beagle.
> > >
> > I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
>
Clayton wrote:
I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
Beagle.
I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
or ask someone to remove it for them.
Exactly. Other than a fe
man, 14.01.2008 kl. 16.03 +0100, skrev Clayton:
snip
> Exactly. Other than a few on this mailing list, I have yet to meet
> ANYONE who likes or uses Beagle. The issue is not whether or not
> these people do or do not use a desktop search tool... it's because of
> the major performance impact tha
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> > >> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> > >> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> > >> Beagle.
> > >
> > I doubt this - all the user
> >> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> >> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> >> Beagle.
> >
> I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
> or ask someone to remove it for them.
Exactly. Other than
>>
>> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
>> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
>> Beagle.
>
I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
or ask someone to remove it for them.
_
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 16:06 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:33 am, peter wrote:
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| If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
| fingers to th
>
> I have a dozen or so OpenSUSE 10.x installations here, not one person leaves
> Beagle stuff running because it causes so many problems.
Yep we always remove it and set up locate which is useful and light weight...
_
Express you
Basil Chupin wrote:
>> bullshit. I have found the "dreaded dog" to be absolutely worthless.
>> I don't have the eating cpu complaint, but a google desktop it aint...
> ROFL!
>
> BUT!...don't ever mention "google" in polite society or a family
> forum.
But isn't the enemy of my enemy my friend?
> Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> > definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> > Beagle.
I have a dozen or so OpenSUSE 10.x installations here, not one person leaves
Beagle stuff running because it causes so
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Aaron Kulkis schreef:
At what point is a user with 10-20 years of experience
using computers expected to start behaving like something
other than a complete novice who has never used an
electronic device in his entire life.
Do you m
> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> Beagle.
How do you figure that?
Maybe once Beagle works a bit better it should be in the default
install, but right now... given its horrible performance (for a large
number of people), I would say Beagle should not be in the
David C. Rankin wrote:
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
Beagle.
bullshit. I have found the "dreaded dog" to be absolutely worthless. I
don't have the eating cpu complai
Kevin Dupuy wrote:
I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
Beagle.
bullshit. I have found the "dreaded dog" to be absolutely worthless. I
don't have the eating cpu complaint, but a google desktop
On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 16:06 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> PerfectReign wrote:
> > On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:33 am, peter wrote:
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> >> PerfectReign wrote:
> >>
> >> | If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
> >>
PerfectReign wrote:
On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:33 am, peter wrote:
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| If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
| fingers to the keyboard.
I'm tired of some arguments.
If you like beagle install it. If
On Monday 24 December 2007 12:34:55 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
...
> USING THE TOOLS OF HIS JOB IS ***PART*** OF HIS JOB.
>
> If you owned a racing team, would you continue to employ
> a driver who refused to learn how to handle a skid? Or
> who refused to learn how to use the appropriate transmission
On Mon, 2007-12-24 at 01:34 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:17:50 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >>> I have seen that, and as guy was decision maker in my case I left him
> >>> alone. It was easy to show respect and point better way, but some people
> >>>
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Aaron Kulkis schreef:
>
> At what point is a user with 10-20 years of experience
> using computers expected to start behaving like something
> other than a complete novice who has never used an
> electronic device in his entire life.
>
>
>
>
Do
Rajko M. wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:17:50 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
I have seen that, and as guy was decision maker in my case I left him
alone. It was easy to show respect and point better way, but some people
take that as a insult, not help. They look at help as an attempt to make
the
On Sat, January 12, 2008 7:33 am, peter wrote:
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> PerfectReign wrote:
>
> | If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
> | fingers to the keyboard.
>
> I'm tired of some arguments.
> If you like beagle install it. If you do
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PerfectReign wrote:
| If you don't like it, don't install it. There's no one holding your
| fingers to the keyboard.
I'm tired of some arguments.
If you like beagle install it. If you don't leave it. This is a free world.
But beagle is a default in
On Sat, December 22, 2007 3:09 pm, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Kai Ponte wrote:
>>> The thing needs a complete overhaul.
>>
>> Excellent idea, Aaron.
>>
>> I think I just read you volunteering.
>
> Wrong.
>
>>
>> Here you go...
>
> I don't need this application in the first
> place. Why would I waste my
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Friday 21 December 2007 08:28, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
I just don't understand why it works so bad on such a good computer
and an average data load.
Simple, Gary.
It's poorly designed and/or written, because it's
behavior while executing is very careless, and consumes
resour
Robert Smits wrote:
On December 24, 2007 09:26:53 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 24 December 2007 09:24, James Knott wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Monday 24 December 2007 09:11, James Knott wrote:
...
Boilers requires a specific trade to install & service, because
when water heats,
James Gardner wrote:
I guess I'm kind of new here, but this thread is really starting to annoy me.
Users are what users are. If they were highly knowlegable, most of us would be
out of work. They don't WANT to know the geeky stuff. So what? I don't WANT
to know how to rebuild my transmiss
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 06:51:05 am Hans Krueger wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Monday 2007-12-24 at 22:55 -0800, Robert Smits wrote:
> > > On December 24, 2007 03:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > >> In my country, hot water systems do not boil the water. And there is a
> > >> relieve val
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 01:02:57 am Dave Plater wrote:
> I just had a look at the suse factory repository and there is a version
> of beagle dated 24th maybe they got the message?
I looked in changelogs and I can't find any changes in last few days.
It is probably automatic rebuild because so
Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>
> The Monday 2007-12-24 at 22:55 -0800, Robert Smits wrote:
>
> > On December 24, 2007 03:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> >> In my country, hot water systems do not boil the water. And there is a
> >> relieve valve.
>
> > Boilers are not used to heat water, they are used to
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Those engineers.
They have thought on everything to minimize effect of failed elements.
Except computer engineers: if the program fails, they shrug, smile, and
call it a bug :-P
That
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The Monday 2007-12-24 at 22:55 -0800, Robert Smits wrote:
On December 24, 2007 03:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
In my country, hot water systems do not boil the water. And there is a
relieve valve.
Boilers are not used to heat water, they are
I just had a look at the suse factory repository and there is a version
of beagle dated 24th maybe they got the message?
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 05:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>
> If a plumber connects a hot water system wrong it can explode an
> destroy the compu
On December 24, 2007 03:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2007-12-24 at 12:11 -0500, James Knott wrote:
> >>> If a plumber connects a hot water system wrong it can explode an
> >>> destroy the computer downstairs as well as half the house.
> >>
> >> It seems that I'm missing something, but
On December 24, 2007 09:26:53 am Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 09:24, James Knott wrote:
> > Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > On Monday 24 December 2007 09:11, James Knott wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> Boilers requires a specific trade to install & service, because
> > >> when
On Monday 24 December 2007 05:54:30 pm Carlos E. R. wrote:
> >>> If a plumber connects a hot water system wrong it can explode an
> >>> destroy the computer downstairs as well as half the house.
> >>
> >> It seems that I'm missing something, but forgive me and let me now how
> >> that can happen.
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The Monday 2007-12-24 at 12:11 -0500, James Knott wrote:
If a plumber connects a hot water system wrong it can explode an destroy
the computer downstairs as well as half the house.
It seems that I'm missing something, but forgive me and let me n
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The Sunday 2007-12-23 at 16:26 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
The problem is (to use my automobile analogy again), we
have users who can't even be bothered to learn the
difference between the brake and accelerator pedals, and
do the equivalent of driv
Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Sunday 23 December 2007 12:51, Stevens wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 17:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
No, it is the responsibility of the practitioners of IT to make its
artifacts accessible and useable to people without the need for an
understanding of the inner
On Monday 24 December 2007 08:17:21 am Stevens wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 02:45, Rajko M. wrote:
> > Stevens,
> >
> > Be careful calling the names and showing so little understanding how big
> > is human kind knowledge.
> >
> > Doctor, lawyer, financial advisor, teller, car mechanic, elect
On Monday 24 December 2007 12:00:02 pm James Gardner wrote:
> I guess I'm kind of new here, but this thread is really starting to annoy
> me. Users are what users are. If they were highly knowlegable, most of us
> would be out of work. They don't WANT to know the geeky stuff. So what?
> I don'
what's the big deal? Be HAPPY you get to deal with "dumb" users. Without
them, you may be living in a shelter.
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>To: opensuse@opensuse.org
>Subject: Re: [opensus
Rajko M. schreef:
> I'm comming from country where plumber can connect hot water to wrong valve
> and it can burn customer, in the worst case. Energy supply to water heater is
> under control of gas or electrical installer,
Sounds familiar
> including all thermostats, and
> it is inspected
On Monday 24 December 2007 08:08:21 am James Knott wrote:
> Imagine going to your doctor and saying "I'm not
> feeling well, fix the problem" and not providing any further info.
Great number of conversations with doctors, or any other professional, or
tradesman, start with similar type of sente
On Monday 24 December 2007 09:24, James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Monday 24 December 2007 09:11, James Knott wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Boilers requires a specific trade to install & service, because
> >> when water heats, it expands and releases steam, which cause a
> >> signifi
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 09:11, James Knott wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> Boilers requires a specific trade to install & service, because when
>> water heats, it expands and releases steam, which cause a significant
>> increase in pressure. A boiler that ruptures under press
On Monday 24 December 2007 09:11, James Knott wrote:
> ...
>
> Boilers requires a specific trade to install & service, because when
> water heats, it expands and releases steam, which cause a significant
> increase in pressure. A boiler that ruptures under pressure is
> comparable to a bomb.
Even
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 04:05:52 am Dave Plater wrote:
>
>> Rajko M. wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday 24 December 2007 02:56:18 am Dave Plater wrote:
>>>
> Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most
> rudimentary use. Book that describes comput
On Monday 24 December 2007 04:05:52 am Dave Plater wrote:
> Rajko M. wrote:
> > On Monday 24 December 2007 02:56:18 am Dave Plater wrote:
> >>> Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most
> >>> rudimentary use. Book that describes computer basics has few hundred
> >>> pages. How
Rajko M. wrote:
> Doctor that doesn't know plumbing is not considered as unusual, but in your
> opinion the same doctor that doesn't know how to use computer is?!
> What's wrong in this picture?
>
> Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most rudimentary
> use. Book that desc
On Monday 24 December 2007 02:45, Rajko M. wrote:
>
> Stevens,
>
> Be careful calling the names and showing so little understanding how big
> is human kind knowledge.
>
> Doctor, lawyer, financial advisor, teller, car mechanic, electronic
> repairer, plumber, electrician, roofer, etc, etc, don't co
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Sunday 23 December 2007 11:03:42 pm Stevens wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:11, Terry Eck wrote:
>>
>>> From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
>>> idiot, 1: a person afflicted with idiocy; esp: a feebleminded person
>>> having a mental age not exceeding thr
Stevens wrote:
> On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:11, Terry Eck wrote:
>
>> From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
>> idiot, 1: a person afflicted with idiocy; esp: a feebleminded person
>> having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
>> custodial care.
>>
>> I think you
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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:53, James Knott wrote:
>> Randall R Schulz wrote:
>>> On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote:
...
>>> Shall we deny access to these things to people who cannot pass a
>>>
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 02:56:18 am Dave Plater wrote:
>
>>> Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most
>>> rudimentary use. Book that describes computer basics has few hundred
>>> pages. How many pages is needed to describe plumbing from A to Z ?
>>>
>>>
On Monday 24 December 2007 03:06:41 am Rajko M. wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2007 02:56:18 am Dave Plater wrote:
...
> Merry Christmass to you too.
Merry Christmas and happy New Year, Dave.
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On Monday 24 December 2007 02:56:18 am Dave Plater wrote:
> > Computers are far more complex than plumbing, even in the most
> > rudimentary use. Book that describes computer basics has few hundred
> > pages. How many pages is needed to describe plumbing from A to Z ?
> >
> carefull you don't insu
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Sunday 23 December 2007 11:03:42 pm Stevens wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:11, Terry Eck wrote:
>>
>>> From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
>>> idiot, 1: a person afflicted with idiocy; esp: a feebleminded person
>>> having a mental age not exceeding thr
On Sunday 23 December 2007 11:03:42 pm Stevens wrote:
> On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:11, Terry Eck wrote:
> > From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
> > idiot, 1: a person afflicted with idiocy; esp: a feebleminded person
> > having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
On Sunday 23 December 2007 18:11, Terry Eck wrote:
> From Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary:
> idiot, 1: a person afflicted with idiocy; esp: a feebleminded person
> having a mental age not exceeding three years and requiring complete
> custodial care.
>
> I think you mean an ignorant person.
>
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:17:50 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > I have seen that, and as guy was decision maker in my case I left him
> > alone. It was easy to show respect and point better way, but some people
> > take that as a insult, not help. They look at help as an attempt to make
> > them f
On Sunday 23 December 2007 15:49, Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> >
> > Catering to idiots only encourages them to continue
> > their idiotic behavior.
>
> 90% of computer users are idiots,
Hey! I resemble that remark...
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Kai Ponte wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 09:13, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 18:06:37 Stevens wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:30, Rajko M. wrote:
Catering to idiots only encourages them to continue
their idiotic behavior.
Insultin
On Sunday 23 December 2007 15:49, Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> ...
>
> 90% of computer users are idiots,
Which includes those who will not trim quoted material when replying to
email...
> and that's not going to change since these people don't want to take
> the time to sit down and organize their stuf
On Sat, 2007-12-22 at 10:30 -0600, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Thursday 20 December 2007 08:57:50 pm Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > Kevin Dupuy wrote:
>
> > >
> > > OK, here's the issue: you're not "most people". I'm not most people. All
> > > of us subscribed to this mailing list are probably not most peop
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 21:57 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Kevin Dupuy wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 18:10 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> >> Stevens wrote:
> >>> Today Kevin Dupuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From what I'm reading right now, I'm presuming either you have no
> documents, or
On Sunday 23 December 2007 12:51, Stevens wrote:
> On Saturday 22 December 2007 17:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > No, it is the responsibility of the practitioners of IT to make its
> > artifacts accessible and useable to people without the need for an
> > understanding of the inner workings of th
On Saturday 22 December 2007 17:27, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>
> No, it is the responsibility of the practitioners of IT to make its
> artifacts accessible and useable to people without the need for an
> understanding of the inner workings of those technologies.
>
>
> Randall Schulz
Ahhh, the Holy
On Saturday 22 December 2007 13:42, Rajko M. wrote:
>
> None up to now told what version of SUSE is used.
I did. Hey, over here. I did. (hand waving frantically)
Didn't seem to make any difference, though.
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On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 12:29:33 PM -0500, Aaron Kulkis
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Most computer users' behavior is equivalent to drivers who are not
> yet qualified to have a license...they need constant supervision.
>
> Why?
>
> Because they *REFUSE* to learn even basic principles of effective
>
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:58, James Knott wrote:
> ...
>
> Well, I've been in the workforce for over 35 years. One thing I've
> found is those who take it on themselves to learn more tend to do
> better. Those who won't make the attempt, tend not to advance.
All well and good, but tell me,
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:53, James Knott wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have
> >> found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd
> >>
Rajko M. wrote:
> On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:14:20 pm James Knott wrote:
>
>
>> I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found
>> some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to
>> use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters
Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have
>> found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just
>> learn to use their computer properly. You don't find many
On Saturday 22 December 2007 05:14:20 pm James Knott wrote:
> I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have found
> some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just learn to
> use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters who don't
> know how to us
On Saturday 22 December 2007 11:29:33 am Aaron Kulkis wrote:
BTW, this discussion fits offtopic list, so I crossposted there and expect any
answers there.
> Because they *REFUSE* to learn even basic principles
> of effective computer USE and self-protection (the
> equivalent of "don't drive thr
On Saturday 22 December 2007 15:14, James Knott wrote:
> ...
>
> I have to agree. I have provided software support at IBM and have
> found some users could avoid a lot of their problems, if they'd just
> learn to use their computer properly. You don't find many carpenters
> who don't know how to
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> Anders Johansson wrote:
>>
>> You need to look up the definition of idiot. Nobody can know everything
>>
>
> True. We're using it in the colloquial sense, that being,
> "People who know far less than what the can REASONABLY be
> expected to know." Most computer users' behavi
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 18:06:37 Stevens wrote:
On Saturday 22 December 2007 10:30, Rajko M. wrote:
Catering to idiots only encourages them to continue
their idiotic behavior.
Insulting 90% of people doesn't help to make your case.
You have to understand that not
On Friday 21 December 2007 08:28, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > I just don't understand why it works so bad on such a good computer
> > and an average data load.
>
> Simple, Gary.
>
> It's poorly designed and/or written, because it's
> behavior while executing is very careless, and consumes
> resource
On Friday 21 December 2007 08:28, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
> > I just don't understand why it works so bad on such a good computer
> > and an average data load.
>
> Simple, Gary.
>
> It's poorly designed and/or written, because it's
> behavior while executing is very careless, and consumes
> resource
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