Re: OT: Boz's e-mail address

2001-05-03 Thread dave o'brien
A scroll of mail from Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wed, 2 May 2001 15:52:50 -0500 Read it? y Pegasus is a pretty good e-mail client and it's free. Free Agent should work pretty well as an e-mail client, as well as a usenet newsreader and it's free too. I used pegasus for years. It runs on

Re: PUG commentary: Rebecca Lane

2001-05-03 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.
Thanks Paul, Ya know this being my first entry and being new to the list I didnt realize that the pictures were going to be commented on, I am truly grateful though that they are. You have given me a lot of things here that I never thought of. 1. I didnt do alot of editing to the pic, with

My Pug Comments. Relax, I'm not Shel (g)

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
Well, as everybody have said, this month's pug is really good. My favourite pics are: Timo's picture of his little baby. I really liked it. The light is very gentle and I like the tight framing too. Beauty pic, and for sure the pride of Daddy. My month's favourite together with Robb' s one.

Bodies Roll Call Results UPDATE 88

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members, thanks. Also, I've not included 110 and digital cameras, just because I started this way, and I didn't want to change in the middle of the way. Also, if you already submited and want to add new items, please put clearly in

Re: PUG request

2001-05-03 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Where the exposure details aren't recorded, my guess is that the person submitting doesn't know, or never knew. :-) That person is desperately in need of either a 645n or an MZ-S. -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and

Re: Pug commentary

2001-05-03 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Ted Beilby wrote: When I was taking Basic Photography in jr.college, I feared the days when we had to critique. I soon came to learn that these were the days I learned the most about my work. These critiques were not just, I like that one best., there were times when my shots were ripped

Re: My first LX!

2001-05-03 Thread Aaron Reynolds
Ryan Brooks wrote: Boy, that LX2000 kit is sure expensive. I calculate it at $4300US. Ouch! I think the LX2000 kit includes a special version of the rather pricey 50mm f1.2, doesn't it? Like Wheatfield, I think that the LX2000 is less pretty than the regular LX, but if it were my only

Re: b/w prints on color paper

2001-05-03 Thread Kelvin Ang
Hello Todd, Is there a way I can make a comparison between a printed Kodak PC Polycontrast III paper and that of Koyal Professional Paper for colour print? Now that you mentioned it, the Kodak print I got do seem a little different from the usual color prints I get. It looks a little like a

Re: My first LX!

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
Congratulations, Ryan, and welcome to this very addictive club! Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: b/w prints on color paper

2001-05-03 Thread Kelvin Ang
I'm very new to b/w photography, and I am captivated by how b/w images seem to portray so much more than color images. Perhaps the colors in a color photo are too distracting for me. :) I used to swear by Velvia, but now I think Tri-X is simply wonderful. I got a couple of rolls of Plus-X, hoping

PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread Alexey Tikhonov
Hello fellow PDML'ers Due to the traffic I once reduced my PDML life to www.pdml.net but rejoined today just to thank all pug commentors who said warm words about my Daniil shot. btw, here http://www.spinaudio.com/alt/series2.html are other portrait from this series with the same subject (if

Re: Subject: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
Thanks for your comment, Fairy. Just for you to know carucha is Buenos Aires slang (cames from cara=face) for something like ugly face or weird face or funny face or similar. A bit hard to translate. I liked your shot too, but as I said in my comment, I'm lazzy in commenting. If you want to see

May PUG

2001-05-03 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.
I just wanted to say that even though I am really really new to photography... I love these pictures. To me they are all so Beautiful. Thanks to everyone who submitted, I honestly dont think I could pick a favorite. They are all so GREAT!!! Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited

June PUG

2001-05-03 Thread B. K. Lane Sr.
Hi ya'll, I have a question about the June PUG. Can it be any type of building, old or new? Falling apart or not? I live pretty close to an old Fort and I think that I may get some pictures of it and see if any are worth submitting. Thanks, Rebecca NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and

Re: Pug commentary

2001-05-03 Thread Bob Blakely
This is why God made PhotoShop! Ever had the urge to touch it up? BTW, I see Lady MacBeth with longish (but not too long - 1 from cuticle) somewhat pointed (classy, but not macabre) nails the color of venous blood. Positioning of the hand (and index finger) would be critical as you say. Hey, I

Re: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread herbet brasileiro
Thanks Dan, that's really flattering. I took a meter out of the shadow side of Christ's statue using PZ1's spot meter. The exposures where ranging around 1/30s and 2s with the lens wide open at f/2.8. I shot an entire roll with slight variations of the same view trying to be as steady as possible

Re: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread herbet brasileiro
That's great lighting. So simple and yet so efficient. Did you use a tungsteen bulb for that? Herbet. --- Alexey Tikhonov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello fellow PDML'ers Due to the traffic I once reduced my PDML life to www.pdml.net but rejoined today just to thank all pug commentors who

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Jostein Oksne wrote: I can't see that we really _need_ comments to shake us up on every PUG. We don't _need_ any comments on the PUG, but since we've decided to initiate a somewhat formal procedure for them, those comments should be honest and forthright. And, I suspect, there won't always

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread Stephen Moore
Shel Belinkoff wrote: One of the things about photographers is that they're not always their best editors. They often get emotionally involved with their work which prevents them from seeing a poor photograph. This is already well-established, a given in the print media. Author or reporter,

Re: b/w prints on color paper

2001-05-03 Thread herbet brasileiro
Kelvin, You might want to try (if available) the new Kodak Portra 400BW. It's a c41 bw film designed to be printed in color paper. It has a different grain structure from TriX though. Here's the URL:

May PUG comment: Frog by David Dixon

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Oksne
I think this is another example (like Jewel by Gianfranco Irlanda) that you don't have to venture far to find good motifs. Not even for nature photos. Comment on technique: I think you have chosen the best DOF for the situation. The rear eye is not in focus, but as it is, the background is

May PUG comment: Lotus by Ken Tam

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Oksne
One of my favourites this month. I like it for the colours in the flower and for the good choice of DOF. It's exactly enough to embrace the flower, and still shallow enough to soften the background. It's unfair to be picky, but one little detail could have made this photo even better, imo. If

Re: June PUG

2001-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: B. K. Lane Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 3, 2001 9:34 AM Subject: June PUG Hi ya'll, I have a question about the June PUG. Can it be any type of building, old or new? Falling apart or not? I live pretty close to an old Fort and

Re: OT: Boz's e-mail address

2001-05-03 Thread Todd Stanley
Well I use Eudora 3.0, what are they up to now, 6.0? Basically the newer versions seem to offer me nothing I need. I like 3.0, simple, small, fast, and doesn't understand crap like javascript, or try to second guess me like LookOut! Todd At 11:54 AM 5/2/01 -0700, you wrote: Todd Stanley

Re: A 100/2.8 vs. FA 100/3.5 vs. Tamron SP 90/2.5

2001-05-03 Thread J. Hein
I used to own the older Tamron 90/2.5 (old 49mm filter version; stolen earlier this year) and replaced it with the Pentax M 85/2. My wife owns the the Pentax M 100/2.8 (non-macro) which is essentially the same as the A 100/2.8. I never handled the FA 100/3.5. You ask about the application of

Recording expousre data (was: Subject: Re: PUG request)

2001-05-03 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
The Contax SLR databack lets you reserve the front two frames for imprinting exposure data of the remaining frames--frame number, aperture, shutter speed, ASA setting (I think), over/underexposure, and day/date/time. The imprinting is made at the end of the rewind. Cool and useful. - This

Re: My Pug Comments. Relax, I'm not Shel (g)

2001-05-03 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 3 May 2001 09:24:22 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan van Wijk's postcard picture. I liked it. What sharpness, man! It makes me desire the FA 24 even more. What I would have done is to move slightly to the left, to avoid the little bush to be in front of the truck (but may be then you

Re: A 100/2.8 vs. FA 100/3.5 vs. Tamron SP 90/2.5

2001-05-03 Thread J. Hein
I forgot to write, I also own the matched Tamron converter for the 90/2.5. Mine didn't work well: to low contrast. I suggest a cheap 200mm. Costs the same as the converter and works way better for me. Joachim - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: My Pug Comments. Relax, I'm not Shel (g)

2001-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Subject: My Pug Comments. Relax, I'm not Shel (g) William Robb's pic of his niece. What a good lightning! This is very subtle and soft. I wish I had this kind of light at home, when I take pics of my little niece. I like the framing too, and is an

Re: Subject: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tanya Russell Mayer Subject: Subject: PUG comments I would also like to add that I absolutely loved Mark Roberts Amaryllis, Rob Studdert's Acoustics, Gary Murphy's Two Countries, Chris Mitchell's CreaseCam!, William Robb's Quiet Time, and I think

Woops....Re: June PUG

2001-05-03 Thread William Robb
With a dozen PDML members from Texax, That would be Texas. L8R Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

May PUG comment: Seaoat by M. Patrick Hunt

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Oksne
It's a classical sunset shot. As a stock angecy picture it's very sellable, eg. as a postcard. The composition gives room for some text in the upper left corner, eg. a bible quote or some word of wisdom. As a standalone photo, however, it's my opinion that the area in the upper left gets a bit

May PUG comment: Cherry Rooster by Ed Dombek

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Oksne
I think this picture has good composition, and captures the significan moment of the situation. The only thing missing is detail in the rooster's plumage. Had it been standing in the sun, it would have been perfect. I don't know the MZ-5n very well, but I think that if you had popped up the

RE: Jan van Wijk's May PUG

2001-05-03 Thread John . Cohen
I agree that it's a fine picture, but in the interest of my learning, can someone comment on the sky? It is very dark in the upper right, and I can't imagine the atmospheric conditions that could do that. It looks like there was a polarizer on the lens that wasn't fully rotated. Or something. I

Re: PUG request

2001-05-03 Thread Buford Terrell
Why would you record the exposure details? The same lighting and composition configuration will never occur again. Even for zone system, I don't record more than the +/- needed for development. (Unless of course I'm shooting a particular kind of test or experiment) At 08:39 AM 05/03/2001

Re: OT: Boz's e-mail address

2001-05-03 Thread admin
Well I use Eudora 3.0, what are they up to now, 6.0? Basically the newer versions seem to offer me nothing I need. I like 3.0, simple, small, fast, and doesn't understand crap like javascript, or try to second guess me like LookOut! The consensus in news.admin.net-abuse.email, where I lurk a

RE: Jan van Wijk's May PUG

2001-05-03 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Thu, 3 May 2001 09:27:05 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree that it's a fine picture, but in the interest of my learning, can someone comment on the sky? It is very dark in the upper right, and I can't imagine the atmospheric conditions that could do that. It looks like there was a

Why wives can't trust their cheatin' husbands

2001-05-03 Thread Paul . Stregevsky
Scene from work, this morning; my friend's name has been changed to protect the guilty: Alfredo: Paul, I must made a big mistake and I need your help. Paul: Uh-oh. Did you break something? Alfredo: Not exactly. I just submitted a winning bid on EBay for $375. But the seller is in Australia,

Re: PUG request

2001-05-03 Thread Dan Scott
Hi Jon, It can be both. I don't record mine (haven't formed the habit yet), but I do adjust aperture and speed frequently depending on circumstances and level of uncertainty. I currently have eight rolls of film waiting to be processed, so just remembering what is on which roll is a major

RE: June PUG

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Oksne
Hi, Rebecca! Creative interpretations of the themes are always welcome! Jostein -Original Message- From: B. K. Lane Sr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: June PUG Hi ya'll, I have a question about the June PUG.

Re: OT:Web sight set up questions

2001-05-03 Thread Dan Scott
Probably not me. :-) I think 'warez' enablers are probably fondest of it (although, with the endless bloating of many programs, 200MB may not be enough to hold a complete app soon). My ISP still manages to generate profit with it--you get charged extra once you exceed the monthly bandwidth limit.

Anybody ever...

2001-05-03 Thread Stephen Moore
...take a polarizer apart? Me neither. My wife got me a nice (and pricey) one as a gift, B+W with MRC from BH. Opened once on Christmas morning, then stored in box with silica gel until last night, when I discovered a smudge *on the inside* of the rotating part. Too late to send back, so is

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
Shel wrote: What a fascinating comment. Photographing people is what I do best. I see John Mason's photograph as a photograph about people. Perhaps you don't see it that way ... maybe to you it's a picture of a train platform. More condecension, eh Shel? Condescension?!

Re[2]: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, I'd like to make a suggestion. When the reviewers have been assigned their photos to review they should mail 'their' photographers privately and ask them what, if anything, they want get out of the review. This should help the reviewers to pitch their comments at the appropriate level. If

Re: May PUG comment: Frog by David Dixon

2001-05-03 Thread David Dixon
Many thanks Jostein for commenting on my submission, and thank you also to those who have taken the time to pass comment. Had this been mine, I would have cropped away the foreground that is visibly out of focus. Probably up to the small area on the left edge with no duckweed. I've tried out

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Treena Harp
I have to say I agree. When I was in college studying journalism, my instructors were nothing short of brutal, whether the class involving writing, editing or photography. Their message was if you can't cut it here, how do you think you'll do out there? I personally witnessed several mediocre

Re: b/w prints on color paper

2001-05-03 Thread T Caleb Fauver
I am going to jump in on this thread. I have been shooting a lot of real B/W film lately, and the cost is adding up. How much would I expect to pay for a decent darkroom setup? (I would only develop B/W with the equipment). OT I know; sorry. But you guys are such a wealth of information.

Re: OT:Web sight set up questions

2001-05-03 Thread John Francis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Original Message -- Geez... who actually _needs_ 200Mb of web space? (asks a guy who has 5 gigs of it available, for free:) Mostly multimedia web sites. Porn sites in particular take up lots of space with image files. AVI and MP3 files can add up

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread tom
Treena Harp wrote: I have to say I agree. When I was in college studying journalism, my instructors were nothing short of brutal, whether the class involving writing, editing or photography. I'm not sure what a course designed to train professional photographers has to do with the PUG.

RE: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Bucky
I agree with you that honest critique is healthy and useful. Rude critique, however, is not. It is a trivial task to convey useful feedback without being contemptuous (This is just a typical, amateurish photograph, something just barely worthy of a beginner photographer). Cheers, Mike

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
Granted... and as others have expressed, we should decide what the modus operandi of this forum should be. I think it's evident that if unexpected criticism or harsh words are unleased, the forum can degenerate somewhat (mea culpa). We should be able to obtain a balance where it is fun, yet

May '01 Assignment: Bill Gekas, Fairy, William Johnson, Timo Hartikainen

2001-05-03 Thread a_v_k
Sorry to be late, I just found out that my mail never made it to the PUG but here it comes: - and probably not plain test - I am working on it Bill Gekas: Wife with Fritz the Cat I like this picture very much. Both of your victims look attentive into the camera, the angle is nice, coming

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Gerald F. Cermak
Well, how about allowing some people to opt out of critiques by adding a line to their submission email stating such. Or will that too much overhead for the PUG maintainers? - Original Message - From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 10:59 AM

Re: Subject: Re: temperature range of MZ-5N (OT)

2001-05-03 Thread Todd Stanley
In Minnesota, temperatures of -25 F (-32 F) isn't uncommon during the night in winter. Windchills can be much worse, -60 F (-51 C) aren't uncommon either. Getting back onto cameras, I have had them out during the day when the high is about 0 F (-18 C) and my Ricoh body does fine, the solar

Re: b/w prints on color paper

2001-05-03 Thread tom
T Caleb Fauver wrote: I am going to jump in on this thread. I have been shooting a lot of real B/W film lately, and the cost is adding up. How much would I expect to pay for a decent darkroom setup? (I would only develop B/W with the equipment). The main cost is your time. Decent

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
Group, I think we just make a rule. NO MORE NIGHT TRAIN PICTURES. :-) :-) :-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: John Edwin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:31 PM Subject: Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train I really thought that

Re: My first LX!

2001-05-03 Thread Todd Stanley
Yes it does come with a special lens, it looks like a 'Limited' finish A 50mm F1.2, which may not have the A on the aperture ring. Anyway, check out the LX2000 on the right in this picture (the other one I think has the 43mm Limited on it):

May PUG comments for Flaider, Borgden, Maytola, Cotty

2001-05-03 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Hi, This is my assignment for the May gallery. Alin Flaider's Springtime Dance: Good title, I immediately identified the couple of flowers dancing. I like the composition, the right flower with the two 'arms' up, and its 'partner' looking down. Better if: at least in my screen, the colours look

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread tom
Bucky wrote: I agree with you that honest critique is healthy and useful. Rude critique, however, is not. It is a trivial task to convey useful feedback without being contemptuous (This is just a typical, amateurish photograph, something just barely worthy of a beginner photographer).

Re: Anybody ever...

2001-05-03 Thread Todd Stanley
Unless it's different than any other filter I have seen, the filter is basically a sandwidge of a gel type substance that is the actual filter, with two peices of glass protecting it. I don't think it will come apart easy, and even if it comes apart you'll likely never get it back together

Re: My first LX!

2001-05-03 Thread K.Takeshita
on 5/3/01 3:05 PM, Todd Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, check out the LX2000 on the right in this picture (the other one I think has the 43mm Limited on it): http://www.t3.rim.or.jp/~azuma/jpeg/camera/LX2000_3.jpg I just happened to know that this particular owner went through a

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
I don't think it needs to be a critique. I had a 10th Chemistry teacher who knew I wasn't getting it. Guess who he frequently called to the front of the class to write the equations on the board to humiliate? Guess how much I learned? I don't find words that could possibly hurt the viewer to

MX?

2001-05-03 Thread Dave Evans
Item #1233190886 on Ebay I wonder what is for sale? comments? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
I see a trend going here as well. Those who have been to some kind of formalized training seem to accept that a contemptuous style of critique is acceptable and normal. Those that have not, do not see it that way. The PDML/PUG is not a formalized training arena. Where does that leave us? Tom

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
I like this way: keep the commenting process the way it is now and trust the list to keep things balanced. Tom C. - Original Message - h From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re: About PUG Commentaries It's obvious

Re: MX?

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Dave Evans wrote: Item #1233190886 on Ebay I wonder what is for sale? comments? I dunno, but *I* won't be bidding on it. :) chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Gerald F. Cermak
Chris Brogden asks: It's obvious that different people have different comfort levels when it comes to criticism, and different expectations for their photos. What's the general consensus? Should we go back to having no formal commenting procedure and just comment individually on the photos

Re: May PUG comment: Cherry Rooster by Ed Dombek

2001-05-03 Thread Jostein Øksne
- Original Message - From: Ed Dombek [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for commenting. I totally expected a response regarding not using the flash. I didn't because I was in a hurry, was using the long zoom (80-320) and didn't want to spill my beer! LOL I let you guess which reason had

Re: PUG request

2001-05-03 Thread Tonghang Zhou
Why would you record the exposure and lighting info? To learn from and grow one's own experience, of course! Isn't this how one learns photography in the first place? There's the side benefit that such info lends others a learning opportunity when the pics are published, such as in PUG.

Re: b/w home *developing!*

2001-05-03 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Caleb wrote: How much would I expect to pay for a decent darkroom setup? I would only develop B/W ... and Tom answered: The main cost is your time. Decent equipment can be had for under $400 if you're thrifty. Check ebay to get an idea of the prices on enlargers, enlarging lenses,

Re: PUG request

2001-05-03 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Tonghang Zhou wrote: Why would you record the exposure and lighting info? To learn from and grow one's own experience, of course! Isn't this how one learns photography in the first place? There's the side benefit that such info lends others a learning opportunity when the pics are

Re: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread Carlos Royo
Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Carlos Royo's Saddhu. A great study of character, with a feeling of human feeling and a sense of timelessness and texture. Thanks for your kind comments, Daniel. I have enjoyed this month's gallery, as usual. There are a lot of fine photos, and although my

Re: MX?

2001-05-03 Thread John Francis
Dave Evans wrote: Item #1233190886 on Ebay I wonder what is for sale? comments? That's not an MX - it's an ME. They're selling the camera body (not guaranteed to work), plus the M 50mm f1.7. -- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Silicon Graphics, Inc. (650)933-8295

Re: Unsolicited May PUG Comments

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
Caruchas by Albano Garcia My first thought was this was going to be a music CD cover! Cool. Thanks, Ed. No CD by now, but we have some demo tapes : - ) Please don't believe I look this way. It's a 20mm lens. No, really, it was intended for a collective web page showing our photos, travel

Re: b/w home *developing!*

2001-05-03 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
ooops, I wrote: To just develop (which is a very worthwhile part to do oneself) all you would really need as equipment is the daylight developing tank. ... and a thermometer in the range of 60-100degrees or so. An item worthy of buying one designed for

RE: About pug commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Albano_Garcia
To add my two devaluated cents to this too long thread I would like to say the following: The first comment I read this month was Shel's one and I just thought: Ouch! I think you can be a hard critic, say everything you think about it without need to hurt. There are a lot of ways to say

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread John Francis
Gerald F. Cermak wrote: Well, how about allowing some people to opt out of critiques by adding a line to their submission email stating such. Or will that too much overhead for the PUG maintainers? Why would you share an image with the rest of the list if you don't want to hear what they

Re: PUG Commentary - Royos, Robb, Sawyer, Mireles

2001-05-03 Thread Carlos Royo
aimcompute wrote: Saddhu by Carlos Royo, Spain - I think the interesting thing here is the face and the fact that your subject apparently is not aware of being photographed, due to the long focal length. I don't know if this was a crop or not... I feel there may be a little too much

Re: May PUG comments for Flaider, Borgden, Maytola, Cotty

2001-05-03 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Jaume Lahuerta wrote: Dan Maytola's Different Times: I also hate grey days, specially the really overcast ones, when there is a big difference when metering the sky and the subject, and one never knows how to shot (it happened to me this weekend). The sculpture is really attractive, and it

RE: OT: Boz's e-mail address

2001-05-03 Thread Rodger Whitlock
On Wed, 2 May 2001 at 15:52:50 -0500, Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Free Agent should work pretty well as an e-mail client, as well as a usenet newsreader and it's free too. Free Agent only does outgoing email, not incoming. The great advantage to Pegasus is that among free mail

Subject: Re: Subject: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer
Albano said: Thanks for your comment... You're most very welcome!! And I suppose you enjoyed all the great kid's photography available in this month's pug... Oh, of course I did! I just realised that I didn't include any of the kids shots (except for Bill Robb's) in my list of favourites

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Stan Halpin
Bucky wrote: I agree with you that honest critique is healthy and useful. Rude critique, however, is not. It is a trivial task to convey useful feedback without being contemptuous (This is just a typical, amateurish photograph, something just barely worthy of a beginner photographer).

Re: What lens is this?

2001-05-03 Thread Mark Roberts
Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: KEH has two of the following: 70-210 F4-5.6 TAKUMAR F AUTO FOCUS (49) Is this the sharp and highly-regarded autofocus F 70-210? I've never seen this lens listed as Takumar. I've never handled the 70-210 lens, so don't know whether it says Takumar

Re: Unsolicited May PUG Comments

2001-05-03 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 3 May 2001 19:58:09 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also one of my top favorites. I have always though it to be very difficult to make a captivating image out of a large scene night shot. You succeeded admirably. Thanks, Ed. I appreciate that. Later, Gary - This message is from

Re: About pug commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 3 May 2001 19:27:03 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me, too Shel. But how long would I have survived as a teacher if I had always said exactly what I thought grin? Less than a week? :-) Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Bob Blakely
Honest, constructive criticism is most helpful. Dishonest (as in it's great when it ain't) or non-constructive (as in I think it's amateurish vs. some actual suggestion for change) appraisals are useless. Also, this is not a class wherein we are trying to weed out the weak or prod the lazy

Re: May PUG question for Brian Campbell

2001-05-03 Thread bc
On 1 May 2001, at 11:52, Ernest Alejandria wrote: Hi Brian, Great photograph. Copper Seas should be the standard picture the British Columbia Board of Tourism ought to utilize in enticing visitors to your neck of the wood. I'm curious about the technical details you employed in taking

Re: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread bc
On 1 May 2001, at 11:57, Peifer, William [OCDUS] wrote: Brian Campbell, Copper Seas. Very colorful shot, and very peaceful feel. This is among my favorite landscapes this month. I'll bet this would look stunning if blown up and framed. Thanks, William, the print does look better than the

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread LEDMRVM
In a message dated 5/3/2001 7:15:34 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Despite your last comment about camera clubs, you could be a damned good *photography club* judge! Ed Actually - that is not harsh criticism, it is just plain boorish behavior. Ad hominim(sp?)?)

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread LEDMRVM
I see a trend going here as well. Those who have been to some kind of formalized training seem to accept that a contemptuous style of critique is acceptable and normal. Those that have not, do not see it that way. That kind of style is usually attributed to those who are

Re: PUG Commentaries the Pub Atmosphere

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Gerald Cermak wrote: I can't imagine walking into your neighborhood Pub and saying 'Chris, your looking especially fat and bald today. You been overeating again? I thought you had that problem under control. You know your round shape really does things to emphasize

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread Shel Belinkoff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've met Shel in person and don't think there is a nasty bone in his body. But that was during the day. In the dark of night, beneath the full moon, and when the north wind howls ... I used to enjoy viewing the PUG and seeing what people are doing. Now it's

PZ1-p multiple exposures

2001-05-03 Thread Nick Snowdon
I am trying to figure out the best way to take multiple exposures quickly. When I use the multiple exposure option it basically disables the consecutive photograph option. If I have to press the shutter release for each exposure it will take longer than I have. Anyone have any ideas? Nick -

Re: June PUG

2001-05-03 Thread Steve Larson
Wheatfield wrote: As long as the picture isn't of a duck... You have a problem with ducks?G Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax

Re: PUG Commentary - John Mason's Night Train

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 3 May 2001, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm starting to feel that way as well, and I wonder how well served we are by these assigned critiques or comments. In what way? Could you elaborate upon this? Thanks! chris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread aimcompute
Yes Bob! You're revealing a rarely seen side of yourself. ;-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:27 PM Subject: Re: About PUG Commentaries Har! Me talking about diplomacy! That's a hoot! Regards,

Subject: RE: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Tanya Russell Mayer
Bucky wrote: I agree with you that honest critique is healthy and useful. Rude critique, however, is not. It is a trivial task to convey useful feedback without being contemptuous (This is just a typical, amateurish photograph, something just barely worthy of a beginner photographer). All

Re: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 3 May 2001 21:06:33 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That kind of style is usually attributed to those who are formally trained beyond their knowledge. Ed, Consider that line stolen! I know a TON of people like that. :-( Later, Gary - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail

RE: About PUG Commentaries

2001-05-03 Thread Bucky
You've been possessed by the spirit of Wheatfield Willie! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob Blakely Sent: May 3, 2001 13:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: About PUG Commentaries Har! Regards, Bob... - This message is from

Re: Subject: PUG comments

2001-05-03 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Thu, 3 May 2001 15:39:57 +1000, Tanya Russell Mayer wrote: I would also like to add that I absolutely loved Mark Roberts Amaryllis, Rob Studdert's Acoustics, Gary Murphy's Two Countries, Chris Mitchell's CreaseCam!, William Robb's Quiet Time, and I think that Albano's Caruchas is very

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