Sigma 400mm f5.6 and infinity focus.

2002-11-28 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Yesterday I went out with the P30t and took a dozen pictures of snow covered tree tops for this years HTML Christmas Card on Kodacolor 200. I discovered something quite interesting. There was half a moon in the sky. I turned the lens to infinity and discovered, to my surprise, that it was out of fo

Re: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film

2002-11-28 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Here we go again. I have pushed C41 quite well, by two stops, and the thread went on for ages. I posted pictures and some folk suggested I hadn't underexposed, or of having metered the subject incorrectly. I spoke to the Tetenal technical people and they agreed, to with a few percent of my calcula

Re[2]: OT? Digital finders?

2002-11-28 Thread Alin Flaider
As much as I like grid screens, I hope Pentax will *never* come up with an LCD superimposed over the viewfinder. The whole point with a SLR as opposed to whatever other camera design is the TTL, optical viewfinder, which needs to be as bright as possible, with as much magnification

Re: RE MZ-SD

2002-11-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Feroze Kistan a écrit: I though that the date back model was called MZS-Quartz .. In Europe the MZ-S is always sold with data back And I believe, as all over the world Michel

Re: A nice baby:)

2002-11-28 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Fred a écrit: Check this out, guys:)) http://www.allegro.pl/show_item.php?item=8628799 A monster !!

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Alan Chan
>Interesting. The marks in my lens are radial, ie they go around the lens in a circular pattern and cover basically the whole area of the element. Is this typical of your experience? Yes. What's worse? The FA*200/2.8 I just returned had an ED element (2nd or 3rd, can't be certain by looking fr

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread ernreed2
> > On Thursday, November 28, 2002, Dan Scott wrote: > Not all Americans Frank. The closest thing to meat my wife, son, and I > ate today was the milk and butter in the mashed potatoes. Which were > very good by the way. > No turkey at my house. Also no overeating, no extra relatives, and no p

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Mann
Alan Chan wrote: > I can tell you that the cleaning marks could be performed by the Pentax > factory. No, I am no insane. Most of my Pentax lenses were bought brand > new from Japan, HK, Canada or US. Some of them do show hand-cleaning marks > inside. Interesting. The marks in my lens are radial

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Mann
Herb Chong wrote: > what if it has been disassembled and not put back together right? That thought had crossed my mind. It might be interesting to find out what it'd cost to have it checked and fixed if necessary. But I'd have to be 100% certain that the lens is supposed to be sharper than my

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Mann
J. C. O'Connell wrote: > DSLRs use smaller sensors than 24 X 36 mm 35mm film does. > Thus, for a given angle of view, they use shorter focal length > lenses. Shorter lenses give better depth of field. More DOF is not always better! Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread David A. Mann
Chet wrote: > It goes back to something I was wondering about earlier when I noticed > that the SMC 300 is marked to focus to 300 feet before infinity; the M* > and A* dropped to 150 feet before infinity; and the F* has dropped to 60 > (or 80?) feet before infinity. That would be due to the amoun

Re: OT: Stupid Windows question

2002-11-28 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 01:41 PM, Cotty wrote: OS 8 ??? Ancient history! I run 9.1 and even that's old now! But stable, especially under pressure. Please have a look at a modern machine running 9.X or Ten (OS X) if you can. Ask the operator what the stability is li

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Michael Cross
Dan, So tell me about this Jupiter-9. Is this a K-mount lens? Michael Cross Dan Scott wrote: On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 07:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: Haven't received a message in a couple of hours. I know all the Americans are eating turkey. What about the rest of the world

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 07:49 PM, frank theriault wrote: Haven't received a message in a couple of hours. I know all the Americans are eating turkey. What about the rest of the world? :-) -curious frank Not all Americans Frank. The closest thing to meat my wife, son, and I at

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Fred
>>> If you didn't mind extending your test, what happens at around 35 >>> meters, which would be within the focal range of the A*300 (with >>> depth of field effect) but at infinity for the F*300? >> >> Chet, I'm glad you were asking Dave that question, because I >> don't understand the question

Re: Thanksgiving

2002-11-28 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 05:07 PM, Lon Williamson wrote: And thank you for your PDML posts. You, Cotty, and Cassleberry routinely make me laugh and learn at the same time. -Lon Thank you. Dan

Re: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I've had "bugs" down under. They seem to be kin to what we call Florida lobsters, the kind without claws. In any case, they taste very good. Paul frank theriault wrote: > > Paul Jones wrote: > > > Those little ones dont really taste like anything. > > Agreed. Like eating pencil erasers - the s

Re: Speaking of turkeys...

2002-11-28 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, November 28, 2002, at 03:08 PM, McRae, Max MS wrote: The birds proved quite difficult to get really close to and I never got my male in full display before they all wandered off under a fence into another property. A fascinating creature the turkey...hideously ugly and yet comp

Re: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Jones
> Frank wrote; > >Somehow, I think you're talking about something a whole lot different. > > Sure are, to give you an idea, this model of a prawn is 1:1... > http://www.glenn.com.au/big_prawn.htm > You could feed a small nation off that!

how is the HP Scanjet 7400c?

2002-11-28 Thread Gaurav Aggarwal
hi all, is the HP Scanjet 7400c scanner with the included adapter for scanning negatives, slides any good? i want to use it for hobby/amateur use and scan some of my slides. any special tips to get the most out of it? thanks! gaurav __

RE: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread Simon King
Frank wrote; >Somehow, I think you're talking about something a whole lot different. Sure are, to give you an idea, this model of a prawn is 1:1... http://www.glenn.com.au/big_prawn.htm :-) Simon -Original Message- From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 29 N

RE: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread Shaun Canning
You'd love it Frank. The Bugs are like small crayfish (lobsters), and the yabbies are just freshwater prawns. Crayfish are lobster, and prawns are shrimp, only much bigger, and they shouldn't taste like old socks. If they do, you take them back to the guy who sold them too you, and assault him with

Re: OT? Digital finders?

2002-11-28 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
My N80 has this (same finder). It is done with a LCD overlay, along with the AF sensor indicators. The lines are wide and distracting. One would not want them on unless they were really needed. The problem is that they are turned on and off via a custom function and that makes it cumbersome to togg

Re: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film

2002-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film > Made a bonehead mistake today. Shot 4 rolls of > film at ISO 100 (mostly flash), Problem was the > last roll was ISO 400 film ( Fuji NPH). Should > I be okay with the 2 stop overexposure on the last >

RE: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Shaun Canning
Heh...Heh...you northerners! The only slimy part is the oysters, but that's half the fun. The other stuff should all be crisp to the bite, and sweet to the taste. If it isn't, then you definitely know where you'll be spending the rest of the day...'driving the porcelain bus'...if you get my drift.

Re: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Paul Jones wrote: > Those little ones dont really taste like anything. Agreed. Like eating pencil erasers - the sauce is obviously to "kill the taste". > > There pretty non-invasive if there fresh and there usualy frozen at sea to > keep them fresh. There not like Oysters etc etc which seem t

Re: Turkey Test - Throw another shrimp on the barby mate!

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Jones
> Nope, never had prawns, at least not ~your~ type of prawns. Had shrimp, those > puny little frozen things that you dip into some sort of tomatoey "sea food > sauce" out of a jar. Tolerable, but not among my faves. Those little ones dont really taste like anything. > Sounds like if I ate thos

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Hmmm: I think I've called you "Shawn" at least twice tonight. Sorry, S-h-a-u-n! -frank frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Shawn, > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Shawn, Nope, never had prawns, at least not ~your~ type of prawns. Had shrimp, those puny little frozen things that you dip into some sort of tomatoey "sea food sauce" out of a jar. Tolerable, but not among my faves. Somehow, I think you're talking about something a whole lot different. So

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Hey, Jeff, Biting my tongue on this one... Went to school with Ms. Ducros (the "moron" utterer), BTW. Back then she was known as "Francie", not Francoise. Hearing her name constantly for the better part of a week didn't do it, then it clicked in when I saw her pic in the paper on Monday. Yup

RE: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film

2002-11-28 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I was thinking along the same lines. Since overexposure tends to pump up the contrast, I should be OK since NPH is a low contrst film to begin with. And yes, it's amazing how much you can correct for in scanning/photoshop processing. I think I'll go with standard C41 processing after all. I do all

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Very carefully, 'cause they are cranky beasts, and their beaks are real sharp! -frank Shaun Canning wrote: > How do you get them in the pipe? > -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Alan Chan
Oops... I mean F*300/4.5, not FA*400/5.6 which I have never had. regards, Alan Chan Unlikely. I stripped one of this lens few years ago and there was no chance for error. As long as the elements were in correct order, it would be as good as new. __

Re: OT: Stupid Windows question

2002-11-28 Thread Alan Chan
Well, the reason I want to switch from W98 I'm currently running is that I have to reboot to many times a day. Usually when I'm about to save my work. So I want something more stable. 2k Pro is certainly much better, if not perfect. regards, Alan Chan __

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Alan Chan
what if it has been disassembled and not put back together right? Unlikely. I stripped one of this lens few years ago and there was no chance for error. As long as the elements were in correct order, it would be as good as new. regards, Alan Chan __

RE: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Shaun Canning
How do you get them in the pipe? Cheers Shaun Canning Archaeology Department La Trobe University Bundoora, Victoria, 3086. Phone: 0414-967 644 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 29 November 2002 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Jones
> Not to worry about sarcasm. Turkeys are ugly, ungainly, and unbelievably > stupid. However, when smoked for about 5 hours over hickory chips, they are > also unbelievably delicious. Never had smoked turkey, we usually roast it in Australia and probaly the only time i have Turkey is on xmas da

Re: What a rush

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Jones
I should send you a Pentax 645 or Mamiya 7 slide :) - Original Message - From: "Simon King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 29, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: What a rush > I've got to let this out... > > Got my first roll of NPC 160 back today. I'd used it for

Re: Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread Bill Owens
> > >Never tried prawns. > You may know them as "shrimp". Same thing, except they're bigger and tastier > in Australia. > > I really had to bite my tongue when we had an American describe what a > turkey was. I mean really. Come to think of it, better stop now must > ...resist ...sarcasm Not

Re: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film

2002-11-28 Thread Bill Owens
I'm probably not someone to answer this question, but here goes. My understanding is that C41 cannot really be pushed or pulled with satisfactory results. However the latitude of most C41 films can handle overexposure better than under. If it were me, I'd process it normally and use Photoshop fo

What a rush

2002-11-28 Thread Simon King
I've got to let this out... Got my first roll of NPC 160 back today. I'd used it for some portrait/Christmas card shots I'd taken of our son. Wow! For me, this is what it's all about. The feeling you get when the shots are better than you expected, it was *fantastic*! All the talk of f stops and h

Re: Is it possible to "pull" C41 film

2002-11-28 Thread Thomas Heide Clausen
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 21:21:59 -0500 "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Made a bonehead mistake today. Shot 4 rolls of > film at ISO 100 (mostly flash), Problem was the > last roll was ISO 400 film ( Fuji NPH). Should > I be okay with the 2 stop overexposure on the last > roll or is the

Turkey Test

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Haven't received a message in a couple of hours. I know all the Americans are eating turkey. What about the rest of the world? :-) -curious frank -- "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer

OT: Firkin pubs (was Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Walkden
>> > Does Bruce's Breweries still exist? I remember frequenting the Frog and >> > Firkin > Where IS one? > I have a small replica Frog and Firkin pub sign I hang up above my > wine rack. > Got in England a couple of years ago. > I'd like to visit one, if for nothing more than to add to some of the

Re: Pentax Moribund? Methinks not

2002-11-28 Thread Paul Jones
> What's the feeling on the M 35mm f2.8? Its not that sharp, the K35/3.5 blows it away.

Re: Pentax Moribund? Methinks not

2002-11-28 Thread Lon Williamson
Cotty wrote, in part: > With the working MX in the bag sits a Tok 17 f3.5 (the old kind), a M 35 > 2.8, a M 50 1.7, and a Tok 90 2.5 macro. She loves the 35mm. It seems like every time 35mm primes come up around here everyone raves about the 35mm f2.0 lenses. What's the feeling on the M 35mm f2.

Re: Thanksgiving

2002-11-28 Thread Lon Williamson
And thank you for your PDML posts. You, Cotty, and Cassleberry routinely make me laugh and learn at the same time. -Lon Dan Scott wrote: > > This is a day most Americans will spend with family and friends and, > while gorging themselves on traditional foods, reflect on their extreme > good fort

Re: Why I won't be buying an MZ-S

2002-11-28 Thread Lon Williamson
What follows is a long, dreary MX appraisal from yours truely. It was asked for, but I think these folks are just "being nice." Review after their comments. Now mind you, folks, I've ALWAYS had an unreasonable lust for KX bodies. I have 4 of them now and had 0 of them in the 70s, 80s, and about

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>> > Does Bruce's Breweries still exist? I remember frequenting the Frog and >> > Firkin > >Where IS one? >I have a small replica Frog and Firkin pub sign I hang up above my >wine rack. >Got in England a couple of years ago. >I'd like to visit one, if for nothing more than to add to some of the >ph

Re: IR mark and chromatic aberration

2002-11-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Nov 2002 at 13:25, andre wrote: > I noticed that the IR (infra-red) mark on Takumar lenses were > generally closer to infinity with newer designs (50/1.4 8-elements > being an exception). Does it mean that a lens with an IR mark closer > to infinity is better corrected for axial chromati

Re: OT? Digital finders?

2002-11-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Nov 2002 at 19:28, Cotty wrote: > Indeed, this is one thing that the D60 lacks. The D100 allows a very > useful grid to be switched on in a sort of overlay method. Great for > landscapes and whatnot. Pentax bods reading this? Get a grid!! This is interesting, obviously it would utilize an

Re: Happy Thanksgiving-was: Pentax Moribund? Methinks Not

2002-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Mike, Well, being Canadian, we beat you Americans to the punch - our Thanksgiving is in early October. We have turkey, too, and even football (Canadian Football, that is). No Pilgrims, though... Our Thanksgiving isn't nearly as big a deal as it is for you guys, but hell, a long weekend is a

Re: Digital vs film, an authorized point of view

2002-11-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Albano wrote: > Interesting article... > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/like-it-is.shtml I haven't read it yet. But the problem I have with this guiy is that when he says he is comparing film to digital he is in reality testing the quality of his scanner compared to digital capture

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > If the subject size is kept the same on the film (reproduction > ratio), then DOF will also be the same at any given aperture, no > matter what format you use. True. But that was not was I was getting at. I was talking about the same angle of view from the same shooting distance

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Cheers Blakely, I aim to please, but my email is hardly vitriol. If this is about a US holiday, sorry, then again, why are you here instead of with family and eating and drinking and shooting? Moreover, it was a comment by a Canadian to a Canadian anyhow and this is an international group, not a

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE... > William wrote: > > > Reproduction ratio is how large the subject is on the film, not > > the print. > > > Then we agree... More than likely. I suspect there might be a difference in semantics is all.

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE... > William wrote: > > > > If you shoot the same subject at the same subject size (angle > > of view) with the same subject camera distance at the same > > aperture but with differnt focal lengths, you'll g

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > Reproduction ratio is how large the subject is on the film, not > the print. Then we agree... Pål

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Pål Jensen
Butch wrote: > As a photofinisher I must disagree. Technically only 1 point is in actual > focus, everything else is increasingly out of focus (circle of confusion). > So as you enlarge further, less area is perceived to be in focus. The point in focus will be equally less sharp with magnificat

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE... > > Depth of field is a factor of reproduction ratio and aperture. > > Focal length doesn't enter into the equation. > > > No. DOF has everything to do with focal lenght. Reproduction ration doesn't eneter

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Pål Jensen
William wrote: > > If you shoot the same subject at the same subject size (angle > of view) with the same subject camera distance at the same > aperture but with differnt focal lengths, you'll get different > DOF. This is the effect we are discussing here. > > What you are describing is impossibl

Re: electra studio flash

2002-11-28 Thread Feroze Kistan
tried that of course, got a lot of music hits, and lots of sites where they selling them. I needed to find more product info Feroze - Original Message - From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:31 PM Subject: RE: electra studio flas

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Pål Jensen Subject: Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE... > If you shoot the same subject at the same subject size (angle of view) with the same subject camera distance at the same aperture but with differnt focal lengths, you'll get different DOF. This is the e

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread gfen
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Bruce Rubenstein wrote: > be produced. Hence my comment about a moribund brand. I think the only way > to keep this group focused is to have the resident lunatic run around naked, > setting himself on fire. As the lone Nikon user in a world of Pentax... well, should we start a

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Keith Whaley
Bob Walkden wrote: > > Hi, > > > Does Bruce's Breweries still exist? I remember frequenting the Frog and > > Firkin Where IS one? I have a small replica Frog and Firkin pub sign I hang up above my wine rack. Got in England a couple of years ago. I'd like to visit one, if for nothing more than

Re[3]: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, > Does Bruce's Breweries still exist? I remember frequenting the Frog and > Firkin there are still some Firkin pubs around but I don't think they're owned by Bruce's anymore. Haven't been into one in years. I remember going to one somewhere near Waterloo once with a friend who wasn't familiar

Re: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Butch Black
Close. DOF is determined by a combination of focal length and diaphragm opening diameter (aperture). All 150mm lenses @ f8 have the SAME dof (providing for minor variations because of varying lens designs). It doesn't matter if the coverage of the lens is for 24x36mm or 6x7cm or 4x5in. 150mm is

Speaking of turkeys...

2002-11-28 Thread McRae, Max MS
Title: Speaking of turkeys... Turkeys were introduced to New Zealand as domesticated birds with the English settlers, and inevitably some escaped and formed feral, self maintaining flocks all over the country. Just yesterday, I stopped on my way home from work to shot a flock on a dairy farm

RE: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Rob Studdert
On 28 Nov 2002 at 12:12, Herb Chong wrote: > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >From 36*24mm, you need to enlarge roughly 5 times to get a 5*7. > From 24*16mm - surely you need to enlarge by 7 times to get the same > 5*7? > > What has this to do with pixels?< > > there is an a

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Blakely
Dobo, I respectfully request that you reserve your vitriol for tomorrow. Regards, Bob "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!" - Benjamin Franklin From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You would

Re: OT More Windows questions

2002-11-28 Thread Feroze Kistan
Ok, maybe I misunderstood you Feroze - Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 8:30 PM Subject: Re: OT More Windows questions > Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >There is a driver to read a NT

Re[2]: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>12 pints of Dogbloater and a Prawn Dhansak at the Taj and Cotty'll be >gassing too... Bob, Does Bruce's Breweries still exist? I remember frequenting the Frog and Firkin in W11 way back in the early 80s. Two pints at the time: Bullfrog and Dogbolter. When Prince Charles married Lady Di they br

Digital vs film, an authorized point of view

2002-11-28 Thread Albano Garcia
Interesting article... http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/like-it-is.shtml Regards = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Norman Baugher
My dog has three ears. Now I'm sure that my fridge light stays on... On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 15:12:21 -0500 Brad Dobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This that Americanese?

RE: HA!

2002-11-28 Thread Len Paris
Very good. I too enjoy Thanksgiving. It's the only time I can tell people to "get stuffed". Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: HA! > > > So this mother turkey says t

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Keith Whaley
Hi Dan, It's inappropriatesness is only in relation to public exposure. WE know what we mean, and WE know there's no disrespect there, but the others who are more simple-minded may NOT know, and think it's okay to 'make fun of' the mentally disabled. That would be sad... I'll admit, I have cracked

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Brad Dobo
MC? This that Americanese? Funny how I could predict those who would respond because of their uh, 'attitudes' and lack of filters, as they don't want to miss a chance to comment on me. Have fun children! - Original Message - From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Brad Dobo
You would William. At the expense of others. - Original Message - From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38 > > - Original Message - > From: Dan Scott > Subject: Re: pe

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Brad Dobo
Comment at bottom: - Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:15 AM Subject: Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38 > Comment at bottom: > > Brad Dobo wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan Sco

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Stan Halpin
I noticed some Old Engine Oil on the shelf at my local booze store - I passed on it in favor of Bass Ale and some Pinkus Organic (?) from someplace in Bavaria I believe. I hope our guests are willing to experiment a bit! This is not Bud Lite . . . I'll have a small Sheeps Dip after the turkey dinn

Re[2]: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, 12 pints of Dogbloater and a Prawn Dhansak at the Taj and Cotty'll be gassing too... --- Bob Thursday, November 28, 2002, 3:23:39 PM, you wrote: >>> And I'll be sat back with a tepid pint of Old Stumpy Firkin's Dog Breath >>> Extra Strong brewed in a Chelsea Pensioner's coffin > That's

HA!

2002-11-28 Thread Bob Blakely
So this mother turkey says to her misbehaving chicks, "If your father could see you now, he'd roll over in his gravy!" Regards, Bob "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!" - Benjamin Franklin

Re: OT: Stupid Windows question

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>And for Cotty: >> Not being funny, or provocative, or abusive. You asked >> a valid question and I will give you a valid answer. >> >> Macintosh OS. > >That's not an option. I'm sitting in fron of a PC - that's the >main reason. >And the other is that MacOS 8 on the old Mac we have at work is

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>>> And I'll be sat back with a tepid pint of Old Stumpy Firkin's Dog Breath >>> Extra Strong brewed in a Chelsea Pensioner's coffin > >That's the difference between the PDML and the LUG...on the LUG they're >always gassing about single-malts. Here we have Cotty and his Brit >moonshine! Long live t

Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V02 #38

2002-11-28 Thread Norman Baugher
LMAO - next we'll be handing out traffic violations to F1 cars at MC... On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 00:56:47 -0500 Brad Dobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a little inappropriate here.

RE: electra studio flash

2002-11-28 Thread Len Paris
See www.google.com/ enter the words "electra studio flash" and click on the search button. You will be rewarded with many links. Welcome to the Internet. Len --- > -Original Message- > From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 12:54 PM > To:

Re: OT? Digital finders?

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>On the better cameras, is there a function to change the look of the finder? >I'm thinking it would be easy to add several different finder screen looks >to the software to accommodate different conditions and users. >Got this idea while skimming the "Photo Tips" on the inside of a Kodak film >pac

Re: Pentax Moribund? Methinks not

2002-11-28 Thread Cotty
>> >> >> Urp. Hi Mike! > > >Enthused greetings, good Sir. I trust you are well and hale? I'm glad to >find you here despite your recent migration to the realm of pixelation. >--Mike Yer wot lad? Eeeeh, thee don't 'alf talk rubbish. Any road, dunno much about all this Pentax lark - all I know i

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Chet
If you didn't mind extending your test, what happens at around 35 meters, which would be within the focal range of the A*300 (with depth of field effect) but at infinity for the F*300? Chet, I'm glad you were asking Dave that question, because I don't understand the question - . (Sorry.) Fre

RE: Pentax Moribund? Methinks Not

2002-11-28 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Mike Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I wonder if that's why > Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday. More likely, it's > because a) I don't > have to buy or decorate anything, and b) I get to eat a > richly prepared > feast and watch football on telev

RE: DOF in DSLRs - HELP ME PLEASE...

2002-11-28 Thread Rob Brigham
No, but the amount of enlargement is determined by the size of the sensor. Its now sounding as though enlargement isnt the main deciding factor in DOF, which goes against what I have been repeatedly told in the past. But then why does changing the format change the COC in fcalc? This is VERY conf

Off and away

2002-11-28 Thread Mike Johnston
I'll be traveling until Saturday, but will see you all then. Happy Thanksgiving. And go Packers. --Mike "The life of an intellectual should be a permanent reproach to the idea that knowledge has to be handed down to us from authority." (unattributed: unidentified TV talk show guest) ***

Re: OT: Last class

2002-11-28 Thread brooksdj
Thanks for the tip Paul Dave I load 120 starting with the end that comes off the reel first -- the > end that's not taped. I then let the paper fall away as I load. When I > get to the end of the film strip, I pull the tape off rather than try to > cut the film. > Paul

Re: Re: A new toy

2002-11-28 Thread akozak
I also have Super A and it is very nice camera, indeed. Metering is accurate, I take mostly slides so it is good test! I use it as second body (PZ1 is first). Alek t really should not have been left out of the Super >> Program/A. > >Oops - "...out of the Program Plus/A." > >Fred >

Re: OT: Stupid Windows question

2002-11-28 Thread Chet
Hi Maciej, I've been freelancing in book production for over 25 years and file imaging for some 14 years. The particular OS is not important. In terms of importance, the following are the key factors: 1. What your printer (and/or imager) expects to receive 2. Clean postscript or Adobe Acrobat

Re: F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Chet
Hi Dave, If you didn't mind extending your test, what happens at around 35 meters, which would be within the focal range of the A*300 (with depth of field effect) but at infinity for the F*300? Thanks! --Chet I just finished looking over the slides from my 300mm lens test. The test was pe

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Mike Johnston
>> And I'll be sat back with a tepid pint of Old Stumpy Firkin's Dog Breath >> Extra Strong brewed in a Chelsea Pensioner's coffin That's the difference between the PDML and the LUG...on the LUG they're always gassing about single-malts. Here we have Cotty and his Brit moonshine! Long live the Pro

Re: Thanksgiving Tomorrow

2002-11-28 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >It seems that anywhere they have been reintroduced they've thrived. When I was a youngster back in the 50's - 60's, it was unusual to see any in the wild. Now they're becoming really common. Bill< they have become a nuisance sometimes. have ye

Re: Foveon is the Future

2002-11-28 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >What I found peculiar was the section discussing chromatic aberrations, given the lack of test detail one would wonder if it was more a function of the lens and/or angle of incidence on the sensor rather than a direct function of the sensor (as

F*300mm f/4.5 test

2002-11-28 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >However if I hold it "just right" I can see what may be cleaning marks on an internal element (I purchased this lens secondhand). Maybe thats causing a bit of softness. Would other owners of this lens care to comment?< what if it has been di

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