Re: 5n Bummer? - delete this thread

2003-02-01 Thread Bob Rapp
in the "bin". - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: Re: 5n Bummer? - delete this thread > This message is devoid of any content, just like this thread... > >

SCOOP: A screw-mount body for matrix-metering !

2003-02-01 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
No, this is not the PMA. But merely, I made the test of my method of transformation of an M / K lens applied to an objective to screw-mount gone up on the MZ-S with a adaptor-K THAT FUNCTIONS!! To see here: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/multizone.htm Michel http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg /

Re: Ot: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread Fred
> just a warning, I'm normally good around these things but this new > set went tru an apple like it was butter, and almost took my > finger with it. 2 stitches to patch it up :-( Well, then you aren't to be trusted around sharp lenses, so you must sell off any that you have very cheaply to the re

Vs: 5n Bummer?

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Leica is not in a very good financial state. It is not easy to survive by making something like 10.000 rangefinder cameras and 5.000 SLRs a year - the Japanese produce this in less than a week. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkupe

Vs: 5n Bummer?

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Smallness is one of the reasons for its success. Uncomplicated interface is another. The viewfinder is comparable to other cameras of its class but the display should be at the bottom - like the MZ-S has. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -

Vs: Vs: LX Questions

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
There is no reason why the MX should not be durable. The small size is not against it. Actually it is about the same size as a Leica M and they are supposed to be indestructible - but I have had some problems with my M6 (two problems in 17 years) - it is being repaired even right now. l owned th

Vs: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Not quite. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: John Whicker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Päivä: 01. helmikuuta 2003 1:18 Aihe: Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR > >Pål

Re: Pentax matrix metering [Was: 31 and 35mm lenses tested in Germanmagazine]

2003-02-01 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Pentax better than C*., N*. and M*. !! Pentax matrix metering is available for ALL Pentax, even the oldest lenses, with a little modification. Here: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg/Photo/multizone.htm Michel http://perso.wanadoo.fr/krg /

Re: Goodbye!

2003-02-01 Thread Cotty
Sorry I'm late on this, Robert. The Digests have become infrequent and sporadic again, and I'm unfortunately missing quite a bit. Can be a blessing in disguise though ;-) Best of luck for the future, Cotty Oh, swipe me! He paints with light! http://www.maca

Re: Vs: LX Questions

2003-02-01 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: Vs: LX Questions > Mark Roberts posted, among other things: > > >> I read an interview with the then Asahi boss, Minoru Suzuki, who > explained in > > >> detail

Re: Cars -, not politics.

2003-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley
Interestingly, if you're over 30, the big S-Class Benz is still attractive, for those with the bucks. A LOT of folks love those older Mercedes and appreciate the fact that there is another company out there besides M-B able and willing to supply a comparable car. I'd bet the Lexus doesn't require

Re: Ot: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread frank theriault
hope it wasn't your "shooting" finger! cheers, frank Brendan wrote: > just a warning, I'm normally good around these things > but this new set went tru an apple like it was butter, > and almost took my finger with it. 2 stitches to patch > it up :-( > > _

Re: Shoot Hotel Room Interiors?

2003-02-01 Thread John Whicker
Rob Studdert wrote: > Hi John, > > Fisheye shots are fine for shooting crowded interiors particularly if a 15mm > won't cut it. A rectilinear corrected 16mm fisheye shot will provide the > equivalent horizontal angle of view of a 7.5mm lens in the 35mm format. If it > needs to be presented on film

Re: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
Yes, there is a vast difference in quality. Especially in those Japanese and American cars that are assembled on the same factory in California such as the Chevrolet Malibu and the Toyota Avalon. Also everybody knows the Nissan SUV is better than the Ford SUV that is built in the same plant in Mich

Re: Injured deer at my home

2003-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley
Hi Mike. I purposefully took some time to think this thru before I answered you, so I was actually thinking about my answer instead of just knee-jerk responding to some of your comments. Mike Johnston wrote: > > Warning! Rant mode on. > > > Oh, no in this country, Pål. We pretend they're all th

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Peter, Is there no governing body or organisation for pro's in your country? Around here you have to join the PPSA (Professional Photographers of Southern Africa) to get that status. To join you have to have a 3 year technikon diploma or have served under a registered pro as an appie. You still

lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Another dumb question: Are you supposed to use a lens hood when shooting indoors or at night, or is the hood only to prevent flare from sunlight? Feroze

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread John Whicker
Feroze Kistan wrote: > > Are you supposed to use a lens hood when shooting indoors or at night, or is > the hood only to prevent flare from sunlight? Hi Feroze, The simple answer is to use the lens hood for every single shot. Always. I'm not sure what the complex answer is. I'm just a simple

Re: Injured deer at my home

2003-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Keith the problem I see is that we are all to quick to put animals out of > their misery. It's too damned easy to say hell just put a bullet in their > head. With a little effort these animals can live a normal life. With a little effort? What does that mean? If yo

Re: Re: OT: Frustrating

2003-02-01 Thread David Brooks
Sounds much as i do except we have a dryer at the school.The scratched negs are all from the batch i had taken in last year to have 5x7's made for a portfolio.Must have happened at the lab or maybe saomething i did. Scan time and blurage for those ones now:) Dave Begin Original Message ---

Re: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley
T Rittenhouse wrote: > [...] > GWB's speach seems to have achived its intended purpose as gasoline prices > around here jumped 10 cents a gallon yesterday. And, what purpose was that? keith > Ciao, > Graywolf > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto

Re: Ot: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread David Brooks
Must run in the neigbourhood.I wacked my left index finger with the back end of a 2 lb hatchet Thursday.Did not go for stitches but, ouch. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:10:49 -0500 (EST) To: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Can't Beat This Deal

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
I see that Klaus Garcia is promoting his $40 ME Super CLA on ebay again. He mentioned something about a journalism class in one of his emails so I assume he is a college student. He has worked on three of my ME/ME Supers and they came back working like new again. Here is what he did on the l

OT: Also ...

2003-02-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
K300/4 -- rough external, the tiniest flaw in the front coating. $125 Aetna Tele Rokunar 300/5.6 T-mount (no adapter included). $15

For the LX lover

2003-02-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3004983669&category=15240

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 29 Jan 2003 at 15:12, Feroze Kistan wrote: > Another dumb question: > Are you supposed to use a lens hood when shooting indoors or at night, or is the > hood only to prevent flare from sunlight? Any light source outside the frame can promote flare (and inside the frame of course), so the best

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
It's not a dumb question and I hope this isn't a dumb answer. I always use a lens hood. SMC is great, but using a lens hood also helps to reduce lens flare. It also keeps rain off the front element and protects the front of the lens from incidental contact with hard elements, unless, of cour

OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread CBWaters
I bought a new color cartridge for my Color 740 last weekend. I've been printing a lot this week, trying to figure out why all my prints look washed-out. You may recall I was asking about color management. I've printed about eight 5X7 photos and a few smaller ones and now the ink's low again. I

Re: OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread David Brooks
Cory. This is were the individual tanks come in handy.I get about 48 8x10's from a full head on the Canon S 800.Works out to about 4-4.50 per sheet.(Canadian$) I found Kodak paper did not work well with this printer,but am happy with the Canon Photo Paper Pro and Ilfords Classic Gloss and Classi

Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
To raise gasoline prices for 10 cents. Oil companies and producers can line their pockets comfortably. And GWB is an oilman. I am quite sure that the GWB administration is not going to compensate in any way the increased fuel prices that consumers all over the world have to pay. Or for the reces

Image stabilizers on Pentax

2003-02-01 Thread Matti Etelapera
>From the Minolta users group: " But, just in case you didn't know, a UK magazine ("Outdoor Photography") quotes Sigma as saying that the new 80-400mm F4/F5.6 Optical Stabilised lens will be made available in both Minolta AF and Pentax mounts later this year. Canon and Nikon Mount versions should

OT: Sad news

2003-02-01 Thread CBWaters
The NASA Space Shuttle Columbia appears to have broken up on re-entry this morning. The pictures I've seen are eerily similar to the Challenger disaster we've all seen too many times. This was the first space flight for an Israeli Astronaut. God Speed Columbia Cory Waters

OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >I've been printing on Kodak Matte picture paper. Would I be getting markedly better looking prints on a glossy high-end paper? If I get a new printer, (~$100-150) should I get another Epson? Cory< my opinion. you are using Kodak paper in an Eps

Up loaded some pictures(on topic,using Pentax gear)

2003-02-01 Thread David Brooks
http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/index.html Added some B&W's to my site. Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada "Art needs to be in a frame.That way we know when the art stops and the wall begins"--Frank Zappa http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign u

Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
Here we go again. These subjects have no place on the PDML. Take them off list or flush them where they belong. On Saturday 01 February 2003 03:43 pm, Raimo Korhonen wrote: > To raise gasoline prices for 10 cents. Oil companies and producers > can line their pockets comfortably. And GWB is an o

Re: Image stabilizers on Pentax

2003-02-01 Thread Pål Jensen
If this information is true it must mean that the KAF3 protocol is embedded in upcoming models or in current ones. Pål - Original Message - From: "Matti Etelapera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 3:42 PM Subject: Image stabilizers on Pent

Re: OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm not sure what the specs of the Epson 740, but your cartridge should be able to produce more than 8 5x7s. I get about 10 to 15 11 x 14s from each color cartridge on my Epson 1200. I don't like Kodak inkjet papers. The best glossy is Epson Premium Photo Paper. Epson Archival Matte is also very ni

Re: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, butabout as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe:PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Ed Matthew
- Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" Subject: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR > Here we go again. These subjects have no place on the PDML. Tak

Re: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Bob Blakely
Well, it's your choice. I have a young son in the army who's already shipped out. I hope we don't see another Hanoi Jane (or Baghdad Mike) or some similar thing rise out of this bullshit to the peril of my son or others due to such idiocy. I watched fools like you help to cause the death of my fel

Re: Vs : LX questions

2003-02-01 Thread Camdir
No. It was in a Norwegian Photo magazine back in 1980 when the LX was first shown. It was clear that the LX was meant as a professional camera as the then Asahi boss talked about how thoroughly the LX was tested and they couldn't afford to release a professional body that hadn't all the fault ir

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Feroze Kistan wrote: > Thanks guys for all the replies. I had assumed hoods are only > for sunlight, can studio lights or household lamps cause flare then? Think of them as "blinders", as on a horse. They will cause *only* light rays coming directly from the framed image to

Re: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
The urge to say several things is very difficult to hold back, so I will just ask you to read your post and think about what it says. Ciao, Graywolf http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto - Original Message - From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday,

Re: OT: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread Pat White
I have a print cutter that's equally dangerous. The last time I wasn't 100% careful and attentive, I had to pick up a bit of fingertip and tape it back on. Now I know why the rotary cutters are so popular. Pat White

Re: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Dear Mr Blakely, The fault does not lie with people who believe war is wrong or that there has to be another solution. The Americans have a habit of invading foreign countries and destroying them, we've lived with that problem for 3 decades thanks to the CIA invlovement in causing the war in South

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Bill, If you are using available light to take and indoor picture, would you not than be limiting the amount of light reaching the film, or is that the intention. How does a camera meter then, does it meter diffrently if you are using a 28mm v/s a 200mm? I might be misunderstanding the concept t

Re: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics,not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed withoutrancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Doug Brewer
I'd like to thank you, Bill, for your reminder that all Americans are evil and deserve all the tragedies that come our way. I'd especially like to thank you for reminding us here on the Pentax list, where we are supposed to celebrate our commonality as people and photographers no matter our nati

RE: Image stabilizers on Pentax

2003-02-01 Thread Rob Brigham
Or just that the pentax version doesn't have the OS? Seriously, I doubt that Sigma would be able to get the specs from Pentax before release. They normally have to pull things apart and work it out for themselves, don't they? Unless all they need from the body is current, and they can get it fro

Re: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
This is getting a little stupid. If it wasn't for America, you'd all be wearing swastikas. And if the Allied powers had held Hitler to the League of Nations disarmnament agreement in the thirties, hundreds of thousands of lives would have been spared. The only thing that prevents a lot of small cou

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
The camera's meter is only concerned with what the lens sees in it's field of view. The meter does not differentiate between a 28mm or a 200mm. The lens hood, on the other hand, blocks extraneous light from striking the lens at angles outside of the lens' field of view. This extraneous ligh

Re: OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread Pat White
On the Epson Stylus Photo 750, I get about 25 8x10s from a color cartridge. I'm not sure about the black cartridge. Pat White

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Ken, Actually I think I have seen it, I have a few pics I took today that seem to have a haze over it. Its in focus and colour is right but it looks like a soft focus filter is on. I had assumed that the UV filter thats currently on the lens would have taken care of that. Feroze - Original

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Bill D. Casselberry
Feroze Kistan wrote: > If you are using available light to take and indoor picture, > would you not than be limiting the amount of light reaching the > film, or is that the intention. Limiting only in the sense that the lens accepts just the light reflected directly from the fr

Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Correct. But what is happening now in the USA? GWB´s statements are alarmingly similar to what Hitler said against Poland in 1939. All the best! Raimo Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho -Alkuperäinen viesti- Lähettäjä: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, bu...

2003-02-01 Thread Rfsindg
Bill was a gracious Canadian on 9/11 and expressed his sympathies to those of us in the USA. As the USA approaches war with Sadam, I see peoples around the world seek ways to avoid the conflict and condemn the USA for threatening to police the world. At these times, I cannot help but reflect

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
Unless I have a particular need for a filter, I don't use one. Most of us aren't going to spend the $50-70 that a good filter costs just to protect our lenses. Your UV filter may have added to your problem if it was one of the cheap off-brand filters. As tough as SMC coating is supposed to b

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
GWB's statements are what the Allieds should have been saying in 1935. Sadaam is easily as evil as Hitler. Sadaam killed his own children. Hitler never did that. Raimo Korhonen wrote: > > Correct. > But what is happening now in the USA? GWB´s statements are alarmingly similar to >what Hitler sai

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Rfsindg
Raimo, Where is your brain? My God, the man invaded Kuwait to steal the oil. He sent Skud missiles at Israel and the Saudi's. He conducted a 10 year (?) war with Iran. If he was your neighbor, you would be looking for a cave to hide in. Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But what

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi Ken, I don't have too much knowledge of filters. This ones is a Hama UV390 C-Haze filter. Isn't that what haze filters are supposed to prevent? Feroze - Original Message - From: "Ken Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Political commentary > Raimo, > Where is your brain? My God, the man invaded Kuwait to steal the oil. He > sent Skud missiles at Israel and the Saudi's. H

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
It's interesting. We've now had at least two dozen posts in regard to the Iraq situation, but not a single comment on the PUG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Raimo, > Where is your brain? My God, the man invaded Kuwait to steal the oil. He > sent Skud missiles at Israel and the Saudi's. He condu

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
His brain is in the right place, Kuwait is not a neighboring state but part of Iraq that was seperated by the british, Sadam was trying to get it back. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Vs: Politica

Putting some Pentax in it (veering off from Re: Political commentary)

2003-02-01 Thread Jostein
Sadly, there is only one valid truism about humanity's history: "The only thing we can learn from our history is that we don't learn anything from our history". Dunno if it is for Dubya's or Saddam's benefit, though... Anyway, they're probably not Pentax users any of them. Wish they had been, b

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
> "ALWAYS use a hood" is sound advice. Or, you could never use a hood. I've done both over the years. Generally, the flare performance of a lens is determined by its coatings. The better the coatings, the less necessary a hood becomes. The worse the coatings, the less a lens hood is going to be

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Peter Smekal
>"ALWAYS use a hood" is sound advice. > Well, that sound clever, but what about the risk for vignetting (or what it's called)? Last autumn I used my LX often together with the M 24/2.8 during a field trip in Greece. Plus a hood I 'thought' was suitable for the lense. Great shots. But ... a lot of

Re: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, but about as valid as any of the crap that is allowed without rancor. WAS: bRe: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Frits Wüthrich
I think, that despite the calls for not discussing issues like this on this list, it is apparently too much asked to refrain from responding for people who feel so strong about the issue discussed, one way or the other. I can understand that, we are all human, although I don't agree. Can we at le

Re: Shit, Crap & Politics, Was:Re: Vs: car shit, not politics, not Pentax, bu...

2003-02-01 Thread Pål Jensen
> 2) The quick criticism that is offered the policeman, but the lack of > appreciation and thanks that is given for the benefits others enjoy from > living in a civilized society. (Why is this? Are you all so shallow that > you don't recognize that you live under the protection of the police

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Feroze Kistan
I can't access the PUG, have been trying since yesterday but all I get is HTML and no pics. I'm waiting till it comes back on. Any ideas wahts wrong? Feroze - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 6:28 PM Subj

Re: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ditto what Herb said. I've tried Kodak papers, called them to discuss issues and finally decided I'd stick with Epson papers for my Stylus Photo and 2000P. I get more than 50 4"X6" glossy prints from one color cartridge on my Stylus Photo. Haven't established a track record for the 2000P as far as

Vs: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Raimo Korhonen
I think my brain is where it used to be. I do not like Saddam Hussein. But he got thrown out of Kuwait. In the war against Iran he got the full support of the USA - and we are suffering the consequences of that. GWB is preaching war against Irag but I think North Korea is more dangerous to us all

Re: Guns, politics, abortion... WAS: Injured deer at my home

2003-02-01 Thread Keith Whaley
Nossir, we don't. keith Mike Johnston wrote: > > > I purposefully took some time to think this thru before I answered > > you, so I was actually thinking about my answer instead of just > > knee-jerk responding to some of your comments. > > Keith, > Thanks for the thoughtful reply, but... > >

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I can access it. I don't know what your problem might be. Feroze Kistan wrote: > > I can't access the PUG, have been trying since yesterday but all I get is > HTML and no pics. I'm waiting till it comes back on. Any ideas wahts wrong? > Feroze > - Original Message - > From: "Paul Stenquis

a Politics list for those who are interested...

2003-02-01 Thread Amita Guha
I am on a politics list, called WWWAC-Politics, which is an offshoot of a web development list called the WWWAC. It was created after 9/11 when people on the webdev list couldn't stop talking about politics. The politics list has since taken on a life of its own. We engage in lively discussions a

Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
> Well, it's your choice. > > I have a young son in the army who's already shipped out. I hope we don't > see another Hanoi Jane (or Baghdad Mike) or some similar thing rise out of > this bullshit to the peril of my son or others due to such idiocy. I watched > fools like you help to cause the dea

Re: OT: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Pat White wrote: The last time I wasn't 100% careful and attentive, I had to pick up a bit of fingertip and tape it back on. Tape, of course! From now on all of my loose body parts are going to be taped back on (no more staples for me). Dan Scott

lensehood and vignetting

2003-02-01 Thread Peter Smekal
I guess I redirect this question - otherwise it will drown in the political discussion: >"ALWAYS use a hood" is sound advice. > Well, that sound clever, but what about the risk for vignetting (or what it's called)? Last autumn I used my LX often together with the M 24/2.8 during a field trip in G

That's It. I'm Gone. Was: Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Ken Archer
The last two years have been nice (most of it anyway) but I have had enough. Cya. On Saturday 01 February 2003 10:17 pm, Mike Johnston wrote: > > Well, it's your choice. > > > > I have a young son in the army who's already shipped out. I hope we > > don't see another Hanoi Jane (or Baghdad Mike)

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Cotty
>> >> Are you supposed to use a lens hood when shooting indoors >or at night, or is >> the hood only to prevent flare from sunlight? If I may offer the list my working practices My lowest common denominator is: if in doubt, use the lenshood. However, it is quite obvious that a lenshood serve

Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Robert Harris
Mike Johnston wrote: So they're about to blow the crap out of Baghdad. How the hell should I know why they're doing it? Oil? Politics? Warmongering? Too much saber-rattling to back down now? Can't find bin Laden and got to take it out on somebody? Christ, I have no idea. But whatever the reason

Re: OT: infomercial knives

2003-02-01 Thread Rfsindg
> On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:03 PM, Pat White wrote: > > > The last time I wasn't 100% careful and attentive, I had to pick up > > a bit of fingertip and tape it back on > > Tape, of course! From now on all of my loose body parts are going to be > taped back on (no more staples

Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Robert Harris wrote: > > > This list has gone to hell again, with the usual ranting and raving and > anti-American nonsense from non-thinking know-nothings. And that's exactly what you posted. More anti-american nonsense from a non-thinking know-nothing. Mike couldn't BEAR the gun discussion. P

Re: Goodbye!

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:39 PM, Robert Soames Wetmore wrote: After exactly three years on this list, I just want to say goodbye as I will be leaving the list for quite some time, and indeed perhaps permanently. Good luck to you Robert. Dan Scott

PUG access, was something else.

2003-02-01 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Feroze Kistan" > I can't access the PUG, have been trying since yesterday but all I get is > HTML and no pics. I'm waiting till it comes back on. Any ideas wahts wrong? > Feroze Hi Feroze, We ran into this from time to time with a couple of viewers to the gal

Re: Vs: Political commentary

2003-02-01 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Raimo, > Where is your brain? My God, the man invaded Kuwait to steal the oil. He I really dont give a toss about this thread, but just a small correction. Iraq invaded Kuwait to stop the 'slant drilling' across the border into Iraqi oil f

Re: Image stabilizers on Pentax

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 09:18 AM, Pål Jensen wrote: If this information is true it must mean that the KAF3 protocol is embedded in upcoming models or in current ones. Pål I thought Sigma was on Pentax's sh*t list and had to reverse engineer their lenses? I can't see Pentax's bene

RE:NYC PDML: 2/22/03?

2003-02-01 Thread Butch Black
Hi; I might be interested, depending on a lot of variables. This is assuming you'll let someone from Connecticut join in the fun BUTCH "Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself" Hermann Hesse (Demian)

Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
> And that's exactly what you posted. More anti-american nonsense from a > non-thinking know-nothing. Mike couldn't BEAR the gun discussion. Poor > baby. But all this mindless crap is okay, as long as it reflects one's > own opinions. Oh, I can bear the gun discussions, Paul. What I can't bear is

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
> Ahh, I started shooting seriously using SMC glass, I didn't know that you > shouldn't shoot into the sun until I met some Canon and Nikon shooters :-) Ditto here, but with Contax T* lenses. --Mike

Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
> Mike Johnston wrote a lengthy political opinion piece. I did NOT write a "lengthy political opinion piece." I defended myself against a bile-spewing, stupidly reasoned, invective-strewn post that referred to me as "Baghdad Mike," called me a twit, and implied that I was somehow (?) endangering

Re: OT: Epson ink use & printing issues

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 08:25 AM, CBWaters wrote: I bought a new color cartridge for my Color 740 last weekend. I've been printing a lot this week, trying to figure out why all my prints look washed-out. You may recall I was asking about color management. I've printed about eight

Re: lens hoods

2003-02-01 Thread Andre Langevin
Just moving onto zooms. Anyone thinking about the mechanics of a zoom lens will have surely pondered that the lenshood of such an optic will have to be a compromise. Now, if you have a 28-70 mm (say), then you will have deduced that the(fixed plastic or metal) hood is really a 28mm hood and nowhere

Heat of the moment...

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Johnston
Hey, I apologize for that "stupidly reasoned" crack I just made. Not appropriate. --Mike

OT: A call to reason

2003-02-01 Thread Butch Black
We're getting vindictive again. On of the strengths of this mailing list has been it's international flavor and broad range of opinions. It's demeaning to get to the point of childish name calling. I'm reminded of the old saying " Opinions are like a**s, everyone has one, and they are most appr

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 04:57 PM, Alan Chan wrote: Imagine a cell phone with a "dial" instead of buttons. :) regards, Alan Chan Cool Dan Scott

Re: Another lens hood question

2003-02-01 Thread John Mustarde
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:27:50 -0600, you wrote: > >I want to put a hood on my FA 100/2.8 macro, 58mm filter thread (I get >aperture ghosts that I don't want). Is there any rule of thumb that >will give me the numbers to evaluate suitable hoods? > >Dan Scott Someone on PDML mentioned a site which

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Chan posted, among other things: Except there is one difference. It doesn't matter how luxurious a Toyota is, it's still a Toyota to most people. In order to capture that market, Toyota invented another brand name called "

Re: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break

2003-02-01 Thread ernreed2
> > Mike Johnston wrote a lengthy political opinion piece. > > > I did NOT write a "lengthy political opinion piece." I defended myself > against a bile-spewing, stupidly reasoned, invective-strewn post that > referred to me as "Baghdad Mike," called me a twit, and implied that I was > somehow (?

A quote (was: Oh, give me a $#%@#$! break)

2003-02-01 Thread Mishka
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the communists and I did not speak out — because I was not a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the C

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread ernreed2
> > On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 07:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Mr Chan posted, among other things: > >> Except there is one difference. It doesn't matter how luxurious a > >> Toyota is, > >> it's still a Toyota to most people. In order to capture that market, > >> Toyota > >> inv

Re: Sad news

2003-02-01 Thread Dan Scott
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 06:35 PM, William Robb wrote: The NASA Space Shuttle Columbia appears to have broken up on re-entry this morning. The pictures I've seen are eerily similar to the Challenger disaster we've all seen too many times. This was the first space flight for an Isr

Re: PMA and Pentax DSLR

2003-02-01 Thread ernreed2
Mr Chan posted: In order to capture that market, > >> Toyota > >> invented another brand name called "Lexus" which was believed to copy > >> Benz > >> in many ways. People don't think the brand PENTAX as a luxury brand, > >> or > >> professional as Canon or Nikon. In order to change the percept

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