Alan wrote:
AC I thought it's the camera sersor which detects the motion and compensates?
No, there's a gyroscope in the lens that detects the direction and
amplitude of the motion and commands the shift of an internal lens
group in the needed direction and amplitude to compensate for the
Amita, what did _your_ ancestor do to get hurled into
the brave new world? Poach the King's deer, perchance?
Amita Guha wrote:
Lon, your ancestor must have hung out with mine! My mom traces her
lineage in a direct line back to Miles Standish. :)
on 07.07.03 14:38, Lukasz Kacperczyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read! Lots of fun :-) Especially TRI-X sentences :-)))
I can only hope you've read it in Polish... ;-)
Of course I have! Great translation - especially Canon BS-D to GOW-NO ;-)))
Hehehehe - that was incredible!!! :-)))
Count me in. I'm liable to purchase both analog and digital
*ist's that use pre-A lenses.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fra: Arnold Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I would be willing to pay a premium for an Asterist D body that would use the full Pentax lens line with typical feature loss. As is, I will wait
Gregory wrote:
The only reason I can think of is bulk, but I don't know how bulky it
would have to be. But if someone came up with an image stabilizing
teleconverter for less than $200, I'd be liable to buy it. I think I'd
like that more than a specific lens.
REPLY:
Pentax have patented an
Frank wrote:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the sales of high end film slr's remaining
pretty steady, despite the incursion of digital?
REPLY:
No. I think sales are down 10% or so if my memory serves me right. hardly dramatic but
significant.
Pål
Alan wrote:
Does that mean they actually produced a small quantity of these products but hide them
somewhere in the company? Would be cool if they just show them in the Pentax museum
and gain some respect. I certainly want to see them knowing that they were capable of
designing such products.
Probably not compatible with older mounts. ;-)
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
do it a few more times at those same settings. you will start seeing a file size
decrease.
Herb
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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 08:13
Subject: Re: Digital Delays?
Matt,
I follow what you are saying, but still
Miles Standish was the Pilgrims' military captain.
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From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Happy 4th of July
Amita, what did _your_ ancestor do to get hurled into
the brave new
A lot of this may depend on how easy (i.e., cheap) it is to co-produce
a digital camera and a film sibling.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Even if film SLR's are steady in sales, most of the RD money is going
into the DSLR's. for this reason, I think that most of the flagships
are going to be DSLR's.
Steven Desjardins
Department of Chemistry
Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
(540) 458-8873
FAX: (540) 458-8878
on 07.07.03 15:30, Steve Desjardins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Even if film SLR's are steady in sales, most of the RD money is going
into the DSLR's. for this reason, I think that most of the flagships
are going to be DSLR's.
That's it! So maybe rumoured Pentax flagship (or LX as some
Pål Jensen wrote:
Pentax have patented an IS teleconverter.
You have my blessing for printing the patent, rolling the paper to form
a tube, and use that between your lens and camera.
cheers,
caveman
Fra: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pål Jensen wrote:
Pentax have patented an IS teleconverter.
You have my blessing for printing the patent, rolling the paper to form
a tube, and use that between your lens and camera.
I would prefer to have the patent number
DagT
Her Chong asked:
just what is the maximum focal length of your zoom?
Herb...
80-200mm zoom, 2x TC.
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From: Gregory L. Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 16:21
Subject: Technical Evaluation
I'm sure a lot of it is
on 07.07.03 16:03, Lon Williamson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have to admit that I don't care what Pentax has
patented, developed, or prototyped. I'm interested
in products that hit dealer shelves.
Maybe they have some real problems with implementing IS in new
lenses/bodies? And that would
In the computer world * means The Joker. You search for *.tif when you
don't know the right name.
So, * can mean anything; you name it: Hobbyist, Lobbyist, Liberalist,
Socialist, Copyist, Optimist, Pacifist, Philatelist...
So if I buy one I could be a -
- photographist,
- PDMList,
- PUGist.
Vic wrote:
Looking at the first shot with the MZ-S and the LX, It's hard to believe that
when Pentax said it was making a new LX, they were not referring to the MZ-S.
The similarities are unmistakable...
REPLY:
Actually, the boss of Pentax camera division uttered that he wanted to make an LX
Mark wrote:
Not surprising at all, really. A very large percentage of people buying
DSLRs are actually buying their first SLR of any kind (Michael Reichmann
says an amazing number of people attending his photography workshops
have never owned a film camera at all).
REPLY:
Exactly. This is
Alin wrote:
Yeah, it's quite obvious, isn't it!?
Whatever goodies the fall will bring, I doubt it is aperture
ring-enabled FA lenses. We won't see any limiteds nor any attempt of
IS/USM either. My guess is some pompous FAJ star with APS sized
image circle. The thought gives me a nausea -
Eactivist said:
I've noticed with foxes, though, that sometimes you can jump up and down
and wave your arms, and they'll just watch you. But if you try to talk to
them, they'll run. I figured talking would reassure them because
predators try to sneak up on their prey, but I was wrong.
Sylwester wrote:
Maybe they have some real problems with implementing IS in new
lenses/bodies? And that would be OK - IS seems quite complicated to
implement.
For me it is mystery, why Pentax hasn't decided to introduce USM lenses?
After all they have long-term experience in complicated
Hi all,
it seems to me that the *ist now becomes available in Germany.
One of the printed catalogs claims 289 Euro, while online it says 379 Euro
(Brenner). Foto Koch says 379 Euro as well, while the US price is about $299
(BH), which would be about 230 Euro today (plus local taxes).
Ok, I'm
Lon Williamson said:
Greg,
I've notice grain gets butt-ugly on any speed of color
neg film if that film is underexposed. I have also
noticed that using a 2x TC on a consumer zoom (in my
case, a Sigma APO 70-300) gives horrible sharpness no
matter what tripod tricks I use (take your pick:
379 EUR is the official price on
http://www.pentax.de/pentaxeurope/pentaxeurope_prod/pentaxeurope/v2/de/images/Preisliste_endverbraucher.pdf
on 07.07.03 17:13, Martin Trautmann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One of the printed catalogs claims 289 Euro, while online it says 379 Euro
(Brenner). Foto Koch says 379 Euro as well, while the US price is about $299
(BH), which would be about 230 Euro today (plus local taxes).
379 Euro is
There is a loss in the first jpeg save. How much depends on how much
compression you choose. That lost may be acceptable to you, but still it is
there.
There is no denying it, and in fact I personally never have. What I did
say was that I compared a RAW image to a least-lossy setting jpeg and the
I have enough cash set aside now to buy a 1Ds and a clutch of L lenses but
I'd
much rather be able to buy a Pentax body to suite the great lenses that I
already own.
Rob Studdert
Is that what it's called, a clutch? Like a flock of geese and a school of
fish? Always wondered.
A focus of
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From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lenses without aperture rings (WAS: Re[2]: Lens compatibility
in perspective)
No it really isn't obvious. The obvious fact is that they have made
crippled mount on what Pentax labels entry level bodies. This is nothing
I liked the part about the terrorist the best.
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 13:33, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote:
on 07.07.03 14:38, Lukasz Kacperczyk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have read! Lots of fun :-) Especially TRI-X sentences :-)))
I can only hope you've read it in Polish... ;-)
Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Eactivist said:
I've noticed with foxes, though, that sometimes you can jump up and down
and wave your arms, and they'll just watch you. But if you try to talk to
them, they'll run. I figured talking would reassure them because
predators try to sneak up on their
After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet,
my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot.
He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot. He's scared, but
this will give him his best chances of returning to airborne duty and
on 07.07.03 17:14, Pål Jensen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, they have patented this too :o)
The KAF3 mount will cater for both IS and USM. It is probably not a technical
decision, more a marketing one. I think Pentax must releases USM lenses
because all the competition does soon. Minolta
I feel for you, Bob, and especially for your son. I am hoping for him to
return to airborne duty next year.
Maris
Bob Blakely wrote:
After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's
feet, my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of
his left foot. He
It is working now ...
D.
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På mandag, 7. juli 2003, kl. 17:43, skrev Sylwester Pietrzyk:
I wonder if *ist D would be able
to use such a lenses in the future? According to this patent no,
because it
doesn't have powerzoom contact neccessary to drive in-lens motor. but
maybe
they have found another way to transmit power to
Hi, I have a beautiful SMC-M 35mm f2 with some (not a lot) oil on the
blades, and the aperture seems slow, especially when it's mounted on a
camera and I try to see how fast it opens when I use the depth of field
preview. I would like to get it repaired, and have seen from browsing
through the
on 07.07.03 17:59, Dag T at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I doubt that the patent protection is limited to the use of the power
zoom contacts, so from that point of view can use any contact they want.
We'll have to wait for the first Pentax USM lens to know the true. Right now
we can only speculate
do an image subtract in Photoshop of the RAW and JPEG to see the differences.
Herb
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pentax List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:17
Subject: Re: Digital Delays?
There is no denying it, and in fact I personally
Much luck, Bob...
We'll be with you in spirit.
Bob Blakely wrote:
After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet,
my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left foot.
He will have a synthetic heal built into his right foot.
I guess I
There are folks on this list whose first hand experience with new technology stopped
with flash bulbs. All they know about is some mathematical model, and they don't know
if it's any good, or if it makes any sense.
If they really knew anything, they'd be making more noise about what is lost on
Hi folks,
I am a newcomer to the list...
I own a Pentax Auto 110. Does the ASA adjust to 200 when 200 speed film
is load or does it default to 100?
Is Kodak the only company that makes ASA 400 film ?
Who do you recommend for processing?
Many regards,
David
that is why i scan and manipulate in 16-bit mode and use 12-bit RAW mode now.
Herb
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:21
Subject: Re: Digital Delays?
There are folks on this list whose first hand experience with new
From today's NY Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/07/technology/07LENS.html?8hpib=pagewanted=printposition=)
:
Over all, global shipments of digital S.L.R. cameras are expected to double this
year, to one million. To grab a piece of this growing pie, another Japanese
manufacturer, the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Olympus Optical Company, plans in October to release its E-1 digital
S.L.R. camera, which is expected to sell for less than 100,000 yen
($847.17), making it the cheapest digital S.L.R. camera on the market.
I suspect this would greatly enhance *ist D sales (if Pentax
Artur wrote:
The problem is that the term entry level has so far incorporated bodies of
extremely different specs and the entry level standard is rising (which is
not good in this particular case) - the crippled mount is present both in
the MZ-60 (basicly an interchangeable-lens-PS) and in the
Yeah, sure... maybe someone will believe them
Alex Sarbu
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:43 PM
Subject: Olympus E-1 in NYT
From today's NY Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/07/technology/07LENS.html?8hpib=pagewanted=
Yes, but what bit depth do you save in? If it's 8 bit and do much in Curves or Levels
there'll be all sorts of gaps in the histogram, that can be seen in prints. It's much
more visable hit than repeated high quality JPG saves.
Unless I know I'm going to probably do something later to a scan,
The nice thing about the PZ contacts is that they provide a significant
amount of current conduction and are not as environmentally vulnerable
as are the other pins in the mount. Also, re-engineering the mount
again would be even more counter-productive.
It would be odd to see a new lens using
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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:43 PM
Subject: Olympus E-1 in NYT
From today's NY Times
(http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/07/technology/07LENS.html?8hpib=pagewanted=
printposition=) :
Over all, global shipments
Sylwek wrote:
Actually I have read this patent :-) But it seems strange that they haven't
implemented USM in their lenses/bodies yet. I wonder if *ist D would be able
to use such a lenses in the future? According to this patent no, because it
doesn't have powerzoom contact neccessary to drive
it stays in 16-bit mode until i am done. then i downsample to 8-bit mode and save in
Photoshop format. once in 8-bit mode, i almost always only crop or create JPEGs for
emailing.
Herb
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003
Gaps in the histogram don't necessarily mean printing problems.
Studies done with this in 8-bit show that as few as 40 levels still left
often produce prints that are indistinguishable to those manipulated in
16-bit with many more levels. I suspect this is why Adobe is dragging
its heels in
If he wants to go back into duty, I'd take that as a good
sign that his spirit will bounce back. Wish him well from
all in the Pentax PUG world.
-Lon
Bob Blakely wrote:
After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet,
my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what
Bob,
My prayers go out to you and to your son. I hope that
he recovers fully from his surgery and his
rehabilitation.
Francis M. Alviar
Irvine, CA
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Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 08:37:21 -0700
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My
Well... not exactly but the composition I chose for this shot:
http://www.xian.us/korean.html
Is very similar to the shot that was used on a US Postal Service stamp I saw
today.
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jun2003/200306237a.jpg
Their's was better because the whole body of the
At 03:21 PM 7/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
I'd like some pointers on evaluating technical aspects of my photos. I
take a lot of pictures of animals, and some of them I ask the shop to do a
crop equivalent to about an 8x10 to get some faux telephoto and remove
background I didn't really want. They
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From: David M Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: Auto 110
Hi folks,
I am a newcomer to the list...
I own a Pentax Auto 110. Does the ASA adjust to 200 when 200 speed film
is load or does it default
Welcome David,
I own a Pentax Auto 110. Does the ASA adjust to 200 when
200 speed film is load or does it default to 100?
Is Kodak the only company that makes ASA 400 film ?
Who do you recommend for processing?
The Auto 110 sets exposure for ASA 80 when the film cartridge has an index
tab
I wouldn't dismiss NY Times that easily. My experience is that even
they are not the first to print technology news, usually their
analysis and sources are quite accurate.
The price sounds plausible for a street price -it's close to half
the officious price. And if it gets confirmed,
I don't follow you. If I were new to photography, and wanted to start out
with a DSLR, I might look seriously at the Olympus E-1 because of its price
compared to the *ist D that would be priced about $800 more.
Jim A.
From: Caveman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07
Pål wrote :
REPLY:
The whining about the lack of compatibility with lenses more than 20 years
old is equally meaningful as whining about the lack of Asahiflex
compatibility of the LX back in 1980.
Not realy, some K/M lenses never got an A or later replacement, the relative
compact but
On Monday, July 7, 2003, at 08:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt,
I follow what you are saying, but still don't think it is right.
I just pulled up a 1,425KB jpeg and re-saved it in Paint Shop Pro.
I purposely used the minimum compression I could and got a 1,814KB
jpeg.
So I made this
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:08:45 +0200
Artur wrote:
I disagree with
Pentax calling the *ist entry level - they may call
it whatever they will
but the specs alone say something else.
entry level means first buyers. Today, first buyers
don't want a K-1000 anymore. They want a fully
featured
I'll buy an *ist D. My lenses include one A, 7 FA, and 1 F. I don't
own any older models and I bought all of them brand new, not used. My
newest body is a PZ-1p, also bought new.
Len
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From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:07
Alan Chan wrote:
Pentax engineers have stated that there will be no FA-J*
lenses. Of course there could be FA-S* lenses for all we know :o).
But don't forget that they have the tendence to change the plan quite
often.
Yep. Let's speculate on the FAQ series. Power zoom ?
cheers,
caveman
Hi, you might try Shel`s site:
http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/cameras/pentax_repair_shops.html
Shouldn`t be any more than $85
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
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From: Randy Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:02
Our prayers are with you and your son. May he make a speedy recovery!
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California
- Original Message -
From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: My Son...
After a first surgery to clean and
I had my 35mm f/2 cleaned at Kominek camera repair in Toronto. They did an
excellent job, for CDN$60. I've had other work done there also, and they
are very honest and reliable.
http://www.kominek.com/
M series lenses, unfortunately, seem to be very prone to oil on the blades.
I remember
I'll second Kominek's. I use them all the time, and mention them often on this
list. They've worked on a couple of my Spotmatics, my MX, my Leica CL, and a
couple of lenses. They're quick, always come in around estimate, and friendly
and easy to deal with as well. I've also mentioned before,
In a rash moment, as I only have 5 or 6 copes
left, I put one copy up on ebay
with 4 other funny books, all but one are also out
of print.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11432item=3535761041
It would be nice to think the photo book is the
one that draws the crowds but I'm
M series lenses, unfortunately, seem to be very prone to oil on the blades.
I remember the review of the Pentax ME in Popular Photography back around
1978 mentionining that their test lenses had too much lubricant.
I once bought a brand new condition A35-105/3.5 which kept pumping out oil
Alan Chan wrote:
But don't forget that they have the tendence to change the plan quite
often.
Do you really think they have a plan?
William Robb
Bob Blakely wrote:
life he loves. Rehabilitation will take about a year. Surgery for his
amputation is scheduled for Tuesday. I'll be there with him.
Bob,
Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
--
Later,
Gary
You and your son will be in my thoughts and prayers. I'm so glad you will
be able to go and be there with him.
Kathy L.
Oh, and it comes with a copy of How To Eat Like a Child
One of my favorite books growing up :-)
-Mat
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
In a rash moment, as I only have 5 or 6 copes
left, I put one copy up on ebay
with 4 other funny books, all but one are also out
of print.
Mat Maessen wrote:
Oh, and it comes with a copy of How To Eat Like a Child
One of my favorite books growing up :-)
-Mat
H looks like a potential buyer here :)
annsan
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
In a rash moment, as I only have 5 or 6 copes
left, I put one copy up on ebay
with 4
Bob, I wish you and your son the fullest possible recovery from this
nightmare.
Boris
===8==Original message text===
BB After a first surgery to clean and inspect the damage did to my son's feet,
BB my son and his doctors have agreed to remove what is left of his left
Naw, it is just another of his snipes at me. Don't pay him no mind, no one
else does.
Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
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From: Matt Bevers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: Digital Delays?
Rofini a écrit:
Welcome David,
I own a Pentax Auto 110. Does the ASA adjust to 200 when
200 speed film is load or does it default to 100?
Is Kodak the only company that makes ASA 400 film ?
Who do you recommend for processing?
The Auto 110 sets exposure for ASA 80 when the film
rspective)?=
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Uytkownik Pl Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisa:
Firstly, the MZ-models will be gone while the *ist is still around.
So far the MZ-models ARE still around and there are no information about their
discontinuation.
Secondly, you can call it
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