Re: mmm...it's soo bee-u tee fuul..

2003-10-12 Thread David Mann
Ryan Lee wrote: > I'm sure this has gone around before but *drool* it's so pretty > http://digilander.libero.it/aohc/cameras/mz3ltdblk.jpg > > I want.. My favourite combos: 1: A somewhat-brassed old 6x7 MLU with the 45mm f/4 and wooden grip. The "old faithful" look. 2: An LX with the K35mm f

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 13 Oct 2003 at 0:09, graywolf wrote: > Probably a Macbeth Color Checker. Could also be an IT8.7/2 calibrated colour target too. I have a print (scanner or digicam) and slide version, both come with calibration offsets on floppy and can be used to produce a customised colour calibration profi

Re: mmm...it's soo bee-u tee fuul..

2003-10-12 Thread Ryan Lee
Yeah stingy fellas didn't bring it into Australia or Singapore either.. I really like the look of that outfit, the mz3 with the black 43. Good ooh factor. Yep and it's got faster flash sync and faster shutter speeds. I don't really need the features though. It just goes on my list of stuff to buy w

HSM (was Re: Henry's Camera very annoying)

2003-10-12 Thread Ryan Lee
Heya Cotty Yeah I know it's pretty decent.. I'm saving up for one now.. just that the only ones with HSM are Canon and Nikon.. The Pentax and Minolta versions are HSMless.. missing some circuits. Unfortunately for P and M, even the third party manufacturers pay more attention to C and N. For exampl

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread graywolf
Probably a Macbeth Color Checker. Jim Apilado wrote: Too bad. An owner of a processing lab suggested getting a special card that uses a gray card and a white card. You will get better color if you white balance first. You and your photo friends should really check into this. There was a time w

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread graywolf
Yep everything is plastic these days, guns, supersonic aircraft, blankets, your drawers, my teeth (grin). Funny thing is there are cheap plastics and plastics that cost more than machined titanium. cheap and plastic are not necessarily synonymous anymore (look at the price of those teeth). Cot

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread graywolf
You have to buy the vertical grip to get a PC terminal on a D100, but yes it it available though $150 seems like a lot to pay for a PC terminal (grin). Heiko Hamann wrote: Hi Cotty, on 12 Oct 03 you wrote in pentax.list: The Rebel may have a plastic chassis but the 10D (and D30/60) do not. P

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > Here's my little theory about WB - you don't need to worry about it. > What have print labs been doing for years? Working with a media that > is stuck on daylight balance but shot in a multitude of conditions. If > you're making prints, find an expert printer and let him do his job. Yep. I

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread graywolf
Hummm? The guys working at Hydromatic in Ypsilanti might argue about GM not building automatic transmissions with you, Paul. However, I will note that unless the changed the laws over in Japan GM does not own Isuzu, the Japanese government does not (or at least did not) allow foreign contro

Re: which focusing screen for PZ-1?

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > Guarav asked > >I am quite used to the split-image and matte (?) screen of the > > ME-Super. Are there such screens for PZ-1? > > Beattie Intenscreen has made such a screen for the PZ-1. I think I bought mine > from B&H. Jost one word of caution; the Beattie screens can cause the in-camer

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > I can't see spending $1500 for a six megapixel camera. > In two or three years it will be a paperweight. No. In two or three years it will still produce 6MP images. That's more than enough for most purposes; it's a full-frame 8x10 print at 300ppi. Unless you're shooting on a tripod, at opti

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread ernreed2
Robert G posted: > I had my first look at a camera store near me and it looks > like a winner. Very light! But very solid. Which camera store ... ?

Re: which focusing screen for PZ-1?

2003-10-12 Thread ernreed2
Guarav asked >I am quite used to the split-image and matte (?) screen of the > ME-Super. Are there such screens for PZ-1? Beattie Intenscreen has made such a screen for the PZ-1. I think I bought mine from B&H.

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Jim Apilado
Too bad. An owner of a processing lab suggested getting a special card that uses a gray card and a white card. You will get better color if you white balance first. You and your photo friends should really check into this. There was a time when carrying a gray card to meter on was the photo thin

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Oct 2003 at 16:28, tom wrote: > No one that I know. > > I actually went to a digital seminar thingie a while back which was > basically a front for this guy to sell his *really* white white-card. > He claimed you couldn't do "proper" photography without one. I was > with a bunch of photogra

RE: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Oct 2003 at 23:15, Rob Brigham wrote: > More lattitude into shadow yes, but highlights get blown faster than > almost any slide film I have used. I never liked Sensia because I felt > it did this too easily. Better to deliberately under-expose digital a > fraction IMHO. In fact I am think

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Oct 2003 at 18:04, John Francis wrote: > Not really. The other side of the grey card you carry for reflected light > metering is a white card that can be used for white balance. My Kodak grey card isn't white (or grey) enough to make a good balance from, I can't white balance from a whit

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Oct 2003 at 12:40, Jim Apilado wrote: > I wonder how many users of digital equipment carry a white card to do white > balancing? Just like how many digital slr users carry a light meter around > with them all the time so they can get more accurate metering that their > dslr doesn't seemingl

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > > Vic is right. IMO there can only be 2 possible reasons for buying a 300mm > 2.8 lens: > > 1. You need the extra stop over a much cheaper f/4 lens, notably for > sport or (say) rock concerts or whatever (where flash may not be > appropriate)... ... or if you plan to use it with a TC occas

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2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
Think I've sorted it. My email app couldn't cope with this subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company... I'd make sure I wasn't getting a Tamron rebadged windscreen when copied and pasted (I'm a digest subscriber) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pasti

Re: matters of light & depth by Ross Lowell

2003-10-12 Thread Feroze Kistan
Hi All, Has anyone read this book, whats your opinion I'm looking for the definitive book on studio lighting, any recomendations Feroze

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > What is the exposure accuracy requirement of a digital sensor as compared to > film? Well, just like slide film, you really don't want to overexpose; blow out the highlights and there's nothing you can do about it. Underexposure introduces noise (pretty much as can be seen by looking at sho

RE: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
More lattitude into shadow yes, but highlights get blown faster than almost any slide film I have used. I never liked Sensia because I felt it did this too easily. Better to deliberately under-expose digital a fraction IMHO. In fact I am thinking about leaving the exposure compensation permanent

RE: If Pentax were like an automobile company... I'd make sure I wasn't getting a Tamron rebadged windscreen

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Yeah, I bought a 306 4 years ago, when I dumped by disastrous Rover Coupe which had spent more time in the garage than out of it. Don't want to go there... Back to Pugs, I bought mine because I knew at least 6 other people who had run theirs for years with absolutely no problems whatsoever. The

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > What I am worrying is that good quality processing might become harder and > harder to find in the near future. > > Alan Chan "Near Future" be blowed. In two years I've had to find a new place to get my slides processed twice because the lab I was using closed down, and one of the two labs

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Oct 2003 at 12:10, William Robb wrote: > What is the exposure accuracy requirement of a digital sensor as compared to > film? General consensus appears to be to treat exposure like slide, once saturation occurs it's a brick wall however generally the harder it saturates the more nasty abe

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Not me - I know (from experience) better than to start something which will take hours to fix this close to sleep time! > -Original Message- > From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 October 2003 23:02 > To: pentax list > Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > > On 12/10/03,

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Bucky
Let's not mince words, Wheatfield. HAR. -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12-Oct-03 10:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel - Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > So it's

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread John Francis
> > I wonder how many users of digital equipment carry a white card to do white > balancing? Just like how many digital slr users carry a light meter around > with them all the time so they can get more accurate metering that their > dslr doesn't seemingly give them. Lots of extra stuff to carry

RE: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Should be possible - just hack one of the short extension tubes surely so that the lens always stops down? Build in a 0.7 teleconvertor with a lever to control the stop down and everyone will be happy - except that outside Japan you will probably only be able to buy the grren one which doesn't mat

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Nope, I don't mean the diopter adjustment. If you have one, pull the lens >off and look up at the screen. You'll see the little metal thingy that is >used to hold the screen in place. Cool. One of you guys is going to *have* to pull that sucker outa th

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company... I'd make sure I wasn't getting a Tamron rebadged windscreen

2003-10-12 Thread Keith Whaley
No problem. I did get that post about an hour and 20 minutes ago... keith Cotty wrote: > > Sorry - reposting cuz my email app is having a spasm with the subject > line and it keeps coming out with gobbledy-guck. Sorta like the content. > > * > > On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgo

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company...

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Okay, I like that list. (I work on Jeep advertising for Europe, Asia >Pacific, and South America.) >Paul One of the projects that I want to do before I die is build a CJ5 from scratch. I will do it, maybe not for 20 years but hell's teeth I Will Do It.

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company...

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >Been meaning to ask you, Cot, ol' pal, what do you think of Land Rovers? >No, tell the truth! They carry lots of Pentax gear. (Yeah, swings it back, baby. Swings it back!) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
I put my (2100) NIMH batts in around 200 shots ago - still showing full on the camera! This is with around 20% using the flash as wireless controller. Before that the original 2 CR whatevers had taken about 400 and still showed full. I don't hold back on viewing the shots on screen either - the

RE: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
Amen to that - After all these years I still cant find a lab I am even halfway happy with in terms of both consistency and results. That's the main reason I went to slides. The scanning time involved with slides to sensibly print them without spending a lot of money is part of what has pushed me

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-12 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Thomas Stach wrote: > Well, why would I want to handhold it? > > As I described in my earlier post I'm planning to do aerosports shooting > with it - very fast moving objects. > A lot of shooting is done right overhead, I'm trying to capture fast > objects in flight with some fps - it's some

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
I only use Auto for flash at the moment - unless I cant find anything white to balance off. I wasn't really very happy with Auto. Unless using RAW of course, where it doesn't matter. > -Original Message- > From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 October 2003 21:29 > To: [EMAIL PR

RE: If Pentax were like an automobile company...

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >that's a nice selection! >However, I miss the Landrover Freelander (best 4x4xfar :-) ) >Hans B. Danke. They dealer lets me play in a Freelander when the Disco is in for a service. Like being on a skateboard! Q: What's the fastest car in the world? A re

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
The istD grip doesn't have any batteries integral. It takes 4 AAs just like the body. These last the same as the ones in the body. If you have both (first Pentax grip where you can keep the batts in the body?) then it uses them in parrallel. Number of shots depends on the batts used. > -Or

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
>> But why would you want to handhold such a big heavy lens? At >> least use a monopod. Why buy such an expensive lens and then not >> maximize it's capabilities by handholding it? Sure, if you have >> to hand hold it a few times that's one thing, but I would never >> buy such a lens with hand hold

Re: M lenses (long)

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
>> And yes, there some A* lenses that are extraordinary including >> the A*85/1.4 and A*135/1.8 - real gems without any plastic. And >> lenses they never made in the M series like the A200/2.8 or >> A100/2.8 Macro or A20/2.8... Or the A35-105/3.5 zoom, a Pentax >> quality zoom. Or the A200/4 M

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> > Do people have a feel for how long a set of batteries last? >> >> Not long. I don't think a set of 4 AA NIMH batteries would >> go for more than >> a hundred and fifty shots. Mine shows low battery after >> about 75, but seems >> to keep going for qui

Re: questions about 200/2.5

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
> have got this one lately. it really is gorgeous. and fast. and > heavy. Welcome to the club. It's a nice lens, and you will enjoy using it. As for it being "gorgeous", it (my copy, anyway) has the most beautiful bluish SMC treatment - it's not just a "gorgeous" lens to use, but it's "gorgeous"

Re: Macro lenses

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
> Working distance and background control. A 200mm puts you farther > away than a 100, and often lets you be more selective in > background. But the 200 is heavier and may require a heavier > tripod. It is also bigger. Well, "a 200mm puts you farther away than a 100", but it also (for the same m

Re: Macro lenses

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
> I was wondering, why not just remove that part of the lens instead > of all the masking? If it was built like the Pentax, that piece of > metal (or plastic for Pentax) was held by 3 tiny screws on the > side. It doesn't affect any optics at all. I've done it both ways, Alan, but I've used mask

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Rob Brigham
I don't bother to carry a white card (yet), but was never really happy with the Auto-White-Balance and tended to select a warmer preset. I was getting fed up continually switching though, and this weekend have tried using the manual white balance set from: A white T-shirt A white painted door A R

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I wonder how many users of digital equipment carry a white card to do white >balancing? Just like how many digital slr users carry a light meter around >with them all the time so they can get more accurate metering that their >dslr doesn't seemingly give

RE: If Pentax were like an automobile company... I'd make sure I wasn't getting a Tamron rebadged windscreen

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
Sorry - reposting cuz my email app is having a spasm with the subject line and it keeps coming out with gobbledy-guck. Sorta like the content. * On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >HUH? What DO you drive? Or do you? Velocipede, motorcycle, what? 1978: 1971 Rover 2000 SC 1979

Re: *IstD kit

2003-10-12 Thread Jostein
I don't think so. All the Swedish shops list three alternatives; body only, Body+lens, and body+lens+grip. I think it's more that Pentax is trying to show the public the fact that they actually have a lens to match the requirement for a wider angle zoom. Jostein - Pictur

Scanner saga is over. Well, almost.

2003-10-12 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! I've just got my first successful scan from my own Epson 2450 scanner that I bought second hand. It costed me roughly 60% of new price of the same scanner in Israel... I did some scans already and they came just fine for the first try. I am feeling much more independent now. No waiting for t

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Jim Apilado
I wonder how many users of digital equipment carry a white card to do white balancing? Just like how many digital slr users carry a light meter around with them all the time so they can get more accurate metering that their dslr doesn't seemingly give them. Lots of extra stuff to carry. Jim A.

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Steve Larson
Paul, I would like to think that Boris was ROFL about: Being a consumer (I consumed one in April, very tough to get down ;)) If he was, I take a bow. Boris? Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sen

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Jim Apilado
Really? I have never seen any pressure to switch from film to digital. I shoot with my Optio 230, a nice small digital camera. I still love slides, however and now have swung back to mostly film shooting than digital. Jim A. > From: "Alan Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Vs: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Raimo Korhonen
Hi! I am pretty sure that GM owns Isuzu or a large part of it. My Opel (a GM car) has diesel engine built by Isuzu - in Japan or Austria, hard to tell. Now Isuzu makes diesels for European GM cars in Poland, too. All the best! Raimo Photos at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen - Or

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Alan Chan
What I am worrying is that good quality processing might become harder and harder to find in the near future. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan I think film will continue to be available for hobbyists. But pros will eventually be forced into digital. But not until 10 megapixel cameras are wi

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Thanks. I got rid of a '71 250C Mercedes one time, because I'd already put so much in the car (well-used when I bought it) I was scared to death that if the massively complicated auto tranny went south, I'd be in a world of hurt, trying to come up with enough money to fix or replace it... I really

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company... I'd make sure I wasn't getting a Tamron rebadged windscreen

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> Peugot in the UK has an excellent quality reputation AFAIK, and some of >> the hottest cars around. > >> This from what I've heard...I don't drive cars. > >you just ride around in helicopters instead, eh? ;o) Land Rovers! Cheers, Cotty ___/\_

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think film will continue to be available for hobbyists. But pros will eventually be forced into digital. But not until 10 megapixel cameras are widely available for less than $1000. When will that happen? Two to three years at most. But film is fun, ans ome of us will continue to use it. It's a d

Re: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-12 Thread Alan Chan
I had the Sigma 24/2.8 too in PKA (MF) mount few years ago. It was a great lens optically, but was disappointed by its built quality. Yes, its body is metal, but the rubber ring, the contact pins & plastic aperture ring were wearing in no time. Never seen any lens had so much wear in such rate (

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Alan Chan
I think consumers are going to be forced into digital, whether they like it or not, if they are going to continue to take pictures. At least I can feel the pressure too. Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Uh, Bill, I hate to burst your bubble, but Isuzu isn't an American car, and it isn't a GM car. GM doesn't build transmissions. They buy them from suppliers, same as Isuzu. It might be the same trans that GM uses, but it's not their part. William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > Fro

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Paul Stenquist
Boris may think it's funny, but Mercedes-Benz doesn't. They're getting their ass kicked worldwide. Boris Liberman wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 06:51:04 -0700 > "Steve Larson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Hi Paul, > > GM does has a higher quality rating than Benz at the moment, > >they (GM)

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Then why was it avail on the $100 K-1000 for years??? DIRT CHEAP .. All it is is a simple cam that tells the body how many stops less light the exposure will have vs. wide open reading. Nothing fancy. X number of stops per degree of rotation VERY SIMPLE. You repeatedly thinks this needs tons o

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... > Auto or stick? Auto. William Robb

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Has Pentax missed again? > > To my way of thinking, no film is a pretty big advantage. So, just curious, > what else could DSLRs offer? Resolution as good as medium

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Auto or stick? keith William Robb wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Keith Whaley" > Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... > > > I still want to hear about that tranny! > > Well, the GM built tranny in my Isuzu went south after less than 100,000 km > (thats

Re: Has Pentax missed again?

2003-10-12 Thread Eactivist
REPLY: I'm not convinced. In order for the market to go where you predict in less than five years digital need to offer more than simply "not using film" which is basically all that there is to digital at present. Mind you, that may be enough for many but not convincing enough for a wholesale s

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-12 Thread Thomas Stach
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > Explain it to us again. What exactly are you shooting that you need a fast > 300 or 200... Why are you shooting at 4,000 of a second? That seems like > overkill no matter what you are shooting. Well, okay. I'm shooting aerosport models. I'm into rocketry...I've p

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "tom" Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > On the 10D you hit the WB button, spin a dial. The slected WB is > always displayed on the top panel. It sounds like there isn't really any advantage to one or the other. They are both getting there in much the

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Dallman" Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > > *istD has interchangeable screens... competitors don't > > It does? Nothing about it in my manual. Do you mean the variable diopter > setting on the viewfinder? Cool. I just had a look, and it su

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" Subject: Re: Old lenses and *ist D > Unless the "new" users might just want to try some extreme telephoto's to see > if they might like them on the cheep. (Let's see now, I paid an extra $100 for > a feature I might not use vs. You want how muc

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > The 10D has good access to WB. I'm not sure that the > ist-D could be > > any easier. > > The ist D is pretty easy. Set the control wheel to WB, turn > the front dial > (I think) to the white balance you want, and

Re: mmm...it's soo bee-u tee fuul..

2003-10-12 Thread Keith Whaley
A slightly upgraded MX-5n (ZX-5n in U.S.) Don't know about where you live, but sadly they weren't imported into the U.S. Sure is a nice looking body, and if they were as good or better than the highly regarded MX-5n, ought to be a fine camera...! I didn't miss that fine 43mm Ltd f/1.8 lens, either.

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Keith Whaley" Subject: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ... > I still want to hear about that tranny! Well, the GM built tranny in my Isuzu went south after less than 100,000 km (thats 62,500 miles for the metrically impaired). Cost two and a

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Peter Alling
Unless the "new" users might just want to try some extreme telephoto's to see if they might like them on the cheep. (Let's see now, I paid an extra $100 for a feature I might not use vs. You want how much for that 300mm lens) At 04:23 PM 10/9/03 +0200, you wrote: Hi William, on 08 Oct 03 you

Re: (OT) Back from my travels

2003-10-12 Thread Peter Alling
At 10:17 AM 10/9/03 -0400, Jerome wrote: oh... one more! An 82mm Hoya HMC Circular Polarizer can bounce three times during a decent down a cliff before the glass shatters. At least it wasn't still attached to the lens, and the lens to the camera. It's nice to be back. I hope all has been well

Re: Digital Memory

2003-10-12 Thread ernreed2
> Can anyone recommend a web site that explains the differences among > different kinds of digital memory, and among the different grades of memory? > > Thanks, > > Joe > Looking for this? http://www.steves-digicams.com/flash_memory.html

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Owens) wrote: > *istD has interchangeable screens... competitors don't It does? Nothing about it in my manual. Do you mean the variable diopter setting on the viewfinder? --- John Dallman [EMAIL

Re: If Pentax were like an automobile company ...

2003-10-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Automatic tranny? I only have 1/10 the miles on my 4 year old SW-2 Saturn wagon, but it's a stick with a 5 speed tranny. I'm still very well pleased with the quality and - so far - durability. I've owned foreign sports cars, and later coupes and sports sedans since 1956, far preferring the handling

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" Subject: Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > The Rebel may have a plastic chassis but the 10D (and D30/60) do not. The Rebel D apparently has a stainless steel frame holding the sensor and lens mount in registration. At least thats what I've been told.

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Amita Guha" Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > Not true. There are something like nine or ten AF sensors to choose from > on the 300D. The 300D has nicer buttons for choosing this stuff too. The 4 way rocker on the ist D is kind of fiddly. William R

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > So it's OK to add all these "features" and drive up the > cost of the *istD to all buyers but adding the $10.00 K/M > lense compatibility was "off-limits"??? John, stop pulling numbers out of your

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "tom" Subject: RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel > > Do people have a feel for how long a set of batteries last? Not long. I don't think a set of 4 AA NIMH batteries would go for more than a hundred and fifty shots. Mine shows low battery after about 75, but seems

Re: M lenses (long)

2003-10-12 Thread Peter Alling
The M50/2 was the conceptual replacement for the 55/2. Unlike the 55 lenses there are actual optical differences between the f2 and f1.7 lenses. At 08:59 AM 10/9/03 -0500, you wrote: On Wed, 8 Oct 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: > "george de fockert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have yet to find a

Re: WTB in the future: 300mm f/2.8

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I'm always trying to get a 1/4000 s or even faster. >This summer I've done a lot of shooting with my F*300mm f/4.5 lens wide >open and IS0 400 and ISO 800 film - the shots turned out very nice but >the grain now bothers me. You need the extra stop. Go f

Re: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> All have not missed a beat, all are well built and focus fast and the >70-200 (with HSM) has fast and quiet AF, although I normally use manual >which is a >> simple case of overriding the AF by turning the focus ring. > >hmm Cotty.. with HSM I hear you

Digital Memory

2003-10-12 Thread Joseph Tainter
Can anyone recommend a web site that explains the differences among different kinds of digital memory, and among the different grades of memory? Thanks, Joe

Re: Nice bird, nice car...

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >That`s like deja vu all over again (Yogi). I sent that message last Weds and it just popped up again. Is there a hiccup with the list or is it just me and Steve? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.mac

Re: Old lenses and *ist D

2003-10-12 Thread Peter Alling
No extra code is required for stopdown metering with M42 lenses. If the code for the camera is properly written, (I'll make no bets on that, I've seen some awful code, but assuming they did a good job) then the amount of code used a.) to make the camera not fire when a lens isn't set to A, or d

Re: Boston photo experiences

2003-10-12 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Amita Guha wrote: > snip, snip, snip > > I did have one advantage over Nate - I had two bodies, so I had to > switch lenses less often than he did. ;) > I thought the advantage of having two bodies was that you could be in more than one place at once :) > > We had an interesting altercation with

Re: Re: If Pentax were like an automobile

2003-10-12 Thread John Dallman
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cotty) wrote: > This from what I've heard...I don't drive cars. Me neither. I walk, ride a bicycle, or take a bus or a train. I realise this is un-american, but I'm not american so it's OK. --- John Dallman

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Fred
>> So, Bill, what's your point? > Just trying to show why the *istD costs considerably more than the > digital Rebel. I understand, Bill - I was just "kidding you" (notice the "" after my query). Please know that I was ~not~ questioning the worth of your post. On the contrary, I do agree that

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread J. C. O'Connell
So it's OK to add all these "features" and drive up the cost of the *istD to all buyers but adding the $10.00 K/M lense compatibility was "off-limits"??? JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jco

Re: *IstD kit

2003-10-12 Thread Jim Apilado
Is this a sign that the dslr might be a slow seller without the lens? Jim A. > From: mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:20:35 -0400 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: *IstD kit > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 11:17

RE: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Amita Guha
> > *istD is faster...faster in waking up and operating than Canon > > the Canon takes a week and a half to wake up > > Um, the 10D takes 3 seconds. So does the 300D. ;) > *istD allows user to choose AF sensor(s) .. 'automatic' > with D Rebel Not true. There are something like nin

Re: *istD vs. Digital Rebel

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >*istD has a stainless steel chassis... vs a plastic chassis for Canon >D100, S2, Sigma, 10D and Digital Rebel have a plastic chassis Hi Uncle Bill, I agree with the trend of your argument but a point of information regarding the above: from DPR

Re: Nice bird, nice car...

2003-10-12 Thread Steve Larson
That`s like deja vu all over again (Yogi). Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 1:30 PM Subject: OT: Nice bird, nice car... > Okay, here's one for petrol-hea

Re: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-12 Thread Ryan Lee
From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > All have not missed a beat, all are well built and focus fast and the 70-200 (with HSM) has fast and quiet AF, although I normally use manual which is a > simple case of overriding the AF by turning the focus ring. hmm Cotty.. with HSM I hear you say? :) Ryan

Re: Henry's Camera very annoying

2003-10-12 Thread Cotty
On 12/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >>The bottom line is, the margins for retailers will be very low. So have to >>shift much product to make up for that. My guess is Pentax' incentives and >>margins fall below those of Canon. > >No wonder wherever you go, they have tried to sell you Sigma

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