Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread John Coyle
I wonder if the condition of the roads makes any difference? I don't know whether Bill's locality has rough roads or not: but, for me, since 99.99(recurring)% of my driving is on city or highway surfaces, I'm not surprised that my Honda Integra is now 10 years old and has cost me very little ap

Re: Travel camera quiry

2006-07-23 Thread John Coyle
I did make a print - but I guess WW's been too busy to follow up. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:39 AM Subject: Re: Travel camera quiry > The travel camera pr

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Don Williams
Here and in the UK the bodies rust and fall to pieces while the engines remain good. Don John Coyle wrote: > I wonder if the condition of the roads makes any difference? I don't know > whether Bill's locality has rough roads or not: but, for me, since > 99.99(recurring)% of my driving is on ci

Re: Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-23 Thread mike wilson
> > From: DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/21 Fri PM 10:42:50 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > The Norwegian name is "Vågehval", and in latin"Balaenoptera > acutorostrata". I´m not sure what it is called in English but > according to the Int

Re: Whale hunting photos

2006-07-23 Thread Toine
I think they invented this whale bullet to speed the process of killing and harvesting whales. Whale hunters and consumers sound like politicians. Everything is reversed. On 7/22/06, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. According to this they use several hours to kill the > poor animal

RE: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Bob W
It's not resting. It's pining for the Fords. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Jack Davis > Sent: 23 July 2006 02:24 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: PESO: Resting "T" > > This is the only car picture I have, so am off

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread John Coyle
That used to be my experience too! I don't think any one of the half-dozen or so cars I owned in the UK did not have rust in them after a comparatively short time. In Oz, it seems(at least in Queensland) they go on for ever - serious rust is comparatively rare. Has to be down to the climate, w

Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-23 Thread DagT
No, he died from pneumonia. Before that he played with some kids, ate some fish and had a nice time. DagT Den 23. jul. 2006 kl. 01.39 skrev Norman Baugher: > Where he was promptly eaten. His running probably had something to > do with > Michael Jackson... > Norm > > From: "DagT" > Here´s a

Re: Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-23 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Norman Baugher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/22 Sat PM 11:33:07 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > I say kill them all so we won't have to have these conversations... > Norm But I quite like the Norwegians I have met. Not met any Australian

Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-23 Thread DagT
Den 23. jul. 2006 kl. 04.53 skrev William Robb: > > - Original Message - > From: "DagT" > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > >> Visit us if you dare... > > Thanks for the offer, I'll stick with places whose people don't eat > endangered species and post kiddie porn on the net though. > > William R

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 22, 2006, at 1:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Today's front wheel drive cars handle relatively well, but like > others have noted, rear drive cars handle better under most > circumstances. Early front-wheel drive cars were a mess. Almost all > of them came with a handling characteristic kn

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/22/2006 9:44:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I come to my understanding of the current global warming, "crisis", because I can do slightly better than simple math, have a passing understanding of statistics, and know where to look things up. I began

Re: RE: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread mike wilson
Damn! The obvious response: "Ah! It's an American Black." is a non-starter because of the PC crowd. > > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/23 Sun AM 08:18:07 GMT > To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" > Subject: RE: PESO: Resting "T" > > It's not resting. It's pining for the Fords.

Re: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/22/2006 6:30:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=148 === Made me grin. I was expecting something Paulish. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 12:53:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here and in the UK the bodies rust and fall to pieces while the engines remain good. Don === Weather is a big factor. In California, you can see classic old cars on the road. No snow, no salt on th

RE: RE: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Bob W
Yea? Well what about the Mac crowd too - they wouldn't approve either. But they'd be a lot cooler about it. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of mike wilson > Sent: 23 July 2006 12:03 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Su

Re: GESO - Keeping You Cool

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom, Suddenly I feel a bit of a chill... Regards, Bob S. On 7/22/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marnie had expressed a liking of 'cool-themed' photos since it's been so > hot. On our porch in the shade the thermometer was reading 110F this > afternoon. > > Some photos to keep you cool. >

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Vic Macbournie
I own two Subaru wagons and I have never driven a car that handles as good as these all-wheel drive vehicles. Rain, snow, sleet, and we get them all here in Canada, are nothing to worry about. On regular pavement or dirt roads ... these things handle like no other vehicles... I love 'em. vic

RE: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
:-)) Jack --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's not resting. It's pining for the Fords. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Jack Davis > > Sent: 23 July 2006 02:24 > > To: pdml@pdml.net > > Subj

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality. Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions. The best thing to clean up air polution in the US would be to put a bounty on old, beater cars. Regards, Bob S. On 7/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > California seems to go very

Re: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack. She's naked! ;-) Nice shot, I enjoyed finding her resting there. Regards, Bob S. On 7/22/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the only car picture I have, so am offering it for your > comments. > No, it was not my car. Only my discovery to photograph. > When I pulled it u

Re: PESO: Architecture shot that didn't make it into the PUG

2006-07-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Keith McGuinness wrote: >>> http://www.robertstech.com/peso.htm > >Foul! Unfair! > >A) Posting a theme picture before the gallery is up. > >B) Posting such a damn good theme picture at all. > >Stunning! Thanks. Now my actual PUG photo will probably be a let-down... -- Mark Roberts Photography

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > === > People who think the earth or nature can recover from anything thrown at it, > tend to scare me. I have seen environmental degradation in my lifetime. It's > not hard to see if you are looking. Whether or not global warming or an ice > age > (I remember th

RE: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Don Sanderson
Hi Ann, When I saw the film last night there were only about 12 other people there. I found it very odd that at 52 years old I was the youngest in attendence, I had expected to see quite a few "Tree Hugger" hippie types, among which I used to, and still do to a great extent, number myself. The movi

PDML Mini-FAQ Link

2006-07-23 Thread gray_wolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com/pentax/pdml-faq.html -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: GESO - Keeping You Cool

2006-07-23 Thread Tom C
Thanks Bob. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: GESO - Keeping You Cool >Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 07:22:13 -0500 > >Tom, >Suddenly I feel a bit of a chill... >Regards, Bob S. > >On 7/22/06, Tom C <[

Re: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Yup!. Sorry, I should have alerted everyone. :) Thanks, Jack --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack. > > She's naked! ;-) > > Nice shot, I enjoyed finding her resting there. > > Regards, Bob S. > > On 7/22/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is the only car pict

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Reese
IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other problems we have is to address overpopulation. Tom Reese > Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality. > Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions. > The best thing to clean up air polution in the US > would be to put a

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread graywolf
As the late Hugh Morton said, there are seven coal burning power plants here in VA that are grandfathered in and do not have to meet environmental standards. Each of them put out more pollution than all the cars in the state. Funny how this environmental stuff works, isn't it? Before all these

Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Shell
On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Championing freedom of speech in regard to nude photos of children > might be considered PC in some circles. But eating whales is a > definite no-no among that same constituency. Friend of mine has a bumper sticker designed to offend almost

Interesting series of photogaphs on BBC web site

2006-07-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Not to distract anyone from discussions of global warming or the merits of front wheel drive, but here's something about photography: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/technology_future_of_digital_photography/html/1.stm -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com

RE: Interesting series of photogaphs on BBC web site

2006-07-23 Thread Don Sanderson
Photography? What's that? ;-) Neat article, thanks. Here's the authors rather nice website: http://www.thomashawk.com/ Don > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Mark Roberts > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:59 AM > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Vic Macbournie" Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? >I own two Subaru wagons and I have never driven a car that handles as good > as these all-wheel drive vehicles. Rain, snow, sleet, and we get them all > here in Canada, are nothing to worry about. On regular

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
And how do you propose we control population growth? Implementation of a 2 child policy? mandatory abortions for a third pregnancy? Or maybe we need another world war to cull down the numbers. It's not that I disagree that the worlds population is getting out of hand, but it's easier to control th

Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Weather is a big factor. In California, you can see classic old cars on > the > road. No snow, no salt on the roads, etc., no rust. People not only > collect old > classic cars here, they also drive them around now and then. Even though

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Coyle" Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? >I wonder if the condition of the roads makes any difference? I don't know > whether Bill's locality has rough roads or not: but, for me, since > 99.99(recurring)% of my driving is on city or highway surfaces, I'

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread graywolf
Yet, you could not believe all the trees when you were out here. I believe you, Marnie, the environment in San Francisco has deteriorated vastly in your lifetime. I on the other hand having grown up in places like Detroit, and Buffalo am amazed at how much better things are now. You can actuall

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Reese
Change tax and social policy to place more of the cost of raising children on the parents. Offer tax incentives for those who go childless. Talk about it. I'd love to hear just one politician say that it's even a problem. Tom Reese -- Original message -- From:

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread graywolf
Should have put in quotes, stuff from "Funny" on is my comment, and Mr Mortons. And that should have been NC not VA. I have corrected my posting below. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" ---

Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
On 7/23/06, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a landscaping service that has a pristine condition late 40s 1 ton > still in service. There are at least 3, 40/50's era trucks around where I live that have been converted into tow trucks. The V8 sounds absolutely beautiful when they

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
graywolf wrote: > Yet, you could not believe all the trees when you were out here. I > believe you, Marnie, the environment in San Francisco has deteriorated > vastly in your lifetime. I on the other hand having grown up in places > like Detroit, and Buffalo am amazed at how much better things a

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tom Reese" Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? > IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other problems > we have is to address overpopulation. Your military is attempting that already. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PD

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1st world nations (except Japan). Population growth in most 1st world nations is via immigration, the US being one of the few exceptions with a birth rate in excess of replacement rate. The best way to curb population growth is to rais

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
The government here is trying to encourage people to have kids. Due to an aging population, there is a concern that in 20 years when all the baby boomers are on pensions the tax base won't be large enough to foot the bill. I do like the idea of getting a tax break for having no kids :-) As a singl

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
On 7/23/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think anybody here is arguing that we don't have major > environmental issues. Just whether or not Global Warming is one of them > (I'd argue it is a potential issue, but most likely not a man-made one). When I see news reports about the e

Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
Detroit, of course, is a hotbed of car culture. Many of the classics you see here are former California cars, my '55 BelAir Convertible among them. In fact, classics are so numerous here that special one model shows are frequently held. The photo I posted the other day was from a show for j

Re: OT: credentials

2006-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
P.J.: I've never heard of you anywhere either despite being in the business longer than you. What does that prove? Nothing. I've never heard of the rest of the people on this mailing list either. By your logic, I shouldn't consider anything you or anyone else here has to say as being credib

Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 23, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Bob Shell wrote: > On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> Championing freedom of speech in regard to nude photos of children >> might be considered PC in some circles. But eating whales is a >> definite no-no among that same constituency. > > > Friend

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: > And how do you propose we control population growth? A comedian I heard on TV last night had what sounded like the most viable solution I've heard so far: develop a product (pill, food additive, whatever) that makes human semen taste like chocolate. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LM

Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
At 11:31 PM 23/07/2006, William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "David Savage" >Subject: Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses? > > > > > There are at least 3, 40/50's era trucks around where I live that have > > been converted into tow trucks. The V8 sounds absolutely beautif

Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: Old cars. Was:: New telephoto lenses? > There are at least 3, 40/50's era trucks around where I live that have > been converted into tow trucks. The V8 sounds absolutely beautiful > when they drive past. :-) > > Of course they are

Death and Taxes was Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "David Savage" Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? > > I do like the idea of getting a tax break for having no kids :-) As a > single person it bugs the shit out of me after every budget that > families get all this nice tax relief & I get F.A. :-) There is

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:16:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yet, you could not believe all the trees when you were out here. I believe you, Marnie, the environment in San Francisco has deteriorated vastly in your lifetime. I on the other hand having grown up in place

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread David Savage
On 7/23/06, Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Savage wrote: > > > And how do you propose we control population growth? > > A comedian I heard on TV last night had what sounded like the most > viable solution I've heard so far: develop a product (pill, food > additive, whatever) that

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 5:51:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality. Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions. The best thing to clean up air polution in the US would be to put a bounty on old, beater cars. Regards, Bob

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 7:40:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other problems we have is to address overpopulation. Tom Reese = YES!!! Eventually, we'll have to get around to shooting bad photographers

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:10:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And how do you propose we control population growth? Implementation of a 2 child policy? mandatory abortions for a third pregnancy? Or maybe we need another world war to cull down the numbers. It's not that I

Re: [OT] Whales for lunch (was PESO - Jump)

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
I spent a lot of time in RI, The area that Narragansett Bay takes up is nearly the same size as the total land area of the state. It's a local joke but you can get bumper stickers that say "Pave the Bay", (instead of Save the Bay). Bob Shell wrote: >On Jul 21, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: Interesting series of photogaphs on BBC web site

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
How dare you post something about photography on a photograpy list. Mark Roberts wrote: >Not to distract anyone from discussions of global warming or the >merits of front wheel drive, but here's something about photography: >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/technology_future_of_di

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jul 23, 2006, at 9:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other >> problems we >> have is to address overpopulation. > > YES!!! > > Eventually, we'll have to get around to shooting bad photographers or > something. Maybe those who take pi

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: > Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > >> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> P?l Jensen wrote: >>> Are you suggesting that the new telephotos are USM lenses? >>> >>> The upcoming 16-50/2.8 and 50-135/2.8 are, as is next year's >>> 60-250/4.0. I d

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Jul 23, 2006 at 07:48:58AM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Very good for car buffs, very bad for air quality. > Older cars can generate 10X as much emmissions. > The best thing to clean up air polution in the US > would be to put a bounty on old, beater cars. > Regards, Bob S. Hardly. First

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1st world nations (except Japan). Population growth in most 1st world nations is via immigration, the US being one of the few exceptions with a bir

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Reese
-- Original message -- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Reese" > Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? > > > > IMO, the best thing to clean up air pollution and all the other problems > > we have is to address

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Tom Reese
-- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1st world > nations (except Japan). That depends on your p

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1st world > nations (except Japan). Population growth in most 1st world nations is > via immigration, the US being o

Re: OT: credentials

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
My point is that you claim insider knowledge on just about everything, especially to bolster your arguments. I would expect someone with your breath of interests, that seem to often overlap my own, that I would have heard of you. I would expect that especially in the area I have the most exp

Re: PESO: Architecture shot that didn't make it into the PUG

2006-07-23 Thread Rick Womer
Mark, A bit of a curmudgeonly dissent. I find the diagonal element on the lower right (top of a stone wall, I assume) distracting. It neither leads to nor frames the rest of the pic. Rick --- Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Although I first wondered where I was going to get > an arc

Re: OT: global warming and Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Butch Black
Yet, you could not believe all the trees when you were out here. I believe you, Marnie, the environment in San Francisco has deteriorated vastly in your lifetime. I on the other hand having grown up in places like Detroit, and Buffalo am amazed at how much better things are now. You can actually sw

Re: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Jack - This loaded quickly, looked a lot better than the other three you posted recently Good size... and it IS a jpeg :) I missed most of this morning's golf - except for tuning in on the radio... went out to dim sum with my closest friend and her family as it is nearly her 25th wedding anniv

Re: PESO: Early Aberdeen

2006-07-23 Thread Rick Womer
Jack, I like it just the way it is. My hunch would be that old Aberdeen's economy was based on logging, so the photo is illustrative. It also works well for me artistically. More light on the logs would cause them to compete too much with the background, IMHO. Rick --- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROT

Re: PESO: Resting "T"

2006-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
So did I. Hard holding them back myself. Thanks for comments. Jack --- Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jack - > This loaded quickly, looked a lot better than the other > three you posted recently > Good size... and it IS a jpeg :) > > I missed most of this morning's golf - except

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Interesting thought, however if you look at the demographics that problem is being addressed. Native born Europeans have had negative population growth for quite some time, in France the trend started just after WWI and has been accelerating to this day. Japan started later but has been out p

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 9:55:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But even the US isn't overcrowded by any stretch of the imagination. Europe is far more densely populated. You can make a good argument for overpopulation in Europe, but not for the US or (especially) Canada

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
With improvements in targeting technology our military has made great strides in not killing innocent civilians, now WWII that was the war to decrease general population levels. William Robb wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Tom Reese" >Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? > > > > >

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/06, Don Williams, discombobulated, unleashed: >Here and in the UK the bodies rust and fall to pieces while the engines >remain good. Unless you have an aluminium body ;-) Ours is 12 years old and the body is great. Of course, they all rust und

Re: OT: credentials

2006-07-23 Thread Don Williams
Godfrey, may I call you God for short? Don Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > P.J.: > > I've never heard of you anywhere either despite being in the business > longer than you. What does that prove? Nothing. I've never heard of > the rest of the people on this mailing list either. > > By your logic, I

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: >People who think the earth or nature can recover from anything thrown at it, >tend to scare me. Boo! I'm a firm believer in Gaia. The planet will kill us off long before we can

Re: PESO: Architecture shot that didn't make it into the PUG

2006-07-23 Thread keith_w
Rick Womer wrote: > Mark, > > A bit of a curmudgeonly dissent. I find the diagonal > element on the lower right (top of a stone wall, I > assume) distracting. It neither leads to nor frames > the rest of the pic. > > Rick Well, it does provide a near boundary to the image. Without that tree tr

Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: >Thanks for the offer, I'll stick with places whose people don't eat >endangered species and post kiddie porn on the net though. I'll give that my seal of approval. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New telephoto lenses? > Overpopulation is when the land people live on can no longer support them. > The US passed that point a long, long time ago. Need I remind you how the > US has > drained the third world of resources t

Re: PESO - Jump

2006-07-23 Thread DagT
Den 23. jul. 2006 kl. 19.49 skrev Cotty: > On 22/7/06, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Thanks for the offer, I'll stick with places whose people don't eat >> endangered species and post kiddie porn on the net though. > > I'll give that my seal of approval. Oh, well, the taste isn´t

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
Overpopulation is not simply a function of the number or density of the individuals, but rather the number of individuals compared to the resources (ie. food production) they need to survive. In other words, it is the ratio of population divided by resources. If a given environment has a popula

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
You're seriously oversimplifying. Tom Reese wrote: > -- Original message -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1s

Re: PESO: Architecture shot that didn't make it into the PUG

2006-07-23 Thread Doug Brewer
hmmm. needs green lines On Jul 22, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Although I first wondered where I was going to get an architecture > shot for this month's PUG, I ended up finding several that I liked. My > current PESO is one of the ones I decided not to use for the PUG, but > that I l

Re: OT: global warming and Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually if you simply look at the tonnage of waste produced by the average individual Mexican, who lives well below what we would consider middle class by US or European standards, and the Average Non Mexican North American just to be politically correct, (US or Canada, take your pick, but eas

Re: Aperture

2006-07-23 Thread Doug Brewer
Turns out I don't have enough computer to run Aperture. Guess that settles that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Slightly Weird

2006-07-23 Thread Rick Womer
Weird, yes, but a sharp, colorful, nicely-composed, whimsical shot. I like it. Rick --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I shot a car show today. Among the slightly strange > things you see at > these shows are dolls. Classic car folks position > dolls looking > through the grill

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
If your definition is true then you are wrong. The carrying capacity for the US is much higher than the current population. We feed a large part of the rest of the world. The US does import lots of luxury foods, (any fruit or vegetable out of season is a luxury by the way), which require lar

Re: GESO - Keeping You Cool

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/22/2006 6:29:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.photo.net/photodb/presentation.tcl?presentation_id=325011 Oh yeah... Frank, don't forget to click on the thummbnails to make them bigger. Tom C. Nice gallery, Tom. Definitely refreshing. :-)

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread P. J. Alling
The important thing to remember is that Gaia doesn't care... Cotty wrote: >On 23/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>People who think the earth or nature can recover from anything thrown at it, >>tend to scare me. >> >> > >Boo! > >I'm a firm believer in Gaia. > >

Re: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 7/23/2006 10:53:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The planet will kill us off long before we can get anywhere close to killing it. -- Cheers, Cotty === I suspect so too, Cotty. Wise old Mother Earth that she is. She'll flick us off like fleas. Ma

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread DagT
Wow, if you are feeding a large part of the world with food it really explains why you are so popular, and why you have the world record in debt to other countries. DagT Den 23. jul. 2006 kl. 20.57 skrev P. J. Alling: > If your definition is true then you are wrong. The carrying capacity >

RE: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Bob W
>I'm a firm believer in Gaia. > > > >The planet will kill us off long before we can get anywhere close to >killing it. > Some people treat a statement like that as a challenge... Others seem to think that if the Gaia thing is correct then th

Re: PESO: Early Aberdeen

2006-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Rick! You're doubtless right about the logging economy of old Aberdeen. This area appeared to have had an array of docks/wharfs, in all likelihood, to serve that economy. Quick shot of an accidental discovery on our way somewhere else. As another photog once commented, "it's the surprises o

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Dag, You need to stick to whales and kiddie porn, or come out and meet a 7 bottom plow in Iowa. We have states here with more acres in corn than you can imagine. I suspect more than all the land that can be farmed in your country. Regards, Bob S. On 7/23/06, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wow,

RE: OT: global warming

2006-07-23 Thread Jack Davis
My wife would go into a slobbering panic and threaten gloom and doom upon me if I didn't knock it off. Now her, I'm afraid of! Jack --- Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm a firm believer in Gaia. > > > > > > > >The planet will kill us

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
Both Canada and the US are major food exporters. In fact the primary source of grain for the world is North America. Both countries export grains and beef by the shipload. Food imports into Canada and the US are almost entirely luxury foods and foods which won't grow in our climate. Also, to M

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread Adam Maas
Tom Reese wrote: > -- Original message -- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>In a message dated 7/23/2006 8:43:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>The problem is that the overpopulation problem isn't in the 1st world >>nations (except Japan). >

Re: New telephoto lenses?

2006-07-23 Thread DagT
Sure, we are too far north to ba able to support ourselves with corn completely (we live about as far north as Fairbanks, Alaska) but I was thinking about other parts of the world, like Ukraine, White Russia etc who have even better farming conditions. As for the other part: Norwegian wealth

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