Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Bryan Vyhmeister
On Sep 16, 2006, at 8:10 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I now personally know three people who have actually ordered a > K10D, at > least one of which ordered some accessories and a lens along with > it. Just > curious who else may have actually ordered the camera, and, if you > care to > shar

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
Oh, it's cumbersome compared to turning an aperture ring. Your hand is already there to support the lens. Wheels are superfluous when you already have other controls on the body to work like DOF preview, shutter, exposure comp, AF settings, etc. And that's from somebody who's used lenses of all kin

RE: Friday Foto Funnie

2006-09-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Abes of Maine (!) Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af P. J. Alling Sendt: 16. september 2006 00:26 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: Friday Foto Funni

Ending speculations about K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Roman
What's the best to stop speculations and enormous expectations like 20-bit color depth and what not. Dry facts, boring specification from Pentax says it all. What camera does, and what not. From what I read I love it, especially being under $1000 for a body. Help yourself at: http://www.pentax

HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? WAS: RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I have finally inventoried all my PK lenses, and I have a total Of 47. 37 Pentax, 10 third party. The pentax are mostly All primes, K/M. Am I crazy or any others of you out there With that many (about $6000 worth ) just in Pentax K mount lenses? I think I will be getting a K10D too but I have been

Re: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread Jon Myers
Coolness! I just built a roll-up 2m J-pole I'm taking with me on a hiking trip in the Shining Rock Wilderness (Nantahala NF area) next week (Also bringing a K1000 and a few lenses, of course!). Gonna string the antenna up in a tree and see if I can hit the Mount Mitchell (actually on Clingman, I t

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread David S.
Lawrence Kwan wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, David S. wrote: > >>Stores out here in western Canada do not have Pricing from Pentax yet & >>are also not taking orders yet. > > > Cameracanada.com is taking pre-orders at C$1,049.88. It is located in > London, Ontario; so you may be able to save on

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread graywolf
What's the 60's? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- D Brooks wrote: > Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Depending on which variety of Amanitas it might be. Some are >

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:56 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: >> I had both at the same time. I don't recall that the A50/1.4 was >> substantially smaller than the FA50/1.4, or any lighter. Personally, >> I prefer the FA model, but the A model was a fine lens too. > > It definitely felt larger to use

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread David Savage
At 01:56 PM 17/09/2006, Digital Image Studio wrote: >On 17/09/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I had both at the same time. I don't recall that the A50/1.4 was > > substantially smaller than the FA50/1.4, or any lighter. Personally, > > I prefer the FA model, but the A model w

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Are we still debating this? On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:12 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > Using a dial on a camera body to control the aperture > is nuts to me. I don't see it as an advantage either. > To me it seems cumbersome and ridiculous. Six years ago I felt the same way. But now I find the on-body

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread David Savage
At 01:52 PM 17/09/2006, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >Are we still debating this? No, were discussing it, because some people still don't feel comfortable with on body aperture control. >On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:12 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > > > Using a dial on a camera body to control the aperture >

Re: It is ingenious! Was: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So you are saying a 22 bit ADC is overkill. Wonder if Pentax knows that? > BTW, Rob's explanation was clearer, but still not documented for my > curiosity. A theoretically perfect 22 bit ADC should be able to resolve 4,194,304 voltage levels betwe

Re: Peso One for Steady

2006-09-16 Thread graywolf
A masochist? -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- P. J. Alling wrote: > What are you when you use three? > > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I've found that two cameras make you a pro eve

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had both at the same time. I don't recall that the A50/1.4 was > substantially smaller than the FA50/1.4, or any lighter. Personally, > I prefer the FA model, but the A model was a fine lens too. It definitely felt larger to use, having

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The ideal mount for an interchangeable lens digital sensor camera has a wider diameter with respect to the format diagonal. Olympus' Pen F mount was relatively small diameter, designed to meet the requirements of a film body. G On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > I do kinda won

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thanks, guys. It would have to be a *really* compelling lens to convince me that it was worth purchasing. I've moved my entire lens kit to FA/DA series spec, with the exception of the A50/2.8 macro and Zeni 16 FE. Although I sometimes feel I should get a Lensbaby for the fun of it. Godfrey

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 16, 2006, at 5:34 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > I agree the size is limited by the element diameters but there is a > lot of fat on the FA 50/1.4, more so than the A version, if one could > be built similar to the FA77 form factor it would be more compact. I had both at the same time.

Re: It is ingenious! Was: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-16 Thread graywolf
So you are saying a 22 bit ADC is overkill. Wonder if Pentax knows that? BTW, Rob's explanation was clearer, but still not documented for my curiosity. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof"

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread graywolf
Over-all-magnification = subject-size : image-size. The size of intermediate things like sensors or negatives have nothing to do with DOF. They do however affect the quality of the image. Also almost all DOF charts are calculated for an 8x10 print viewed at 10 inches. That is the standard, alth

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, David S. wrote: > Stores out here in western Canada do not have Pricing from Pentax yet & > are also not taking orders yet. Cameracanada.com is taking pre-orders at C$1,049.88. It is located in London, Ontario; so you may be able to save on PST (assuming that you are not in

Re: K10D sensitivity?

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Lawrence Kwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Jens Bladt wrote: > But isn't it true that ISO 3200 in some cameras is just ISO 1600 pushed to > simulate ISO 3200? Not sure about *istD*, but apparently many Canon's > were like this from reading at dpreview (they calle

Re: Who can translate Swedish for us?

2006-09-16 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Bertil Holmberg wrote: > Things are looking good for Pentax right now. Eight supersonic lenses > coming up. Now, where is that medium format camera? Are you sure that those eight lenses displayed in the brochure are the upcoming USM lenses? Not by my interpretation. The USM

Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't believe in labels man. I have two identical glass jars in my pantry, one containing table salt and one castor sugar, I know which is which but they aren't labeled, it's fun when I point visitors to the sugar :-) -- Rob Studdert HURS

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Digital Image Studio wrote: > Given it's 1/3 of a stop slower, but less expensive than the FA 20/2.8 > (About 2/3rds the cost) and a third the size, I really can't see the > complaints about the 21 DA. The 70 is quite reasonable too, giving me a

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
Reduced complexity in the lens perhaps, and added complexity into the body. Obviously the camera functions without it, but is it really an advantage? To me, no. -Brendan --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's no significant advantage to eliminating the > aperture ring > other

Re: K10D sensitivity?

2006-09-16 Thread Lawrence Kwan
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Jens Bladt wrote: > Is it true that the K10D only offers ISO 100-1600? (no over ride to 3200 > like the D) But isn't it true that ISO 3200 in some cameras is just ISO 1600 pushed to simulate ISO 3200? Not sure about *istD*, but apparently many Canon's were like this from re

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You may not like it. You're entitled to your preferences, as is Rob. > But it's neither ridiculous or cumbersome. In fact, it's considerably > less cumbersome than an aperture ring. And that's from someone who > used aperture rings for forty

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread David S.
Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I now personally know three people who have actually ordered a K10D, at > least one of which ordered some accessories and a lens along with it. Just > curious who else may have actually ordered the camera, and, if you care to > share, from where did you order it? > > > Sh

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
You may not like it. You're entitled to your preferences, as is Rob. But it's neither ridiculous or cumbersome. In fact, it's considerably less cumbersome than an aperture ring. And that's from someone who used aperture rings for forty years. Paul On Sep 17, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Brendan MacRae

Re: PESO - Piaggio

2006-09-16 Thread Adam Maas
Thanks -Adam David J Brooks wrote: > I have my Nikon 70-200 VR on all the time and pan quite a bit with the > flat work, equine wise. Seems to work that way, so i'd suspect it > would Pentax wise. > > BTW Adam, nice shot > > Dave > > Quoting Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>Adam

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Adam Maas
I do kinda wonder why they didn't use a variation of that mount for 4/3rds. -Adam Doug Miles wrote: > Seems we've visited this place before... Reminding me there was a 38mm > f/1.8, 40mm f/1.4, 60mm f/1.5, and 70mm f/2 all made for 18x24mm coverage... > by Olympus for the Pen F. They didn't do a

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Adam Maas
Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 17/09/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>IMO there is nothing wrong with the pancakes. In fact I'm debating myself >>buying the 21mm. With the tiny 21mm I can have the camera in my pocket and >>flip it up and shoot from the hip. Don't know if I'll ever d

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Adam Maas
Ason one of the guys pushing a D-FA 50, it has nothing to do with the aperture ring and everything to do with loving my LX. -Adam Brendan MacRae wrote: > I agree... > As I was telling Godfrey, the loss of the aperture > ring is just crazy to me. I noticed in the question > posed by Shel about t

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
No, it wasn't Marnie ... but in all honesty, I'd not post it publicly on the list if it were. It would be her choice to do that. It's a woman I know, but I was just guessing that she may have ordered from you. She may have ordered before your announcement. Well, my meds are kicking in, time t

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
There's no significant advantage to eliminating the aperture ring other than reduced complexity. But, likewise, there is no advantage to retaining it. The camera functions just as well without it. Paul On Sep 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > I agree... > As I was telling Godfrey,

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm going to have to get used to not having them I > suppose, but I don't see the advantage...I just don't > see it. That's because the advantage is not yours, it's to the manufacturer, they can produce a cheaper interface and then add a he

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
Rob...I'm totally with you on this. Using a dial on a camera body to control the aperture is nuts to me. I don't see it as an advantage either. To me it seems cumbersome and ridiculous. -Brendan --- Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/09/06, Paul Stenquist > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hi Shel, You know me personally. You've just been spared the pain of seeing me:-). Yes, Bob Sullivan was one of the few orders B&H took. I tried to order and asked them about that. They admitted a mistake. They soon changed their "Out of Stock" nomenclature to "New- coming soon." I think th

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread John Celio
> Sullivan ordered from B&H, another from John Celio @ Reed's Camera here in > the East Bay. I don't specifically recall where the third person ordered > from, although I think it was from John as she's local.. Only one person so far has asked for me and mentioned you, Shel. Thanks very much for

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Brendan MacRae
I agree... As I was telling Godfrey, the loss of the aperture ring is just crazy to me. I noticed in the question posed by Shel about the 50mm lenses that I'm not alone in this. Many folks wanted a 50mm for digital as long as it came with an aperture ring. I'm going to have to get used to not hav

Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page

2006-09-16 Thread David Savage
On 9/17/06, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 17/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LOL. > > > > Tom, Adam & Rob received an ear bashing & were labeled "negative" a > > couple of days ago for saying that. > > > > I guess we can add Paul to the list of negative nay

Re: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread John Mullan
Amateur Extra KD2L - Original Message - From: "Jon Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 6:48 PM Subject: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer) > Collin, are you a ham too? > > I wonder how many hams we have on this list. :) > > I'm a techni

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Mishka
i did exactly the same. mishka On 9/16/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ordered and paid for a K10D from Amazon, which seems to be the only > internet provider who is taking orders. I've also asked to be > notified when available from B&H. I would prefer to buy from them, > but t

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I didn't order the camera - three people I personally know did, and you're now the fourth person I know, although I don't know you personally. Bob Sullivan ordered from B&H, another from John Celio @ Reed's Camera here in the East Bay. I don't specifically recall where the third person ordered fro

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I ordered and paid for a K10D from Amazon, which seems to be the only internet provider who is taking orders. I've also asked to be notified when available from B&H. I would prefer to buy from them, but they are not taking orders. According to them, the few they took were a mistake. Where d

Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I now personally know three people who have actually ordered a K10D, at least one of which ordered some accessories and a lens along with it. Just curious who else may have actually ordered the camera, and, if you care to share, from where did you order it? Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Hmm. I think I want the A28/2 as well. Much more practical than the Vivitar, although I wonder which is better. We may never know. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 11:01 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Well, now I feel a little better - at least not so alone in my > foolishness. > > Shel > > > >> [Orig

Re: Ordered a K10D

2006-09-16 Thread Gonz
I ordered five, one for everyone in my family, plus one more backup. :) Not. I'm waiting for the (hopefully) eventual price drop and to see what kind of image quality we are going to get from 10Mp. rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I now personally know three people who have actually ordered a K

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I know that aperture dials are not your preference. I also am very familiar with the purpose of an aperture ring. I was turning them when you were still in knickers. But I responded to your post in like manner. I own a number of lenses that have aperture dials rather than aperture rings. I

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, now I feel a little better - at least not so alone in my foolishness. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Digital Image Studio > Shel Belinkoff < > > I'd much prefer the SMCP-A 28/2.0 that, for some reason I stupidly sold a > > year or so back. I found the 28/2.0 to be a bit soft

Re: Peso One for Steady

2006-09-16 Thread Rick Womer
Very nice, Dave! I like the soft light. Have you considered a tighter crop, maybe just above the headlights and just in front of the bumper? Rick --- David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4947803 > > Horse show season, for me anyway, is pretty

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But you no longer need the ring to set the aperture. The dial works > just fine. It might work fine, but it's not my preference, my preference is to use the aperture ring, as it is on my Mamiya and Leicas. I'm not happy that I am being steer

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
I always assume mushrooms are poisonous, there are a number of varieties that are quite edible, which have mimics which will kill you dead quickly or slowly. I have a friend who's a mycologist, he collects mushrooms to eat occasionally . If he gets just one he's not sure of in a batch he thro

Re: Pentax 750Z

2006-09-16 Thread John Celio
> Just got one of these (refurbished grade A stock) for my son - anyone > have one? Any comments? I LOVED that camera when we had it in stock at my store. The lens was very sharp, and the super macro mode was a lot of fun to play with on slow days. It was a little difficult to sell because of i

RE: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread Bill Owens
KG4LOV, not active at the present time. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mat Maessen Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:45 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer) On 9/16/06, Jon Myers <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
But you no longer need the ring to set the aperture. The dial works just fine. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 10:29 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 17/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Aperture ring? For what? > > You've already forgotten? It's simply one of the two primary con

Re: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread Mat Maessen
On 9/16/06, Jon Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collin, are you a ham too? > > I wonder how many hams we have on this list. :) There's a bunch of us lurking around here. I've got my Extra ticket. -Mat, N2NJZ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml

RE: Windows XP Media Edition Slide Show

2006-09-16 Thread Bill Owens
I didn't mention that some of the shots need to be deleted. I was using the MZ-S at the time and some of the shots of the afterglow (burning at night to light up a tethered balloon like a light bulb) show a fair amount of camera movement. Phyllis has a few days off for fall break in October, so I

Re: Windows XP Media Edition Slide Show

2006-09-16 Thread D Brooks
Sounds like your back Bill. Dave Quoting Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just dug out an old CD of a local hot air balloon rally and played it as a > slide show on the media edition. It's really neat. Landscape oriented > shots zoom to slightly more than fit the screen and portrait oriente

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread D Brooks
Quoting Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Depending on which variety of Amanitas it might be. Some are > psychoactive, some can kill you. Is that why i have a problem remembering the 60's. G Dave > Paul > On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:30 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > >> P. J. Alling wrote: >> >>> My

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aperture ring? For what? You've already forgotten? It's simply one of the two primary controls that photographers have over how a photographic exposure is set. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread P. J. Alling
IIRC there were people with 77's on the list when the 31mm was announced. In fact the 43 and 77 look like the work of the same design team. The 31 is almost a different family all together. Mark Roberts wrote: >P. J. Alling wrote: > > > >>Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sat,

Re: Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Jon Myers wrote: > Collin, are you a ham too? There are a few of us. I'm also a Technician license, but I haven't been active much the last two years or so. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Who can translate Swedish for us?

2006-09-16 Thread Gonz
Wow. Looks like they are converting all the DA lense lineup to be USM? I better start saving up, or selling my non-USM DA lenses now! rg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It was on the dpreview forum: > > Please see the K10D pentax catalogue at > http://www.pentax.no/accounts/433774/File/Datablade

Windows XP Media Edition Slide Show

2006-09-16 Thread Bill Owens
I just dug out an old CD of a local hot air balloon rally and played it as a slide show on the media edition. It's really neat. Landscape oriented shots zoom to slightly more than fit the screen and portrait oriented shots scroll to more than fill the screen, yet also end up showing the entire ph

Re: Pentax 750Z

2006-09-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/16/06, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I actually managed to bend the hinge on a Canon PowerShot G1. > It (the hinge) still worked, but it was very stiff to operate, > and the screen didn't lie quite flat when in the closed position. > It eventually got replaced when the camera had

Re: Pentax 750Z

2006-09-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/16/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Scott Loveless wrote: > > > Typical P&S shutter lag. > > Standard Pentax P&S gripe. Thanks for the long report. Any comments on > the lens? > The lens is fine, as far as I can tell. It is SMC and the front element

Re: Pentax 750Z

2006-09-16 Thread Scott Loveless
On 9/16/06, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > An ugly time of day, for sure... > I'm now polishing off my second lager of the evening. Once again, life is good. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/ma

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Depending on which variety of Amanitas it might be. Some are psychoactive, some can kill you. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:30 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > P. J. Alling wrote: > >> My that's pretty, and probably poisonous. Nice capture and >> rendition. > > Poisonous or hallucinogenic, depending o

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 04:16:42PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > John Francis wrote: > > >On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 01:28:26PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Ryan Brooks wrote: > >> > >> >Adam Maas wrote: > >> >> At f2.4, the 70 is about perfect for me. Essentially the same length > >> >> and > >

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread John Francis
By one measure, you could actually say the shot from the small-sensor camera actually has more "magnification", as you're magnifying a smaller image on the sensor to fill the same sized print. But, despite that, the small-sensor camera still ends up with more DOF. On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 04:46:5

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Aperture ring? For what? On Sep 16, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 17/09/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> IMO there is nothing wrong with the pancakes. In fact I'm debating >> myself >> buying the 21mm. With the tiny 21mm I can have the camera in my >> pocket

Hams (was Re: OT: Bummer)

2006-09-16 Thread Jon Myers
Collin, are you a ham too? I wonder how many hams we have on this list. :) I'm a technician class ham, soon to upgrade to general or extra. --- Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 06:40 PM 9/16/2006, you wrote: > >Message: 5 > >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:22:24 +0100 > >From: Cot

Re: OT: Bummer

2006-09-16 Thread Jon Myers
Wow!!! Someone got a steal of a deal there. --- Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I came close last night, but just missed it. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&item=120029822978&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEDW%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > Sincerely, > > Collin Brendemu

Re: It is ingenious! Was: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-16 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 05:45:09PM -0400, graywolf wrote: > Can you provide a reference on that? A quick goggle search* finds > nothing the contradicts my explanation. Your comment may be accurate on > the quantum level but I do not think we can quite apply it to current > image sensors, but wou

Re: PESO - Piaggio

2006-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
I have my Nikon 70-200 VR on all the time and pan quite a bit with the flat work, equine wise. Seems to work that way, so i'd suspect it would Pentax wise. BTW Adam, nice shot Dave Quoting Doug Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Adam Maas wrote: >> It certainly appears to. I do have to read th

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
P. J. Alling wrote: > My that's pretty, and probably poisonous. Nice capture and rendition. Poisonous or hallucinogenic, depending on who you ask. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Peso One more for Steady

2006-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4948475 Not much of a car shot, but i liked the message. istD, 16-45 f4, Raw-CS conversion. Comments?? Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: PESO: Fungus

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Jens Bladt wrote: > My *ist D has caught a huge fungus today: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/24451/ Woohoo! They'll love you in Amsterdam. :-) I haven't seen an /Amanita Muscaria/ since college. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.ne

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: >Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > >>On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Shel Belinkoff wrote: >> From: Kostas Kavoussanakis Yes Shel, but there is a way out of slow, variable aperture zooms, and that's fast primes. What is the way out of slow primes? >>>Fast primes ... >> >

Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
David Savage wrote: > I guess we can add Paul to the list of negative naysayers. This whole line of conversation reminds me of Spiro Agnew's and Richard Nixon's "Nattering Nabobs of Negativism". And of the classic anagram of Mr. Agnew's name. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO - Piaggio

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Franklin
Adam Maas wrote: > It certainly appears to. I do have to read the instructions though. > Powell Hargrave wrote: >> Nice shot. >> So panning with SR on works? I think Pentax recommends turning it off when >> panning. >>> http://static.flickr.com/98/244670476_9452ca7abf_b.jpg >>> K100D, SMC-M 50mm

Re: K10D extra tidbits from Japanese page

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LOL. > > Tom, Adam & Rob received an ear bashing & were labeled "negative" a > couple of days ago for saying that. > > I guess we can add Paul to the list of negative naysayers. I prefer to be labeled as realistic, cautious and practical, you

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMO there is nothing wrong with the pancakes. In fact I'm debating myself > buying the 21mm. With the tiny 21mm I can have the camera in my pocket and > flip it up and shoot from the hip. Don't know if I'll ever do it, but the > idea is tempting.

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Larson, who used to frequent the list more frequently, had one I > believe. And if my failing memory hasn't let me down, I had a chance to > use it while we were in Santa Barbara a few years ago. Nice lens, although > I'd much prefer

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Since we're getting 1.8 zooms, I think we'll get some fast primes as well. It all hinges on camera sales. If the demand for a higher spec camera like the K10 exceeds demand for the K100, Pentax will answer the market's call. It's just good business. Paul On Sep 16, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Digital I

RE: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Tim Øsleby
IMO there is nothing wrong with the pancakes. In fact I'm debating myself buying the 21mm. With the tiny 21mm I can have the camera in my pocket and flip it up and shoot from the hip. Don't know if I'll ever do it, but the idea is tempting. I imagine myself walking around slick pony tail, dark shad

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Eric Featherstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 16/09/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm talking about the lens diameter, not the barrel diameter. For example, > > the diameter of the front element of my 35mm Summicron (f/2.0) is about > > 1-inch while the front e

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Doug Miles
Seems we've visited this place before... Reminding me there was a 38mm f/1.8, 40mm f/1.4, 60mm f/1.5, and 70mm f/2 all made for 18x24mm coverage... by Olympus for the Pen F. They didn't do as much with wide angles; their "fast" 25mm coming in at f/2.8. Unfortunately these lenses are not applicable

Re: Peso One for Steady

2006-09-16 Thread David J Brooks
Not sure, but i don;t think so. Most of them today were from the big 3. Dave Quoting Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > David J Brooks wrote: >> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4947803 >> > > Pretty cars. I don't know much about '20s and '30s cars. Is that front > one a Duesenberg? >

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Talk like what, Rob? Do you mean the more ready acceptance of slower > lenses? I think we've seen that "dumbing down" with the prevalence of > slower, variable aperture zooms. Yes, I fear the fastest lenses we'll see from Pentax from now o

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Of course we can stand to hear objectivity expressed. We're still waiting to here it from certain quarters:-). And that is the point. The *ist cameras were better than many of us expected to see from Pentax. Many of us think this camera will be better. That' s objective. And it's expressed

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because you need a 35.7mm diameter front element for a 50mm f1.4, or a > 41.6mm front element for a 50mm f1.2. The Pentax FA 50mm f1.4 is already > about the smallest on the market, at it's size, I'd suspect the size of > the optics necessary for

Re: 50/1.4 or 1.2 for the DSLR Bodies

2006-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
The Pentax lens is undoubtedly quite a bit lighter, and of course it gives you all the metering options on a DSLR. I suspect that the Vivitar, like all the early Series 1 lenses, is an all-metal little tank. Probably quite heavy. But there's something to be said for that. I love my Series 1

Re: It is ingenious! Was: Does this mean what I think it means?

2006-09-16 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 17/09/06, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you provide a reference on that? A quick goggle search* finds > nothing the contradicts my explanation. Your comment may be accurate on > the quantum level but I do not think we can quite apply it to current > image sensors, but would be intere

RE: OT: Bummer

2006-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
FWIW: I had both the K20/4 and the M20/4 at the same time For a while. I did extensive tests and I couldn't Find any differences (on fine grain film) so I sold The M because I like the feel of the K better, its Certainly no beast, slightly bigger (longer)than say a 50mm/1.4. Tbe M was too small fo

Re: OT: Bummer

2006-09-16 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 06:40 PM 9/16/2006, you wrote: >Message: 5 >Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 23:22:24 +0100 >From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: OT: Bummer >To: "pentax list" >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >On 16/9/06, Collin R Brendemuehl, discombobulated, unlea

Re: popphoto.com k10D

2006-09-16 Thread Tom C
That wasn't the point... Paul... I think you know that. The fact is that some of you can't stand to hear objectivity expressed. Tom C. >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: popphoto.com k10D >Date: Fri, 15 S

RE: Peso One for Steady

2006-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
The DB4 and the DB5, especially the DB4-GT Zagato, have always been my favorite Astons. http://www.astonmartins.com/db4_5_6_s/db4gt_zagato.htm Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > 10 a penny round here! Although I did see a very beautiful DB5 last > week, and they're not so common. --

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