Re: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. So far, I'm liking TAV mode. Paul On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Pensive moment well caught. > IMHO, 1600 ISO worked very well with this rendering. > > Jack > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> K10D, DA 50-200 at 200mm. I set my K10D at f6.3, 1/200th

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor (was Re: Dpreview's D200 jpeg overall conclusion: same problem different attitude?)

2006-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/12/06, Mark Erickson, discombobulated, unleashed: >All Pentax DSLRs so far have used Sony sensors. Pentax had a full frame >design (the mythical MZ-D) that they shelved due to problems with the >sensor. I thus conclude that Pentax will release a full-frame K1D that >uses Sony FF sensor

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 21/12/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: >October 1, 2007. >Hoya issued a press release and while it says an equal partnering, actual >merge format is consulted by UBS Security and Morgan Stanley, taking a form >of Pentax consolidated into Hoya. >It also appears that medical-optics bu

Re: Please everyone set up an email filter

2006-12-21 Thread Cotty
On 20/12/06, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: >I should know better than to get into this, but I've found very few >theaters that can present a movie as well as I can in my home. I have >a dark room with big, comfortable leather chairs positioned 15 feet >from a 61- inch Pioneer p

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread John Celio
> Name of new company is Hoya pentax HD Corporation and scheduled to merge > on > October 1, 2007. Very interesting, and very unexpected. Could be good, could be bad. It's almost not worth speculating, since the merger won't happen for nearly a year, and whatever fruits are produced from that

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread John Celio
>>October 1, 2007. >>Hoya issued a press release and while it says an equal partnering, actual >>merge format is consulted by UBS Security and Morgan Stanley, taking a >>form >>of Pentax consolidated into Hoya. >>It also appears that medical-optics business of both companies was part of >>the syne

Re: OT someone, somewhere......

2006-12-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/21 Thu AM 05:30:14 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT someone, somewhere.. > > Hi! > > > .. is 40 today. > > > > Happy birthday to them, wherever they are... > > With little risk to be mistaken

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Dario Bonazza
http://www.hoya.co.jp/data/current/newsobj-368-pdf.pdf - Original Message - From: "K.Takeshita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 7:59 AM Subject: Pentax and HOYA merging > Nikkei (Japanese equiv of WSJ) is reporting that Pentax and Ho

Sd Cards

2006-12-21 Thread Charles Wilson
Dear All, Thinking of buying the Pentax K10D but would like some clarification about SD cards. Is the maximum card in the K10 D only 2 gig or is it possible to use a 4 gig card. Merry Christmas to the list Regards Charles Wilson Sydney Australia -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@p

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/12/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21/12/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >October 1, 2007. > >Hoya issued a press release and while it says an equal partnering, actual > >merge format is consulted by UBS Security and Morgan Stanley, taking a form > >of Pentax consol

Re: Sd Cards

2006-12-21 Thread Bronek Kozicki
Quoting Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thinking of buying the Pentax K10D but would like some clarification about > SD cards. Is the maximum card in the K10 D only 2 gig or is it possible to > use a 4 gig card. you can use SDHC (High Capacity) card, as I understand not all 4GB cards are c

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/21 Thu AM 04:09:24 GMT > To: "PDML" > Subject: Gourmands on PDML > > I ate too much See's candy this week at work (I'm addicted to peanut brittle > and one of my colleagues brought in two big boxes! > > Anyone else have stories of c

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2006/12/21 Thu AM 07:53:54 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Gourmands on PDML > > Quoting Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I ate too much See's candy this week at work (I'm addicted to peanut brittle > > and one of my colleagues brou

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
So will new cameras be badged "PentHo" or "HoTax" ? Dave On 12/21/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nikkei (Japanese equiv of WSJ) is reporting that Pentax and Hoya are > merging, becoming a large concern of $5B, capable of producing glass > material to camera and optical products. > A

Re: Sd Cards

2006-12-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/12/06, Charles Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear All, > > Thinking of buying the Pentax K10D but would like some clarification about > SD cards. Is the maximum card in the K10 D only 2 gig or is it possible to > use a 4 gig card. The K10D can utilize SDHCcards which are larger than

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread DagT
Pentax is a valuable trademark, and its value is increasing now with the K-series dslrs. I do not think they will leave it. DagT > Fra: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > So will new cameras be badged "PentHo" or "HoTax" ? > > Dave > > On 12/21/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Sd Cards

2006-12-21 Thread J and K Messervy
You can use SDHC cards which I believe go up to 4 gig. - Original Message - From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 8:29 PM Subject: Sd Cards > Dear All, > > Thinking of buying the Pentax K10D but would like some clarification about > SD cards.

RE: My greatest christmas present

2006-12-21 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi Kristian Ein Danke für die Festtagsgrüsse aus Zürich an den Schwarzwäldler. Markus - Hallo Ralf, Dir und allen anderen Mitgliedern unserer newsgroup wünsche ich einen guten Rutsch ins Neue Jahr, das uns allen viel Freude, vor allem aber Gesundheit und und viele Erfolge bringen mög

Re: Enablement - I finally have a superwide!

2006-12-21 Thread J and K Messervy
More than happy to mate. It'll pobably take a while to get here, but I'll post a few shots when it does. - Original Message - From: "Markus Maurer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 9:00 PM Subject: RE: Enablement - I finally have a sup

RE: Enablement - I finally have a superwide!

2006-12-21 Thread Markus Maurer
Hi James would you mind showing some samples of the Sigma mirror lens later? But please no brickwalls :-) I would like to see what I can expect from my Tamron SP 500mm next year on a digital body. thanks Markus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Thibouille
They will not, please read the press release ! 2006/12/21, DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pentax is a valuable trademark, and its value is increasing now with the > K-series dslrs. I do not think they will leave it. > > DagT > > > Fra: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > So will new camera

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread Jostein Øksne
Mark Erickson queried: > Anyone else have stories of culinary excess to report? More than I willingly admit in a public forum. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: OT someone, somewhere......

2006-12-21 Thread Jostein Øksne
Thanks guys. :-) It took me a couple of hours before I was able to access my mail today, thanks to my prankster colleagues at work. They are known to have had fun with other people before, on similar occasions, so I worked late last night. Knowing that none of them are early birds, I was only a li

RE: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk

2006-12-21 Thread Simon King
Many people still smoke in your neck of the woods? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Thursday, 21 December 2006 10:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk K10D, DA 50-200 at 200mm. I se

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 21/12/06, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.hoya.co.jp/data/current/newsobj-368-pdf.pdf Very interesting, note in the table "13. Overview of the Integrating Companies (as of September 30, 2006, non consolidated basis)" under the heading "Major Business Partners" the two comp

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Brian Walters
"HOYA and PENTAX will vertically integrate the design, materials, lenses, processing and module groups in the optics area, which is expected to lead to qualitative structural reform." I think that's English - I recognise some of the words Cheers Brian +++

Auggie Wren's Christmas Story

2006-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Well, kids, it's that time of year again, and it's time for the annual retelling of Auggie Wren's Christmas Story. Although many of you have read or seen this several times, there are a few new people on the list who have not read the story, and there are others who enjoy reading it every year (I

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
On 12/21/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 1 Pint of Newcastle Brown Ale + Fish & chips + salad + 2 hours = Dave > > feeling > > like crap. > > Serves you right. For eating salad. Is that why vegetarians look so blah? Mark? ;-) Dave -- PDML Pentax

RE: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk

2006-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Hi Paul, TAv mode is a nice feature. I spoke to a couple of people who've used it and who were pleased with the results. I really like the photo, BTW. It's simple, almost stark, but the dynamics are great. The straight-backed guy, the verticals in the background, the straight-ahead look from t

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Bertil Holmberg
>> Where does that leave Samsung? It was mentioned at [the end of] the press conference: The press conference concerning HOYA and Pentax and the amalgamation is held. CEO Suzuki of HOYA and president Urano of Pentax from the left HOYA Ltd. and Pentax Ltd. held the press conference concerning

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Bertil Holmberg
> Pentax is a valuable trademark, and its value is increasing now > with the K-series dslrs. I do not think they will leave it. More info from DCWatch. Twice as large and much more profitable HOYA is swallowing Pentax but I'm sure they will keep their trade marks. Will this mean HOYA glass

Re: Sd Cards

2006-12-21 Thread Leon Altoff
I have 2 4 gig Ridata 150X cards for the K10D and they work fine. I haven't been able to find a card reader locally that says it supports the SDHC standard and the few that I have convinced the shops to let me try don't work. So for the time being I use the camera as the card reader. I don't f

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Simpson
My thought is that this new conglomerate still does not have a "household name" consumer electronics component, which is one of the main things that Samsung brings to the table. I still see the Pentax-Samsung synergy thing as being very important to the future of Pentax products. -Tom John Ce

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor (was Re: Dpreview's D200 jpeg overall conclusion: same problem different attitude?)

2006-12-21 Thread Patrick Genovese
I don't think that pentax will go down that route any time soon because... 1. Their current lens lineup and roadmap seem heavily biased towards APS-C If they had FF plans i think they would be releasing FF capable lenses. 2. The technical demands FF makes on optical design make good FF optics exp

Re: Auggie Wren's Christmas Story

2006-12-21 Thread frank theriault
On 12/21/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, kids, it's that time of year again, and it's time for the annual > retelling of Auggie Wren's Christmas Story. It wouldn't be Christmas without it! Thanks, Shel. ;-) cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Car

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor (was Re: Dpreview's D200 jpeg overall conclusion: same problem different attitude?)

2006-12-21 Thread Bronek Kozicki
Quoting Patrick Genovese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't think that pentax will go down that route any time soon because... neither me, and I completly agree with your reasoning. Actually, I was going to write something similar, but you saved me the trouble ;) B. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

Re: DCPDML Report, or I don't know why I hang out with you guys

2006-12-21 Thread Beaker
Thanks all! Cotty- I heard a bit about Grandfather Mountain on Saturday, it got me interested. Your gallery increased interest, Thanks! Interested in more punishment? There is a bigger set on Flickr, http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/sets/72157594414463840/ Cheers Beaker On Dec 2

Re: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very few, but more than in L.A. or New York. Far less than in most European cities. Paul On Dec 20, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Simon King wrote: > Many people still smoke in your neck of the woods? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Paul Stenq

Re: OT someone, somewhere......

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Happy Birthday, Jostein. Hope it gets better as the day goes on:-). Paul On Dec 21, 2006, at 6:10 AM, Jostein Øksne wrote: > Thanks guys. :-) > > It took me a couple of hours before I was able to access my mail > today, thanks to my prankster colleagues at work. They are known to > have had fun wi

Re: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >MPEG-3 can be fairly lossy or fairly tight, depends what bit rate you >use in rendering it ... much like JPEG. 196Kbps MP3s are not very >lossy at all. 196 kbps files are supposedly the equal of broadcast FM stereo radio. You can got to even higher bit rates for eve

Re: PESO; A smoke on the sidewalk

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Shel. Yes, TAV can save a lot of fumbling in changing light or when moving from sun to shadow. For this kind of shooting, I usually want a fast shutter speed and a big stop, so I'd much rather change the ISO when the light varies. Paul On Dec 21, 2006, at 7:34 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: >

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread mike wilson
> > From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/12/21 Thu PM 12:13:47 GMT > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: Re: Gourmands on PDML > > On 12/21/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 1 Pint of Newcastle Brown Ale + Fish & chips +

Re: Auggie Wren's Christmas Story

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Shel. It wouldn't be Christmas without it. Paul On Dec 21, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Well, kids, it's that time of year again, and it's time for the annual > retelling of Auggie Wren's Christmas Story. Although many of you have > read > or seen this several times, there ar

Re: PESO - Contemplating Cheese

2006-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
What would a PESO be without a suggestion to crop by Ken Waller ;-)) I played around with a crop like that before posting the pic. Wasn't sure that I liked it. Didn't really dislike it either. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Kenneth Waller > Another cheesy photo from Shel ! ;+) I like i

Ruth Bernhard dead at 101

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Shell
Ruth Bernhard has died at the age of 101. John Sexton sent this out yesterday morning. "Those of you who knew Ruth will understand completely when I say that Ruth was truly one-of-a-kind. People who did not know her firsthand can find her inspiration in the legacy of photographs she leaves b

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Simpson
Hi: Im kinda' new here, but one of the things I picked up in passing is that the K-mount might be fundamentally incompatible with a full-frame DSLR? Or did I miss something? If I didnt, please explain to me what the issue is, as I was under the impression that if you put a sensor the size of

Re: PESO - Contemplating Cheese

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
I can almost smell it. Cheers, Dave On 12/21/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yesterday was the first day in a while that my camera went with me while > running some errands. Grabbed this one at a local market ... comments > welcome, of course. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pi

Re: PESO - Contemplating Cheese

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
On 12/21/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/contemplatingcheese.html > > Ah, but do they have Camembert? > (And I don't care how runny it is...) > ;-) Deep fried? Dave (Never had it, but it sounds like a coronary triumph)

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
On 12/21/06, mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Serves you right. For eating salad. > > > > Is that why vegetarians look so blah? > > You should see the poor buggers who drink NBA exclusively. It's not know as > "Journey Into Space" for nothing. > > Nor is it made in Newcastle any more

Re: Auggie Wren's Christmas Story

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: >On 12/21/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, kids, it's that time of year again, and it's time for the annual >> retelling of Auggie Wren's Christmas Story. > >It wouldn't be Christmas without it! > >Thanks, Shel. For those who don't read T.O.P., here's

RE: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor (was Re: Dpreview's D200 jpegoverall conclusion: same problem different attitude?)

2006-12-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The 645D body, lenses, cost, and production numbers will be lower than a FF DSLR body would so whats the point? They are proceeding with that aren't they? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Genovese Sent: Thursday, December 21, 200

Re: PESO - Contemplating Cheese

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
Probably leaning on his shopping trolley. Dave On 12/21/06, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting the way the guy is bent over, why is that... and the hat > and coat in Sunny California? > Regards, Bob S. > > On 12/20/06, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yesterday wa

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
The main argument at the moment is SR, as it is in the K100/10D, wouldn't work. Supposedly current full frame Pentax lenses projected image circle wouldn't be large enough to cover the moving sensor. As some people think that SR is more useful than a FF sensor, that's their reason for thinking Pen

RE: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount?

2006-12-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Just another advantage for putting IS in the lenses, rather than he body. If what your saying is true, and it sounds like it could be, how does the current SR work with the current lenses that are only designed to cover APS? Do you have to use only FF lenses to use SR on the current APS format DSLR

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging/Tidbits

2006-12-21 Thread K.Takeshita
http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PentaxHoya.html Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread Bronek Kozicki
Quoting Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Im kinda' new here, but one of the things I picked up in passing is that > the K-mount might be fundamentally incompatible with a full-frame DSLR? > Or did I miss something? If I didnt, please explain to me what the issue > is, as I was under the impressio

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount?

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
On 12/21/06, J. C. O'Connell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just another advantage for putting IS in the lenses, > rather than he body. If what your saying is true, > and it sounds like it could be, how does the current > SR work with the current lenses that are only designed > to cover APS? I guess

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging/Tidbits

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
I wonder if Hoya's "HMC" filters will now get the Pentax SMC treatment. *That* would be nice! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
David Savage wrote: >The main argument at the moment is SR, as it is in the K100/10D, >wouldn't work. Supposedly current full frame Pentax lenses projected >image circle wouldn't be large enough to cover the moving sensor. > >As some people think that SR is more useful than a FF sensor, that's >th

Re: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> .MP3 is the file extension for an MPEG-3 file. It is the compressed file > all the kids are using on their IPOD type devices. Really lossy, the > sound is really compressed too, but it does make a movie downloadable. > Means something like Motion Picture Electronic Graphic file. It is the > audio

Re: Rechargable CR-V3 batteries for *ist-D

2006-12-21 Thread Cory Papenfuss
> I've been using Sanyo 2500mAH NiMH (model HR-3U) for several months in > a *istD. Occasionally the battery meter in the camera shows about a > half-charge with freshly recharged batteries. I keep reminding myself > that a set of NiMH batteries yields 4.8V, not 6, and figure that's the > reason

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread Tom Simpson
Well, they wouldn't have to go quite full-frame to get major improvements in IQ and still have enough leeway for SR excursion for the sensor, right? How about, say, a 9/10-size sensor with x1.1 crop factor? Just what is max X/Y excursion of the sensor with SR engaged, anyway? Tom in SC Mar

Hoya - Pentax Merger?

2006-12-21 Thread Dave Kennedy
See here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0612/06122101pentaxhoyamerge.asp or here: http://www.hoya.co.jp/data/current/newsobj-368-pdf.pdf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Dpreview's D200 jpeg overall conclusion: same problem different

2006-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: > Tom C wrote: > >> Well let's just speculate that Pentax does produce a FF body. That > does not >> necessarily mean that APS size lenses go down the tubes does it? The > camera >> could sense or one could set a switch indicating that a smaller format > lens >> is bein

TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Shell
On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> > say what? > > actually I have a tiny little radio that has headphones > for traveling and a single earbud thing for my cell phone that > I keep losing. > > I have a phonograph and actually have a thing that plays CD's /tapes > and has > a

Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park

2006-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Really interesting shot. Like it a lot!! I'm kind of surprised someone hasn't installed an EOS filter on PDML. =) Jack --- ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5358414 > > > I thought I would see what would happen if I shot in color with and >

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Manufacturing/Marketing Electronics, (including K mount cameras as long a Pentax does I would guess). Cotty wrote: > On 21/12/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >> October 1, 2007. >> Hoya issued a press release and while it says an equal partnering, actual >> merge format is con

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
I vote for Ho-Tax. Just because. David Savage wrote: > So will new cameras be badged "PentHo" or "HoTax" ? > > Dave > > On 12/21/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nikkei (Japanese equiv of WSJ) is reporting that Pentax and Hoya are >> merging, becoming a large concern of $5B, cap

Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park

2006-12-21 Thread David Savage
I like this. Neat effect. Kinda' looks like everything is on fire. Dave On 12/21/06, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5358414 > > > I thought I would see what would happen if I shot in color with and > orange filter and then > converted to BW

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging/Tidbits

2006-12-21 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006, Mark Roberts wrote: > I wonder if Hoya's "HMC" filters will now get the Pentax SMC treatment. Maybe the super HMC (or whatever they call them). Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Shell wrote: >On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> >> something I've been meaning to ask you electronics types - >> is there a gadget you can attach to your tv to regulate the sound >> so that >> no matter how loud or soft the actual broadcast is you can keep >> it at the s

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor (was Re: Dpreview's D200 jpeg overall conclusion: same problem different attitude?)

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Pentax made FF lenses for years before the APS sensor and have plenty of usable designs. The major problems with FF seem to be most apparent with WA lenses and a properly specified sensor, (and in camera correction), seems to be a better fix than anything else, based on Leicas M8, (who's probl

Wish I'd bought Pentax stock yesterday...

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Up 7.5% before the spoilsports at the Tokyo stock exchange put a halt to trading :) http://news.com.com/Japans+Hoya+snaps+up+Pentax+for+770+million/2100-1047_3-6145349.html?tag=nefd.top -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks Ken, I think "ghastly" is not the word you want -- at least I hope so - as "ghastly" would mean 'awful" ! LOL! ghostly is perhaps what you meant? anyway, glad you liked it ann K.Takeshita wrote: >On 12/20/06 10:52 PM, "ann sanfedele", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>http://www.pho

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
I'm having trouble with identifying Shake Reduction as a problem for full frame sensor cameras. Everybody is talking like the shake reduction movement is centimeters of travel. Look at some of the side by side comparisons. Remember some of the old time discussions about 'circle of confusion' at

Sky of a caramel...

2006-12-21 Thread Roman
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20061221151120 ^^^ although it's HDR image, it surprised me as well. I couldn't expect the sky would be - a caramel like. -- new photos ever so often... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/p

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
There's an unfounded belief based on psuedo science that you need a really wide lens mount, (and different registration distance) for proper illumination of a FF imaging sensor based on the angle of light leaving the lens. Based on the performance of many of Canon's WA lenses, (zooms and prim

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread Perry Pellechia
On 12/21/06, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi: > > Im kinda' new here, but one of the things I picked up in passing is that > the K-mount might be fundamentally incompatible with a full-frame DSLR? > Or did I miss something? If I didnt, please explain to me what the issue > is, as I

Re: OT someone, somewhere......

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Happy Birthday and may you enjoy many more! Regards, Bob S. On 12/21/06, Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks guys. :-) > > It took me a couple of hours before I was able to access my mail > today, thanks to my prankster colleagues at work. They are known to > have had fun with othe

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Don't they have a Ho-Tax in Nevada? On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:44 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > I vote for Ho-Tax. Just because. > > David Savage wrote: >> So will new cameras be badged "PentHo" or "HoTax" ? >> >> Dave >> >> On 12/21/06, K.Takeshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Nikkei (Japanese equi

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread Bob Sullivan
Tom, Similar to my thinking in another thread. I think Max Excursion in SR is 2-3 pixels on a 3000+ pixel sensor. No big deal... Regards, Bob S. On 12/21/06, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, they wouldn't have to go quite full-frame to get major > improvements in IQ and still have

RE: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount?

2006-12-21 Thread Rob Brigham
I think a bigger issue may be that FF + SR in the same body would make for a very large camera. Even if the two couldn't work together, the firmware could automatically crop a certain number of pixels from the edge when SR is turned on. At least for wide angle landscapes where you don't need SR,

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
There's an unfounded belief based on pseudo science that you need a really wide lens mount, (and different registration distance) for proper illumination of a FF imaging sensor based on the angle of light leaving the lens. Based on the performance of many of Canon's WA lenses, (zooms and prim

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Jack Davis
Not if you have a resale license...rim shot!! ;-}} Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't they have a Ho-Tax in Nevada? > On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:44 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > > I vote for Ho-Tax. Just because. > > > > David Savage wrote: > >> So will new cameras be badged "

Re: TV volume, was: My holiday greeting

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Bob Shell wrote: >On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:28 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: > >>something I've been meaning to ask you electronics types - >>is there a gadget you can attach to your tv to regulate the sound >>so that no matter how loud or soft the actual broadcast is you can keep it at >>the same dec

Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park

2006-12-21 Thread K.Takeshita
On 12/21/06 10:52 AM, "ann sanfedele", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think "ghastly" is not the word you want -- at least I hope so - > as "ghastly" would mean 'awful" ! LOL! > > ghostly is perhaps what you meant? Yes, ghostly was more appropriate, although it is still a bit strong. You know w

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, max movement is around 2.5mm on the DX format sensors. That's a lot more than a couple pixels. More like 300 pixels on the 6MP sensors (25.5mm wide sensor is 3008 pixels across). -Adam Bob Sullivan wrote: > Tom, > Similar to my thinking in another thread. I think Max Excursion in SR

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread John Sessoms
> > On 12/21/06 2:20 AM, "Michel Carrère-Gée", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> > Hoya isn't Tokina brand, or Tokina isn't Hoya brand ? >> > > Both Tokina and Kenko are under Hoya. > Hoya is becoming a true optical congromerate. > > Ken That makes sense of something I read recently abo

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K Mount?

2006-12-21 Thread Adam Maas
Actually, you're missing something in your comparison. The mirror. SLR wide angle lens designs are very different from RF designs. Leica SLR lenses actually have one of the longest register distances and Canon one of the shortest. And Leica couldn't go FF on the M because of the issue of corner

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
I've been hoping for a 1.3x crop for some time now. I think that would be within the working area. However if everyone else goes FF Pentax will have to as well. (And in camera SR will become a footnote). Tom Simpson wrote: > Well, they wouldn't have to go quite full-frame to get major > imp

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread P. J. Alling
Probably. Paul Stenquist wrote: > Don't they have a Ho-Tax in Nevada? > On Dec 21, 2006, at 10:44 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: > > >> I vote for Ho-Tax. Just because. >> >> David Savage wrote: >> >>> So will new cameras be badged "PentHo" or "HoTax" ? >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 12/21/06, K.Takesh

Re: Gourmands on PDML

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Mark Erickson wrote: >I ate too much See's candy this week at work (I'm addicted to peanut brittle >and one of my colleagues brought in two big boxes! > >Anyone else have stories of culinary excess to report? > >--Mark > > Alas, yes -- a bit of everything at an all day Christmas party last S

RE: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of K

2006-12-21 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not only that, I bet some or most FF Pentax lenses already have enough margin on their image cirles to accomodate sufficient SR displacements just like the APS lenses have enough for the APS sensors. And even if they didnt and SR was not possible across the full frame, you still could do SR across

Re: Peso: Tompkins Square Park

2006-12-21 Thread ann sanfedele
Thanks all you guys I see what you mean about the fire - but I didn't until you mentioned it. the 19th century look and the patterns of the trees are what I liked about the scene myself. The church in the background is in trouble -- http://www.savestbrigid.com/www/ I'm not religeous at all

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
I wonder what this would do to the availability of Tokina lenses for other camera bodies. Probably little or nothing, but it may be worth some speculation ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Sessoms > I would hope this means that some of Tokina's more desirable lenses will > be avai

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging/Tidbits

2006-12-21 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Ken, Could you elaborate on this. Does it mean that Pentax will use Hoya branded lenses, or that Pentax will use Hoya glass in their Pentax branded lenses, or perhaps something else? Shel > [Original Message] > From: K.Takeshita > http://ca.geocities.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/PentaxHoya.html

Re: OT someone, somewhere......

2006-12-21 Thread Norm Baugher
Happy B-Day Jostein and your coworkers are hilarious!!! Norm Jostein Øksne wrote: > Thanks guys. :-) > > It took me a couple of hours before I was able to access my mail > today, thanks to my prankster colleagues at work. They are known to > have had fun with other people before, on similar occasi

Re: Pentax and HOYA merging

2006-12-21 Thread John Sessoms
> On 21/12/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 21/12/06, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >> >October 1, 2007. >> >Hoya issued a press release and while it says an equal partnering, >> actual >> >merge format is consulted by UBS Security and Morgan Stanley, taking >> a form >> >

Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of KMount?

2006-12-21 Thread Tom C
I haven't taken out my micrometer, but this exactly what I was thinking as well. Tom C. >From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: Official Full Frame Pentax Rumor - Technical Limitations of >KMount? >Date: Thu

Fish and chips (was Re: Gourmands on PDML)

2006-12-21 Thread Mark Erickson
Dave wrote: > > Yeah. I started about 2 hours ago. > > We just had our yearly office Christmas wrap up lunch. > > 1 Pint of Newcastle Brown Ale + Fish & chips + salad + 2 hours > = Dave feeling like crap. > > Cheers, > > Dave (I enjoyed it at the time) Fish and chips always does tha

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