OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat

2007-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
David Pogue's column in today's NY Times takes on the megapixel controversy. He conducted tests in an effort to show that an increase in megapixels doesn't necessarily yield better results. The column is aimed at consumers and the heavy emphasis on megapixels in PS marketing. His first test was

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Something I hadn't thought of earlier is that Lucky may end up with at least some of it. Not sure if that would be good for product quality, but if they get the emulsion right it wouldn't be all bad. Kodak's amateur film is all being made in China

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It's a terrific feature. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: But calling someone who wants to take advantage of

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Something I hadn't thought of earlier is that Lucky may end up with at least some of it. Not sure if that would be good for product quality, but if they get the emulsion right it wouldn't be

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
If you want to buy a camera and take advantage of half of what you paid for by using old lenses on it, that's your choice. No question that you can do some nice work if you know what you're doing. It's a cost/benefit ratio for me. I'm personally OK with having a little more manual

Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery

2007-02-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote: This tree has fascinated me since I first saw it a few months ago. This morning, after the closest thing Philly has had to a snowstorm this winter, I took a detour on my walk to work to see what it looked like.

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00! I'm gonna get one! OK everyone going to GFM: You'll be

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
What is wrong with your brain?, this post was directed at someone who claimed it made sense to buy all new lenses for their PENTAX DSLR for image quality reasons. It does NOT, IMHO. If you are going to have to buy all new lenses for your DSLR, for image quality issues, ( look up the word IF ) then

Re: PESO - Homestead

2007-02-08 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 2/8/2007 10:05:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nice capture. Reminds me of buildings I've seen in Bodie, Ca, The Grand Tetons Wyoming. Kenneth Waller == Thanks, Ken. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: combat photography

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
This one (for the ford Ka) runs it pretty close for bad taste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTCf2Z50ohU Thanks, John. I needed that. First time I laughed out loud all day. I'd seen that before, but I'd forgotten how funny it was... and I *like* cats... :) -Cory --

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
My objective opinion is that this thread is degenerating into a war of harsh words, when you both, in reality, believe exactly the same thing. There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
All those features mentioned below by Godrey DiGiorgi will not make ANY DA/APS lens/format perform as well as a really good FF pentax Lens ( even some of the SMCT screwmounts over 30 years old ) on a good FF camera in terms of sheer image quality. This is what I have been talking about in the

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
So, without consideration of operator error, what exactly does a new lens' feature set do to improve the resultant picture quality? The improved contrast of having autofocus? The increase of sharpness due to not having an auto-aperture? Bullshit. If you're too damn lazy to use

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I think you are confusing some of the DA lenses doing a better job of rendering images vs FF lenses on DSLRs with doing a better job of rendering images vs FF lenses on APS DSLRs. I will say it again, I believe that some, possibly most prime FF Pentax lenses, can and will give a better result on

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I'm not calling anybody lazy or incompetent. But I can't help thinking that you Godfrey, who are a skilled photographer, are able to easily work around most the limitations in the older lenses. You are able to focus accurately without AF. You are able to learn your lenses to the point where you

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
NO lenses are as good on DSLR as they are on best film because DSLRS still dont have the resolution of the highest resolution films. This is most likely a limitation of your APS DSLR, not your lenses. I say most likely because your making an assumption that these lenses do not image as good on

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
All those features mentioned below by Godrey DiGiorgi will not make ANY DA/APS lens/format perform as well as a really good FF pentax Lens ( even some of the SMCT screwmounts over 30 years old ) on a good FF camera in terms of sheer image quality. This is what I have been talking about in

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
There was a hint that because I am finding the options that lenses designed to complement my camera give me are desirable, that i am somehow a lazy photographer. I take umbrage with that. William Robb Understood. I'm curious if there are any lens test sites that compare chromatic aberration

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Not completely, if you dont have the right focal length lens ( proper angle of view ) for a given scene, you cant get full control of the composition. Either you have to use zooms or a bunch of primes if you want to maintain best image quality for a given composition (POV). This is why I seriously

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Bill Owens
Hey! I didn't know you were a Hokie! Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:57 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? My objective opinion is that this thread is

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to your dick ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: 8. februar 2007 20:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: NO

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 2:07 PM, Tim Øsleby, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't understand is why people are so aggressively defending their position in this debate. It is just tools ;-) Isn't it? :-). One day, they say oh it's just a tool and another day, excluding all but their own equipment and how

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 08/02/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to think that Fuji or Ilford may have an interest in Kodak's technology, at the very least. Scott Loveless Fujak? Tom C. Kojak? :) Eric. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Cory Papenfuss
What I don't understand is why people are so aggressively defending their position in this debate. It is just tools ;-) WHO'S A TOOL? I take offense to that... J/K... ;-) -Cory Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wireless Flashless Controller?

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Downloaded the recent firmware to my K10D. Am now wondering if anyone knows of a setting wherein the on-board flash acts only as a controller and doesn't participate in the final flash coverage. Been leafing through the 360 manual and remembering that it was possible with my 'sold' MZ-S. Thanks,

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon. Doesn't a 10 pound 6x7 count for anything around here? William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
JCO wrote: ...but to say these OLD lenses are not as good as DA lenses is really not true. They are DIFFERENT, not better or worse... I can agree with this. It very much depends on shooting conditions, application, aperture, etc. Are the DA lenses *more* demonstrably different/better

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: K.Takeshita Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? What IS consistent is the common theme of I am always superior to you :-). We use Pentax, we are superior. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cory Papenfuss Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? Actually, what I took exception to was the implication that the additional features of newer lenses inherently result higher quality photographs than are possible with older lenses. If I implied that, it

Re: PESO--On My Way to Work: Tree in Cemetery

2007-02-08 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks for all the comments. I agree, this merits further play. My next chance will be Monday. Of course, the snow is already gone... Rick --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Feb 7, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Rick Womer wrote: This tree has fascinated me since I first saw it a

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
-- Original message -- From: Cory Papenfuss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, what I took exception to was the implication that the additional features of newer lenses inherently result higher quality photographs than are possible with older lenses. it's

Re: OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 2:32 PM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting, but doesn't this come back to what i was saying about the limiting factor being the resolution of the printer? True, if you print it yourself. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: On 8/2/07, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: It's Dead Jim. It ain't dead, its just resting. Look, he's nailed it to the pot. It's just pining for the spring! (lovely petals) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
How many times do I have to post it? Optimizing for digital and optimizing for format size are two different things, and I dont believe that the differences you are seeing in some of the DA lenses vs FF lenses of the same focal lengths are due to digital optimization, they are due to Format

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
On 2/8/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Scott Loveless Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon. Doesn't a 10 pound 6x7 count for anything around here? Damn. I'll try again later. -- Scott

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
If you weren't lazy you'd be toting a ten pound Canon. Doesn't a 10 pound 6x7 count for anything around here? William Robb That must have been after you started whimping out then? ;-) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? I'm curious if there are any lens test sites that compare chromatic aberration and other factors of DA lenses with their closest legacy equivalent. I haven't looked but I'd be interested in seeing some data on the

Re: OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat

2007-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
You're probably right, Cotty. But I think the Durst Lambda is reasonably high res. I imagine that what Pogue means is that the files were sized at 400 DPI for printing. I suspect the printer prints at much higher res than that. But it is a laser printer that's designed for pro labs. I don't

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tim Øsleby
I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to your dick ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: 8. februar 2007 20:15 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: NO

Re: OT: What's wrong with my geranium?

2007-02-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/2/07, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed: It's Dead Jim. It ain't dead, its just resting. Look, he's nailed it to the pot. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Thats what I have already posted about a dozen times! jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:26 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? -- Original

Eagle and Fox Fighting

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
Not mine. Some not very well composed, yet interesting photos, of an eagle and fox competing for a carcass. http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2007/02/06/eagle-and-fox-the-rest-of-the-photos/ Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 2:18 PM, Tom C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It makes a weird sort of marketing sense, but I'd like to see numbers and photos showing exactly how the optics of the newer lenses are *demonstrably* better than the legacy lenses, especially considering the image circle from a legacy lens

Re: OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat

2007-02-08 Thread Cotty
On 8/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: David Pogue's column in today's NY Times takes on the megapixel controversy. He conducted tests in an effort to show that an increase in megapixels doesn't necessarily yield better results. The column is aimed at consumers and the heavy

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
NOPE- I stand by what I stated fully. I say that the some of the FF lenses, even really old ones, will be able to create higher quality images than even the very best DA/APS systems, on a good FF digital K mount body! Yes, some lenses will have issues with perpendicularity (most noticably wide

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Wrong again, your confusing digital term when you should be using APS digital term. This brings up a VERY important issue and I would like to here from everyone who has any experience on the matter please, WHICH PENTAX FF LENSES have you had a problem with like WR states here? (and on which dslr

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 2:41 PM, William Robb, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What IS consistent is the common theme of I am always superior to you :-). We use Pentax, we are superior. I of course emphatically have to agree with that! Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS his earlier strong opposite position in another long thread where I stated that in general, 35mm lenses are sharper than MedFormat lenses and he took me to task in saying that I was wrong. Nice try, William Robb. Have you now changed

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread Frits Wüthrich
Wat is that, a Morris Minor? On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:07, Peter Lacus wrote: Hello! yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3 weeks of shooting. This is my favorite picture from the whole lot (~300kB):

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 2:39 PM, Tom C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...but to say these OLD lenses are not as good as DA lenses is really not true. They are DIFFERENT, not better or worse... I can agree with this. It very much depends on shooting conditions, application, aperture, etc. Are the DA lenses

Re: Tokina 28-70/2.8 ATX

2007-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
Scott Loveless wrote: Hey gang. A friend of mine asked me about this lens. She's found one in Nikon mount that she's considering purchasing. It's the older model with 72mm filter threads. I couldn't find much about it via google. Most of the reviews are based on later models with 77mm

Tokina 28-70/2.8 ATX

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
Hey gang. A friend of mine asked me about this lens. She's found one in Nikon mount that she's considering purchasing. It's the older model with 72mm filter threads. I couldn't find much about it via google. Most of the reviews are based on later models with 77mm threads. So I told her I'd

K10D trailing curtain flash problem with fw 1.01

2007-02-08 Thread Basil Vizgin
I got a reports from different peoples that K10D trailing curtain behaviour with internal flash is broken after upgrade to fw. 1.01. As I understand, the correct behaviour of trailing curtain mode is to produce a P-TTL preflash, than open a shutter and make a flash immediately before closing the

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
Bang on! Tom, you are one of the most rational people in this list! I'm impressed. Of course most of people here are rational, too :-). Ken I'm having a relatively good day. :-) Tom C. (who saw Blue Man Group last night) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
K.Takeshita wrote: On 2/08/07 12:45 PM, Adam Maas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kodak wants to sell its film line, not shut it down. I suspect that if they sell it, the film unit will outlast Kodak proper. I understand that Fuji has been instigating return to film (paraphrasing) campaign for

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So distorted and SOFT that I knew I'd never mount it on the K10D again. Immediately sold it on eBay ($440) to one who shoots only film. DA 16~45 f/4 edge performance blew it away at 20mm. Jack --- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread pnstenquist
Nice pic of a nice car. It could benefit from a bit of sharpening. In general, RAW files straigtht from the camera require some sharpening to achieve optimum image quality. It's not an admission of fault. It's part of the process. Paul -- Original message --

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread Eric Featherstone
Most definitely. Eric. On 08/02/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wat is that, a Morris Minor? On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:07, Peter Lacus wrote: Hello! yesterday I finished my first roll of Transcend SD. ;-) It did accomodate 378 .PEF + 2 .jpg pictures during almost 3

RE: Trying to buy the LightRoom

2007-02-08 Thread Bob W
Why are you still running SP1? SP2 is a security upgrade and costs nothing (other than additional storage space). Your stuff is at risk without it. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boris Liberman Sent: 08 February 2007 14:45

SV: K10D and Flash

2007-02-08 Thread Jens Bladt
Yes, isn't it :-) Jens Bladt Nytarkort / Greeting Card: http://www.jensbladt.dk/godtnytaar2007/lydshow.html http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Godfrey DiGiorgi

Re: Anyone use 'The Gimp'?

2007-02-08 Thread Boros Attila
Hello jim, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 12:27:23 PM, you wrote: As subject says. anyone use this Free app? Sorry for the late answer, I had to change the motherboard in my PC, the chipset on the old one went boo-boo. To answer your question first, I don't use 'The Gimp'. About a year ago,

Re: Published...

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
I finally got a chance to see a copy of this issue, and I must say I was very disappointed. Not in Juan's work, but the reproduction didn't do the photos justice. Very poor quality printing and photographic reproduction. Juan Buhler wrote: Hi all, The current issue of the British Black

Re: Wireless Flashless Controller?

2007-02-08 Thread Jan van Wijk
Hi Jack, On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:19:34 -0800 (PST), Jack Davis wrote: Downloaded the recent firmware to my K10D. Am now wondering if anyone knows of a setting wherein the on-board flash acts only as a controller and doesn't participate in the final flash coverage. Yes, of course ... Been leafing

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
Thanks, never used that lens. How was it on film in the same central area? I think I will start to make a list of these observations for reference. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 3:28 PM

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
Obvious questions: :-) Did you compare them both at 20mm f/4 on same same subject, same conditions, etc.? The A was manual focus, the DA is auto focus. Was focus accurte on bothe and were they focussed on the same spot in the image? Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To:

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread Peter Lacus
Hi Frits, Wat is that, a Morris Minor? yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork parked on the wrong side of the street ;-) in front of a bare brick wall... Cheers, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Digital Image Studio
On 09/02/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So distorted and SOFT that I knew I'd never mount it on the K10D again. Immediately sold it on eBay ($440) to one who shoots only film. DA 16~45 f/4 edge performance blew it away at

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread Peter Lacus
Paul, Nice pic of a nice car. It could benefit from a bit of sharpening. In general, RAW files straigtht from the camera require some sharpening to achieve optimum image quality. It's not an admission of fault. It's part of the process. thanks for looking. For me it's sharp enough as is.

Re: Holy Sureshot, I Actually Won Something...

2007-02-08 Thread Boros Attila
Hello Bill, Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 4:43:47 AM, you wrote: And with a Pentax!! The Detroit Zoological Society publishes a quarterly glossy for it's 40,000 plus members called Habitat. Each issue has a themed photo contest and at the end of the year they award a grand prize winner for the

Re: K10D trailing curtain flash problem with fw 1.01

2007-02-08 Thread David Bliss
Basil Vizgin wrote: But with new fw. behaviour is completely different: preflash, than flash on leading curtain (!), than (if flash not fully discharged on leading flash, i.e. still have charge/capacity) flash on trailing curtain. Naturally, we got a multiexposure... Tests have been taken at

Re: Published...

2007-02-08 Thread Tom C
I finally got a chance to see a copy of this issue, and I must say I was very disappointed. Not in Juan's work, but the reproduction didn't do the photos justice. Very poor quality printing and photographic reproduction. Those that can't, publish magazines? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread w__robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? -- What WR has just posted below is very true, BUT IT CONTRADICTS his earlier strong opposite position in another long thread where I stated that in general, 35mm lenses are sharper than MedFormat lenses and

PAW 3

2007-02-08 Thread Micah Kleit
Philadelphia's been very cold, so I have yet to have a chance to get outside with the K10D, but I visited a friend and his son and took some pictures in his house. http://pugnax.smugmug.com/gallery/2312615/1/128387936 Best, Micah -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Micah Kleit
I agree. On Feb 8, 2007, at 1:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time. It's a terrific feature. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 09:19:37AM -0800, Godfrey

Re: Published...

2007-02-08 Thread Adam Maas
Tom C wrote: I finally got a chance to see a copy of this issue, and I must say I was very disappointed. Not in Juan's work, but the reproduction didn't do the photos justice. Very poor quality printing and photographic reproduction. Those that can't, publish magazines? Tom C. Nah,

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Thursday 08 February 2007 22:12, Peter Lacus wrote: Hi Frits, Wat is that, a Morris Minor? yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork parked on the wrong side of the street ;-) in front of a bare brick wall...

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! Except at f/8. Jack --- Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obvious questions: :-) Did you compare them both at 20mm f/4 on same same subject, same conditions, etc.? The A was manual focus, the DA is auto focus. Was focus accurte on bothe and were they focussed on the same spot in

Re: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Interesting. The A-20 f/2.8 wide edges actually had a smeared look about them. Jack --- Digital Image Studio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 09/02/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My A-20mm f/2.8 performed extremely poorly at the wide edges. So distorted and SOFT that I knew I'd never

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
It's one of those things that I wasn't particularly impressed by when I first saw the write-up on the camera. But once you've used it you realise just how convenient it is. On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 06:34:47PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, John. I now use TAv 75% of the time.

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
In the central area, the 20mm may have been slightly more contrasty. Difficult to determine with any certainty. Jack --- J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, never used that lens. How was it on film in the same central area? I think I will start to make a list of these

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying that the format a lens is designed for ( film or sensor size ) does or does not affect affect the maximum lens performance possible of a given focal length? Its time to take a position and stick with it dude. your burning the candle at both ends at this

Re: Offensive photo!

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Of course you don't get it, you're a Canon user... :-P [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/6/2007 9:46:48 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ;-) From a 10k race I photographed a couple of weeks ago... http://www.robertstech.com/run/graphics/pages/7d700259.htm

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Lack of sleep or extreme pride will do it too you. I speak from experience. LOL Jack --- Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob's come to expect everthing to look smeared since he became a father. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: PESO: Made in England

2007-02-08 Thread John Francis
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 10:58:59PM +0100, Frits W?thrich wrote: On Thursday 08 February 2007 22:12, Peter Lacus wrote: Hi Frits, Wat is that, a Morris Minor? yep, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor This picture embodies England for me - beautiful classic craftwork parked

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
what is the Tav exposure mode( how does it operate)? jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Francis Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 5:07 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: NO FS this Friday? It's one of those things that I

RE: NO FS this Friday?- IMPORTANT INFORMATION REQUESTED

2007-02-08 Thread Bob W
Rob's come to expect everthing to look smeared since he became a father. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Interesting. The A-20 f/2.8 wide edges actually had a smeared look about them. Jack --- Digital

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Isn't Film still profitable? As opposed to digital cameras where they sell at a loss and make up the difference on volume. Tom C wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece http://tinyurl.com/373zmj Tom C. -- -- The more

Re: Long-delayed GFM shots

2007-02-08 Thread David J Brooks
On 2/8/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/8/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Featherstone wrote: Or even Firewire-SCSI converters, though they are also more expensive :-( http://www.synchrotech.com/product-1394/firewire-uscsi-conv_01.html Under $80.00!

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
There's been rumors of Forte's demise but their web site is still up and they list a bunch of film products. Scott Loveless wrote: On 2/8/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article1343516.ece

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Or maybe they could spec. a sensor like the Kodak sensor optimized for corner and edge light capture that Leica is using in the M8 without the mistake they made in cover plate/filter stage which is causing so much fun... (It is possible to learn from others mistakes). DagT wrote: Just a

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
Forte's done. Last I heard they were shopping for a buyer. Adam said they may have found one. J and C Photo was offering Classic Pan film, which was made by Forte. Right now, they're closed while they relocate their business. There are more rumors that they may actually be tooling up to coat

Re: Wireless Flashless Controller?

2007-02-08 Thread Jack Davis
Jan, Thanks! I've tried it both ways and get a flashed image with the on-board flash in both setting. The 360 is held in such a way as to not cover the same area, so it's the on-board flash that is lighting the scene.(?) If you have a chance, I'd appreciate any ideas you may have. Jack --- Jan

Re: Kodak May Get Out of Film Sooner

2007-02-08 Thread Scott Loveless
That's the boneheaded management at Kodak for you. Film is a cash cow and Kodak just can't wait to dump it. On 2/8/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't Film still profitable? As opposed to digital cameras where they sell at a loss and make up the difference on volume. Tom C

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? WELL THEN, are you are are you not saying that the format a lens is designed for ( film or sensor size ) does or does not affect affect the maximum lens performance possible of a given focal length? Its time

RE: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread J. C. O'Connell
And furthermore, your comments that PENTAX medimum format lenses resolve quite a bit lower than average is horseshit and it only further supports my point that generally 35mm lenses resolve better the MedFormat lenses do. A few rare exceptions is not general situation. The general situation is

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread P. J. Alling
Wait a minute! Who you callin' a ... Tim Øsleby wrote: I wasn't referring to you personally. I was referring to your dick ;-) Tim Mostly harmless (just plain Norwegian) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cory Papenfuss Sent: 8.

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell Subject: RE: NO FS this Friday? And furthermore, your comments that PENTAX medimum format lenses resolve quite a bit lower than average is horseshit and it only further supports my point that generally 35mm lenses resolve better the

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread K.Takeshita
On 2/08/07 6:05 PM, P. J. Alling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or maybe they could spec. a sensor like the Kodak sensor optimized for corner and edge light capture that Leica is using in the M8 without the mistake they made in cover plate/filter stage which is causing so much fun... (It is

Re: NO FS this Friday?

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Stenquist
In TAv exposure mode, you set your f stop and shutter speed. You then specify a range within which the camera can change ISO. You can select the full range (100 to 1600) or a narrow range. The camera then changes ISO sensitivity as the light varies. Your stop and shutter speed remain

Re: OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat

2007-02-08 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Pogue debunks the megapixel myth. Somewhat You're probably right, Cotty. But I think the Durst Lambda is reasonably high res. I imagine that what Pogue means is that the files were sized at 400 DPI for printing. I

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