Re: Geso: Oars boats and surroundings.

2015-11-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/11/15, Donald Guthrie, discombobulated, unleashed: >Along with the thread Dan has been working this summer we had a version >of boat crewing here. The crews are mostly ad hoc volunteers and are >fueled by beer. They race three boats at a time; the stroke led by a >drummer. My eye

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
I think you misspelled it, Larry. 8-) J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > Jack Davis wrote: >> Yeah! Even the painful ones. > > The internet is for purn. > > > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >

PESO - Christmas Imagined

2015-11-24 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2015/11/christmas-imagined.html Comments always encouraged. Hope you enjoy. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Christmas Imagined

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
At least this guy knows fur: a raccoon and a fox. Both are problematic pests. I don't know if that means we should wear them, but each to their own. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:12 PM, frank theriault wrote: > >

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Would what be purrin? J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > >> On November 24, 2015 3:17:04 PM PST, Jack Davis wrote: >> I think you misspelled it, Larry. 8-) > > Would that be purrin' ? >> >> J >> >> Sent

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
This thread was a lot more interesting when it was about politics. Now it's three times as long and largely nonsensical. Not that I want to see political posts. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Would what be purrin? > > J > > Sent

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Larry Colen
Jack Davis wrote: Yeah! Even the painful ones. The internet is for purn. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread ann sanfedele
It took me a while to figure out that the photo is of the head of a dog next to a pup that looks like a german shepard, or a mix and her pup...possibly supposed to be a wolf? certainly not a fox, mink, sable, etc. animals that would not be harvested for fur garments.. so what doesn't work so

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Larry Colen
On November 24, 2015 3:17:04 PM PST, Jack Davis wrote: >I think you misspelled it, Larry. 8-) Would that be purrin' ? > >J > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> >> Jack Davis wrote: >>> Yeah! Even the

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Bob W-PDML
We can pun for unity with impunity > On 24 Nov 2015, at 14:51, Rick Womer wrote: > > And puns. Photography and puns. > http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote: >> Photography unites us. >> >> Politics

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Very good photojournalism, Frank. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:47 PM, knarf wrote: > Thank you for actually commenting on the photo! LOL! > > Much appreciated. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > frank > > On November 24, 2015 2:10:04 PM EST,

Geso: Oars boats and surroundings.

2015-11-24 Thread Donald Guthrie
Along with the thread Dan has been working this summer we had a version of boat crewing here. The crews are mostly ad hoc volunteers and are fueled by beer. They race three boats at a time; the stroke led by a drummer. My eye wandered a few time to the spectators & the flora/fauna. Comments

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 24 Nov 2015, at 12:21, Bill wrote: > >> On 11/23/2015 11:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM, knarf wrote: >>> I don't normally like right-wing politicians but I make an exception for >>> Barack... >>

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: >>Pentax, Photography, puns and pcats (the p is silent). I love talking about Pentax, photography and puns, but talking about cats is even more divisive than talking about politics. Us doggy folk can't stand all those silly

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
Thank you for actually commenting on the photo! LOL! Much appreciated. :-) Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 2:10:04 PM EST, Bulent Celasun wrote: >Her expression fits the subject. >The composition summarizes the event faithfully. >Overall, an effective

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Ken Waller
You probably meant phelines. -Original Message- >From: Bruce Walker >Subject: Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! > >And cats. > >Pentax, Photography, puns and pcats (the p is silent). > > >On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >>

Dec Pug

2015-11-24 Thread Donald Guthrie
Just sent mine in thanks for the nudge, Brian. Wasn't sure about the theme so I just shot it straight-up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Geso: Oars boats and surroundings.

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
VERY interesting, Don. Thanks for sharing. It seems to me that those boats are canoes, and that they are paddled, like the outrigger canoes we use in Maui, rather than being rowed, like the shells in my images from Dartmouth. The two forms of propulsion look very similar from shore, but are

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: > You probably meant phelines. I knew there was a word for "cat" that started with "P." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 24 Nov 2015, at 18:29, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 24/11/15, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Let us keep this a place where we can talk about photography. > > Bloody hell Rick - you little revolutionary you! > They all start out like that but before you

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Alan C
What about your leather shoes? And what is a native? Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 7:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO - The Protestor You said "no store sells fur". I found one that does. I didn't say Holt Renfrew in

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/11/15, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed: >Let us keep this a place where we can talk about photography. Bloody hell Rick - you little revolutionary you! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
As in swimming? J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > And cats. > > Pentax, Photography, puns and pcats (the p is silent). > > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Ken Waller wrote: >> And Pentax. >> >>

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Questionable thread, Daniel! I did not say anything political about the president; I only noted that he will soon be available, ass his second term is nearing the end, and he can not run again. Dan Matyola

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Bill wrote: > Just think, you guys could have elected Romney and had a government > unabashedly by the 1% for the 1%. As recent events demonstrate, we get that no matter whom we elect. Dan Matyola

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Ken Waller
And Pentax. Pentax, Photography and puns. -Original Message- >From: Rick Womer >Subject: Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! > >And puns. Photography and puns. >http://photo.net/photos/RickW > > >On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

PESO: Faceoff

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18132718=lg K-5 IIs, DA 18-135 zoom Comments invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah! Even the painful ones. J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > > And Pentax. > > Pentax, Photography and puns. > > > > > -Original Message- >> From: Rick Womer >> Subject: Re: ENOUGH POLITICS

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Where did you get idea I was referencing your comments about Obama?? You need to start listening to yourself before you speak. J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Jack Davis

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I did not think you were addressing anything I said; I was merely responding to the tenor of the thread. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Where did you get idea I was referencing your

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
And cats. Pentax, Photography, puns and pcats (the p is silent). On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:54 AM, Ken Waller wrote: > And Pentax. > > Pentax, Photography and puns. > > > > > -Original Message- >>From: Rick Womer >>Subject: Re: ENOUGH

Re: So how did I do THIS? Every JPEG looks like different processing...

2015-11-24 Thread John
Ok, so SWAG - it's bracketing white balance. On 11/23/2015 2:26 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Well, here is a screenshot of a section of the JPEGs that will give you an idea: http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/randomPost.png On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:12 PM, John wrote: On

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Bulent Celasun
Her expression fits the subject. The composition summarizes the event faithfully. Overall, an effective documentary image. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/

Re: Has anyone tried the Acon r-930 wireless flash trigger?

2015-11-24 Thread John
On 11/23/2015 9:29 PM, Larry Colen wrote: http://acon-photo.com/ I just ran across reference to it on the facebook pentaxian group, one of the members did a video review of it: ://www.facebook.com/201661306571889/videos/1001833063221372/ I downloaded the PDF user manual, even though it was

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread frank theriault
Hi Ann, I am quite certain that's a coyote. They look a lot like German Shephards - at least facially. Here's a Coyote that lives in the lakeside park near my place: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/02/coyote-beautiful.html Coyotes are often grey or brown. According to:

Re: PESO - Christmas Imagined

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
I'm not sure who doesn't know fur. The protesters I talked to seemed very knowledgeable. I don't find either racoons or foxes to be pests. I got to know a mom 'coon and her kits this summer. It was fun watching the little ones grow. My only regret is my low-iso dinosaur couldn't capture them.

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread ann sanfedele
oh a Coyote! - . missing the color and just seeing the head I didn't recognize himor add him to who I thought the canine might be.. I've photographed themin Alaska , kind of made friends with one there.. and also in the snow at Yellowstone back in 1989 too. Don't have any on the computer ...

Re: PESO - Christmas Imagined

2015-11-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Actually - while I personally am fond of racoons they can carry rabbies , as can foxes... so one needs to be careful if they seem too tame. They have been very pesty indeed in New York - in Brooklyn - the neighborhood called Park Slope.. getting into peoples apartments and having fun

Re: The styling division

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/24/2015 9:23 AM, Collin B wrote: Looks like the styling section has picked on something. I like the "barrel" (or "can") styling of the newer long lenses as opposed to the conical shape usually associated with them. It's easy to do a barrel with a slow lens but the 70-200/2.8 reminds me of

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/24/2015 7:30 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: three times as long and largely nonsensical. And that, folks, is what sets the PDML apart from all other so-called Pentax resources. You've never read Rice High,

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > three times as long and largely nonsensical. And that, folks, is what sets the PDML apart from all other so-called Pentax resources. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Over the years I've come to like Bill, but I do wish he would exercise more self control. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > > And just when I was pretty sure that my opinion of the sot could go no lower. > >> On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at

Re: PESO - Christmas Imagined

2015-11-24 Thread ann sanfedele
Terrific shot...geometry enhancing the message - the figure in the window, the fox looking as if he wondered what the police guy was doing... (in addition to the obvious) and more effective than the other one in driving the point home.. ann On 11/24/2015 7:12 PM, frank theriault wrote:

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Darren Addy
And just when I was pretty sure that my opinion of the sot could go no lower. On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > The N word? Really Bill?? > > Paul via phone > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Bill wrote: >> >>> On

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/24/2015 7:51 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Bill wrote: On 11/23/2015 11:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM, knarf wrote: I don't normally like right-wing politicians but I

discounted sample kit from RedRiver

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR
I know that some PDMLers are using Red River papers. There is a special order for the sample kit of 23 different papers for only $4.99 and free shipping (or at least it is free within Texas). http://goo.gl/89xljX However, note that you can not use this 8.5"x11" (Letter) size paper for

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread John
Our four ... no ... amongst our weapons ... amongst our weaponry are such elements as ... On 11/24/2015 3:13 PM, Ken Waller wrote: You probably meant phelines. -Original Message- From: Bruce Walker Subject: Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! And cats. Pentax,

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread John
I think that's wolf fur. On 11/23/2015 11:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Children are dying of malnutrition; they protest about rodents. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:43 PM, frank theriault wrote: As we

Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Allow the populations of raccoons and foxes to go unchecked and you’ll soon see how much of a problem they can be. Their natural enemies are in short supply, so management is necessary. The trappers provide that, and the numbers that can be harvested are strictly regulated. Paul via phone --

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
The N word? Really Bill?? Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 8:14 PM, Bill wrote: > >> On 11/24/2015 7:51 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Bill >>> wrote: >>> On 11/23/2015 11:13 PM, Daniel J.

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Purrin is a springtime Jewish holiday. Irrelevant to the current discussion. On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Would what be purrin? > > J > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >> >> >>> On November 24, 2015

PESO - Endangered Species

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Move over, Alan C! I also recently photographed an endangered species, in the wilds of Vancouver: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18132863 That's right! A brick-and-mortar camera shop advertising Pentax and Ricoh; =and= with the K-S2, K-3, and K-3II on display, along with at least a

Re: PESO - Endangered Species

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
It's Canada. We're always 30 years behind the times. Now where's my Backstreet Boys cassette again? Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 9:58:12 PM EST, Rick Womer wrote: >Move over, Alan C! I also recently photographed an endangered species, >in the wilds of Vancouver: >

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
"Harvested"? They're sentient animals, not broccoli. Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 9:37:25 PM EST, Paul Stenquist wrote: >Allow the populations of raccoons and foxes to go unchecked and you’ll >soon see how much of a problem they can be. Their natural enemies

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
They're dangerous pests, and their numbers have to be controlled. A hungry coyote killed a toddler here in Michigan last year. The harvest accomplishes some measure of population control. Broccoli, by the way is harmless. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:06 PM, knarf

Re: Pentax D FA * 70-200/2.8

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Darren: Yes, I realize it is not sold by Amazon, sorry, I wasn't more clear about it. I actually looked for other sellers, including Amazon itself yesterday, but somehow I missed those two that you mentioned. And yes, it probably makes sense that this lens could be released earlier in

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Would you hesitate to swat a mosquito that lands on your arm? It's a sentient animal and far less destructive than a coyote. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:06 PM, knarf wrote: > > "Harvested"? > > They're sentient animals, not broccoli. > > Cheers, > >

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
OH! J Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote: > > Purrin is a springtime Jewish holiday. Irrelevant to the current discussion. > > > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >> Would what be purrin? >> >> J >> >> Sent from

OT - Happy Birthday Lucy!

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
You got some 'splainin' to do! http://time.com/4126011/lucy-australopithecus-discovery/ I need some good news and this is pretty cool stuff. Lucy is 41 today. Happy birthday, Lucy! Cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -- Henri Cartier-Bresson Sent from my Android device

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No store sells wolf fur. Pure propaganda. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:36 PM, John wrote: > I think that's wolf fur. > > > On 11/23/2015 11:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> Children are dying of

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
http://www.peterpalms.com/wolf/ Probably made up by some PETA looney to discredit the fur industry... Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 10:33:59 PM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: >No store sells wolf fur. Pure propaganda. > >Dan Matyola

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! (for Dan)

2015-11-24 Thread Alan C
Another silly Cat photo. https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/23208691451/ Taken at Sedgefield, Eastern Cape in 2009. Alan C -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 11:08 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
We can control populations other ways than killing them. Besides, you've very neatly shifted the issue from the inhumane trapping and "ranching" of mammals for the fur industry to pest elimination. I can assure you that few, if any, "culled" varmints end up as fur coats or trim. We'll played

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
No hesitation on my part. I don't swat. She gets her meal and she's gone. She has rights, too. And I believe your information may be inaccurate. Mosquitos are responsible for millions of malaria deaths. Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 10:18:26 PM EST, Paul Stenquist

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Alan C
Have you hugged any trees today? Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:49 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Coyotes and fur We can control populations other ways than killing them. Besides, you've very neatly shifted the issue from the

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/24/2015 9:49 PM, knarf wrote: We can control populations other ways than killing them. Show them the word of God and tell them not to partake in extramarital sex? That will work. Maybe tell them to hold an acorn between their knees? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Alan C
Indirectly, through the parasites they carry (e.g. malaria & yellow fever) mosquitos are actually very destructive. Keep swatting! Alan C -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 5:18 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Coyotes and fur

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/24/2015 9:54 PM, Alan C wrote: Have you hugged any trees today? I'm re stacking my lumber pile. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Igor PDML-StR
Bruce, I am very much enjoying your recent series -- "studies". Yesterday, while writing this message, I looked through your new gallery website again, and I enjoyed the fun combination (or even juxtaposition) of live models and mannequins. (Or should I call them womannequins?) Now, here is

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Trapping and hunting in Canada is the principal means of controlling coyote population. Hunters earn a bounty as well. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:49 PM, knarf wrote: > > We can control populations other ways than killing them. > > Besides, you've very

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
PC out of control. No malaria deaths in Canada. Paul via phone > On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:53 PM, knarf wrote: > > No hesitation on my part. I don't swat. She gets her meal and she's gone. She > has rights, too. > > And I believe your information may be inaccurate.

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Ken Waller
It is available from several Alaskan sources. I've considered buying a wolf pelt. -Original Message- >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" >Subject: Re: PESO - The Protestor > >No store sells wolf fur. Pure propaganda. > >Dan Matyola

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
No, I was thinking more of holding Coyote Purity Balls. That might work... Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 10:57:37 PM EST, Bill wrote: >On 11/24/2015 9:49 PM, knarf wrote: >> We can control populations other ways than killing them. >> >> > >Show them the word

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
They were protesting a store, Frank. What does this site have to do with the store they were protesting -- or any of the legitimate stores that PETA demonstrates against? Quite frankly, there will always be wolves and other species that can be hunted and used under certain circumstances,

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread Alan C
From deknackered bunny huggers? Alan C -Original Message- From: knarf Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:54 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Coyotes and fur No, I was thinking more of holding Coyote Purity Balls. That might work... Cheers, frank On November 24,

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
The bounty in Ontario ended in 1973. A few counties have an incentive or compensation but it has been found to be ineffective. A Utah study found: “Although several state and provincial case histories, including Utah, are available (Bennitt1948, Latham 1951, Michigan Department of Conservation

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
PC? Huh? Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 11:09:30 PM EST, Paul Stenquist wrote: >PC out of control. No malaria deaths in Canada. > >Paul via phone > >> On Nov 24, 2015, at 10:53 PM, knarf wrote: >> >> No hesitation on my part. I don't

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! (for Dan)

2015-11-24 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Now that's the kind of cat I can love! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:48 PM, Alan C wrote: > Another silly Cat photo. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/23208691451/ > > Taken at Sedgefield, Eastern Cape in

Re: Coyotes and fur

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
No but I rode my bike to work, as I do every day. That does more for the environment and my general health than hugging a tree. Don't get me wrong, I like trees, but with the bark it just scrapes me and neither of us feel better. Cheers, frank On November 24, 2015 10:54:13 PM EST, Alan C

Re: PESO - The Protestor

2015-11-24 Thread knarf
You said "no store sells fur". I found one that does. I didn't say Holt Renfrew in Toronto sells wolf coats. I was making answer to a very specific statement you made. That being said, most wolf fur sold is ~not~ for coats, it's trim. There's every possibility that there are coats in Holt's

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Questionable thread, Daniel! J - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 5:51:04 AM Subject: Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown > On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Bill

Re: Boris PESO #04 - Window into the past

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Like it. Also looks like a color candidate. J - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:18:05 PM Subject: Boris PESO #04 - Window into the past Hi! Here it is:

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Rick Womer wrote: >> >> The shoot was fruitful. > > I found his clementine quite apeeling. I seed what you did there. >> >> On Nov 23, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: >> >>> >>> Bruce Walker wrote: A shot

ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Photography unites us. Politics divides us. There are =countless= other places to pursue political division. Go there if that's how you want to spend your internet time. Let us keep this a place where we can talk about photography. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Pip, pip! http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > Glad you appreciated that, Paul. My subconscious was in the driver's seat. :) > > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenquist > wrote: >> Lots

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Glad you appreciated that, Paul. My subconscious was in the driver's seat. :) On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Lots of good storytelling here, from the cabaret wardrobe to the angry > expression and the lampshade askew. Well done. > >> On Nov

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
I'm gratified you felt the mystery, Dan. Thank you! On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Those are lovely clementines. > > That is another fine image, Bruce, and a bit mysterious. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
And puns. Photography and puns. http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Photography unites us. > > Politics divides us. > > There are =countless= other places to pursue political division. Go > there if that's how you want to

Re: PDML ~ fate handed me a clementine

2015-11-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:09 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> A shot from a creative shoot that resulted from a model cancellation >> and this model being suddenly available on about 12 hours notice. >> Sometimes fate hands you clementines. > > > Orange you

Re: Boris PESO #04 - Window into the past

2015-11-24 Thread Rick Womer
Brutality would break the china and make a mess. Besides, I like it. Having the in-focus subjects at the edges keeps my eyes moving about the photo. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Jack Davis wrote: > Like it. Also looks like a color

Re: Pentax D FA * 70-200/2.8

2015-11-24 Thread Collin B
> That listing has an interesting "product highlight": >"Direct Current AF"... >Ghm... As opposed to AC-AF? ;-) Pentax has 3 AF systems. The original gear drive, SDM, and DC. It's DC as opposed to the other two. IIRC, they have maintained a single interface to power both DC & SDM -- the old PZ

Just some fun lens design reading

2015-11-24 Thread Collin B
http://ilovehatephoto.com/2014/12/30/a-guide-to-optical-lens-design-and-zeis s-nomenclature/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread ann sanfedele
I was outta here if you didn't leave in PUNS :-) thanks for the "can the political stuff" post ann On 11/24/2015 9:50 AM, Rick Womer wrote: And puns. Photography and puns. http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote: Photography

The styling division

2015-11-24 Thread Collin B
Looks like the styling section has picked on something. I like the "barrel" (or "can") styling of the newer long lenses as opposed to the conical shape usually associated with them. It's easy to do a barrel with a slow lens but the 70-200/2.8 reminds me of the Sony barrels.

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Darren Addy
https://45.media.tumblr.com/3f30e5aff49f8d5fb40896025ea94584/tumblr_n1uazgR1JJ1qln00mo1_500.gif On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote: > Photography unites us. > > Politics divides us. > > There are =countless= other places to pursue political division. Go >

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Bill
On 11/23/2015 11:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM, knarf wrote: I don't normally like right-wing politicians but I make an exception for Barack... If you want him, he will become available soon, Just think, you guys could have

Re: Pentax D FA * 70-200/2.8

2015-11-24 Thread Darren Addy
When you say "Amazon has it listed" you have to be careful because Amazon may (themselves) not be the seller. In this case, the $3880 price is "Ships from and sold by TOKYO CAMERA / WorldWide Shipping." People can (and do) make up all sorts of prices for items which they don't have in hand. Two

Re: Last PUG of 2015 - Countdown

2015-11-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 7:20 AM, Bill wrote: > > On 11/23/2015 11:13 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM, knarf wrote: >>> I don't normally like right-wing politicians but I make an exception for >>> Barack...

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Yolanda Rowe
Thank you! (puns forever) Yonnie On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Darren Addy wrote: > https://45.media.tumblr.com/3f30e5aff49f8d5fb40896025ea94584/tumblr_n1uazgR1JJ1qln00mo1_500.gif > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Rick Womer wrote: >>

Re: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY!

2015-11-24 Thread Jack Davis
Well said, Rick! J - Original Message - From: "Rick Womer" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:48:39 AM Subject: ENOUGH POLITICS ALREADY! Photography unites us. Politics divides us. There are =countless= other places

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