Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:05 AM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: A little more curve-tweaking and you'll clearly see the fringing and posterizing. Maybe you just have to pretend you're shooting slides and not try to save the thing in post. -Aaron

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I like to control the entire process. Me too. Which is why it stinks that I find the process so godawful boring. -Aaron

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Aaron Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you just have to pretend you're shooting slides and not try to save the thing in post. Won't help. I have to use colour negative film, exactly because of the limited dynamic range of slide film. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG -

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Collin R Brendemuehl
At 07:56 AM 3/26/2006, you wrote: Ralf, I'm in general agreement. For those who enjoy and want the best out of film large format is a relatively inexpensive venture. (That is, compared to what I've seen in some 35 outfits.) 4x5 -- a. $150 for a good press camera to start with (Busch

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
I don't find either process terribly boring -- darkroom or digital. But I don't process other people's work, only my own. That is much more rewarding than operating a lab. I tried doing custom BW printing at one time many years ago. I got plenty of business in a hurry, but soon learned that I

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Aaron Reynolds
On Mar 26, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: But I don't process other people's work, only my own. That is much more rewarding than operating a lab. I tried doing custom BW printing at one time many years ago. I got plenty of business in a hurry, but soon learned that I didn't enjoy

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: Collin R Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those who enjoy and want the best out of film large format is a relatively inexpensive venture. Cheap to own, expensive to use... ;-) Jostein

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Jostein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cheap to own, expensive to use... ;-) Not necessarily. You simply can't fire away at 4.3 fps wwith a 4 by 5. :-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries -

RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 23:56 To: pentax list Subject: Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma On 18/1/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: A Bonbo Trecker That's the French candy version I thought it was for small digital

Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed PM 10:42:54 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: SV: Tripod Dilemma A Bonbo Trecker is carbon fibre - very light and versatile - and apr. 500 USD. But, man is that nice! I'll probably never get one of those :-/ Jens Bladt

RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8-) The application of a power drill here and there would create a multitude of holes and reduce weight. The Swiss Cheese tripod for the Swiss Tony photographer. Drilling holes in

Re: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread mike wilson
From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/19 Thu AM 10:38:46 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8-) The application

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Sunny Chung wrote: I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Lon Williamson
I recommend looking at the Slik 300DX instead of the Bogen 3001. We have both in our household. The Slik gets a little taller, is cheaper, feels sturdier and comes with a nice pan/tilt head. What I like about the most, though, is the legs occupy a lot more area; it is far less tippy than the

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread brooksdj
If i stay with the tripod i have now, its not here but i think it is the Manfotto 28, big double aluminum tube legs thing, is there a recommended head for macro. I don't think this tripod closes down much below 24-26 but i would need to get closer obvisously. Is there a head with a slide

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma Any head reccomendations or would one be better of buy a second pod specifically for macro. If it's the tripod you loaned me at GFM, it's an 028 with some sort of little boy head on it. I did appreciate

RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 10:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have to warn you that it seems to be made out of steel. 8

Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread John Forbes
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:07:51 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 10:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma mike wilson wrote: You can have mine for 300 - although I have

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread brooksdj
suited. I have the 486RC2 ball head on my mono pod. That should be sturdy enough then to handle rails.? Dave - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma Any head reccomendations or would one be better of buy

RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
John Forbes wrote: The application of a power drill here and there would create a multitude of holes and reduce weight. The Swiss Cheese tripod for the Swiss Tony photographer. Drilling holes in a tripod is like... ...first you make sure her legs are well spread and securely

Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread mike wilson
John Forbes wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 20:07:51 -, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Malcolm Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 10:39 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma mike wilson wrote: You can have mine

RE: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread Bob W
The application of a power drill here and there would create a multitude of holes and reduce weight. The Swiss Cheese tripod for the Swiss Tony photographer. Drilling holes in a tripod is like... ...first you make sure her legs are well spread and securely fastened. Then you

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I have the 486RC2 ball head on my mono pod. That should be sturdy enough then to handle rails.? That should support a rail quite nicely. William Robb

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Shel Belinkoff wrote: A good one, appropriately chosen, can last a lifetime, and can be used with long, heavy lenses, medium format as well as 35mm. The worst investment I ever made was an inexpensive tripod. Yes, been there. Very poor investment a cheap tripod, and one I won't repeat.

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Sunny Chung
I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be a reasonable price but

Re: RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed AM 09:52:24 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I don't think people were offended as much as concerned that you didn't

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Stenquist
Check out ebay. I bought both of my tripods used for less than half the cost of a new one, and they're both quite excellent. Paul On Jan 18, 2006, at 4:52 AM, Sunny Chung wrote: I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job, that would be a reasonable

Re: RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, mike wilson wrote: _Everyone_ has a tight budget, they are just different. Find the one you want and then look for the best price you can. Unlike some other photographic equipment, tripods can often be found in (functionally) as good as new condition. I second that;

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The newer Promaster tripods are really worth a look. Construction is decent. They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. And for some of them the center post is also a monopod. And, if you're out walking a lot at night, consider investing in a high-$$$ light-weight tripod.

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread E.R.N. Reed
Rob Studdert wrote: What you have to consider is that if you make the right choice in choosing your silly tripod it will likely outlast all your other photo gear. It's worth thinking about and spending money on, the cheap ones generally don't do the intended job very well and will fall apart

Re: Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread mike wilson
From: Krisjanis Linkevics [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/01/18 Wed PM 12:15:35 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I am not an authority, but I think that lightness is a drawback for a tripod: it is just not steady enough. Kostas

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kostas Kavoussanakis Wed, 18 Jan 2006 05:20:29 -0800 On Wed, 18 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I am not an authority, but I think that lightness is a drawback for a tripod: it is just not steady enough. Kostas Generally

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rick Womer
A tripod that stays at home or in the trunk of the car because it's too heavy to carry comfortably is worse than no tripod at all: The money is spent, but there is no benefit. For years I used a very sturdy, 3.5kg Slik tripod, but usually left it behind! A few years ago I got a Velbon Maxi

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Malcolm Smith
Rick Womer wrote: A tripod that stays at home or in the trunk of the car because it's too heavy to carry comfortably is worse than no tripod at all: The money is spent, but there is no benefit. A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Malcolm

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many people :-0 I guess the word came to mind because I was partially baffled at the ridiculous prices I was seeing for these tripods (ex: $200 - $500) I guess if I had a full time job

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Shel Belinkoff
My experience with Promaster gear has been mixed. I'd suggest looking very carefully at any product carrying that name. Shel [Original Message] From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote re: Promaster tripods: They're less expensive and lighter than Bogen/Manfrotto stuff. I

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jack Davis
Look for a photo swap-meet. Not knowing what size lenses/bodies you plan use on it, can only suggest you look for something fits your definition of substantial. My primary tripod is a Bogen 3021 with their Pro ball head. Also, own a light weight 3001 with a mini-ball head for those times when much

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
the Velbon. HTH Don -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:37 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I don't think anyone was offended. Certainly not me. If you can't afford a new tripod, but a good

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to mount the center column

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 18, 2006, at 7:12 AM, Don Sanderson wrote: Bogen 3001, Light but very sturdy, one of the least expensive full height tripods. Bogen 3021 BPRO, Heavier, sturdier, center column can be mounted horizontally (Very handy), a bit more expensive. Those were the two tripods that came to mind

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Williams
I don't know why you should complain about 3.5 kg. The Manfrotto 75 I use weighs 5.3kg and I carry it around the forest all the time. Of course I usually have a backache that last a week afterwards. But what a difference it makes with the 400mm Sigma APO. I haven't used this lens on the *ist

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
and pretty solid. Don -Original Message- From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:27 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Gonz
I was in the same situation not too long ago. I had an older tripod that I purchased when I was in college, a heavy Sears jobbie. The legs worked ok, and it was sturdy, but it was mainly the head that drove me crazy. With a heavyish lens, it would droop a little once you locked it and let

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Adam Maas
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:59:51 - cheap tripods are a false economy. The best way to buy a tripod is to take your equipment into a shop that has a large range, and try them out. It's particularly

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Tom C
In that case a $12 tripod works wonders! :-) Tom C. From: Sunny Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:52:24 -0500 I'm sorry for using the word silly and unintentionally offending many

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. januar 2006 06:31 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Tripod Dilemma I know its hard to believe with all the night shots I have in my gallery, but I still do not own a tripod. Now that I'm looking for one, I'm extremely stumped. Should I buy a generic $12 tripod, or invest

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Sunny Chung
I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way, with the grip to the side or in the front. Is this

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Gonz
Taken with the setup I described, Bogen 3xxx + 322RC2 head, pointed up. http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/3/IMGP6113.jpg It is hard to point higher up than this, but do you need that? If you often do, then a 3 way head might be better. Sunny Chung wrote: I have borrowed a friend's

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Don Sanderson
-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Tripod Dilemma I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 18, 2006, at 10:18 AM, Sunny Chung wrote: I have borrowed a friend's manfretto tripod with a 322RC2 head once, and I did not like how the grip obstructed you from tilting the camera too far back. So if you were shooting up at something, you had to have the camera mounted a certain way,

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
I haven't read all the posts on this thread so I don't know if this has been mentioned. No doubt you've gotten a lot of tripod recommendations (if the list isn't being silly today). I recall someone once writing -- and this has been my experience -- that people tend to own either no tripods

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Bob W
Message- From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 14:37 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma I don't think anyone was offended. Certainly not me. If you can't afford a new tripod, but a good used one. As Bob Walkden suggested, look

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! I thought a heavy tripod was nature's way of telling you to work overtime so you can afford carbon fiber! -- Mark Roberts

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Carlos Royo
Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I should go with this combo or spend a little (my budget is very tight right now) more for the Pro version. I would like to experiment with macro, maybe being able to

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought a heavy tripod was nature's way of telling you to work overtime so you can afford carbon fiber! LOL Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Carlos Royo, discombobulated, unleashed: I have got the 190B, 141 RC 3-D head and 486 RC2 ballhead. Unless you have a reason to prioritize the purchase of the 141 RC, go for a ballhead. It is lighter, more compact and faster to use. Since I got the ballhead, I don't use the 141 RC

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 8:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spending $200 to $500 on a quality, solid, carbon fibre unit for a hiker shooting medium-lenth or wide angle lenses on 135 or medium may be suitable. For 4x5 8x10, when there's any wind at all, the big video unit comes out. The beauty of

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 12:49, Joseph Tainter wrote: I recall someone once writing -- and this has been my experience -- that people tend to own either no tripods or several. One can't do all jobs. I currently have four tripods and two monopods. LOL, yes, I have four tripods, one monopod, five

SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
Emne: Re: Tripod Dilemma On 18/1/06, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Mark! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Jens Bladt
://www.jensbladt.dk -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Carlos Royo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 18. januar 2006 22:50 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Tripod Dilemma Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: What do you think about the 190DB+141RC combo? I'm also looking for a tripod, but I'm not sure if I

Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 23:42, Jens Bladt wrote: A Bonbo Trecker is carbon fibre - very light and versatile - and apr. 500 USD. But, man is that nice! I'll probably never get one of those :-/ I believe that all the Benbo range use tubular aluminium construction, the Trekker is quite light but not

Re: SV: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/06, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: A Bonbo Trecker That's the French candy version Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Kenneth Waller
A heavy tripod is just natures way of telling you to get fitter. Or get a sherpa! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Malcolm Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:34 AM Subject: RE: Tripod Dilemma Rick Womer wrote

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-18 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/18/2006 6:07:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For years I used a very sturdy, 3.5kg Slik tripod, but usually left it behind! A few years ago I got a Velbon Maxi 343E, and I carry it often. Not as sturdy and stable as the Slik, for sure, but with the

Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Sunny Chung
I know its hard to believe with all the night shots I have in my gallery, but I still do not own a tripod. Now that I'm looking for one, I'm extremely stumped. Should I buy a generic $12 tripod, or invest in a name brand like bogen/manfrotto. I don't want to spend over $100 on a silly tripod,

Re: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Rob Studdert
On 18 Jan 2006 at 0:30, Sunny Chung wrote: I know its hard to believe with all the night shots I have in my gallery, but I still do not own a tripod. Now that I'm looking for one, I'm extremely stumped. Should I buy a generic $12 tripod, or invest in a name brand like bogen/manfrotto. I

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Bob W
with the mechanics of the thing. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: Sunny Chung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 January 2006 05:31 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Tripod Dilemma I know its hard to believe with all the night shots I have in my gallery, but I still do not own

RE: Tripod Dilemma

2006-01-17 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Tripods aren't silly. That you choose to call them silly indicates that you don't appreciate how valuable they can be. They are valuable tools for almost every photographer. A good one, appropriately chosen, can last a lifetime, and can be used with long, heavy lenses, medium format as well as

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 Nov 2005 at 18:37, Rob Studdert wrote: On 1 Nov 2005 at 14:42, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she saw and didn't want me to show? Forget that you ever pressed the shutter when she was in front of the camera, leave her

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Eactivist
Shel, it sounds to me like you think they are good -- she thinks they are bad. And that you think if you show them to others they will think they are good. Ergo, she will change her mind and then think they are good too. But I wouldn't count on it. For instance, personally, I rarely like

RE: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Markus Maurer
greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 2:18 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma If she explicitly said not to post her photo, take that as generic regarding all photos of her. Unless

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! At least this is what I would do... I too have some very nice pictures (to my eye at least) that I cannot show anyone *sigh*. Boris you kinky bugger ;-))) ROTFLMAO... Nothing really kinky, Cotty... Not in a sense you might have thought about it anyway ;-). -- Boris

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread John Forbes
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:01:45 -, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom C wrote: From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about a little more relaxed attitude toward sharing the picture. I'll take a shot of my wife, and she'll say, Oh, I hate that one, don't show anyone. I

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread frank theriault
On 11/1/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like. She

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread frank theriault
On 11/1/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you show that one pic at this point, she could probably successfully sue you. snip sue for what? she knew the photo was being taken and didn't object to that, she only objected to shel showing it, afaik. assuming shel will not be showing

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Raimo K
Show me the pics and I´ll give you my answer ;-) All the best! Raimo K personal photography homepage at: http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho/ Quoting Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma On 11/1/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you show that one pic at this point, she could probably successfully sue you. snip sue for what? she knew the photo was being taken and didn't object

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A person can launch a lawsuit for pretty much any reason, if they desire. true. implicit in my question was that the lawsuit not be frivolous or vexatious. If she finds the final picture to be defaming, and has given specific instructions to

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Adam Maas
frank theriault wrote: --SNIP-- with the greatest of respect: wrong! defamation is the publication or utterance of an untruth about someone. truth is a complete defense to the charge. assuming that shel hasn't manipulated the photos, he can't be sued for defamation. --SNIP-- -frank

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread John Forbes
How did George Galloway prove that defamation isn't the publication of an untruth about someone? John On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 14:56:23 -, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: --SNIP-- with the greatest of respect: wrong! defamation is the publication or utterance of

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/11/05, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: At least this is what I would do... I too have some very nice pictures (to my eye at least) that I cannot show anyone *sigh*. Boris you kinky bugger ;-))) ROTFLMAO... Nothing really kinky, Cotty... Not in a sense you might have thought

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread P. J. Alling
In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law. A good judge who knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out, but with some you can't be sure they even know the law it's not required frank theriault wrote: On 11/2/05, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A person

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law. A good judge who knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out, but with some you can't be sure they even know the law it's not required a plaintiff must make out a prima

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-02 Thread Kenneth Waller
In some jurisdictions judges like to make the law. I don't think this is limited by jurisdictions. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A Small Dilemma A good judge who knew and respected the law would throw a baseless lawsuit out

A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like. She specifically asked - in fact told me on no uncertain terms -

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread keith_w
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like. She specifically asked - in fact told me

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Shel, Part of the obligation depends on the relationship. If you wish to maintain the relationship, then you should probably comply with her requests. When I am confronted with a situation like that, I do try to probe as to what the objection is. Sometimes we can take a few shots to

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/11/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like. She

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Gonz
Show us the picture(s) so we can make a determination of your obligations. ;) rg Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her,

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:42:13PM -0800, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like.

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread skye
On 11/1/05, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras to photograph one another. I got a few nice shots of her, and showed her one, which she didn't like. She

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread japilado
If this acquaintance is a friend, I would want to retain the friendship and not publish any of the pictures. How about showing the ones she took of you? Jim A. Not long ago an acquaintance came to visit. We were talking about photography and cameras, and ended up using one of my cameras

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why are you surprised, John? I'm a curious fellow and would like to hear what others think or may do in such a situation. The question was prompted by comments made in another thread, and it's been on my mind for a while to get a sense of how others see this situation. Shel You meet the nicest

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Interspersed [Original Message] From: skye Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she saw and didn't want me to show? Pardon me for saying so, but it kind of sounds like you're asking for an excuse to do the opposite of what your acquaintance wants you

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Depends on what? Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: Cotty Am I obligated not to show anyone the other pics? What about the one she saw and didn't want me to show? Har, this is straight out of a 'Scruples' box. Depends.

Re: A Small Dilemma

2005-11-01 Thread Shel Belinkoff
They hoovered ... not a one was in focus ... which surprised me considering that she's a photographer of some skill. Maybe her heart wasn't in it ... Shel You meet the nicest people with a Pentax [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about showing the ones she took of you?

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