Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - From: "Pal Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Are you living in a police state? The concept of needing permission to > shoot public buildings or private properties is unknown in my part > of the world. Don't know about unknown... I've had my turns with bullies in this par

Re: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread Camdir
<< I can relate to this. A couple of years ago my daughter wanted some shots of displays showing one of her client's products in chemist (= drug stores) in Australia. Not comparisons with competing products, not (necessarily) showing the store's name. I did the proper thing and asked

Re[7]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread Chris Stoddart
> > Now try to do the same with a "pro" look/gear. Count seconds before > > the owner kicks you off (or at least ask for explanations of what the > > heck are you doing). Mind you, as other have said the converse can also be true. A friend and I once went to Donnington Park race circuit to help

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread Chris Stoddart
Mike wrote: > > Once I wanted to take a pic of one of the building of Polaroid offices > > here, from a parking lot... Then Pål wrote: > Are you living in a police state? The concept of needing permission to > shoot public buildings or private properties is unknown in my part of > the world. A

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread David A. Mann
Bruce Dayton wrote: > Other times, you might be able to get into places that the pros are > allowed but amateurs are not. Or you might get kicked out of places where pros are not allowed. Its happened to me once or twice. It can be difficult to convince people you're an amateur when you're c

Re[7]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-13 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Friday, September 13, 2002, 12:59:10 AM, you wrote: > Russia-Schmussia... > that was an office park on I-95 interstate, this summer. > I mean, Boston, MA. > And I didn't really mean, bureaucracy. Make an experiment: go to any store > and snap a couple shots with a P&S. I bet no one would eve

RE: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread John Coyle
I can relate to this. A couple of years ago my daughter wanted some shots of displays showing one of her client's products in chemist (= drug stores) in Australia. Not comparisons with competing products, not (necessarily) showing the store's name. I did the proper thing and asked permissio

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Mishka, Yeah, you're right. This past spring, when Stan Halpin was in Toronto, we had a little TOPDML get together with Stan. We were walking around BCE Place, a couple of office towers connected by a huge atrium. Clearly private property. The security guard came up to us (as we were shoo

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Pentxuser
In a message dated 9/12/02 9:51:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it would be foolhardy for Pentax to try and compete with Nikon and Canon. What they need to do is regain the respect of the advanced amateur. Let's face it, it's amateurs (not pros) who buy the majority of cameras. They'

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
r from P&S your >equipment is , the worse it gets. > >Best, >Mishka. > >- Original Message - >From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:08 PM >Subject: Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myt

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Mishka
access one gets with P&S. The farther from P&S your equipment is , the worse it gets. Best, Mishka. - Original Message - From: "Peter Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: Orgi

Re: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
heck are >you doing). > >Mishka > >- Original Message - >From: "Bob Walkden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Mike Ignatiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:06 PM >Subject: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) &g

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
If there was private security then the parking lot was private property, or the security guards were seriously overstepping their authority. At 10:56 PM 9/12/2002 +0200, you wrote: >Mike wrote: > > > Once I wanted to take a pic of one of the building of Polaroid offices > here, from a parking l

Re: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Mishka
"Mike Ignatiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:06 PM Subject: Re[5]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > Hi, > > > The second I stepped from my car with a tripod and a P6x7, I was approached by a couple security guys, > > perhaps it's a lit

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Cotty
>Are you living in a police state? The concept of needing permission to >shoot public buildings or private properties is unknown in my part of the >world. > >Pal The issue is whether or not you are standing on private property. If you are in a car park, move fifteen feet further away so that y

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
You are right, this analogy has gone too far... > -Original Message- > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 September 2002 19:07 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > You are over-analyzing my Porsche v

Re: Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Pal Jensen
Mike wrote: > Once I wanted to take a pic of one of the building of Polaroid offices here, from a >parking lot, openly accessible from > a dozen places. The second I stepped from my car with a tripod and a P6x7, I was >approached by a couple security guys, > asking who employs me, whether I hav

Re[4]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Mike Ignatiev
I had a few similar experiences. The worst is MF equipment: no matter what you say, you are assumed to be a professional, with strong (negative) attention of business owners, security personel etc. Once I wanted to take a pic of one of the building of Polaroid offices here, from a parking lot

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Glen O'Neal
camera. Isn't that what it's really all about any way?? -Original Message- From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) Well, that was a rude email. I dislike those that

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Shaun wrote: > Perhaps another flagship so soon would appear foolish, however, it may be an > expedient way of recovering some of the development cost that went into the > stalled MZ-D. Sell the converted (i.e. us) a new 'flagship' SLR essentially > based on a digital SLR design that didn't fly,

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Pål Jensen
Brad wrote: > I find this interesting, we have excitement and fear and all sorts of things > because of the speculation on Pentax. Pal, you seem to know a lot. And > your idea scares me :) I don't know this for a fact. It's speculation or belief. >I would think that Pentax would have to c

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
ings stand. I do praise and embrace the MZ-S, but I will be more than happy if they bring out even better products... > -Original Message- > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 12 September 2002 15:49 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths --

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
> -Original Message- > From: Brad Dobo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Oh, I'm well aware that Pentax doesn't know or care what Brad > Dobo really wants :) We all know that feeling! I wonder if they do notice the PDML...? > > No, If you look at your example of Porshe: > > > > A coup

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
Actually, I had envisioned it looking more like a burnoose but hey. At 10:08 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: > > Shouldn't he be using a view camera with that or just drape it over his > > head while looking thought the viewfinder of the MZ-S? > >Oh, w

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Dan Scott
On Thursday, September 12, 2002, at 08:25 AM, Mike Ignatiev wrote: > Rob, > Do I have to state the obvious? Of course we want Pentax (or any other > manufacturer for that matter) to make a flagship > product, that would never become obsolete, or, for really finicky, > would be 100% upgradeabl

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread gfen
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: > Depends on what the plan is. Personally I'd just pack a couple of zooms > and travel > light. (Unless I were going for after dark street photography, then it > would be a > couple of moderately fast small primes). Well, I've got a few hours to kill bef

Re[3]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Mike Ignatiev
Nah.. simpler: dark cloth (or, sky mask) and a BFG900. In NYC *especially* :) -Original Message- From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:39:13 -0400 Subject: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > Shouldn't he be using a

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread gfen
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: > Shouldn't he be using a view camera with that or just drape it over his > head while looking thought the viewfinder of the MZ-S? Oh, well, that'd be a REALLY small darkcloth.. perhaps a darktissue? -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructi

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
Depends on what the plan is. Personally I'd just pack a couple of zooms and travel light. (Unless I were going for after dark street photography, then it would be a couple of moderately fast small primes). At 09:53 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > > Yes

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Brad Dobo wrote: > > Yes I do strive to, but I don't understand this 'Darkcloth'. And while I > strive, I don't take good pictures, I'll admit that, but I wanna look good > doing it. Again, that's my personal preference that should not be attacked. Brad, I admire you for your chutzpah! Again

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Brigham
ber 2002 14:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > > Well, that was a rude email. I dislike those that call me > crazy, and no, I could care less if Pentax didn't come up > with things as fast and much as possible. I can go to oth

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread gfen
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > Yes I do strive to, but I don't understand this 'Darkcloth'. And while I > strive, I don't take good pictures, I'll admit that, but I wanna look good > doing it. Again, that's my personal preference that should not be attacked. I'm not attacking you, I ha

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Peter Alling
Operated entirely by by mental control. At 09:31 AM 9/12/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Mike Ignatiev wrote: > > Have I missed anything? > >Made from cheese! > >-- >http://www.infotainment.org > "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Keith Whaley
Mike Ignatiev wrote: > > Rob, > Do I have to state the obvious? Of course we want Pentax (or any other manufacturer >for that matter) to make a flagship > product, that would never become obsolete, or, for really finicky, would be 100% >upgradeable over internet for free > (including body mod

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Rob Studdert
On 12 Sep 2002 at 9:34, Brad Dobo wrote: > Hey Rob, > > No, nothing personally, it's all right to have an alternate opinion and I > like to debate. :-) > (And actually, I really want a long(er) telephoto, but can't buy it new. I wish > there were more Pentax stuff in the shops around here) Y

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Brad Dobo
From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:52 AM Subject: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote: > > You gotta try the 67II or 645nII. When you dea

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Brad Dobo
hers, so does that mean if I own a Porshe 911 and you have a Corvette, that I'm not a real driver? *sigh* Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:26 AM Subject: RE: Org

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Brad Dobo
riginal Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 1:54 AM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > On 11 Sep 2002 at 23:27, Brad Dobo wrote: > > > As one Pentax customer, I would care. I boug

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread gfen
On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, Mike Ignatiev wrote: > Have I missed anything? Made from cheese! -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive character is cheerful." - Walter Benjamin

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Pentxuser
I'll give him credit for telling it as it is. Vic In a message dated 9/11/02 10:27:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << As one Pentax customer, I would care. I bought the MZ-S because it was the latest and greatest sort of thing, it's only a camera and I didn't _need_ itI also bought t

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread Mike Ignatiev
ginal Message- From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:26:54 +0100 Subject: RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > > This is just plain crazy. We keep hearing how Pentax is behind > (technologically), and now you s

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-12 Thread gfen
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote: > You gotta try the 67II or 645nII. When you deal with that big > viewfinder and big negative, suddenly the bells and whistles on the > 35's suddenly doesn't seem quite so important. Talk about feeling > like you got the top of the line... Also, you want

Re: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
t; Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:10 AM Subject: Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > Brad, > > You gotta try the 67II or 645nII. When you deal with that big > viewfinder and big negative, suddenly the bells and whistles on the > 35's suddenly doesn't seem qui

Re[2]: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
hing BD> happens anyhow) BD> Highest of high regards, :) BD> Brad Dobo BD> - Original Message - BD> From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BD> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BD> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:19 PM BD> Subject: Re: Orgin My

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
- Original Message - From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 12:02 AM Subject: RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > Roll on Photokina and put us all out of our bloody misery Can I get a big 

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:53 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > Brad, > I hate to break it to you, but I'm pretty sure that a few years *after* the > new flagship comes out, there will be a newer, even better one. > > And so on, and on, and on... >

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Shaun Canning
er 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) As one Pentax customer, I would care. I bought the MZ-S because it was the latest and greatest sort of thing, it's only a camera and I didn't _need_ itI also bought the AF360FGZ for it, release cable, rel

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Mishka
t; To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > As one Pentax customer, I would care. I bought the MZ-S because it was the > latest and greatest sort of thing, it's only a camera and I didn't _need_ > itI

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
- From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > As one Pentax customer, I would care. I bought the MZ-S because it was the > latest and greatest sort of thing, it&#x

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
:) And yes Rob, I see what you are saying, I simply don't like it (if anything happens anyhow) Highest of high regards, :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 9:19 PM

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11 Sep 2002 at 20:25, Brad Dobo wrote: > I can't speak on the technical parts, as I really don't > understand them, and haven't been using Pentax for as long as most here have. > But it seems to me that Pentax would piss off their hard-earned customers by > coming out with another camera and

RE: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Shaun Canning
Original Message - From: "Pål Jensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > That's why I beleive that the new KAFIII mount will be dedicated to a new camera series. I don&#x

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-11 Thread Brad Dobo
ot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :) > That's why I beleive that the new KAFIII mount will be dedicated to a new camera series. I don't think any MZ-bodies will take new U

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Steven Brendemuehl is but a mere 15 years of age. Collin At 02:51 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > > Heh, I'm only 21! > > > > > - chris (youngest PDML'er so far? > > > > Cesar is only 16,

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:13:29 -0400, CBWaters wrote: > I'm 30. Am I an old fart already? It depends on you. I've been an old fart since about age 22. :-) Achieved curmudgeon status during adolescence (great curmudgeon genes in my family :-)! TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread Peter Alling
If you're asking that question the answer is probably yes. Sorry... At 07:13 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: >I'm 30. Am I an old fart already? >Cory Waters >- Original Message - >From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >SNIP> > By the way, I seem to be really young here :) Everyone is

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread CBWaters
I'm 30. Am I an old fart already? Cory Waters - Original Message - From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >SNIP> By the way, I seem to be really young here :) Everyone is talking about > Pentax cameras I never heard nor seen. I'm 27, anyone here around that age > or am I hangin' with a

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Orgin Myths > -Original Message- > From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Heh, I'm only 21! &

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Cesar Matamoros II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Heh, I'm only 21! > > > - chris (youngest PDML'er so far? > > Cesar is only 16, I think. > > tv > > Thank you, I think. At least I will take it as a > complement. Hey, does > this explain why you ha

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-Original Message- From: tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Orgin Myths > -Original Message- > From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Heh, I'm only 21! > - chris (

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-11 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, William Johnson wrote: > Graywolf last updated his page 9/3/02, for anyone interested. He's had some >adventures this summer. > > William in Utah. > > http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto/ Yesterday was a bad day, I couldn't do much of anything worthwhile.. I also looked

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10 Sep 2002 at 16:19, Fred wrote: > >> Also, I am curious as to the lighting used for #21 - #24. Were > >> you using a reflector of some sort? > > > There were clouds and the light changed - the images need to be > > fixed. As I said, I put up all those I took and only two are > > 'keepers' a

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread William Johnson
Graywolf last updated his page 9/3/02, for anyone interested. He's had some adventures this summer. William in Utah. http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto/ 11:48:51 AM, "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > >> You guys are really depressing me

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread tom
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Heh, I'm only 21! > - chris (youngest PDML'er so far? Cesar is only 16, I think. tv

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brad Dobo
Will he be posting to the board? :) Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "Treena Harp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:43 PM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths > Not for long. :) My 10-year-old son's

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Peter Alling wrote: > But she manages a Ritz. You should get some satisfaction from remembering that > now that you've broken up. She's a nice girl, I don't wish that much torture on her, or any soul..Besides, she introduced me to the Fuji Frontier, so its not all bad. --

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Fred
>> Also, I am curious as to the lighting used for #21 - #24. Were >> you using a reflector of some sort? > There were clouds and the light changed - the images need to be > fixed. As I said, I put up all those I took and only two are > 'keepers' as far as I'm concerned. OK, Don, so now I'm curio

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Conrad Samuels
"Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > >> You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else over 60? >> >> I still have two cameras older than I am, a Leica and a Speed Graphic! >> >> Dan >> >> -- >> Daniel J. Matyola mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Stanley, Powers & Matyol

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-10 Thread Peter Alling
But she manages a Ritz. You should get some satisfaction from remembering that now that you've broken up. At 01:21 PM 9/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: >On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: > > fun, of course, is when you know someone that uses N* or C* for > > prestige reasons and you

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Peter Alling
Well not any more... At 08:30 AM 9/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > > > By the way, I seem to be really young here :) Everyone is talking > > about Pentax cameras I never heard nor seen. I'm 27, anyone here > > around that age or am I hangin' with a bunch of old

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Alan Chan
>Are you saying that you started using the ME Super when you were a >1-year-old? :) Sounds like a caring father who managed to find an excuse to buy himself a Pentax (of course it's a gift for his loving 1-year-old child). :) regards, Alan Chan ___

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Alan Chan
Although not taken by any 135mm, I have uploaded some pictures taken by the FA77/1.8. All without filter or flash, just available light on Sensia 100. http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/ regards, Alan Chan _ MSN Photos is the easiest

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: > Fenstermacher has a Graphic as well & I have a Busch Pressman > (along-side my MX and ZX-M). But, alas, I'm only 46. Y'know, not under my wildest dreams could I spell Brendemuehl without an aid! In other news, I'm hoping to sell my ZX-50 and a pai

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Otis Wright, Jr.
Yup. Otis Wright "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else over 60? > > I still have two cameras older than I am, a Leica and a Speed Graphic! > > Dan > > > > >I think I'm the youngest pdmler with 23 years old. > > > >But I know all the

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Fenstermacher has a Graphic as well & I have a Busch Pressman (along-side my MX and ZX-M). But, alas, I'm only 46. Collin :) *** From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Dr E D F Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths) > > If anyone is interested I put up some pictures - taken a couple of > > weeks ago for the family. They are all there (link below) > > including the

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Keith Whaley
"Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else over 60? > > I still have two cameras older than I am, a Leica and a Speed Graphic! > > Dan Hah! Just wait until you have NO cameras older than you! I started out just out of diapers (so it

RE: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
-Original Message- From: Dan Scott Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 10:34 PM On Monday, September 9, 2002, at 07:43 PM, Michael Cross wrote: > I'm 37 and, believe it or not, I am just starting out with Pentax. As > far as I > know a Spotmatic is a washing machine. > > I just bought a

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Brendan wrote: > Actually where's Shel? I've been trying to reach him, and I'm actually pretty concerned at this point. I'm going to send out a letter to his post office box this week and see if I get contact. -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive charact

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brendan
Actually where's Shel? --- gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > > > You guys are really depressing me with all this > age talk. Anyone else over 60? > > Where's Graywolf when you need him? ;) > > (Upon checking the page he mailed ou;when he left, >

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else over 60? Where's Graywolf when you need him? ;) (Upon checking the page he mailed ou;when he left, there's been no update since late May) -- http://www.infotainment.org

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brendan
no I get the kiddie chair ;-) --- gfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Brendan wrote: > > Several years ago, I was the youngest in here at > 25 > > and the PDML kid ( Still the Tpdml kid ). Now at > 29, > > I'm just a pdml teenager :-) > > Do they put you at the little table at

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Brendan wrote: > Several years ago, I was the youngest in here at 25 > and the PDML kid ( Still the Tpdml kid ). Now at 29, > I'm just a pdml teenager :-) Do they put you at the little table at the TOPDML meets? :) -- http://www.infotainment.org "The destructive ch

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-10 Thread gfen
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: > fun, of course, is when you know someone that uses N* or C* for > prestige reasons and you refuse to acknowledge their obvious > superiority. HAH! Try dating that someone, and then putting her to work managing a Ritz camera... You quickly le

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread James Adams
5mm for outdoor portraits, back in Singapore in 1975(Super Tak) . James - Original Message - From: "James Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths) > Altho

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You guys are really depressing me with all this age talk. Anyone else over 60? I still have two cameras older than I am, a Leica and a Speed Graphic! Dan > > >I think I'm the youngest pdmler with 23 years old. > > >But I know all the cameras commented here, and in fact I use a ME Super, > > >f

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Cotty
>But another reason is you lot: The PDML. Helpful, friendly and unpretentious. >This is the best Internet mailing list I've been on and I've been on quite a >few. We have an amazing amount and variety of talent in this group without >the >inflated egos so common amongst the Canon and Nikon users

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brendan
Some of us already know :-) --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >By the way, I seem to be really young here :) > Everyone is talking about > >Pentax cameras I never heard nor seen. I'm 27, > anyone here around that age > >or am I hangin' with a bunch of old farts? :) > > I'm a young 'old fa

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread James Adams
Updated: March 30, 2002 > > > - Original Message - > From: "Mishka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 5:44 AM > Subject: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths) > > > > I second 135mm. Same

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Cotty
>By the way, I seem to be really young here :) Everyone is talking about >Pentax cameras I never heard nor seen. I'm 27, anyone here around that age >or am I hangin' with a bunch of old farts? :) I'm a young 'old fart'. 42. But inside I'm still only 14. You'll know what I mean one day... Cott

Re: Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Peter Alling
; >-Alkuperäinen viesti- >Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Päivä: 10. syyskuuta 2002 14:55 >Aihe: Re: Orgin Myths > > > > > >Hi, Brad > >I think I'm the youngest pdmler wi

Vs: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Raimo Korhonen
0. syyskuuta 2002 14:55 Aihe: Re: Orgin Myths > >Hi, Brad >I think I'm the youngest pdmler with 23 years old. >But I know all the cameras commented here, and in fact I use a ME Super, >from 1980, and used a lot of seventies gear, and also own an old Pentax 6x7 >and a 19

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brad Dobo
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Orgin Myths > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Brad Dobo wrote: > > By the way, I seem to be really young here :) Everyone is talking about > > Pentax cameras I never heard nor seen.

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Fred
> BTW I agree, 135mm is a great longer portrait lens, I often find > myself grabbing great shots at parties without being too "in the > subjects face". Agreed. If a portrait is in a (more or less) "formal" setting (i.e., the subject is aware of the photo and is willing to "pose" for it), I'll re

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Brad Dobo
Good, then it seems I'm not alone with a bunch of old men with obsolete cameras (sorry Rob, had to put that dig in there, couldn't resisit :) - Original Message - From: "gfen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Fred
> Don - 70 4/12 years old - one of the few 'old farts' on this list Well, Don, some of us reach "oldfartdom" in far fewer years - . Fred

Re: favorite portrait lens (was Re: Orgin Myths)

2002-09-10 Thread Fred
> If anyone is interested I put up some pictures - taken a couple of > weeks ago for the family. They are all there (link below) > including the imperfect ones. Everyone wanted to see them all. My > wife's family is spread over Northern Europe and only get together > once in a while. Don: Some n

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
You're becoming almost as much fun as Suda Myfoot. From: Peter Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I must ask what is your point.

Re: Orgin Myths

2002-09-10 Thread Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)
The K1000 was/is the student camera (in NA). If you spend any time at any of the other photography sites/mailing lists, you will see and endless number of, "I started with a K1000, and really loved it, then moved on to brand xyz." I suspect that the US and Canadian Pentax distributors tried to

Re: Orgin Myths -- The Finale? :)

2002-09-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
nd remark that it looks great, that they didn't know Pentax had/have/did that sort of thing. So I take some pride in my equipment. Ok, hope that doesn't stir up anything else, and I'm tired of typing! Brad Dobo - Original Message - From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL P

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